As you guys probably know, Moto X,G & E got android 4.4.3 a few hours after its release.
So today a few minutes ago David Schuster posted this in the comments:
David Schuster said:
I see a lot of comments on a couple different threads asking about the 2013 DROID plans. Now that KitKat 4.4.3 is publicly available I am able to give more information about our plans. As I have stated previously, we ran into some issues with requirement churn on getting KitKat 4.4.2 out as quickly as we wanted too. Once that got resolved last month we had a decision to make with respect to rolling out KitKat 4.4.2 vs. waiting for KitKat 4.4.3, which we knew, was coming out shortly. We were concerned that if we used KitKat 4.4.2 it could be months before we were given the opportunity to get you KitKat 4.4.3. Consequently, we made the decision to wait for KitKat 4.4.3 as the base for our next update to the 2013 DROID family. We are working to get this update to you shortly, as it gets closer I will let you guys know. Thanks for your patience.
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https://plus.google.com/102838570385793445288/posts/EiWDVJ2LE17
So the 2013 Droids Lineup are getting 4.4.3
thats good news, thanks motorola for not forgetting about us!
What do you guys think? i honestly dont care if it takes a month or two, just the news that we are getting something its good to my concern.
I just wish the life expectancy of a phone was longer. We probably should have got 4.4.2 a long time ago. I just want 5.0... Just my opinion.
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Lol beat me to it!
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All I can say is this is definitely the last "droid" phone that I buy
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Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound ungrateful... I'm glad we're getting something, but I just don't like how Verizon has such a strangle hold on these phones
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Wish Verizon would let us trade for a moto x
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rmjones2006 said:
All I can say is this is definitely the last "droid" phone that I buy
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Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound ungrateful... I'm glad we're getting something, but I just don't like how Verizon has such a strangle hold on these phones
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What Verizon device are you going to choose that has faster updates? And what are you missing that hasn't been updated yet?
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What Verizon device are you going to choose that has faster updates? And what are you missing that hasn't been updated yet?
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Not sure what yet, maybe the moto x+1 or wait and see how the silver line plays out.
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Just to add to this. I'll be doing a full port over from the T-Mobile 4.4.3 update as soon as the appropriate files become available. Would be easier to do the VZW 4.4.3, but until then T-Mo it is.
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Just to add to this. I'll be doing a full port over from the T-Mobile 4.4.3 update as soon as the appropriate files become available. Would be easier to do the VZW 4.4.3, but until then T-Mo it is.
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Thanks bud appreciate your hard work. I just wish the x firmware was 100% compatible with the droids. A few little quirks screw it up like the active notifications half work. If it was 100% I would have been running 4.2.2 all along.
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Thanks bud appreciate your hard work. I just wish the x firmware was 100% compatible with the droids. A few little quirks screw it up like the active notifications half work. If it was 100% I would have been running 4.2.2 all along.
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Yeah I have a few things I want to try on this new update to try and correct that. Just a waiting game now
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akellar said:
What Verizon device are you going to choose that has faster updates? And what are you missing that hasn't been updated yet?
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The Moto X has been getting faster updates on Verizon for sure.
The home key bug, the share menu bug, the loss of Google connectivity in low signal areas bug, battery drain issues on KitKat, some people have BT issues, OTG mounting support - all of these (some minor) have not been patched for over five months now. I'm glad that an update is coming, but it's brainless that Verizon wanted a minor radio patch that could have been provided with a full 4.4.2 update, but at least now we don't have to wait a long time for a 4.4.3 update.
Honestly, I am ok with the phone as-is. The Google account issues only happened to me once, the share bug twice, but others have been plagued with these issues - daily having to re-authenticate to Google servers when they drive through low signal areas back and forth to work, etc.
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The Moto X has been getting faster updates on Verizon for sure.
The home key bug, the share menu bug, the loss of Google connectivity in low signal areas bug, battery drain issues on KitKat, some people have BT issues, OTG mounting support - all of these (some minor) have not been patched for over five months now. I'm glad that an update is coming, but it's brainless that Verizon wanted a minor radio patch that could have been provided with a full 4.4.2 update, but at least now we don't have to wait a long time for a 4.4.3 update.
