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Warning: Don't buy this case for fuze

I purchased this case from daydeal.com
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=28226&cat=3920
And it puts pressure on both the outer edge of the touch screen and the touch pad at the base of the machine. The fit is great, but this button/screen pressure renders the screen and buttons useless.
If anyone has any advice other than throwing this in the garbage, please let me know. I've considered a dremmel tool session, but I'm not sure it's worth it on such an inexpensive part.
Buyer beware!
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sand it down using a nail filer.

I agree. It seems that several cases like this have the same problem. I used a small knife, but you can use just about anything to scrape down the inner mold remnants and then it works fine.

Well, sure... thanks. Like I said, I might break out the dremmel tool and do a nice finishing job on this.
The main point is that we shouldn't HAVE to alter products to make them have their basic function. To me, this is like buying car tires that are square, and all you have to do is shave off the corners until they're round so they can roll. $13, or however much it is going for these days, is really quite expensive for two pieces of plastic. It's even more expensive when they don't work out of the box.
So, buyer beware.

Would it have been so tough to include the case name into the thread title? Generically mystery threads ain't cool...

I got a similar case... but all I did was spend 2 hours of filing lol... sucked but works great so far.. hopefully the coating doesn't peel off anytime soon.. not bad for a 9 dollar case on ebay

mine it's transparent any suggestions?

ekruse said:
I purchased this case from daydeal.com
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=28226&cat=3920
And it puts pressure on both the outer edge of the touch screen and the touch pad at the base of the machine. The fit is great, but this button/screen pressure renders the screen and buttons useless.
If anyone has any advice other than throwing this in the garbage, please let me know. I've considered a dremmel tool session, but I'm not sure it's worth it on such an inexpensive part.
Buyer beware!
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Thanks!!! I got my case the same night I loaded a new ROM. My case only caused intermittant problems, so I thought it was the ROM. I was getting ready to flash to the previous ROM when I read this thread. I removed the case and have not had the problem since. My case was clear also. My solution was to throw the case away and order a different style case.

Is this just as bad..
I was looking at possibly getting this case for my Fuze, then I seen this thread. This case looks pretty much the same, but not sure as how
it will fit, and I rather not purchase something that will cause problems.
It's from a different website, but could potentially have the same issue.
Anyone think it's worth it? Or just forget that style of case altogether?
Also wondering, if these types of cases hender in when your trying to acess the 'softkeys' on the screen [the lil calender & contacts spot]. I like being able to slide my thumb from there to the buttons, but i was wonder if the lil spot between could become a problem. Thanks.
http://www.wirelessground.com/fuzeobcsmoke.html

i love the black rubberized case. i got it off of ebay and just sanded down the inside with some rough sandpaper. i painted the inside black because the edges show and now it looks great.

I bought something similar, but it was the black silicon case, so it is flexible. It's a bit annoying at times, as it is flimsy, but it does what I need it to do. I picked this thing up for around $6 shipped on ebay.

If you read my thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761 you will see what I did. All I did was sand down the inside upper left of the case and it has worked perfectly ever since. I posted pictures in the thread also. Hope that helps.
The case is really great, after you take the pressure off the inside upper left corner.

For what it's worth...I have this case in pink and I haven't had a single problem. I put it on the second day I had my device and it's been on ever since (only removed a couple of times to get to sd and sim).
I didn't need to file anything down. Maybe the difference is in the manufacturing of the color lot.

For those who don't mind spending a little more to protect their investment...(To me it's a BIG investment) http://www.noreveusa.com/product/HTC_P4600_-_HTC_Touch_Pro_Tradition_leather_case.html All buttons and interfaces accessible. Great protection!!

