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4.4 kitkat 4 Xperia play (google said, technically)

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from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
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KitKat is all fine and dandy but without, I am sure, additional sources released by Sony (Ericsson) we will probably never get a JB kernel working and still retain full Xperia PLAY compatibility... then again I may be completely wrong and if I am someone correct me. I have stayed pretty much on GB for gaming. Either way, thanks for sharing... although I think this should go to the General forum.... anyways... thread on.

google says that they made the OS smaller and after so old devices that didn't get in the past update can now get update because they resolve many issues.

labbala said:
google says that they made the OS smaller and after so old devices that didn't get in the past update can now get update because they resolve many issues.
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Well maybe 4.4 is for older phones but as you know the companies support they devices for a short period of time. So no KitKat for us...

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google says that they made the OS smaller and after so old devices that didn't get in the past update can now get update because they resolve many issues.
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True but they also stated those will need to be updated by either the carrier or the manufacturer of the device(s). As $ony long ago gave up on the PLAY, I think its incredibly unlikely we will see any support form Sony and or even source releases.
Still, it would be awesome if we can get it up and running, but dont forget the highest kernel we can sort of get working, is kernel 3.4.
Kitkat would be an even higher kernel number.

Google isn't even releasing KitKat for the Galaxy Nexus. Sony isn't going to do it either, and it would need hardware drivers from Qualcomm side too.
Why is this thread in the dev section?

is that true?
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Sorry for wrong section... Anyway to delete? On another note, dony and erricson broke up so i dunno if they would be wanting to support our 2011 devices. All we can do id hope a dev/sony has the power to bring us 4.4...
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Nice Information

I think if the 3.4 Kernel is working it wont be difficult to get kitkat running. But as far there is no touch in 3.4
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I'm 100% sure that sony has abandoned our plays .It's a good news to hear that the upcoming android OS is going to be a light one

majed6 said:
I'm 100% sure that sony has abandoned our plays .It's a good news to hear that the upcoming android OS is going to be a light one
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They abandoned it,yes.As far as i know,there are no new models build and everything that is floating around in shops are the last produced batches,not getting the update to Android 4 kinda sealed this assumption

I don't know if the X Play will ever get KitKat but Google introduced a new runtime called ART to replace Dalvik with KitKat, on my Nexus 4 it really improve the performance to a substantial amount, so maybe that will help as well.
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Would be great if Sony would pay more attention to their old phones, specially because they cancelled the ics update so sudden.
But i don´t think this will happen.

And that's one reason I won't buy Sony again.

we will get 4.4, not official but we will get it.
once i got a play i will work on it, otherwise we will have an other dev.

nickholtus said:
we will get 4.4, not official but we will get it.
once i got a play i will work on it, otherwise we will have an other dev.
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so? is there anyone working on kitkat roms for xPlay? or its abandoned at all?

By the looks of it, KitKat is out of reach for our device, theres barely any 4.1 or 4.2 jellybean roms functioning, what makes you think we will get 4.4 any time soon? Our Play is best optimised for GB due to performance issues as ICS+ isn't 100% functional on our play. Don't believe me? try any ics rom out and sooner or later you will find out that games will lag and memory will tend to be low. Sorry but this is the bottom line for our xperia play.

Legacyxperia (mostly mike) is working to get gully working 3.4 kernel. Than we wpuld be able to boot kitkat.
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It is indeed possible, and I am saying this because I have NEO L(same as xplay) and I ran kitkat on my phone, thanks to @Mike's hard work. He reached at a point now where touch is working, he just need to have Wifi,Camera and some other things work and it will be there
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Android L discussion thread

Title says it all
Please stay on topic
Try to keep android L talk in this thread to avoid confusion

Using it on my N7 '13, it's pretty good.
37% more battery life seen on the N5 while browsing over WiFi. That's always a plus.
New toggles are great. Non customisable sadly.
The Cards task manager is great.
Material Design UI is great. Big, big change. Although the UI isn't consistent everywhere, many apps are yet to be updated for it.
The Camera API 2 also brings these to the table:
Many of the finer control*configurations*can also be modified, including:
Exposure time
ISO Sensitivity
Frame duration
Lens focus distance
Flash trigger
Color correction matrix
JPEG metadata
Tonemap curve
Crop region
AE / AF / AWB mode
AE / AWB lock
AF trigger
Precapture AE trigger
Metering regions
Exposure compensation
Target FPS range
Capture intent
Video stabilization
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Looks quite nice. Hopefully Sony will get a move on.

