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[Warranty] Should I upgrade to 4.3?

Okay, so I just got my (i9500) device and binary status back to official after rooting my phone, dual booting, using various modules etc. in expectations that 4.3 is going to be released officially in the next 3-4 days.
Now, it seems like 4.3 firmwares come with a Knox-like feature called Warranty Bit.
My question is :
Is it worth upgrading to 4.3 at the risk of losing your Warranty forever (because face it, I am going to root it and flash things)?
I couldn't care less abt the new features, I'll be switching over to an AOSP ROM when a stable one comes out.
At 4.2.2, there's an almost complete possibility for me to revert to Official status IF anything goes wrong, but at 4.3 there's no chance at all.
thanks!

Bump.
Anyone?

For being honest with you and make it clear you dont have warrantly avoid if you do the update in 4.3 official (rom stock si).
If juste BEFORE you have erased your foot of course ans also custom recovery etc.
But if you try to root jour s4 AFTER doing the update THERE you woxnt have warrantly anymore !.
For make simple there you dont risks the risks is the following One if you do that and dont want to lose forever you warrantly you will be obliger to not FLASHING LR lther anymlre.
Personnaly i suggest you to pût a custom rom bases on the stock ondes...as Echoes the best i know.
I am on Android 4.3 actually with the MJ5 MoDem it s perfect ! Much berger chan the official ans i have not lose m'y Warta t'y..because the KNOW had ben removed in the rom...
Si in wlrse case i will juste have to Côme back to official statut.

Clipboard crashes 4.3?
I thought of updating to 4.3 myself but I noticed there were some concerns in Clipboard apps in Google Play about a bug in the 4.3 clipboad causing crashes.

From what I've heard I would actually wait till the next version comes out lol, I've heard things like battery temperature raises, camera faults etc... I' dont have a S4 yet but I've been doing a bit of research on them since I'm likely to buy one hopefully its not on the 4.3 version xD . But that's my opinion anyway

Even Iam thinking not moving from 4.2.2 on my s4.
Sent From HTC ONE Android Revolution 30.0

If you have flashed custom firmware on your Samsung and installed the new KNOX bootloader, your warranty will be completely void.

[Q] update to 4.2.2 help

i have buy my s4 with software 4.3 and it's working fine and stable
if i update to 4.2.2 that is better to phone ?
and the phone will be slow, or will get faster ?
when i use phone happens rise the temperature , if i update to 4.2.2 the temperature low ?
and if i not like 4.2.2 can i back to 4.3 ?
sorry for my bad english
i hop if i get answer
Thank you

First of all, dont mix things:
- If you use android 4.3:
1. Its downgrade to android 4.2.2
2. Its update to android 4.4.2
What is your option? :highfive:
* EDIT: I recommend u dont update ur phone if it is going ok. Many people "hate" android 4.4.2 (reboots, drain battery, no wifi, problems with the USB charger).

Its better than the 4.3 like 100 times

Joku1981 said:
First of all, dont mix things:
- If you use android 4.3:
1. Its downgrade to android 4.2.2
2. Its update to android 4.4.2
What is your option? :highfive:
* EDIT: I recommend u dont update ur phone if it is going ok. Many people "hate" android 4.4.2 (reboots, drain battery, no wifi, problems with the USB charger).
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What are you talking
4.4.2 is much better than the old firmwares
Those who complain are the same as in 4.2.2 and 4.3 updates
there will always be unhappy people
You may have problems such as flash any junk
Why I have no problem with the phone

Akadman said:
What are you talking
4.4.2 is much better than the old firmwares
Those who complain are the same as in 4.2.2 and 4.3 updates
there will always be unhappy people
You may have problems such as flash any junk
Why I have no problem with the phone
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Be respectful with your words. Its only one opinion more. He cant do what he want with his phone. I was happy with android 4.2.2, 4.3 and Im with 4.4.2. I never had problems coz I know solve them till now. Why u think they are preparing android 4.4.3?