Seidio Innocase
Got my from Seidio and no mods was needed. Touch worked perfectly right out of the box. Link take you to the case and the clip combo, but if you choose not to use the clip, the case can be purchased by itself.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD2-HLCSR2HTFE-BK

I have that case. . just went ahead and ground it down a bit. . ain't no thang at all. But before doing that, it did mess the screen up.

jlee1026 said:
Got my from Seidio and no mods was needed. Touch worked perfectly right out of the box. Link take you to the case and the clip combo, but if you choose not to use the clip, the case can be purchased by itself.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD2-HLCSR2HTFE-BK
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50 bucks?!
Man. . I think I paid like 5.
I know that's with clip, but holy crap that's a lot for that case.

ekruse said:
Well, sure... thanks. Like I said, I might break out the dremmel tool and do a nice finishing job on this.
The main point is that we shouldn't HAVE to alter products to make them have their basic function. To me, this is like buying car tires that are square, and all you have to do is shave off the corners until they're round so they can roll. $13, or however much it is going for these days, is really quite expensive for two pieces of plastic.
It's even more expensive when they don't work out of the box.
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So, buyer beware.
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Couldnt agree more,I bought a new fuze from att and when it got here the spring or the slide one was way loose,it clicked when you are talking on it, called to get a replacement exchange the day after, I was told I would have to BUY another phone and when they recieved mine they would credit me.I am still p.o.ed,I told they lady that I already paid for a new phone and apparently didnt get one and this wasnt right.

at&t version of the case
I haven't noticed any problems with the "same style" case offered by at&t, but, I popped the top cover off of mine. I have a "invisible shield" screen protector on my Fuze, and noticed a slight indentation on the top left corner, and I also noticed a slight indentation above the left & right areas above the "HTC" logo at the bottom of the screen. Like I said, I haven't noticed the problems pointed out here, but I thought that if I'm seeing an indentation on the invisible shield,
then there has to be some pressure being applied to the screen. I went ahead and shaved the areas noted with the red in the photo below. Hope this helps.

I got a similar case off ebay too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220306410400&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
works great. no need for filing whatsoever.

(WARNING) Mirror/Reflective Screen Covers

Hello all,
Just wanted to post up a warning about purchasing mirror/protective screen covers for your TP/Fuze/Diamond!
I purchased these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250365082878
the overall quality of them seems great, they have a protective covering on both sides for the application process (similar to "Screen Guards" brand covers).
but..... upon installation this is the result:
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As you can see, it makes the phone almost unusable due to the rainbow effect... what is odd is it doesn't have that effect if I look at the phone from an extreme angle, so if I look at it with the phone laying flat and my eyes right near the hardware keys, it doesn't look rainbowy.... bleh
Just an FYI! has anyone had similar experiences?
Thx
JFlitt

That seems to just be the way those mirror finish screen protectors are. I bought a cut to size proporta echo one for my samsung p2 mp3 player and its like a truck full of carebears exploded on my screen. My buddy also got one for his sprint touch pro, same result.

I don't have a white background screen, it's entirely black. Everything on my phone is black-themed so I don't have the distortion of colors as much. That may solve the problem. Either that, or get another screen protector.

for years now I have been using the Brando Screen protectors.
I've used them on all my pdas, media players and cell phones. The quality and clarity are unbeatable if you ask me.
I just cleaned my old SE W850 which my son now uses. the screen protector has been on the phone for 2 years now and it is still sitting fine! (no corner lift). Sure, the protector is a little scratched after 2 years of service but the phone underneath is as good as new!

lacrossev said:
That seems to just be the way those mirror finish screen protectors are. I bought a cut to size proporta echo one for my samsung p2 mp3 player and its like a truck full of carebears exploded on my screen. My buddy also got one for his sprint touch pro, same result.
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Greatest quote ever.

