Android L discussion thread - Xperia Z1 General

Title says it all
Please stay on topic
Try to keep android L talk in this thread to avoid confusion

Using it on my N7 '13, it's pretty good.
37% more battery life seen on the N5 while browsing over WiFi. That's always a plus.
New toggles are great. Non customisable sadly.
The Cards task manager is great.
Material Design UI is great. Big, big change. Although the UI isn't consistent everywhere, many apps are yet to be updated for it.
The Camera API 2 also brings these to the table:
Many of the finer control*configurations*can also be modified, including:
Exposure time
ISO Sensitivity
Frame duration
Lens focus distance
Flash trigger
Color correction matrix
JPEG metadata
Tonemap curve
Crop region
AE / AF / AWB mode
AE / AWB lock
AF trigger
Precapture AE trigger
Metering regions
Exposure compensation
Target FPS range
Capture intent
Video stabilization
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Looks quite nice. Hopefully Sony will get a move on.

Is this discussion about Android L only, if so why is it in the 'Sony Xperia Z1' section of the forums?
As you see in this thread you have a chap posting images of the Android L on a Nexus 7 when this is a Sony Xperia Z1 section forums.
Sony's implementation will look nothing like the vanilla Android L.
I am sure there is a sub forum just for Android L chatter irrespective of what device you have outside of the 'Sony Xperia Z1' forum.

sm.vassallo said:
Is this discussion about Android L only, if so why is it in the 'Sony Xperia Z1' section of the forums?
As you see in this thread you have a chap posting images of the Android L on a Nexus 7 when this is a Sony Xperia Z1 section forums.
Sony's implementation will look nothing like the vanilla Android L.
I am sure there is a sub forum just for Android L chatter irrespective of what device you have outside of the 'Sony Xperia Z1' forum.
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why not. Sonys current launcher (xperia home) is very similar to standard android.
considering the was 4 billion discussions for Kitkat in the xperia z1 area not long ago, i dont see why we cant have 1 discussion for Android L

Tonian1878 said:
why not. Sonys current launcher (xperia home) is very similar to standard android.
considering the was 4 billion discussions for Kitkat in the xperia z1 area not long ago, i dont see why we cant have 1 discussion for Android L
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An Android L discussion is fine if it relates to the forum the thread was started.
The guy who started the post has an LG G2 for god sake.

sm.vassallo said:
An Android L discussion is fine if it relates to the forum the thread was started.
The guy who started the post has an LG G2 for god sake.
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LG g2 and g3, Xperia z1, HTC one m8, and galaxy s5
So I think I fine here

<facepalm> Android L is not even released, but: Shame on you Sony not releasing it yet... </facepalm>
(A typical Thread in Z1's XDA Forum)

Zachinater said:
LG g2 and g3, Xperia z1, HTC one m8, and galaxy s5
So I think I fine here
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Just another irrelevant thread then?
Here me thinking someone will start a good discussion thread with reference to the Sony Xperia Z1 and future Android L release by Sony in the Sony Xperia Z1 forum on XDA.
Who gives a toss for screenshots from a Nexus device?
Stupid me, should of relaised it is another useless thread.

sm.vassallo said:
Just another irrelevant thread then?
Here me thinking someone will start a good discussion thread with reference to the Sony Xperia Z1 and future Android L release by Sony in the Sony Xperia Z1 forum on XDA.
Who gives a toss for screenshots from a Nexus device?
Stupid me, should of relaised it is another useless thread.
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Um, I didn't post that, and its still on topic with android L. So its fine. Did you read the OP?

This says it all
http://prntscr.com/40qc5d
reported

You want to discuss about Android L even though Sony haven't released any news about it for our device? Useless thread is useless.
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I think this thread like the old android ones is good
what to expect,stay tuned ever if you are a newbie
for me this thread is a good view
you know... if sony anounce that will update,then the thread will be more useful to let you know the release date and more..

All of you trolling this thread, there are far more people who have benefited from this thread than those who have been ranting towards it so just stop

imho i think android L looks very bland/Boring i know there is not much happing just yet with it, but i am happy with what i have got, and i am not knocking this thread, i have seen lockscreens tried one of them and did'ent like it much, but good luck with your thread early days yet, kind regards joe.