[Q] Should I update from 4.3 JB to 4.4.2 KK ?

Hello
I recently got my S4 i9505. I'm planning to root it
I have Android version 4.3
I used to flash costum roms on my s2 but I'm not really planning to do much flashing on my S4. not soon anyway
So as I connected the phone to Kies to make sure the drivers were downloaded so I can proceed with rooting
Firmware update popped up
I'm not sure what the best option for me now.
Should I root now and then I'd be able to flash a costume KK rom? and are there any stable ones that are better than the stock?
Can I use kies to update my rooted phone?
Maybe I should stick with JB 4.3? Which one is better 4.3 or 4.4.2?
I remember facing some issues when I update my s2 back. So I searched for the KK Update for the s4 and some people weren't so happy with their KK update
I know that doesn't represent the majority but still it could happen to me
So I confused myself
What is your advice to me?
sorry for the long post
Also I have an extra question What is KNOX? and do I need it?

egy_b0y said:
Hello
I recently got my S4 i9505. I'm planning to root it
I have Android version 4.3
I used to flash costum roms on my s2 but I'm not really planning to do much flashing on my S4. not soon anyway
So as I connected the phone to Kies to make sure the drivers were downloaded so I can proceed with rooting
Firmware update popped up
I'm not sure what the best option for me now.
Should I root now and then I'd be able to flash a costume KK rom? and are there any stable ones that are better than the stock?
Can I use kies to update my rooted phone?
Maybe I should stick with JB 4.3? Which one is better 4.3 or 4.4.2?
I remember facing some issues when I update my s2 back. So I searched for the KK Update for the s4 and some people weren't so happy with their KK update
I know that doesn't represent the majority but still it could happen to me
So I confused myself
What is your advice to me?
sorry for the long post
Also I have an extra question What is KNOX? and do I need it?
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First, the most problems in 4.4.2 are fixed, so if you flash the officical, latest firmware of your country you shouldn't have any problem.
An important thing: if you flash a custom rom, your warranty will be set 0x1, that means, you lost your garanty if you flash a custom rom, that's the so called KNOX. You can use knox like a second system on your phone, with all secure data in it, you can only access with a passwort and all datas are locked without this passwort.
Root your phone after the software update if you want to root it.

Tkkg1994 said:
First, the most problems in 4.4.2 are fixed, so if you flash the officical, latest firmware of your country you shouldn't have any problem.
An important thing: if you flash a custom rom, your warranty will be set 0x1, that means, you lost your garanty if you flash a custom rom, that's the so called KNOX. You can use knox like a second system on your phone, with all secure data in it, you can only access with a passwort and all datas are locked without this passwort.
Root your phone after the software update if you want to root it.
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the fact is that 4.4.2 GNG8 international version cannot be rooted....

christty31 said:
the fact is that 4.4.2 GNG8 international version cannot be rooted....
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That's wrong, just not with towelroot.

thank you for your input

G900I 5.0 root?

Just wondering if there's a 5.0 root method for the G900I yet?
If so, can someone point me to a guide.
Thanks in advance!

bumpity bump

How did you get the lollipop 5.0 update for G900I?

Should update through Kies.
Also bump.

ChrisDude70 said:
Just wondering if there's a 5.0 root method for the G900I yet?
If so, can someone point me to a guide.
Thanks in advance!
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KNOX 0x1:
download supersu 2.45 zip http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1538053
Have TWRP installed
1)enter TWRP / CWM (I have used newest TWRP)
2)wipe cache and dalvik (for sure, never enough to wipe cache and dalvik )
3)install supersu.zip
4)reboot and waaaaaaaait.
Done. Perm ROOT.
KNOX 0x0 search forum. There is way to do it.
Shashank.sonth said:
How did you get the lollipop 5.0 update for G900I?
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You need 2 things:
1. ODIN
2. Sammobile.com

Cheers!
Not too worried about knox.
I rushed it and tripped it before they worked out how to get around. So I'm counter anyway.
I only root for a few minor things anyway. So not worried too much about bricking. Touch wood.