Hahah agreed on the carebears statement, pretty damn funny!
Anywho, I will say this much though, that seller who I bought these from on ebay has been really great as far as customer service is concerned. I emailed him letting him know about this issue and sent these pictures along. He couldn't believe that is what they looked like and was very angry at the factory for providing a product like this. He is sending me 3 clear and 3 anti-glare protectors to make up for this (which I think is very commendable). It would seem that the problem with these is related to the polarization used to cause the mirror effect and then let the light through when the light is on behind the cover.... what is odd is it clears up if I look down the phone holding it flat..... very intesting and annoying!
Just thought I would let everyone know!
I can't wait either.... I feel like I'm tripping on something every time I use my phone as it is now haha!!
Thanks
JFlitt

Not sure exactly what seems to be causing this. As I did have similar mirror screen protectors on my Kaiser and never experienced this.
Perhaps these are simply a bad batch / brand.
I am still running on the stock smooth screen protector (using the tape cleaning method) however, once that peels off I will begin my search for either a mirror, privacy or anti-glare. I haven't found one that I really liked of any so far.

Looks a little like a moiré pattern. See what happens if you put the screen protector on at a 90 degree angle (yes, it will be only partially protected, but this is just a test). If it is less notable, it appears the LCD elements on the screen are lining up with the way the screen protector is cut. Same thing will happen on a digital photo copier. The way the CCD "sees" line art can sometimes do that if the original is a "screen" print (very very small tiny dots as opposed to a solid image). You can "simulate" the effect by taking a good quality pair of sunglasses, and hold it over something like a digital wristwatch with LCD screen, and rotate the sunglasses clock-counter clockwise until the image on the watch disappears.
Not much you can do but get a different brand of screen protector.

Seems to be polarized by the way I see my mirror screen protector. Mine does it too. I have polarized sunglasses and when I turn the phone 90' it goes black (almost, but close enough) so that's why I think it might be polarized.
Also, they scratch to easy for me.

I bought one along with 3 regular screen protectors...honestly the only complaint I have is fingerprints are much more apparent. The rainbow effect is very rare for me...only at a certain angle with enough light...just my 2 cents...

jasezero said:
I bought one along with 3 regular screen protectors...honestly the only complaint I have is fingerprints are much more apparent. The rainbow effect is very rare for me...only at a certain angle with enough light...just my 2 cents...
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Yea I dunno if this is just a bad batch or what... but there are definatelly some issues, this isn't rare or at certain angles... this is all over!
Thx
JFlitt

how hard was to put a couple of magnets to the phone? get in and look at my idea...

So I was asking to myself.... how hard could have been? I also thought... is common sense the the phone needed some kind of mechanism to lock the phone when closed and opened, right?
Well, then after thinking I came to a conclusion that well we, users could get creative and do something about it, so I went into a quest looking for the smallest and thinness magnet I could find and I came across magnets that are only 1/32" thick.... now... I thought if I could find a way to cleanly attach them to the phone in places that I already have thought of ( will show tomorrow when I get to my computer ) and would be the least visible.
What do you guys think? Any ideas about attaching the magnets?

Juan I have been looking for magnets, and finding the ideal location....there was a thread a while back regarding tape on the inside between the ribbon and the "z" leg.....I like this idea, but my concern is over GPS use. I'm sure one ca calibrate the bearings, but not sure how it would affect GPS signal....
Please post pics and experiences...really interested in doing this myself, as TMO will no stand by the defective hinge...sorry "design feature"!

juanshop said:
So I was asking to myself.... how hard could have been? I also thought... is common sense the the phone needed some kind of mechanism to lock the phone when closed and opened, right?
Well, then after thinking I came to a conclusion that well we, users could get creative and do something about it, so I went into a quest looking for the smallest and thinness magnet I could find and I came across magnets that are only 1/32" thick.... now... I thought if I could find a way to cleanly attach them to the phone in places that I already have thought of ( will show tomorrow when I get to my computer ) and would be the least visible.
What do you guys think? Any ideas about attaching the magnets?
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I posted a pretty detailed post in the accessories forum. You might want to look at the "hinge fix" thread over there.