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ICS on the Xperia Play (official: we won't get it :( )

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Sony has confirmed that we won't get Ice Cream Sandwich on our Xperia Plays:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...ream-sandwich-rollout-for-xperia-smartphones/
Sorry for making you think we would get it... ​
This is great, thanks.
well it's missing from this sony page:
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
Sony never talk to each other (sections) and would not trust what is written in the Sony support/product site so would wait for an official press release first before jumping the gun. Maybe the dude above me has spotted something more revealing .
BTW love the video I wonder who that was made by hmmmm
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I know that the r800x (Verizon) will likely not get the update but do you think people with the r800at (AT&T) will get it?
poo-tang said:
Sony never talk to each other (sections) and would not trust what is written in the Sony support/product site so would wait for an official press release first before jumping the gun. Maybe the dude above me has spotted something more revealing .
BTW love the video I wonder who that was made by hmmmm
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It was made by you
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The Xperia ray and the Neo V has the same specs as the PLAY so theres no reason why the PLAY should not be getting ICS.
It will definitely get ICS and it's just a matter of time !
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So I think it will be available very soon .
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So I think it will be available very soon .
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There it is for all those doubters !
Other same spec device's got the update because it works ok. From the look of how the games run on the beta i would say ICS would brake the gaming side of a gaming device which would be silly for Sony to release it.
I still reckon people should just flash to AOKP rom. Looks better than the standard Sony Ericsson UI anyway.
Something about the standard UI just looks to me, I dunno, plain.
I couldnt care less about games working on it. I just use mine for emulators anyway
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well it's missing from this sony page:
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
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OMG... I doesn't say Xperia Play... That's not good.
Additional info:
5. I have heard that ICS won't run as good as Gingerbread for XPlay. Is that true?
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I can't help but think that maybe the XPlay-to-ICS thing would be like the x10-to-Gingerbread event. I never had the chance to play around with an Xperia x10 before, but last night I had to help my friend with his new x10. It was super snappy with its stock Froyo ROM, then lags were very evident and noticeable when I flashed the latest GB for the x10. I fear this will happen to Xperia PLAY.
I'm well informed about Sony warning 2011 Xperia phone owners around a month or two ago that the ICS coming to the portfolio might not be that fast and reiterated that their GB is very stable. Everyone wants a good upgrade, but again WHAT IF the fate of the x10 happens to our Xplays, too? God I don't want a laggy phone!
right now which is best custom ICS rom in the dev section ?
best in the field of stability and working touchpad.
thanks.
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I can't help but think that maybe the XPlay-to-ICS thing would be like the x10-to-Gingerbread event. I never had the chance to play around with an Xperia x10 before, but last night I had to help my friend with his new x10. It was super snappy with its stock Froyo ROM, then lags were very evident and noticeable when I flashed the latest GB for the x10. I fear this will happen to Xperia PLAY.
I'm well informed about Sony warning 2011 Xperia phone owners around a month or two ago that the ICS coming to the portfolio might not be that fast and reiterated that their GB is very stable. Everyone wants a good upgrade, but again WHAT IF the fate of the x10 happens to our Xplays, too? God I don't want a laggy phone!
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X10 never got an official froyo. It went from 1.6 to 2.1 to 2.3.
Not only that, but 2.3 on X10 was identical in performance to 2.1 (general consensus). Something must have been wrong with your buddies phone. When CM7 came to X10, it was (and still is) the fastest, smoothest and best ROM on the x10.
For the "The official info thread" you should probably spell it right
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...ream-sandwich-rollout-for-xperia-smartphones/
Well, I created this thread trully believeing we would get the ICS update.
Sorry to all I made to think it would happen.
And, thanks Sony, for making a gaming phone with such old hardware.
Xperia play Definitely my last sony and android phone. Bought this last december just for the ICS.
Will gift this to my bro and ill get iphone 4 or 4s. Good by sony and android.
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Thread has been closed due to all discussion moving to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26575291#post26575291
Pax
FSM Sony Ericsson Experia Play

