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anybody use pocketCM keyboard

anybody try this PocketCM keyboard for htc touch??
like iphone keyboad....very fast....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWE&NR=1

this the screen shot....nice application and its free..
iphone look a like keyboard

http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php

The author asked for the app not to be posted as it's a Beta
But you can keep up with its progress here:
http://www.pocketcm.com

I have to say that this is a killer app for the Touch.
If you have a Touch you really must install this software. It's awesome.

elfman said:
I have to say that this is a killer app for the Touch. If you have a Touch you really must install this software. It's awesome.
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It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?

Best SIP outside of phonepad!
Contact Manager is also a must for a touch user!

any1 tried to disable the dictionary? seems like its very troublesome for me as i cant type shortform.
EDIT - To disable the dictionary its in the setting -> input -> option

Only became very usable for me with "Enable Suggention" NOT selected.

carlosp_uk said:
It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
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The whole point of this keyboard is that you don't have to make sure you touched the right key...you just type the word, and if you typed "rgw", it'll change it to "the" because it looks at blocks of letters, almost like t9...you type and in the end the right word should be there...
it's head and shoulders above the kb that comes with any wm phones...
Go to the website, or check out the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWE&eurl=http://pocketcm.com/screenshot.php?v=3
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samawil said:
The whole point of this keyboard is that you don't have to make sure you touched the right key...you just type the word, and if you typed "rgw", it'll change it to "the" because it looks at blocks of letters, almost like t9...you type and in the end the right word should be there...
it's head and shoulders above the kb that comes with any wm phones...
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Whilst I agree that this is a good idea, it just doesn't work for me, I'm afraid. I think that I, and perhaps others, tend to type at least one or two non-dictionary words per text/message. I also use capital letters and punctuation a lot and, as I mentioned, I have very big hands!
I'm not saying it's no good, in fact as I mentioned I think that it's a brilliant program, I recommend everybody tries it out and reaches their own conclusions too.
It would be good if there were a way to auto-select the input (SIP) method on a per-program basis, e.g. so that PocketCMKeyboard came up automatically for text messages, but then it was the standard keyboard for other text entry. Perhaps this can already be done, I don't know.
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carlosp_uk said:
It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
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Have you tried Tengo Thumb?

I'm not saying it's no good, in fact as I mentioned I think that it's a brilliant program, I recommend everybody tries it out and reaches their own conclusions too.
It would be good if there were a way to auto-select the input (SIP) method on a per-program basis, e.g. so that PocketCMKeyboard came up automatically for text messages, but then it was the standard keyboard for other text entry. Perhaps this can already be done, I don't know.
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I see...you can add words to it too
off subject a little, your sig says that if we like your program we can buy you a beer...what is your program?
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samawil said:
off subject a little, your sig says that if we like your program we can buy you a beer...what is your program?
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totally off subject but it's "Touch Settings", the program to customise all the programs on the cube/mediahub and weather settings etc. I should change my sig though as it keeps popping up OT. !

I really like this keyboard, almost better than HTK. It would be nice if the period (.) were on the alpha keyboard an not the number keyboard.

spartanrob said:
I really like this keyboard, almost better than HTK. It would be nice if the period (.) were on the alpha keyboard an not the number keyboard.
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It kind of is, just tap & hold the symbol key (lower LHS) and you get the . slide a little to the right & get the other most common punctuation marks.

You may want to try this skin...
I added the period and comma on the main text screen. This works very well for my Touch.
Post #488
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712&page=49

yes this is indeed the best keyboard for ppc.

hey I recently bought an HTC touch and came across this excellent software*kudos to the one who programed it* I would like to ask for help in using this. I downloaded it through my touch directly then nstalled it on the phone memory and went to settings and input then selected PCM Keyboard and then ok but nothing happens I'm still stuck with the same old little keyboard help please thanks

2manyphones said:
I added the period and comma on the main text screen. This works very well for my Touch.
Post #488
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712&page=49
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Thanks a lot for this! This is exactly what I wanted in the PCM Keyboard! I was getting sick of opening the full screen PDAMedia Keyboard. I like to see what I type

soft keyboard

I like to carry my Advantage on the leather cover without the keyboard, what help to keep it protected without making too much bulk on my pocket. I have tried many of the soft keyboards available and like very much Resco, Zoomboard and PocketCM. However I think the best layout is the one which have the keys on the 'smile' orientation which apparently none of them offer. I'm using SPB full keyboard because of that but don't like the fact it covers the all screen, it's more oriented for small screen than to the Advantage. Does anyone knows about a VGA skin on this shape? What everybody is using for soft keyboard?