Honestly, I am ok with the phone as-is. The Google account issues only happened to me once, the share bug twice, but others have been plagued with these issues - daily having to re-authenticate to Google servers when they drive through low signal areas back and forth to work, etc.
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All devices have bugs and all devices have threads where people don't think they get updated fast enough. The grass is always greener...
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All devices have bugs and all devices have threads where people don't think they get updated fast enough. The grass is always greener...
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Yes, they do. But you asked two questions, and I answered them.
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Yes, they do. But you asked two questions, and I answered them.
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Well if u don't like bugs.. Download and flash a stable custom ROM... Provided you unlocked your phone when everyone else did
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I read this on Droid-Life, it was good hear we are getting 4.4.3 at least. The X8 chip is actually pretty nice.
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Not sure if I have the 4.4.3 update as all mine shows is 4.4.
Can anyone confirm?
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Not sure if I have the 4.4.3 update as all mine shows is 4.4.
Can anyone confirm?
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You are on the most recent Droid MAXX/Ultra/Mini update, 19.6.3, which is just 4.4, not 4.4.3.
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You are on the most recent Droid MAXX/Ultra/Mini update, 19.6.3, which is just 4.4, not 4.4.3.
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Great! Thank you for the info.
I sincerely hope they can unlock all 2013 droids' bootloader officially rather than getting 4.4.3...
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I sincerely hope they can unlock all 2013 droids' bootloader officially rather than getting 4.4.3...
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Verizon would never allow that on a "production' device.
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Ok, we all saw that is was reported the ota might FINALLY be released on Aug 18. Well, the day is today so somebody please give me some good news on the subject.
Bragging welcomed!
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Even with the stock ROM, phones that have been rooted will not be able to see the update, correct?
I don't think that will affect an ota. We've never had an ota since root was found for it so we can't go from experience. I've heard that as long as the radio and hboot are stock you should be able to receive the ota's, but like I said I don't think anybody really knows at this point.
This is the most recent thing I've seen from Verizon on the subject of the Incredible OTA taken from Twitter:
VZWSupport @theMark_S At this time we do not have information regarding the Froyo update for the Incredible. *AN
Looks pretty familiar. It's the same thing we've been hearing since June. Wasn't the update for the Evo and Moto Droid publicized pretty well before it actually hit? Verizon or HTC hasn't said a damn thing publicly about our updateleading me too believe its probably just another "leaked" rumor.
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htc_woe_is_me said:
I don't think that will affect an ota. We've never had an ota since root was found for it so we can't go from experience. I've heard that as long as the radio and hboot are stock you should be able to receive the ota's, but like I said I don't think anybody really knows at this point.
This is the most recent thing I've seen from Verizon on the subject of the Incredible OTA taken from Twitter:
VZWSupport @theMark_S At this time we do not have information regarding the Froyo update for the Incredible. *AN
Looks pretty familiar. It's the same thing we've been hearing since June. Wasn't the update for the Evo and Moto Droid publicized pretty well before it actually hit? Verizon or HTC hasn't said a damn thing publicly about our updateleading me too believe its probably just another "leaked" rumor.
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Im staying positive! lol
im freaking happy with my vanilla 2.2 skyraider.
Free wifi tether
Free Hotspot
Un-sensed.
Fast and crash free...
why would anybody be pine-ing for the ota?
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im freaking happy with my vanilla 2.2 skyraider.
Free wifi tether
Free Hotspot
Un-sensed.
Fast and crash free...
why would anybody be pine-ing for the ota?
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Im not a vanilla fan I tried it and to many issues plus I like my sense UI
Yea I'm using skyraider vanilla too. No crash or bug. Love it. I don't really care about the official 2.2 now.
ahhh....yet another thread for everyone to circle jerk to.
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ahhh....yet another thread for everyone to circle jerk to.
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And don't forget the reach around
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only reason im waiting for OTA is to see if HTC did ANYTHING about the battery issues, whether drain or charging, and hopefully someone from CM team can isolate the change and port it to CM6.