Is this discussion about Android L only, if so why is it in the 'Sony Xperia Z1' section of the forums?
As you see in this thread you have a chap posting images of the Android L on a Nexus 7 when this is a Sony Xperia Z1 section forums.
Sony's implementation will look nothing like the vanilla Android L.
I am sure there is a sub forum just for Android L chatter irrespective of what device you have outside of the 'Sony Xperia Z1' forum.

sm.vassallo said:
Is this discussion about Android L only, if so why is it in the 'Sony Xperia Z1' section of the forums?
As you see in this thread you have a chap posting images of the Android L on a Nexus 7 when this is a Sony Xperia Z1 section forums.
Sony's implementation will look nothing like the vanilla Android L.
I am sure there is a sub forum just for Android L chatter irrespective of what device you have outside of the 'Sony Xperia Z1' forum.
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why not. Sonys current launcher (xperia home) is very similar to standard android.
considering the was 4 billion discussions for Kitkat in the xperia z1 area not long ago, i dont see why we cant have 1 discussion for Android L

Tonian1878 said:
why not. Sonys current launcher (xperia home) is very similar to standard android.
considering the was 4 billion discussions for Kitkat in the xperia z1 area not long ago, i dont see why we cant have 1 discussion for Android L
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An Android L discussion is fine if it relates to the forum the thread was started.
The guy who started the post has an LG G2 for god sake.

sm.vassallo said:
An Android L discussion is fine if it relates to the forum the thread was started.
The guy who started the post has an LG G2 for god sake.
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LG g2 and g3, Xperia z1, HTC one m8, and galaxy s5
So I think I fine here

<facepalm> Android L is not even released, but: Shame on you Sony not releasing it yet... </facepalm>
(A typical Thread in Z1's XDA Forum)

Zachinater said:
LG g2 and g3, Xperia z1, HTC one m8, and galaxy s5
So I think I fine here
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Just another irrelevant thread then?
Here me thinking someone will start a good discussion thread with reference to the Sony Xperia Z1 and future Android L release by Sony in the Sony Xperia Z1 forum on XDA.
Who gives a toss for screenshots from a Nexus device?
Stupid me, should of relaised it is another useless thread.

sm.vassallo said:
Just another irrelevant thread then?
Here me thinking someone will start a good discussion thread with reference to the Sony Xperia Z1 and future Android L release by Sony in the Sony Xperia Z1 forum on XDA.
Who gives a toss for screenshots from a Nexus device?
Stupid me, should of relaised it is another useless thread.
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Um, I didn't post that, and its still on topic with android L. So its fine. Did you read the OP?

This says it all
http://prntscr.com/40qc5d
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You want to discuss about Android L even though Sony haven't released any news about it for our device? Useless thread is useless.
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I think this thread like the old android ones is good
what to expect,stay tuned ever if you are a newbie
for me this thread is a good view
you know... if sony anounce that will update,then the thread will be more useful to let you know the release date and more..

All of you trolling this thread, there are far more people who have benefited from this thread than those who have been ranting towards it so just stop

imho i think android L looks very bland/Boring i know there is not much happing just yet with it, but i am happy with what i have got, and i am not knocking this thread, i have seen lockscreens tried one of them and did'ent like it much, but good luck with your thread early days yet, kind regards joe.

Testing Firefox OS in Xperia SP

So, this is a great new !!
http://fxpblog.co/firefoxos/testing-firefox-os-on-sony-xperia-sp/

I had one question always.
Can we xsp users multi boot?

great ! firefox on sp wow

No, it's a side project so it doesn't get much time. Release won't be for several weeks. The issues are not only on the side of device porting but also on the side of Mozilla. It is still under active development, unlike Android which is only released when it is complete.

Yeah, but of we get Ubuntu, it'd better right? But alas, no dev to port it for xsp. Same is for Firefox. As @Levered said it'll take a lot of time to get updates from the op if it gets ported

Levered said:
No, it's a side project so it doesn't get much time. Release won't be for several weeks. The issues are not only on the side of device porting but also on the side of Mozilla. It is still under active development, unlike Android which is only released when it is complete.
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but it will get much attention by many devs and also Adam Farden will complete it , ya ya it may take several week or months.... but we can expect a new OS for our SP.
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Yeah, but of we get Ubuntu, it'd better right? But alas, no dev to port it for xsp. Same is for Firefox. As @Levered said it'll take a lot of time to get updates from the op if it gets ported
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Oh man
This is getting awesome!! I just want to try Ubuntu os but I'm a noob[emoji53]. So I'll rather wait and not make any threads for request.
And thanks man. You are awesome too for giving us hopes for a different os[emoji6]

pranavthombare said:
Oh man
This is getting awesome!! I just want to try Ubuntu os but I'm a noob[emoji53]. So I'll rather wait and not make any threads for request.
And thanks man. You are awesome too for giving us hopes for a different os[emoji6]
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I've talked to Adam Farden over this and he said its going to be released pretty soon , so stay tuned

Do you have any idea about eta? I know I shouldn't ask but still, a rough idea?