I've tried many software keyboard. I always go back to Tengo 2.1. If you're not using 192dpi, it's good to also have Resco Keyboard in addition to Tengo 2.1.
At the moment I'm back to using my device in 192dpi again, after using it in 96dpi for many months. At this dpi, I like to completely do without the stylus. So I've redone my iLauncher to use the Thumb tab and have big icons throughout. Tengo 2.1 works very well for Thumb typing. There are only six big keys (or rather six areas of keys) to touch most of the time, so its really easy. Tengo's keyboard size is the same under all dpi. It does not invade your screen like some other soft keyboard, despite having one of the largest sized keys (or areas of keys).
One other important consideration is weather or not you need to input in other languages too. If you need to input in East Asian language, then your choices may be different again, just as example.

Thank you Eaglesteve, I will try Tengo. I'm using 192dpi also because on the move I need something that I can easy 'shot' the right key due to the large icons instead of 'aiming' perfectly on the bullseye. Many times walking and working with the Advantage, what a great machine!!

rcf2 said:
Thank you Eaglesteve, I will try Tengo. I'm using 192dpi also because on the move I need something that I can easy 'shot' the right key due to the large icons instead of 'aiming' perfectly on the bullseye. Many times walking and working with the Advantage, what a great machine!!
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Be sure to go through the tutorial first.
If you're using it in 192 dpi, forget about Resco, because Tengo 2.1 has three different layout, one of which is the big sized standard keyboard, which is good for typing in software serial number, etc. The other two layouts are not suitable for such job.
The thing that you will like about this keyboard is that it is not necessary to type the specific key precisely although that would also work. The idea is to allow you to be very very imprecise and yet give you the correct words to choose from. Your finger need not travel all over the place when you type. Just touch the TYGHBN area.
If you need special and unique words, then go for the key precisely. What you type will appear on top right corner. Just choose that word instead of the proposed ones. Once you have used that unique word once, it automatically gets added to the dictionary so that you can use that word by typing imprecisely at the six area later on.
Enjoy.

How do you change resoloution?
Forgive me for my stupid question, but how do you change the screen resolution on your athena?
Would like to do that myself!

branko.savic said:
Forgive me for my stupid question, but how do you change the screen resolution on your athena?
Would like to do that myself!
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Not sure if I understand what you're asking. If your question is what I think it is, then the answer is to use realVGA. Am I missing something?

I think that's what he's asking.
RealVGA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830

techntrek said:
I think that's what he's asking.
RealVGA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830
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Thanks!
Thats exactly what I meant!

Best Keyboard for the HD?

Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?

JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.

SiliconS said:
JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
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No I didn't know this - can you run me through how to do it?

JetMouse said:
Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
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I use SPB Keyboard (the new one, version 4.0) with fullscreen mode. The non-fullscreen mode is pretty much iphone-like. Don't know if it's "better" - to my taste the stock one is just perfect in all respects except for lack of support for Russian, which I need. Unlike most other keyboards, it has arrows which compensate the absense of the dpad on the device.

Sure thing:
Connect your PocketPC to your computer so you can browse the contents of the device.
Browse to \Program Files\PCMKeyboard
Copy English.layout (or whichever one you're using) to your computer's desktop
Make a backup of the file, just in case
Open the live file with Notepad
You can see four lines labelled keyboard_layout_#=
Edit the characters in those lines to change the symbols on the keys in PocketCM Keyboard
Each of the four lines contains a complete template for the keyboard. Rows are separated by the \n (newline) combination
There are some shortcuts to create special-purpose keys:
\2 seems to be uppercase
\1 seems to be lowercase
\b is backspace
\M is the symbol/text toggle button
\N is the enter key
There is a way of including smilies or combinations of characters on single keys, but I can't remember how. I also can't remember how to edit the row of quick symbols you see if you hold down the '123#?' button
Once you've made your changes, save the file on your computer and copy it back over to the PocketPC.
You'll need to choose a different softinput thing and then go back to PCM Keyboard to see the changes.
Don't forget to save the file somewhere in case you upgrade to a newer version of PCM Keyboard.