Edit: Oh, and as far as people getting the OTA, i've seen nothing from verizon the pertains to an update being sent out (the manual they release stating there will be an update and what changes will be made), like they do with all their OTA updates.
@mb2 You do realize that the only thing they can do about the battery is make it bigger? And since that will increase the size of the phone they wont do that. GL trying for them to do a significant increase in it. That is all hardware drain not software
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@mb2 You do realize that the only thing they can do about the battery is make it bigger? And since that will increase the size of the phone they wont do that. GL trying for them to do a significant increase in it. That is all hardware drain not software
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Actually, no, to a point. Previously it has been proven that the software/radio is causing some of the battery drain. Responses have been made from htc via email saying that they did have a problem with the current radio software that was constantly looking for a signal, but would be fixed with the next software update to the radio.
Battery 'bump' charging is part of the software as well. Not having the battery fully charge while the device is on, thus having to shut off the device once green, plug it in, goes red again, repeat process.
Also using undervolted kernels or a more stripped down version of a rom would improve battery life which involves software fully.
Yes getting a bigger battery will improve your battery life though obviously lol
Fixing the need to bump charge is literally the only reason I would consider upgrading. At this point, I'm inclined to believe that as a community, we've solidified our Froyo builds better than anything an updated stock release could bring to the table.
Froyo Confirmation from Verizon Rep
Over at Reddit, someone emailed Verizon Tech Support and got an email back confirming the Aug. 18th rumor:
reddit [dot] com/r/Android/comments/d267r/droid_incredible_ota_offically_coming_aug_18th/
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Over at Reddit, someone emailed Verizon Tech Support and got an email back confirming the Aug. 18th rumor:
reddit [dot] com/r/Android/comments/d267r/droid_incredible_ota_offically_coming_aug_18th/
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Here you go, http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/d267r/droid_incredible_ota_offically_coming_aug_18th/
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Supposedly he got this email yesterday (8/17) but I would think that the update would have been rolling out by now.
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@mb2 You do realize that the only thing they can do about the battery is make it bigger? And since that will increase the size of the phone they wont do that. GL trying for them to do a significant increase in it. That is all hardware drain not software
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Actually, no, to a point. Previously it has been proven that the software/radio is causing some of the battery drain. Responses have been made from htc via email saying that they did have a problem with the current radio software that was constantly looking for a signal, but would be fixed with the next software update to the radio.
Battery 'bump' charging is part of the software as well. Not having the battery fully charge while the device is on, thus having to shut off the device once green, plug it in, goes red again, repeat process.
Also using undervolted kernels or a more stripped down version of a rom would improve battery life which involves software fully.
Yes getting a bigger battery will improve your battery life though obviously lol
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yep. as proven, battery can't be charged to full unless by bump charging. otherwise, if you just pull the phone off the charger when it turns green, youre only getting 90% charge but battery will state its at 100% and then lose that 10% within minutes. as for the radio being the cause of battery drain, thats the first i'm hearing about this.
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Here you go, http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/d267r/droid_incredible_ota_offically_coming_aug_18th/
Supposedly he got this email yesterday (8/17) but I would think that the update would have been rolling out by now.
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It seems like he's pretty vague about the Incredible though. He states that 2.2 is rolling out the 18th which from reports about the Droid and the Evo or whatever it is rolling out but it doesn't seem like he specifically states that the Incredible will be getting 2.2 the 18th.
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It seems like he's pretty vague about the Incredible though. He states that 2.2 is rolling out the 18th which from reports about the Droid and the Evo or whatever it is rolling out but it doesn't seem like he specifically states that the Incredible will be getting 2.2 the 18th.
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Yeah the second paragraph is a bit beating around the bush like. Sort of vague
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It seems like he's pretty vague about the Incredible though. He states that 2.2 is rolling out the 18th which from reports about the Droid and the Evo or whatever it is rolling out but it doesn't seem like he specifically states that the Incredible will be getting 2.2 the 18th.
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Well, the email is from a verizon rep, isn't the incredible the only android phone on verizon expecting an update around this time?
Under 10 minutes ago this was posted to the VZW Support Twitter page.