Did anyone get official lollipop ? update for G900I yet?

Shashank.sonth said:
Did anyone get official lollipop update for G900I yet?
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According to : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G900I/ the answer is yes: Taiwan.

Can others flash that without problems?

qubbus said:
According to : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G900I/ the answer is yes: Taiwan.
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I have flashed the Taiwan version (I am based in Australia)
There is a few issues I have noticed with this one, clean proper install, wiped dalvik etc
WiFi continually drops off
Slow Performance
Apps often crash such as S-Health & Camera
No doubt Samsung are aware of these issues & will fix before they roll out others, I suspect they will release 5.01 or 5.02 to other countries rather than the 5.0 they released for the Taiwan version

wiggleme said:
I have flashed the Taiwan version (I am based in Australia)
There is a few issues I have noticed with this one, clean proper install, wiped dalvik etc
WiFi continually drops off
Slow Performance
Apps often crash such as S-Health & Camera
No doubt Samsung are aware of these issues & will fix before they roll out others, I suspect they will release 5.01 or 5.02 to other countries rather than the 5.0 they released for the Taiwan version
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Turn off smart switching 4G/WiFi in advanced settings. It helped me a lot.
About performance - have you wiped internal storage?
I haven't noticed crashes of these apps. Camera is working fine. Maybe something with yours SDcard?
S-Health - wipe app data and cache and try, I don't use this app too much but maybe it help.
I had issues with performance after dirty flash taiwanese rom on australian rom.
I have even downgraded to kitkat for a while! But I wanted to give a chance to LL.
I wiped everything from TWRP even system partition :F and flashed taiwan rom, then from stock taiwan recovery did full wipe and flash again taiwanese LL. Now I have no issues and more than 45k in AnTuTu...

I'm thinking to flash the Taiwanese rom G900IZTU1BOA1_G900IZZT1BOA1_BRI.zip on my G900I Indian version just wanted to know is it safe n has anyone installed it? Plz help I badly want to upgrade to lollipop

Shashank.sonth said:
I'm thinking to flash the Taiwanese rom G900IZTU1BOA1_G900IZZT1BOA1_BRI.zip on my G900I Indian version just wanted to know is it safe n has anyone installed it? Plz help I badly want to upgrade to lollipop
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Be patient. It seems that Australia gets OTA update from yesterday. Maybe India is next?
I have downgraded yesterday my G900i to 4.4.2 again. I have mixed feelings. KK seems to be faster than LP but benchmark is lower. Also battery life seems to be greater on KK. One folk did battery benchmark and it was the same but benchmark is not daily use so, it is very difficult to campare.
If you want safe flash, then flash by odin. Installing original ROM do not trip knox.

Shashank.sonth said:
I'm thinking to flash the Taiwanese rom G900IZTU1BOA1_G900IZZT1BOA1_BRI.zip on my G900I Indian version just wanted to know is it safe n has anyone installed it? Plz help I badly want to upgrade to lollipop
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No OTA but you lose nothing by not flashing lollipop at all.
You can flash Taiwan ROM. Downgrade is possible without tripping Knox flag.
But it is not worth of it.
Try and check by your own.