My favourite keyboard is Tengo. Allows very fast and forgiving typing. You might like to try it. I hope it works on Touch HD cos I have not got one to try on yet.
They have a free version, a commercial regular version, and a commercial thumb version.

the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements

prospects said:
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
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is it compatible with the TOUCH HD

Touchpal
I think Touchpal is the best.

iznee said:
is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
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I just tested it, yes it is 100% compatible.
I love this keyboard, but I am trying to get it to run using the Dutch language. It is so blazing fast and accurate in English using the suretype layout, it's not even funny. I SWEAR I cannot type faster using a hardware keyboard, simply because of the fact that it is just as accurate, has big enough keys to type blind, and you don't actually have to depress a button so... works for me
Still stuck with the trial version though...
Only thing that I still gotta get used to is switching keyboards using a finger slide, I just keep pressing buttons instead of triggering the slide really cool function though as it saves button space and basically is just cool to show people
Thanks for the tip people!
EDIT:
Got my own language it in it now, easy... Also really easy to switch languages... Just pull down the ABC key and pick one. This does reveal some non-skinned ugly winmo buttons though, even while the rest of the keyboard is Diamond skinned.

wfhowell said:
I think Touchpal is the best.
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Completely Agree, it is very usefull, Fast and easy to use Keyboard

TouchPal
I would at least try the demo of this. I personally prefer TouchPal to a Blackberry hardware keyboard. I am serious. The seplling correction and word prediction is simply amazing. Completely altered my view of software keyboards.
BTW- I am 6' 2" and weigh 220 with BIG hands, and Have been happy with TouchPal since the first Touch.

Alternate Software Keyboards?

Has anyone here tried alternate software keyboards with the HD2 (other than the ones that come with it)?
For instance, SPB keyboard (giant keys), Fitaly keyboard (different key layout, different kind of prediction), etc.?
Curious to hear your reviews--whether there is any point in getting any of those?
Also, is there any way to get the standard WinMo one back? (I don't mean for all the time, but occasionally it comes in handy. For instance, it has a Ctrl key, which one can use to cut and paste. Touch Ctrl then C, it copies selected text to the clipboard. Ctrl then V pastes them. Etc. I've only seen that Ctrl key on the standard winmo keybd.)

if you have not tried swype yet i would suggest giving it a go.
it works very well on the HD2 and makes inputing text alot easier

try Resco, ive just bought it cos i find it is more accurate and looks alot like the htc original
it has some great features and is only £6.50, theres a 10 day trial on it for testing.
ive found it to be faster to type with less errors, with the same size keys. it also has copy and paste as well as a calculator built in

me said:
Has anyone here tried alternate software keyboards with the HD2 (other than the ones that come with it)?
For instance, SPB keyboard (giant keys), Fitaly keyboard (different key layout, different kind of prediction), etc.?
Curious to hear your reviews--whether there is any point in getting any of those?
Also, is there any way to get the standard WinMo one back? (I don't mean for all the time, but occasionally it comes in handy. For instance, it has a Ctrl key, which one can use to cut and paste. Touch Ctrl then C, it copies selected text to the clipboard. Ctrl then V pastes them. Etc. I've only seen that Ctrl key on the standard winmo keybd.)
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Does anyone know of a iPhone looking keyboard?
I hate, Hate, HATE the arrow keys on the HTC keyboard and the alternatives are not what I am used to.
The layout of the iPhone keyboard is absolutely perfect for me and unlike Android, I cant seem to find a keyboard replacement that has the same layout
Please if anyone knows of one let me know