"We currently do not have information for the Incredible update at this time."
then
Little over 30 minutes ago this was posted on the VZW Support Twitter page.
"The update is not being sent out for the Incredible at this time."
http://twitter.com/vzwsupport
Not that this means it's not happening, we all know VZW Support lacks in knowledge when it comes to stuff like this, but the fact NOBODY has reported it, and that twitter update tells me it isn't happening. =)
Has anyone gotten this yet? I am still waiting for my update anyone know of the news?
Nothing yet. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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My guess is Verizon is holding off on the Droid X update since they are currently releasing the Xoom OTA update which was planned in advance to coincide with Google I/O.
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Has anyone gotten this yet? I am still waiting for my update anyone know of the news?
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HTC Thunderbolt owners are receiving it as I write this. It is unlikely Verizon will push 2.3.3 to too many different phones simultaneously, to avoid any kind of tech support nightmare.
Edit: my bad...
It's the OTA 2.2.1 update that is currently going out to HTC TB, not the 2.3.3
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I got this lastnight Friday the 13th...fricken shaaaaweeeeet. There is a predownload on Droid life you can run...but you have to be stock 2.3.340
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Hrm, I checked my phone as I read this, per my status line I have 2.3.3.340.MB810.vzn.en.us
I dunno, I think I have had it for a while as well, as my phone doesn't seem any different like it has in the past with updates.
I have noticed after installing Yahoo messenger app that it hangs a lot, but I attribute that to the yahoo app, not the OS update.
I didn't get it either and yesterday afternoon my phone was slow as heck (as if something was going in) but I don't look any different.
2.3.340 is just the system version. The Android version is still 2.2.1. Gingerbread will change that to 2.3.
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From a Verizon press release this morning:
http://www.videogamingpros.com/moto...s-free-for-new-customers-and-upgrades/223322/
"The Motorola Droid X 2011 version runs on the Android 2.2 OS, but an upgrade to Android 2.3 has already hit India and will make its way around the world in the next few days."
So I guess it's on it's way....?
Where's my update dammit! LOL
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26th possibly.
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... "but an upgrade to Android 2.3 has already hit India and will make its way around the world in the next few days."
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Asian countries seem to have an edge in acquiring the latest cell phone technology, before the USA. And the best/latest phones always appear in those markets first.
Just a personal observation...
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Nate,
I think some manufacturers are treating Asian countries as beta tests for new phone models to make sure there aren't any big problems so they can have a better release in the "top tier" countries like USA/half of Europe. The countries they release these first in seem to have far, far, far fewer overall options, so if there's a problem there isn't much people can do, lol.
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Asian countries seem to have an edge in acquiring the latest cell phone technology, before the USA. And the best/latest phones always appear in those markets first.
Just a personal observation...
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Well when your the country of origin for a product, I would expect you to get info sooner. I don't think China has the lasted Harley Davidson bikes.
Will post asap when it happens
I have a father and brother in law that are unrooted and waiting for OTA. Will post when it happens.
The cellular service model is different in Asian countries too: phones tend to be more expensive, but service (per minute charge) tends to be cheaper. In the USA, phones are cheaper because they are subsidized by the manufacturer/carriers in return for being locked into a 2 year service contract. These types of contracts are illegal in many European countries.
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Are you guys talkign about the 2.33 release that is listed here ?
www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/Buzz/
Its on the top of the list. But the release date is Feb 2011.
And if yes, why don't you install from here ?. I guess you need root to do that with a PC
If not, then what's new in this release ?
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Are you guys talkign about the 2.33 release that is listed here ?
www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/Buzz/
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I've never seen this site before, how do you know that is for the Droid-X?
I'm asking because this is interesting as well as when I start from "catagories" I don't see Motorola or Droid-X listed there.
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android
Thanks.
the story is already on Droid life and there is even a picture build 596 to be sent on the 26 for Droid x
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I've been holding off on updating for a while now. I keep telling myself that the official OTA is around the corner, and I won't need to update again for a while (I hate constantly updating my phone).
It's a shame that this phone will probably never see ICS (unless they can hack it off the DX2), but if it's not out by the 26th as stated on Droid-Life, then I'm going the leaked route.