Magnets might interfere with the compass

Look into how the magnets might effect your signal a well.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using Tapatalk

That's why I'm going to buy the magnets and do tests and see how much will interfere with the phone. So if anyone of you guys is interested, I will keep y'all posted.
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juanshop said:
That's why I'm going to buy the magnets and do tests and see how much will interfere with the phone. So if anyone of you guys is interested, I will keep y'all posted.
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I could swear I saw what looked like magnets on the display g2's at the tmobile stores I went to this week. They all looked like they had a small strip of magnets on each side by the hinge (on the under side of the screen and the body).
Maybe it was just a display model thing, but the phones were active demos.

this is exactly what i was thinking about doing but there seems to be to many problems with compass gps and possibly mememory loss if only there was a way to magetize the ones already in there

I personally think I see an easier way.
I'm going to try to attach a tiny piece of felt to the side of the Z hinge so it wedges a little more securely inside the recessed area on the top of the screen.
Open your keyboard, and you'll see where the hinge arms sit inside the recessed areas with small 1mm or so gaps on either side.
I think it'll work...

we need velcro
Keep us updated with your progress

I just picked up a package of (2) 5x8 inch magnetic sheets (self adhesive). The cost was under $2.
It is super thin (looking for my digital calipers, but I would guess 1/32 or thinner. Im going to give this a try and post some pics if it works well. If it works, this should be enough magnetic sheet to fix every G2 produced by HTC this year.
Well, I have found no ill effects of the magnetic material and it WORKS... I can now hold the phone upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. Of course if you shake it, it will open. But it will not open or close during natural use.
Took about 2 minutes to do, cost under $2 and I could do another 100 phones with the material I have.
Here are the pics:
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How the F do magnets work, anyway?

im worried about putting magnets near a hard drive or radio.
What about rubber bands of some sort, such that when screen is fully out they lock, but otherwise snap back?

carlsbad0331 said:
I just picked up a package of (2) 5x8 inch magnetic sheets (self adhesive). The cost was under $2.
It is super thin (looking for my digital calipers, but I would guess 1/32 or thinner. Im going to give this a try and post some pics if it works well. If it works, this should be enough magnetic sheet to fix every G2 produced by HTC this year.
Well, I have found no ill effects of the magnetic material and it WORKS... I can now hold the phone upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. Of course if you shake it, it will open. But it will not open or close during natural use.
Took about 2 minutes to do, cost under $2 and I could do another 100 phones with the material I have.
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exellent! exellent!!!! just what i had in mind! that was exactly my plan, now, here, the same can be applied here ( i dont see on the pics but did you applied for when the phone is open or closed? or both? if is only when the phone is closed, well look at my picture, is paint quality LOL but i think it can be understood, with the magnets aldeady on the back of the screen, a couple of other magnets can be placed on the red area of the picture, thats a perfect area because there's an indentation there, and a little piece there would not affect the keyboard at all.
pd: info on where you got that material would be awesome, thanks!
pd2: i will do my own too and try different things and test the phone for at least a couple of weeks and see whats happens, also i will let you guys know the end results, i have insurance on my phone so if something happens i can get a new one on the way
pd3: i read for the phone to be affected by magnetic fields, it has to be a really powerful magnet, just look at other phones with magnets in the market... they seem perfectly fine.

I only did this for when the phone is open. Ive never had the phone open from the closed position.
I picked up the package of magnetic sheet at Target. It was in the craft section in a purple plastic envelope. It is made by Horizon Group USA and the SKU number is 765940168059.

going there right now!

Just an FYI, all 3 of my old Sidekicks had magnets so they won't interfere with cell or GPS signal. I am unsure about the compass however. I was considering a similar idea as well only with a couple tiny round silver magnets on the bottom section tops corners and screen section middle sides.

Sorry for this off topic but, why is your phone so shiny? like a polished metalic grey. Looks actually very nice. Polished? full skin?