A few simple questions

I have 7 questions, I will +Thank you for all your answers.
1. I'm still on 4.4.2 [XXUFNB9], is that even the latest KitKat? Since people keep telling me to stay on KitKat, not to update to 5.0.1.
2. Second question, since my CSC is [NEEFNB2] which should be NEE region, that should mean that the latest 5.0.1 via OTA is [XXUHOD7] which was released on 2015-May-01. Isn't that outdated?
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/GT-I9505/NEE/
3. Now if I look at the latest releases, starting from DBT region which is Germany and a lot of others, the latest 5.0.1 for the i9505 is [XXUHOH2] released 2015-September-01. Compared to my NEE region release date, my 5.0.1 update would be outdated right?
4. Last few questions, if I were to update to 5.0.1 via OTA, is going back to KitKat as easy as flashing PDA via Odin including the factory wipe in recovery? Will that trigger Knox?
5. Going back to KitKat from Lollipop I would still be using the Lollipop modem on KitKat, is that bad and why?
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62947457&postcount=11
6. I've read a lot about Knox 0x1 and there are a lot of weird explanations about it.
Someone use to say is that you stop receiving OTA updates. Others say is that Knox can't make a container? Whatever that means.
Is the only negative thing Knox 0x1 that you lose your warranty? I dont have that anyway, so why all the fuss about 0x1 if it's only warranty?
7. What's the experience on the latest 5.0.1 [XXUHOH2] OR latest for NEE region [XXUHOD7] if someone has it?

Erroneous91 said:
I have 7 questions, I will +Thank you for all your answers.
1. I'm still on 4.4.2 [XXUFNB9], is that even the latest KitKat? Since people keep telling me to stay on KitKat, not to update to 5.0.1.
2. Second question, since my CSC is [NEEFNB2] which should be NEE region, that should mean that the latest 5.0.1 via OTA is [XXUHOD7] which was released on 2015-May-01. Isn't that outdated?
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/GT-I9505/NEE/
3. Now if I look at the latest releases, starting from DBT region which is Germany and a lot of others, the latest 5.0.1 for the i9505 is [XXUHOH2] released 2015-September-01. Compared to my NEE region release date, my 5.0.1 update would be outdated right?
4. Last few questions, if I were to update to 5.0.1 via OTA, is going back to KitKat as easy as flashing PDA via Odin including the factory wipe in recovery? Will that trigger Knox?
5. Going back to KitKat from Lollipop I would still be using the Lollipop modem on KitKat, is that bad and why?
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62947457&postcount=11
6. I've read a lot about Knox 0x1 and there are a lot of weird explanations about it.
Someone use to say is that you stop receiving OTA updates. Others say is that Knox can't make a container? Whatever that means.
Is the only negative thing Knox 0x1 that you lose your warranty? I dont have that anyway, so why all the fuss about 0x1 if it's only warranty?
7. What's the experience on the latest 5.0.1 [XXUHOH2] OR latest for NEE region [XXUHOD7] if someone has it?
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The answer to all your questions:
You worry to much. Region is not that important. And who tells you to stay on Kitkat? I wouldn't want to run outdated software on my phone. So just upgrade and you can always downgrade. There are guides in the general section on how to do that. For questions about knox there is a whole thread about it. Also not really important in your case.
Even better would be to flash the CM so you are really on the latest Android version 5.1.1.

Hey,
these people told me not to update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/quick-q-update-phone-to-lollipop-t3163097
Thank you for your answer.
I am still open for suggestions if there are any, of not. I'll consider trying 5.0.1 soon and hopefully I'l like it.
EDIT:
I have updated to 5.0.1 [XXUHOD7] just now.
I can report my experience after some usage.

Erroneous91 said:
Hey,
these people told me not to update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/quick-q-update-phone-to-lollipop-t3163097
Thank you for your answer.
I am still open for suggestions if there are any, of not. I'll consider trying 5.0.1 soon and hopefully I'l like it.
EDIT:
I have updated to 5.0.1 [XXUHOD7] just now.
I can report my experience after some usage.
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Why don't you try the GPE rom or a CM based rom. Way better then stock imo.

Lennyz1988 said:
Why don't you try the GPE rom or a CM based rom. Way better then stock imo.
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Because for some reason this this one is actually running perfectly, I have no complains yet.
The thing is it is running better than my last KitKat rom, faster in opening apps and smoother scrolling without skipping frames as much.
Battery life? It's repporting 3 days left atm, so I suppose it's the same as it was on KitKat, but will see.