I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?
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I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?
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I just answered a post in another thread about this .... people are out of their effin minds especially when the software is out there already and has been for a while... Hey there a million what do I do posts and people getting flamed and the sensitive ones going stop doing that... Hey you stupid enough to update your phone OTA f-it you deserve what you get. forum is here to educated and help and if you dont want to use that help then you get what you deserve... Dont mean to be a **** but I guess for some you will feel that I am oh well
A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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I didn't get a choice, my phone died after flashing the new radio. When i got my replaced it had the latest ota already installed. Also went from Hardware 003 to 004. Guess I now have to give up flashing cold turkey
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A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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Within the same day a rooted version was out.
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Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.
Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.
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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.
wgallt said:
Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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When you do that, you run that chance of an exploit never being found. That may very well be the case if you have S-ON.
The dissapointment in the leaked OTA wasn't enough to dissuade people i guess.
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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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I agree fully with this statement but like I said the leaked version has been out for like a month already... no guarantees they can fix the new bootloader... I know better though lol
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Impatience
I unrooted because there was no reason for me to be rooted. The only benefit of rooting for me was to have the free wifi tethering.
When my wife did the latest OTA update she was getting 4g in places I didn't get it. Her phone was also downloading on 4g at 10 megs down using the speedtest.net app. With multiple roms I have never gotten above 2 megs down, when I unrooted and went stock I was getting faster and better 4g.
Every Rom I installed was buggy, So if I am going to deal with roms that don't work or take away features or burn your eyes in the dark I would rather just deal with the stock sprint phone. I am also fortunate enough to be able to afford the hotspot service from sprint so I would rather pay for reliable fast service.
These are the reasons I unrooted. I understand that everyone has their own reasons for what they do with their devices and I respect them please respect mine. I am just answering the question that was asked in this post.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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Well, people HAVE missed it, and yes, they SHOULD know better. However, some need more help than others.
I was tempted but I knew someone that was stock and I let him go first. I also knew everyone would be posting here. I now run the rooted Rom put out the same day the ota was released. Thank god I held on to my senses and waited for it.
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I'm not unrooting anytime soon. Couple of reasons.
1.The big one is I'm not a huge fan of Sense.
2.All the bloatware that comes on the stock rom that slows it down, and takes up room.
3.For my battery!!!!
unrooted
Unrooted, tried out stock Gingerbread, rooted it again with rooting hormones.
It's not that "hard"...
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I just received my new Galaxy Note from Amazon.de. Tried to update it with Kies to ICS it wasn't working ! Then I checked and it came pre-installed with ICS ! YAY ! I thought I'd post in case any of the devs were interested if it was different in any way/if the black crush was still evident.
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I just received my new Galaxy Note from Amazon.de. Tried to update it with Kies to ICS it wasn't working ! Then I checked and it came pre-installed with ICS ! YAY ! I thought I'd post in case any of the devs were interested if it was different in any way/if the black crush was still evident.
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Please read very important. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633938
it's xxLPY dated May 4th
Read:
***WARNING!!! PLEASE READ! ICS Kernels and Recovery
Any question feel free to PM me!
By the way LPY is a leaked kernel, NOT official!
I could've swore LPY was the official German release... [I got mine OTA a few weeks ago]
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I could've swore LPY was the official German release... [I got mine OTA a few weeks ago]
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Yes it is.. my bad!
I was surprised to found it pre.installed but I bought it from Amazon.de so it can only be stock (one would hope).
Highly doubt it comes preinstalled with ICS! I have received mine from UK (see sign) and it came with gingerbread!
Got my first motherboard it was gingerbread KK1 in both cases!
And now that i'm getting the second motherboard in Samsung Service Center they told me i will get a motherboard with gingerbread again!
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Highly doubt it comes preinstalled with ICS! I have received mine from UK (see sign) and it came with gingerbread!
Got my first motherboard it was gingerbread KK1 in both cases!
And now that i'm getting the second motherboard in Samsung Service Center they told me i will get a motherboard with gingerbread again!