AOSP For Xperia™ Z

AOSP For Xperia Z
Originally posted by Sony Developer:
Remember our Android Open Source Project for Xperia S? Because of the great interest we saw in that project, we’ve now decided to create an AOSP project for Xperia Z as well. This means that the software will be open for you as a developer to use and contribute to. This is a way for us to continue our commitment to support the open Android community. It is also a tool for us to facilitate and verify contributions to AOSP on the MSM8064 Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ S4 Pro platform. Get the details after the jump!
About the project
Just as for the AOSP for Xperia™ S project, the AOSP for Xperia™ Z project will be maintained by Johan Redestig and Björn Andersson, senior software engineers at Sony. Now, if you go to Sony’s GitHub and check out the AOSP for Xperia Z project, you will find the code.
For the AOSP on Xperia™ Z project to run, we are also providing some binaries here on Developer World. Binaries are for example hardware drivers that are specific for a certain chipset. Since some of the binaries are proprietary files provided by Qualcomm, you can download Xperia Z binaries after accepting an end-user license agreement that states how the files can be used and what limitations that exist. Remember that the software is not intended for everyday use, and it does not include some apps and services that are part of standard phone software. Build instructions can be found in the readme file in the AOSP for Xperia Z project on GitHub.
Current status
Even though the software is not suited for everyday use, there are actually a lot of things working already. It boots up, and we have the SD-card, Wi-Fi®, Bluetooth™, GPS, LED light, and sensors working (at least partially). And as you can see in the video above, we are also having the modem and camera running internally. However, both of these functions require proprietary binaries that we cannot publish at this time.
How to contribute
If you are interested in making contributions, head over to the AOSP for Xperia Z project on GitHub. Make yourself familiar with the code and feel free to have a look at the issue list to see where you might be able to help out. All contributions are handled through the GitHub tool.
Coming updates
Going forward, the next step in this project is to replace some of the binaries provided here on Developer World with source code, and to release binaries for NFC to work. For the latest technical status, check out the AOSP for Xperia Z project on GitHub. And feel free to drop us a line in the comments below if you have any questions. We hope many of you developers will engage in and contribute to this project!
Video
Source:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...or-xperia-z-on-sonys-github-open-source-video
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Source:
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This is AMAZING!
That's how a company pleases customers, well done Sony!
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any possibilities now to optimize the Camera ?
No way to optimize camera because no sourcecode nor binaries were published
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When the first stable ROM is created, I'm off to the store to buy a Z
Let's hope that some magic comes from this!
As if I wasn't already coveting the Xperia Z enough. Now time to trade or sell my N4 for an Xperia Z
Damn this is crazy. I never saw this kind of step from the companys.
Damn you Samsung.
Well it works, just thought I'd give it a try
Not much works on it, but at least it can be worked on....
Michealtbh said:
As if I wasn't already coveting the Xperia Z enough. Now time to trade or sell my N4 for an Xperia Z
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I'll trade :fingers-crossed:
Mountainjew said:
I'll trade :fingers-crossed:
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Really? Check your PMs
Hum, Camera and Baseband not working because of closed source drivers, right ?
Haldi4803 said:
Hum, Camera and Baseband not working because of closed source drivers, right ?
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All the Nexus devices have the same issues. 'blobs' are used instead.
As this thread contains no original development and is just a discussion, it has been moved to the general section

XDA Top Smartphone Picks:Z1 comes 4th

Link here. XDA's Top Smartphone and Tablet picks of 2013
I'd say the Z1 did VERY well considering that we are a smaller community than many of the phones listed on there. We (barely) beat the LG G2 and were way ahead of the Galaxy S4! I'm a bit surprised that the Xperia tablet Z isn't there on the tablet side though, I'd list it as one of the best tablets that you can buy right now. Anyhow, good job Sony Z1!
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Wow HTC one sure scored high
I admit they have the prettiest design after Z Z1 and definitely great screen
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Z1 #3 now, Just vote for it
You can vote here.
http://www.xda-developers.com/holiday-guide-2013/holiday-guide-2013-smartphones/
Just scroll to the bottom of the article...
kantk20111 said:
Link here. XDA's Top Smartphone and Tablet picks of 2013
I'd say the Z1 did VERY well considering that we are a smaller community than many of the phones listed on there. We (barely) beat the LG G2 and were way ahead of the Galaxy S4! I'm a bit surprised that the Xperia tablet Z isn't there on the tablet side though, I'd list it as one of the best tablets that you can buy right now. Anyhow, good job Sony Z1!
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The Tablet Z isn't there because they forgot about it when making the poll, even so it actually got roughly 8% of the votes by write-in which certainly says something about its popularity I think.
Well, Nexus 5 would obviously be on number one. It's nice to see our phone is on the top 3
I am really happy to see this results.also I actually prefer my z1 instead of HTC one because of more power full hardware and nexus 5 because of sd card slot,camera,brand!! ))
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kantk20111 said:
I'd say the Z1 did VERY well considering that we are a smaller community than many of the phones listed on there. We (barely) beat the LG G2 and were way ahead of the Galaxy S4!
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Am surprised the Note 3 beat the Z1 instead of the G2. if anything i'd have expected it to be the other way around.
Note 3 is in the phablet space, the G2 is a more appropriate rival to the Z1.
kantk20111 said:
I'm a bit surprised that the Xperia tablet Z isn't there on the tablet side though, I'd list it as one of the best tablets that you can buy right now. Anyhow, good job Sony Z1!
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And the only tablet besides the Nexus series that has a stable CM.
Why the note 10.1 (2014) attracts so much attention is a surprise as the previous note 10.1 model is still quite capable.
Z1 now 3th
Indeed
Just voted Z1 , let's see if can get it up to second place.
Best tablet nexus 7 !? People are crazy or they vote for the device they have, or the cheaper one instead of the better of the year, how nexus 7 which is a piece of ugly plastic could be better than tablet Z ? Crazy.
If they really forgot about it in the people poll then something is wrong with xda considering they made a Xperia Tablet Z competition some weeks ago...
Edit : misclick 'poll" and not "people" !
babylonbwoy said:
Best tablet nexus 7 !? People are crazy or they vote for the device they have, or the cheaper one instead of the better of the year, how nexus 7 which is a piece of ugly plastic could be better than tablet Z ? Crazy.
If they really forgot about it in the people then something is wrong with xda considering they made a Xperia Tablet Z competition some weeks ago...
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XDA people vote for nexus because it's the most easily moddable, that's probably why.
I'm quite surprised the Z1 made 3rd place. In order for a phone that's not commonly sold in the USA to score that high on US-centric website it has to be exceptionally good not just good. Well done Sony.
Z1 is great and if the votes keep coming it`ll be 2nd (I can see the appeal of Nexus 5).
Just voted
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Xperia Z4 - do you like this design?