Most likely took picture using a flash so we could see the magnets
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And like always my local target doesn't have any gonna try Walmart.
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Screen surface problem

My son is playing one game on my note very often. Few days ago I've spot that in the place where there is a steering in his game (so he touches only that part of the screen) my finger is not moving smooth through that area (it is like brake in the screen ) Also the smudges typical to stay on the screen when you drive the finger though it are not staying in that area. When I was cleaning the screen I've spot the dampness of the cloth I use is not covering that spot.
I always clean the screen only with a dump soft cloth and never had any problem like this before with any other device.
Did any one else had similar problem before?
Is it possible the protective layer on the screen had been removed of that area?
May it be a warranty issue or it will not cover it (the tablet is 3 months old)?
Do you have any idea how I can repair it?
Regards
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kayteck1 said:
My son is playing one game on my note very often. Few days ago I've spot that in the place where there is a steering in his game (so he touches only that part of the screen) my finger is not moving smooth through that area (it is like brake in the screen ) Also the smudges typical to stay on the screen when you drive the finger though it are not staying in that area. When I was cleaning the screen I've spot the dampness of the cloth I use is not covering that spot.
I always clean the screen only with a dump soft cloth and never had any problem like this before with any other device.
Did any one else had similar problem before?
Is it possible the protective layer on the screen had been removed of that area?
May it be a warranty issue or it will not cover it (the tablet is 3 months old)?
Do you have any idea how I can repair it?
Regards
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Is it a break down of the screen or could it be a residue from something that was on the users hands. From what you are describing it sounds like it may be a build up of oils or maybe silicon.

It would be very difficult for a finger to damage the screen unless it had sand or soil on it.
I suggest that you try some dish soap / detergent on it to cut through any deposit and repolish.
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I've tried soap, washing-up liquid and surgical spirit with no luck.
When i was trying to clean it with surgical spirit, the cloth was driving difficult through that area and squicking.
When the screen is cleaned there is no sign of any spot or anything on it. It looks perfectly clean.
I am afraid to do any more cleaning on it not to make bigger damages
I don't think any sand or dirt was on his fingers as I ask my kids to wash their hands every time before taking the tablet.
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If you can see the spot you are talking about could you post a photo of it.

Like I said, there are NO visible marks at all when the screen is cleaned. The only thing then stating that something is wrong is a little resist (like roughness) when driving a cloth over that area. Visually everything is 100%.
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But, when you start using it, you can see there is a different mark of finger smudges in that area and when I huffed on the cleaned screen, that is what I got.
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I know this does not help the issue.. But you could but a screen protector. (the cheaper plastic feel ones work best with s pen ).
Also call samsung it does sound like it would be covered by Warranty ..
Reminds me to put screen protector on my tablet today. i took it off because it was very old ..
Good Luck...
Erica Renee .. The Geeky Chic

Try pure carnuba car wax...

BarryH_GEG said:
Try pure carnuba car wax...
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is this a joke?
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erica_renee said:
I know this does not help the issue.. But you could but a screen protector. (the cheaper plastic feel ones work best with s pen ).
Also call samsung it does sound like it would be covered by Warranty ..
Reminds me to put screen protector on my tablet today. i took it off because it was very old ..
Good Luck...
Erica Renee .. The Geeky Chic
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already ordered one today... hope the spot won't be spot from beneath the protector...
anyway i will try to sort it out under warranty as it does look like screen surface issue for me.
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looks like an abrasive has done damage there, you can see the marks. no warranty will cover that.

kayteck1 said:
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Nope. I wax my screens, even those with protectors, regularly. It makes S Pen and my fingers glide easier and helps keep abrasives from accumulating or scratching the display. Carnauba wax is natural and won't harm the display.