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I assure meu amigo that this came pre.installed from Amazon.de "sold by amazon" and not a partner and was pre-installed with 4.03 ICS.
Other details are model number gt-N7000, Baseband N7000XXLPT Kernel version 3.0.15-N7000XXLPY-CL474507 se [email protected]#3 smp preempt Fri May 4 04:49:06 KST 2012
Build number
IML74K.XXLPY
Well but i advice you to read the topic that was posted on my 3rd post on this thread! ICS has some ****ty bug!
At least to be bug free install CF root 5.6
If he isn't rooted and doesn't wipe, he should be fine though.
andreww88 said:
If he isn't rooted and doesn't wipe, he should be fine though.
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Im rooted and runnung LPY and ive returned to factory settings once. Maybe im lucky. But in theory samsung will find a solution and release a version of ICS that doesnt risk bricking?
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Well but i advice you to read the topic that was posted on my 3rd post on this thread! ICS has some ****ty bug!
At least to be bug free install CF root 5.6
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Not quite true. There is an issue with SOME existing GSN units, but not all. There is a best effort utility somewhere on these forums that can give an indication which devices are, or might be affected by flawed eMMc software/hardware. Its not totaly conclusive, but its a good indicator. The fact that Samsung have pre-loaded ICS is good news, and they have either ensured the hardware is 100% or they have an updated version of ICS, or done both. I'm wondering if the OP could post which version of ICS they have ie 4.0.3 or 4.0.4 or something else. The OP have bought this brand new from Amazon.de and can expect to be able to use the device fully, as per the instruction manual without fear, including factory re-sets. If the device croaks, its RTM to Amazon for replacement or refund.
I'm wondering if the OP solarboy, could let us all know how well the GPS runs with google maps and navigation (should be near perfect with no screen flicker/jumping) and would he be prepared to run the Check brick bug App. Post the results. Its a simple app that reads hardware detail and displays the result, does nothing else, and its easy to remove afterwards.
Personally, I think this is a positive move. I did hear on the grapevine that Amazon are getting slightly pissed with the high number of returns its getting with the GSN, maybe Samsung have finally woken up. I do hope so.
Hi im at work atm but ive already posted in this thread the full specs. Turn by turn works great so far and i didnt notice flickering. Ill try to test at lunchtime...
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That's good they started to ship with ICS.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from the fact it says 'yes' to the brick question, the rest of the info does point to the problematic eMMc. So, what to do. Firstly, there is a factory re-set option in the settings menu, the user manual does not stipulate how many times you can re-set. But we already know that people have done a few re-sets and got a brick, others like me, have done several factory re-sets without problem (apart from other issues which I have posted elsewhere, but nothing to do with re-sets), and yet we have all got the brick chip. So, for a new owner, you can either run the device as is and wait for a software fix from Samsung, which will have to be verified by developers on these forums, because Samsung inexplicably does not publish detailed update logs, or simply say to Samsung, "I do not want this product, I would like my money back". In the EU that is a consumer right within errrr, 7 or 14 days, not sure check, but you can do that. Amazon have helpful details on that. The next option would be to root you device, all consumer rights going out the window the moment you do that, and flash something like CM9. If you choose that route, please do lots of reading on how that is done with ICS already present. In fact I cant remember seeing anyone flashing CM9 to a device with ICS pre-installed, I'm guessing it shouldn't make any difference.
Elsewhere on these forums, the Indian GSNs have been receiving ICS updates, or at least some of them have. This 'might' be the fix that guys have been waiting for, but as previously mentioned, Samsung do not state exactly what their updates actually do.
Its a sorry state of affairs that all we have to rely on is guess work, the work of independent developers, and the sad stories of guys who now have bricks. Samsung could have made it soooo simple, but no.
Edit: Solarboy, thanks for posting the screen shot.
Not the happiest of posts, but I hope it gives a full picture, and helps in some way.
Well for now I,m going to leave "as is"; after Winmo6.5 this is heaven. I'm sure I'll at least root at some point, I was posting so as to let you all know.. I'm still exploring androidland!