It seems nice
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Do you have any idea about eta? I know I shouldn't ask but still, a rough idea?
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ETA depends on Adam as he is setting up a auto build server i heard... , all features should be working already , just awaiting release...

pranavthombare said:
I had one question always.
Can we xsp users multi boot?
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No!
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Waiting for the firefox os for sp eagerly. Hope to see it can bring a totally new user experience to sp users
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Im waiting too.. Its very good to see Firefox os working on my sp..I'd like to see Ubuntu os too..
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No new news?
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I'm curious, what are you guys 'eager' to see this?
The reason for no release is due to camera. From what I can tell the camera blobs depend on some Android specific parts which will never be part of FxOS (of course).
Unless this is solved then I will probably not release this for Xperia SP as nobody will use it without a functioning camera.
I'm considering getting Xperia E1 to continue this project as this hardware is better supported in FxOS and it also looks like the camera blobs do not have this limitation.

adfad666 said:
I'm curious, what are you guys 'eager' to see this?
The reason for no release is due to camera. From what I can tell the camera blobs depend on some Android specific parts which will never be part of FxOS (of course).
Unless this is solved then I will probably not release this for Xperia SP as nobody will use it without a functioning camera.
I'm considering getting Xperia E1 to continue this project as this hardware is better supported in FxOS and it also looks like the camera blobs do not have this limitation.
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You caused it lol by posting this and showing a video everyone got all excited also you could just release non working build like many devs do with their custom ROMs: on some phones the phone might never have working wi-fi on custom ROMs (desire c fixed after about a year of tinkering) or if you check out the HTC one x custom ROMs they have a lot of stuff broken too!
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... you could just release non working build like many devs do with their custom ROMs ...
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No way, missing camera (and bluetooth) are missing features too big to warrant a release.
Besides, would anyone really permanently switch from Android to FxOS on Xperia SP if I fixed these two issues and released it? I'd bet money on it that people would use it for a couple of hours maximum, then realize they need the Google services that push all notifications to the phone.
(FxOS doesn't have push notifications for most things, pretty much everything has to be reloaded / refreshed manually, even syncing contact data.)

tested on older device..
I have already tested Firefox OS on my older Xperia E Dual device.. it kinda sucked.. I didn't like the way it felt and it was laggy and super slow.. maybe it is better here in XSP

[UPDATE] Lollipop Firmware rolling now, included C6902 pre-rooted firmware

UPDATE :
[ROM][C6902] 14.5.A.0.242 Official Stock Lollipop Gerenic LAM Pre-Rooted Zip
UPDATE :
Lollipop with build 14.5.A.0.242, Started rolling out
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It appears that roll out will be soon for Xperia Z1. Lollipop Firmware 14.5.A.0.242 certified on PTCRB.
https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=24327

Can't wait to see what is going to be new except for material design...

Thanks to all gods, the new one and the olds! I can't wait more!

woww! nyc to see this.. awaiting!!
:fingers-crossed:

Exellent news, but little strange... Why the major version (14) doesnt change?

Nice, still "A" rom!! Z1 is still a new device in sony opinion
5.0 will most probably not the last official rom of Z1
hope we have Z2 and Z3 audio goodies

What that means A software?
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Finally!!!!!!!

Don't get your expectations too high people, dont be suprised if Sony remove some things.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572226

albertobom said:
Don't get your expectations too high people, dont be suprised if Sony remove some things.
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+1 buddy
We'll see material design only and maybe new updated apps like album and music (maybe).
I know the feeling when you see new update is coming, but we know also how the things go when we speak about marketing.
And I repeat, it's not sony, it's marketing.
I will feel more happy when new custom roms based on latest firmware will come out

when wil it be avalible for dowbload?

albertobom said:
Don't get your expectations too high people, dont be suprised if Sony remove some things.
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And then we at XDA will port most missing features over
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Let's Hope, It is Bug-Free.... Some Improvements with the Camera, too... It's most probably the Last Major Upgrade, Let's Hope it will be Solid-Smooth-Perfect....