GoNz0 said:
looks like an abrasive has done damage there, you can see the marks. no warranty will cover that.
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I would have to agree with GoNz0........
Did you happen to purchase an extended warranty w/accident protection?

whats the kid been doing, eating sweets while playing?
even worst would be munching a bag of crisps and rubbing salt onto the screen.
crap, i better get a protector on mine, my 3 year old uses it :|

Z3 Compact... Microscoped!

Le power button:
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Part of le camera button:
The touch grid:
Pixels!
Screen off:
Speaker's waterproof mesh.
Magnetic charging port:
Headphone jack:
Gap between display glass and body.
Micro SD flap text?
Dat rear camera:
Zee LED Flash:
Front camera:

I immediately looked at my phone's bottom mic hole to look for debris.
Excellent photos. Thanks.

Thing is filthy, clean that damn thing ...

I won't eat spaghetti after watch these picture......

NRG1975 said:
Thing is filthy, clean that damn thing ...
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It looked pretty clean with the naked eye
The thing is that everything looks filthy under a microscope

That's awesome, thanks for sharing

Lol, pretty awesome (and disturbing ) pics!
I love how the cameras actually look like an eye to me

It is pretty cool, the center being so black that you just cannot see anything in it despite 8 super bright LED's

Very cool images. Was interesting to see from the perspective that the phone is waterproof and what they did to the material/design to make it so.

That freaking gap between the glass and body...
I just sent mine back because of it, hoping it was a fault and that the replacement will be better.

withoutwings said:
That freaking gap between the glass and body...
I just sent mine back because of it, hoping it was a fault and that the replacement will be better.
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That is actually the normal gap. The gaps are very small in reality and they are even on all sides of my phone, but look very large with the 200x magnification...
Some units do have an excessively large large gap either top or bottom, but that's not the case for mine.

degraaff said:
That is actually the normal gap. The gaps are very small in reality and they are even on all sides of my phone, but look very large with the 200x magnification...
Some units do have an excessively large large gap either top or bottom, but that's not the case for mine.
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Mine was worst around the corners, and one edge was worse than the other... so a bit uneven I guess. What annoyed me the most was the ease at which dust would settle in it.
Well, that gives me hope for at least some improvement!

withoutwings said:
Mine was worst around the corners, and one edge was worse than the other... so a bit uneven I guess. What annoyed me the most was the ease at which dust would settle in it.
Well, that gives me hope for at least some improvement!
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Mine has slightly larger gaps at some corners as well. I just have the impression that the outer parts on Sony's newer phones and tablets are fitted less tightly than their older devices. I do know they intentionally need to leave some gap, because removing the glass is the only way to get to the internals with these new unibody devices.

That may be a reason why the glass eventually breaks easier than on other devices though. Damage to the edges is very critical for hardened glass.

degraaff said:
Mine has slightly larger gaps at some corners as well. I just have the impression that the outer parts on Sony's newer phones and tablets are fitted less tightly than their older devices. I do know they intentionally need to leave some gap, because removing the glass is the only way to get to the internals with these new unibody devices.
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Couldn't they just prise the plastic corner edging off to get to it? On my Z1C there is almost no gap between the glass and that edging, so I find it hard to believe it's necessary now. No, it looks like loose manufacturing/quality controls to me, especially when the severity of it varies between devices...

withoutwings said:
Couldn't they just prise the plastic corner edging off to get to it? On my Z1C there is almost no gap between the glass and that edging, so I find it hard to believe it's necessary now. No, it looks like loose manufacturing/quality controls to me, especially when the severity of it varies between devices...
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It doesn't look like it's possible to remove the corners, you can't feel any separation between the corners and the sides, it's as if it's melted together or something.
By the way, the nylon corners don't sit directly against the glass, there is still the plastic rim front and back that goes all around the glass.

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Going back to the gaps, my top gap is annoying large is filling with sand and dust (pocket crud). Anyone have any pointers to removing this?
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I will try to find an alternative to host the pictures, this thread made my photo bucket bandwidth usage skyrocket from 0 to exceeding 10 GB in a day, LOL.

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