Indeed. Anyway, you are covered with a warranty up to the point of rooting, and don't forget there are millions of these handsets out there with satisfied users. Dont get lost in AndroindLand and enjoy the 'Note
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Not quite true. There is an issue with SOME existing GSN units, but not all. There is a best effort utility somewhere on these forums that can give an indication which devices are, or might be affected by flawed eMMc software/hardware. Its not totaly conclusive, but its a good indicator. The fact that Samsung have pre-loaded ICS is good news, and they have either ensured the hardware is 100% or they have an updated version of ICS, or done both. I'm wondering if the OP could post which version of ICS they have ie 4.0.3 or 4.0.4 or something else. The OP have bought this brand new from Amazon.de and can expect to be able to use the device fully, as per the instruction manual without fear, including factory re-sets. If the device croaks, its RTM to Amazon for replacement or refund.
I'm wondering if the OP solarboy, could let us all know how well the GPS runs with google maps and navigation (should be near perfect with no screen flicker/jumping) and would he be prepared to run the Check brick bug App. Post the results. Its a simple app that reads hardware detail and displays the result, does nothing else, and its easy to remove afterwards.
Personally, I think this is a positive move. I did hear on the grapevine that Amazon are getting slightly pissed with the high number of returns its getting with the GSN, maybe Samsung have finally woken up. I do hope so.
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Thanks for your reply mate! Actually didn't thought of that.. it actually can mean good news
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Indeed. Anyway, you are covered with a warranty up to the point of rooting, and don't forget there are millions of these handsets out there with satisfied users. Dont get lost in AndroindLand and enjoy the 'Note
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How i support this sentence! Even thought i got my Note bricked 2 times in a row.. i won't change to any other phone in the market currently because i really love my Note
Edit:
you annoying bastards did it
4.4.4 are live on the site as usual.
go download em https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
edit 2:
they are still missing the VRZ. but i think that is just red tape (red, get it?) from VRZ.
doesn't hurt to continue to bug them
edit 3:
sad that we had to annoy each other but it's finally complete. maybe next time don't include a annoy.timer setting with such lower timer in your OTA app :/ (it really has that name). or make it not jump in front of gps and calls... well i should learn not to use stock roms...
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hi, if you also have a developer edition phone, and are pissed that morola only provides 4.4.2 and 4.2.2 images, making it impossible to restore a dev device back to stock for any reason, whithout a complex (and probably dev edition warranty voiding?) downgrade procedure, please, do bug them and ask for it.
the steps are:
1. open a chat (or call 1-800-734-5870 ) at https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/mcp/service/
2. mention that you have a developer device
3. say that the page at https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images is impacting your device usage
3.b optional. you can mention the fact that being on stock 4.4.3 and being unable to update, you will get the 4.4.4 update warning every couple minutes, even on top of the GPS while you are driving!
4. mention that the page reads "to help owners return to the latest Motorola software." on the very first paragraph.
5. recall them that the latest motorola software is 4.4.4 or at least 4.4.3
do not give up until they say "i'm escaling this to L2." whatever that means
thank you! Only with lots of people bugging them they will do something about it.
Edit:
make noise on social networks!
FB: to do
G+: https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
tweet: to do
tumblr: to do
reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/2jxvdo/please_do_your_part_to_get_official_444_and_443/
(comment with the links to the above and i will update here)
Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.
SamuriHL said:
Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.
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thanks for trying man! for me it was pretty smooth.
I did mention that i was on stock 4.4.3, installed on motorola themselves on my phone. I only had a custom recovery, because, well, that is the reason i got a developer phone. The rep never asked me if i rooted or not. because it is irrelevant as you know and mentioned above.
i'd try again later on. maybe you get a rep with a clue. either way, thanks again for trying.
We need volume! c'mon folks.
Done deal!
Ooof.. hopefully Moto will realize that they need to do this as we'll need that to update to 5.0 if released!
Well, let's see if this helps....
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Well, let's see if this helps....
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good idea. i'm not much on social networks, but
can you give me a proper link? i will pass it around at school and work email lists to get people to bump this.