Considering most of us hate the iphone keyboard, I'm guessing that is why no one has made one. I like the arrows on the htc keyboard, about the only reason I use it.
Have you tried swype?
How about fingerkeyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501434

nrfitchett4 said:
Considering most of us hate the iphone keyboard, I'm guessing that is why no one has made one.
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I absolute LOVE the iPhone keyboard! I hate how my right hand has to type awkwardly due to the arrow keys taking up space on the right side of the landscape keyboard. I would much rather just have larger letter keys.
nrfitchett4 said:
Have you tried swype?
How about fingerkeyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501434
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Hmmm I tried the SPB keyboard and the Rescoe keyboard so far but didn't like either one. I want something that has the EXACT same layout of the iPhone if possible.
Edit:
- tried out Fingerkeyboard 2.1 and it doesn't work since it still has the same arrow keys which I HATE and dont want on my keyboard taking up space
- tried out swype but it lags when doing regular typing and doesnt show a letter pop up above the letter you type like the iPhone does.
Anyone else know of a iPhone type keyboard?

[Q] Huge step back in text prediction after 2.1 upgrade

Am I the only who took a huge step back in terms of the quality of word completion prediction when I upgraded from 1.6 to 2.1? I had used the default keyboard on 1.6 and I'm talking about the default keyboard on 2.1 now. On 1.6, text prediction was brilliant. On 2.1, it's like a joke.
Here are some of the things that used to happen on 1.6:
1) When I hit, say, the letter "T" as the beginning of a new word, the list of suggestions I got looked something like this:
to
today
tomorrow
through
time
So, with the most common words, I could simply type a single letter and pick the word from the suggestion list, in most cases.
2) Recently used words were aggresively brought to the beginning of the suggestion list. For example, if I'm entering a couple of repetitions of a phrase like "parametric equalization" into a list, after typing the first instance in its entirety, on the second instance, when I hit the "P" key, the word "parametric" would be the first item on the suggestion list. After picking that suggestion, as soon as I typed an "E" for the beginning of the second word, "equalization" would be the first item in the suggestion list.
3)There were two rows of suggested words available. (At least, it was an option I could pick.)
After upgrading to 2.1, none of that is true! Here's what now happens with the default keyboard on 2.1:
1) When I hit the letter "T", here is the entire list of suggestions I see:
t
r
f
g
y
Is this a joke? Where are my full word suggestions? Where are the suggestions of the "T-words" that I've just typed in the preceding sentence? These are not "word completion suggestions"! There's no "completion" to speak of here. These are T9 input options. Is someone asleep at the wheel?
2) I no longer see a way of enabling two rows of suggestions to be displayed. Did I do something wrong in order to cause it to be taken away? Was I bad boy?
3) When I set "Spelling correction" to "off", I lose completion suggestions altogether. What? Since when do "spelling correction" and "word completion" mean the same thing?
So, am I missing something? I didn't see many complaints voiced on this forum about these issues. Am I the only one bothered by these?
I know that a common suggestion such complaints is to switch to using another keyboard such as the HTC_IME. I've tried it. That one behaves almost identically to the default 2.1 keyboard, in terms of the issues I explained above. The sole improvement it provides is that it's slightly more inclined to include longer words in the suggestion list than the default, but only after you type the third letter or so. Not the same thing as what I had in 1.6. Not good enough.
And, by the way, in my case, there doesn't seem to be a way of eliminating spelling correction on the HTC_IME keyboard. I turned off all spelling correction options that I could find. When I type "for", I want only words that start with for- to be shown on my suggestion list. Instead, here are the suggestions that I get for "for" with all spelling correction options turned off:
for
got
god
cor
fir
foe
In what universe are those "not" spelling corrections?
Oh and, by the way, thanks for the brilliant idea of wasting the space for one suggestion (the most likely one, actually) by presenting what I have typed myself in the first place. It's not like I could have just hit Space and continued if that were in fact what I meant to type. Which Nobel laureate came up with that one?
Does anyone know of a third-party keyboard that behaves in the way I explained in the "used to" list above? I looked through a few of them, but the details of the behavior to this extent is usually something not covered in the feature lists shown for these or covered in reviews.

I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
Then again, sometimes I need to type in Japanese, so using the Japanese IME works for me.