Hi guys...
@niaboc79 point me to this web page
Apparently, this should be next Sony's big thing...
If you ask me, I don't like new look but we'll see final design once Sony announce this new beast.
And yeah...even many claimed it'll have S810, it'll probably be S805 with 4GB of ram.
Your photo about
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Don't get it...?
What do you wanna say?
I wouldent see why not the device would be so powerful, they have had some tough market recently and although sony isnt one to faulter in quality (exept Z2 hiccip)
Im hoping to come across a Z4 but my college budget says hell never.
That is the image of a Z3...
http://www.androidpit.com/sony-xperia-z4-release-date-news-specs-features
here is the features of the upcoming z4. I gonna buy this!!!
Nice but i hope sony will avoid onscreen buttons or at leastgive us an option just like oneplus one..
That pic just looks like a Z2 it seems though
Or perhaps something edited and also made to look poor quality
BTW - that digitiser isn't from Z4.
That's a fake.
I wonder about Z4, Sony need to have a 64bit cpu just for the name of it
Customers either go for lies or big titles, Sony trys not to lie but they also fail to provide at times
Z4 would need a 805 or above to arouse any eyes
Maybe not even that, perhaps lolipop, 64bit, QHD Display
Big words Avg customers dont know about
Yay marketing, Crude work
nope xperia design is loosing its point
The main reason wich made me buy a smartphone now was the genius design of the XZseries, but since the Z3 they go this ****ty casual rounded borders way wich just looks as every other Iphone.replicant...
When I look at my naked Z2, damn I get a tech.boner with nice crispy borders looks like a chocolate.bar! Yummyyummy
And hopefully the Z4 comes with an Ultra version thats the only thing I miss bout my Z2 make them bigger, I anyways charge daily whats the point of small screen for the sake of 30% battery over the night so u have to charge in the mifdle of the next day xD
I also had seen an Z4 design earlier wich went more onto my desired way of design but i think it was a phantom....Ill post a link when I find it later
XenoZirrka said:
The main reason wich made me buy a smartphone now was the genius design of the XZseries, but since the Z3 they go this ****ty casual rounded borders way wich just looks as every other Iphone.replicant...
When I look at my naked Z2, damn I get a tech.boner with nice crispy borders looks like a chocolate.bar! Yummyyummy
And hopefully the Z4 comes with an Ultra version thats the only thing I miss bout my Z2 make them bigger, I anyways charge daily whats the point of small screen for the sake of 30% battery over the night so u have to charge in the mifdle of the next day xD
I also had seen an Z4 design earlier wich went more onto my desired way of design but i think it was a phantom....Ill post a link when I find it later
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The Z4 will be almost the same as Z2. There are pics of the Display and the stereo speakers that are the same as our Z2's ( : So Sony heard us about the sh..ty Z3 design at least. I love my Z2 design also..Its just..stylish and elegant :fingers-crossed:
Looks much better than z3 .
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...he-Xperia-Z4-or-an-early-design-of-it_id63953
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Looks much better than z3 .
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...he-Xperia-Z4-or-an-early-design-of-it_id63953
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Saw it yesterday.Pitty that sony got hacked and now an info is leaking so early..but yes its better then the (Sony's iphoned version Z3).Thank god they are bringing back the z2's stereo speakers model as well.
Yes the picture is indeed leaked of the new Z4 from a new Bond movie but it is a concept:
Xperia Z Fourth Generation ^^
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
Pandemic said:
Yes the picture is indeed leaked of the new Z4 from a new Bond movie but it is a concept:
Xperia Z Fourth Generation ^^
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
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Is the GUI design in the picture will be Android L for Sony?
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OverTheEdge said:
Is the GUI design in the picture will be Android L for Sony?
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I dont know my friend, maybe ask Sony.
I found this picture on Nu.nl (A dutch news app)
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I like Sony, phone has good quality, design also nice
Xperia Z4 will be a 5.5" inch screen and UHD resolution and snapdragon 805 (confirmed informations) not much, but little informations is better than nothing