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Sony said that other variants of the Xperia Z series would start to see the update in around two weeks after z3 and z2, so expect it in these day, don't know the exact day, maybe tomorrow, monday or tuesday.

Gladwin_Prince said:
Let's Hope, It is Bug-Free.... Some Improvements with the Camera, too... It's most probably the Last Major Upgrade, Let's Hope it will be Solid-Smooth-Perfect....
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I don't think that this won't be our last major upgrade. We will continue to see major updates until Z1 becomes 2 years old. (My poinion)

I'll be happy with the camera button to open the camera while the phone is sleeping on material
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I'll be happy with the camera button to open the camera while the phone is sleeping on material
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I think that's a hardware problem. I had absolutely same bug on my Z1, but ater changing the motherboard this bug disappear, and now HW button works well!

No Camera2 API = Lollipop is dead to me
I'm perfectly fine with Kit Kat as it's stable and bug free and has amazing battery life.

Wiltron said:
No Camera2 API = Lollipop is dead to me
I'm perfectly fine with Kit Kat as it's stable and bug free and has amazing battery life.
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New camera api need drivers update (it depends also on hardware, not only on software, so lollipop is not synonymous of camera api 2). For now even on z3 and z2 there aren't, speak about xperia family. Don't expect camera api 2 on our phone, first thing for a marketing choice. Which are the phones with new camera api support? For example, I saw Nexus 5....
Oh yes, s6 and m9 lol

Android 5.1 coming to the Z.

Sony have officially announced that Android 5.1 is coming to the entire Z series starting from July. The support for this device just keeps getting better and better!
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kingvortex said:
Sony have officially announced that Android 5.1 is coming to the entire Z series starting from July. The support for this device just keeps getting better and better!
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4.1 - 5.1.x - better support than the Nexus 4.
Great move from Sony, a step ahead of the competition.

Tommy-Geenexus said:
4.1 - 5.1.x - better support than the Nexus 4.
Great move from Sony, a step ahead of the competition.
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Are there many (or any) devices that have had 5 official updates to major versions of Android? Sony are excelling themselves with their continued support.

kingvortex said:
Are there many (or any) devices that have had 5 official updates to major versions of Android? Sony are excelling themselves with their continued support.
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Great job Sony! But i do not expect it to be upgraded to Android M

5.1 is really service pack for 5.0. Current version is quite buggy
Talk softly, tread carefully and carry a big gun.

Well, for sure my next phone will be from Sony. I'm impressed!

Hugely impressed with the amount of upgrades. My phone is over 2 years old now and still as useful as day one. Nice work Sony...

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Great job Sony! But i do not expect it to be upgraded to Android M
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So much irony over here.. Previously before this annunciation we had post like „I don't expect Sony will bring us 5.0.x“,. after that we've seen „Sony is so dumbasse* that they can't bring us 5.1“ (or sth), and now, when we're officially getting 5.1 people start's saying „I don't expect Android M“.. c'mon, guys. We're so damn lucky that we even got 5.0.x, because our Z is 2+ years old.

come on guys even the nexus devices don't get updates tis much. instead of feeling bad about android m be glad about our XZ's having a L update. i think sony is doing a great job about android and phones or tablets. it's a shame that other phones users don't see the durability, camera, support and power of our devices.

semder said:
come on guys even the nexus devices don't get updates tis much. instead of feeling bad about android m be glad about our XZ's having a L update. i think sony is doing a great job about android and phones or tablets. it's a shame that other phones users don't see the durability, camera, support and power of our devices.
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camera takes very bad pictures especially after update

thats why i will stick to Sony. i abandoned Chinese handsets a long time ago and bought an Xperia Z with a nice open source policy, a big community and updates for this handset. Thank you Sony for supporting us!

I think we will wait another two or three months to have it on our Z. But I am very happy we will get it.

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camera takes very bad pictures especially after update
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well i think there are some camero improvements. especially speed of focus. it focuses faster than before and i tink low light photos are better too. at least i feel that way

Another 8 months more to get 5.1 based on my own speculation. Sony Mobile first announce their lollipop upgrade @oct last year and we got it after around 7 months.

5.0 -> 5.1 is a much simpler step than 4.4 -> 5.0 so it shouldn't take as long.

http://pocketnow.com/2015/06/04/sony-xperia-android-5-1

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That's what this thread is all about

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http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaz/software/

I wonder whether it will be 5.1.1 with the bug fixes

Any news about Camera2 API? Would love to see it on our beloved XZ
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