You may want to try swiftkey

I'm finding exactly the same thing. Surely there must be a way of changing this?
I've tried all the options and, like you said, if you turn off spelling correction, everything turns off. Bit pants really.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

I spent a good chunk of my weekend "upgrading" to 2.1 and found this as well. Guney, it's like you're inside my head, although far more polite than I was when I saw the new keyboard!
Will try the above suggestions and see how I go.

It's good to hear that I'm not alone with these complaints.
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I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
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Hmmm. If you're talking about the built-in Japanese one, I'd be willing to give that a try if it allows typing in English as well.
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I've tried all the options and, like you said, if you turn off spelling correction, everything turns off.
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I'm pretty sure it's a plain and simple bug. I can't understand how it slipped through. It's pretty embarrassing, really. In any case, that's not even the biggest one of my complaints. (That would be the lack of adaptive full-word suggestions.)
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If you're implying that Swiftkey provides most of the behavior that I've lost, then I'll try that out too. Thank you.

iead1 said:
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
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I've just tried the built-in Japanese keyboard. I can't thank you enough for your suggestion! Like you said, its behavior is exactly the same as the 1.6 default English keyboard. It's actually an improvement over even that one, in one or two respects.
The only drawback I'll have to live with is the need to press the "Symbol" key (the keyboard mode switcher) twice to return from symbols back to alphabetical keys. (There's a third keyboard layout that I need to cycle through, which is obviously specific to Japanese text entry.) Also, the layout of the "numbers and symbols" keyboard is different, but nothing seems to be missing and it's actually arguably better than the original (the number keys are larger). I'm more than willing to live with this when all of my complaints about the 2.1 keyboard is eliminated!
And here are a few additional benefits I got from the Japanese keyboard:
The left and right arrow keys are back, for moving the cursor.
Four lines of suggestions are displayed when I hit even the first letter of a word. (Woo-hoo!) Not only that, but I can also scroll through more suggestions in that four-line space if I swipe up. (This might have been there in 1.6 but, if so, I hadn't gotten into the habit of using it.) This kind of vertical scrolling through suggestions is much more efficient than the horizontal scrolling in the new default keyboard (as well as in Swiftkey) in my opinion. Instead swiping an entire screen width's worth to see only three more words or so, you can swipe up only two line heights' worth and see two new lines of suggestions (about six to eight words, usually).
There's even a key with a smiley as its label which brings up a list of most frequenly used symbol characters in the same form as the suggested word list, saving me two taps when I need to type only a single symbol. Sweet!
I can comfortably recommend this to anyone else who has the same complaints as me about the default 2.1 English keyboard. I consider my problem solved.

I'm all for Swype. I've used it and never wanted to switch back.

guney said:
I've just tried the built-in Japanese keyboard. I can't thank you enough for your suggestion!
I can comfortably recommend this to anyone else who has the same complaints as me about the default 2.1 English keyboard. I consider my problem solved.
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Awesome! Glad to have helped! The only complaint I have about the Japanese keyboard is that four lines of suggestions means it gets in the way of seeing the text box I'm typing in occasionally. It's a good keyboard, I've always found it more accurate than the standard English keyboard as well.

Anyone managed to track down the 1.6 apk of the original keyboard and tried installing that!?

I can't stand the 2.1 keyboard. I've tried loading the Japanese keyboard but I can't find it. How do you get it to load instead of the English keyboard?

gump1376 said:
I can't stand the 2.1 keyboard. I've tried loading the Japanese keyboard but I can't find it. How do you get it to load instead of the English keyboard?
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Go to any text field that you can edit, tap and hold, pick "Japanese keyboard" from the pop-up list. (This doesn't work in some specialized fields like the browser's address field, but the search field of the Market app is one place where it does work.)

iead1 said:
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
Then again, sometimes I need to type in Japanese, so using the Japanese IME works for me.
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thanks for the tip iead1

if you havent tried the HTC_ime mod i suggest you give it a chance. i have been using that since before my X10 and i love it. i have far less prediction problems. also if its any advantage: i find it way faster to type with the compact qwerty keyboard when i type in portrait.

jerkysans said:
I'm all for Swype. I've used it and never wanted to switch back.
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Me too. Toggle between HTC keyboard & Swype.