Actually, i can update the top post with tweets, FB, G+ links that everyone can repost/like/+1 etc.
sadly, i'm on none of those networks
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/ZYZpw33AoRA
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it says, this post cannot be found:
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Sorry, that one was semi private. This one should work.....
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
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livinginkaos said:
Sorry, that one was semi private. This one should work.....
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
sent from my G3
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thanks! added! and +1ed
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thanks! added! and +1ed
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I plus one your post but was unable to leave a comment.
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SamuriHL said:
Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.
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Looks like when google sold Moto they lost their responsibility for keeping the devices up to date with factory images. Luckily and thanks to you SamuriHL I have this from you to pull my stock 4.4.4 images for my xt1060 dev edition. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
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I plus one your post but was unable to leave a comment.
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Looks like when google sold Moto they lost their responsibility for keeping the devices up to date with factory images. Luckily and thanks to you SamuriHL I have this from you to pull my stock 4.4.4 images for my xt1060 dev edition. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
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Yea, unfortunately that doesn't help us GSM DE users. I'm incredibly frustrated. Well, it just strengthens my resolve to get a Nexus 6. At least with that I know the images will be posted by Google in a very reasonable timeframe. For my S4 GPE I have to make them myself which is equally frustrating. On the X GSM DE we may have to get to a point of a hybrid "FXZ" where we fastboot some partitions, reboot into custom recovery, and then flash a pulled system image. That just seems really wrong when it wouldn't take Moto very much to host the damn images for us.
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Yea, unfortunately that doesn't help us GSM DE users. I'm incredibly frustrated. Well, it just strengthens my resolve to get a Nexus 6. At least with that I know the images will be posted by Google in a very reasonable timeframe. For my S4 GPE I have to make them myself which is equally frustrating. On the X GSM DE we may have to get to a point of a hybrid "FXZ" where we fastboot some partitions, reboot into custom recovery, and then flash a pulled system image. That just seems really wrong when it wouldn't take Moto very much to host the damn images for us.
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Completely agree. That is one good thing about the nexus. You can count on those image files being released in a timely matter. Thanks again though for your work. It gave me the stock images I needed for my Dev edition. Very much appreciated! As well as you old house of bionic I used on my wife's old bionic lol
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Completely agree. That is one good thing about the nexus. You can count on those image files being released in a timely matter. Thanks again though for your work. It gave me the stock images I needed for my Dev edition. Very much appreciated! As well as you old house of bionic I used on my wife's old bionic lol
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The images I got came from stras. I just post them as he gives them to me. He's awesome. Also, not to get off topic, but just so you're aware my House of Moto and RSD Flasher tools will work for your X DE and that FXZ.
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The images I got came from stras. I just post them as he gives them to me. He's awesome. Also, not to get off topic, but just so you're aware my House of Moto and RSD Flasher tools will work for your X DE and that FXZ.
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Thanks for your time and tools. However, once I learned how to manually flash image files I left the toolkits alone. But if I was to use a tool I would trust yours.
Nothing has changed. I have it on good authority that this amounts to a bureaucratic oversight and will be taken care of ASAP.
All the right people are aware of the issue and working to address it.
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Nothing has changed. I have it on good authority that this amounts to a bureaucratic oversight and will be taken care of ASAP.
All the right people are aware of the issue and working to address it.
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That's actually really good to hear. Thanks for the info!
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That's actually really good to hear. Thanks for the info!
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No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!
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No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!
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That is truly excellent news. I was very concerned since they only have 4.4.2 up there and 4.4.3 has been out for months now. Yes we've been able to get leaks until recently but we should be able to get them officially and the sbf site hasn't been updated since early September.
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Not sure why you guys are praising nexus. My experience with N1 was awfull. stuck on 2.3 forever. zero support. hardware problems that should have been recalled completely ignored and dismissed by google and htc... well, i think i will have my opnion change when N4 gets 5.0 (which is it capable on hardware)
also, you are all ignoring the fact that the next nexus will be churned out by motorola. and will be a even bigger phablet than motoX2.
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No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!
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nice! (assuming that policy was to provide more than two images...) will continue to bug them daily. so you can tell your friend to tell the underling to ask for a raise! management will surely say yes