Android 5.1 coming to the Z.

Sony have officially announced that Android 5.1 is coming to the entire Z series starting from July. The support for this device just keeps getting better and better!
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kingvortex said:
Sony have officially announced that Android 5.1 is coming to the entire Z series starting from July. The support for this device just keeps getting better and better!
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4.1 - 5.1.x - better support than the Nexus 4.
Great move from Sony, a step ahead of the competition.
Tommy-Geenexus said:
4.1 - 5.1.x - better support than the Nexus 4.
Great move from Sony, a step ahead of the competition.
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Are there many (or any) devices that have had 5 official updates to major versions of Android? Sony are excelling themselves with their continued support.
kingvortex said:
Are there many (or any) devices that have had 5 official updates to major versions of Android? Sony are excelling themselves with their continued support.
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Great job Sony! But i do not expect it to be upgraded to Android M
5.1 is really service pack for 5.0. Current version is quite buggy
Talk softly, tread carefully and carry a big gun.
Well, for sure my next phone will be from Sony. I'm impressed!
Hugely impressed with the amount of upgrades. My phone is over 2 years old now and still as useful as day one. Nice work Sony...
lee480 said:
Great job Sony! But i do not expect it to be upgraded to Android M
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So much irony over here.. Previously before this annunciation we had post like „I don't expect Sony will bring us 5.0.x“,. after that we've seen „Sony is so dumbasse* that they can't bring us 5.1“ (or sth), and now, when we're officially getting 5.1 people start's saying „I don't expect Android M“.. c'mon, guys. We're so damn lucky that we even got 5.0.x, because our Z is 2+ years old.
come on guys even the nexus devices don't get updates tis much. instead of feeling bad about android m be glad about our XZ's having a L update. i think sony is doing a great job about android and phones or tablets. it's a shame that other phones users don't see the durability, camera, support and power of our devices.
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come on guys even the nexus devices don't get updates tis much. instead of feeling bad about android m be glad about our XZ's having a L update. i think sony is doing a great job about android and phones or tablets. it's a shame that other phones users don't see the durability, camera, support and power of our devices.
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camera takes very bad pictures especially after update
thats why i will stick to Sony. i abandoned Chinese handsets a long time ago and bought an Xperia Z with a nice open source policy, a big community and updates for this handset. Thank you Sony for supporting us!
I think we will wait another two or three months to have it on our Z. But I am very happy we will get it.
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camera takes very bad pictures especially after update
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well i think there are some camero improvements. especially speed of focus. it focuses faster than before and i tink low light photos are better too. at least i feel that way
Another 8 months more to get 5.1 based on my own speculation. Sony Mobile first announce their lollipop upgrade @oct last year and we got it after around 7 months.
5.0 -> 5.1 is a much simpler step than 4.4 -> 5.0 so it shouldn't take as long.
http://pocketnow.com/2015/06/04/sony-xperia-android-5-1
Paduretu Ionut said:
http://pocketnow.com/2015/06/04/sony-xperia-android-5-1
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That's what this thread is all about
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http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaz/software/
I wonder whether it will be 5.1.1 with the bug fixes
Any news about Camera2 API? Would love to see it on our beloved XZ
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