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Hi guys,
As you can tell by my username, I am completely new to Android, and naturally to hacking it! Currently I have a stock hero, and and contemplating rooting and flashing it, although I'm having some reservations. While this is my first post, I have been lurking and reading the forums for 2 or 3 weeks now since Damage got a hold of the first Sprint leak. While the whole process looks pretty simple, I have seen how random many of the problems, such as the audio issue are. Some people seem to have no problems, while others have a s#!tstorm of them.
I am not normally one to fix things that aren't broken, and (knock on wood) I haven't really had any of the issues others with stock phones have had. I have never once had a problem with sending or receiving MMS, and most of the lag and quirkiness I am able to live with. On the flip side of that coin, I have read up on Google's Android dev pages all of the changes and enhancements made in 1.6 and 2.0, and am itching to get them on my phone. Like a lot of other people, I am eagerly awaiting Sprint's official release, but am not holding much hope that it will be here this month.
In any event, since I registered I figured I would just say "Hi," while I decide what to do (becoming impatient waiting for the official) and hope that the novel I just wrote hasn't bored anyone to death
Eric

noobmodder said:
Hi guys,
As you can tell by my username, I am completely new to Android, and naturally to hacking it! Currently I have a stock hero, and and contemplating rooting and flashing it, although I'm having some reservations. While this is my first post, I have been lurking and reading the forums for 2 or 3 weeks now since Damage got a hold of the first Sprint leak. While the whole process looks pretty simple, I have seen how random many of the problems, such as the audio issue are. Some people seem to have no problems, while others have a s#!tstorm of them.
I am not normally one to fix things that aren't broken, and (knock on wood) I haven't really had any of the issues others with stock phones have had. I have never once had a problem with sending or receiving MMS, and most of the lag and quirkiness I am able to live with. On the flip side of that coin, I have read up on Google's Android dev pages all of the changes and enhancements made in 1.6 and 2.0, and am itching to get them on my phone. Like a lot of other people, I am eagerly awaiting Sprint's official release, but am not holding much hope that it will be here this month.
In any event, since I registered I figured I would just say "Hi," while I decide what to do (becoming impatient waiting for the official) and hope that the novel I just wrote hasn't bored anyone to death
Eric
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Hi there
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I'm just kidding. Welcome, welcome. If you need help, there are plenty of people here knowledgeable enough to help you in anyway. Just make sure you use the SEARCH button thoroughly!
Otherwise, cya around.

welcome in!
welcome aboard! its really not hard to root and try new roms. i would recommend rooting and backing up then trying a stable 1.5 rom like fresh, do a nandroid back up of it then dive into the 2.1 roms. you can always go back to a nandroid back up if you ave issues. read as much as you can first.
i flashed over to the newest fresh with pri=170_03 and prl=60663 and havent had any issues. nothing works quite perfectly (very, very minor issues) but then again stock doesnt either (as you have noticed and commented on).
dip your toes in and have a go. it is worth it. the devs here have done a fantastic job.
cheers,
ryan

Frankly, I see no harm in at least TRYING a custom 2.1 ROM out, since during the process of initially rooting, you are told to do a "nandroid" backup. With that backup, you can go back to the stock ROM should you have unbearable problems with a custom one. (or if you just don't like them..)
It should be noted that when the OFFICIAL 2.1 drops, theres a very good chance that they will have patched the root exploit, leaving you with the stock sprint rom (and bloatware)
My suggestion is this.. Test out a few of the custom roms.. Fresh 2.0d and Damagecontrol 2.06 are great places to start.. If you don't like them, go back to your 1.5 stock or a 1.5 custom rom, and wait for the official 2.1 and a custom rom based off of that..
Just my two cents.

When did this forum become "xda-developers-personals.com"?

Welcome Noobmodder, you will come to enjoy the excellent resources this forum has to offer. Beware though, it could be detrimental to your personal relationships as flashing and modding can be as addictive as drinking and gambling! lol

Speaking of, I've been meaning to say this to you troy..
I don't know what Troy you are speaking of, but my fiance is from Troy, Tn.. So you probably know each other if that's what your troy means... Because from all that I've seen, there's not too many people out that way..lol..

Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!

Welcome to the party!!
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Speaking of, I've been meaning to say this to you troy..
I don't know what Troy you are speaking of, but my fiance is from Troy, Tn.. So you probably know each other if that's what your troy means... Because from all that I've seen, there's not too many people out that way..lol..
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Troy is actually my first name and I live in Knoxville, TN (eastern state). I believe, Troy is near UT Martin if I recall correctly (west TN). Nice area.

noobmodder said:
Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!
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Basically, once you have a recovery image flashed, and a nandroid of your stock rom, there really isn't much to worry about (as far as a brick goes)
Flash away!

Let us know if you need any help. If you have been lurking for a couple of weeks you probably won't have any issues rooting and flashing, but just the same let us know if you do run into any problems.
If you have not rooted yet I recommend using Fresh's kitchen.
Here's the link.
http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-pre-kitchen-02

noobmodder said:
Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!
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Modding is not a spectator sport. You need to decide if you want to get your hands dirty because staying on the bleachers you won't see much
Just make sure you keep reading everything you can find on this forum until you feel comfortable giving it a shot. If there's something you don't understand or something that's bothering you then hold off. It's better to approach modding your phone with full confidence and some knowledge under your belt then find yourself on your knees begging for mercy from Sprint's local customer service czar.

Ok guys!
Just rooted and flashed DC 2.06 and I have a question. Does this version of DC still need the CDMA Auto PRL setting changed like in the past?

noobmodder said:
Ok guys!
Just rooted and flashed DC 2.06 and I have a question. Does this version of DC still need the CDMA Auto PRL setting changed like in the past?
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I've been monitoring this for a while, and with both Flipz's .03 radio and his .10 radio, I haven't needed to change it. Of course, this is with mulitple restarts thanks to the audio bug.

Disregard this post

It's pretty hard to brick your phone, unless you flash a radio.img incorrectly. Like I said, there's plenty of people that are experienced enough with Android to help you out. Not to mention, almost any errors you encounter will mostly already be documented and have solutions.

New build coming? DB01?

Anyone else heard about this? Supposedly a less buggy Froyo. I'll post the change info shortly.
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do you mean EB01? this is already being discussed, changelog is here: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/07/samsung-fascinate-android-2-2-eb01-gallery/
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Here is the changelog:
1. Updated to support the Google Froyo 2.2 software
2. Added support for SMS Delivery acknowledgement
3. Addressed an issue seen in some cases were users would lose their data connection and have to either power cycle or turn on and off airplane mode to recover
4. A UI change was made to correct the spelling of “Dialled Calls” in the dialer app.
5. Addressed an issue where the speaker button was not working when connected to a Bluetooth device.
6. A software change was made to enhance the reliability of the syncing of IMAP and POP 3 e-mails accounts
7. You can now move messages between folders in the exchange mail client
8. Addressed an issue found when connected to the car dock and you turn off the back light the connection defaults to the speakerphone when you turn the back light back on
9. Addressed a “force close” error message seen when you select “delete all” in your sent or trash folders in your exchange e-mail account
10. You can now save a contact you found using a Global Address Look up.
11. Addressed an issue found when using Bing Voice search causing the device to give the error message “thinking” and “make sure you are connected to a network and try again”.
12. When using the Voice Command application it will not display duplicate names and numbers for the same contact that was found from multiple sources.
13. Addressed an issue when using the Desktop dock which in some cases was causing the idle screen image to appear to be burned into the screen
14. The color scheme in the calendar has been changed
15. Enhancements were made to improve the update consistency of the feeds and widgets
16. Protected Media licenses are now stored on the memory card so if the device is factory reset these protected content licenses will not be lost
17. The Swype application will no longer capitalize letters inappropriately

Ok, wasn't able to copy and paste from within app. Anyways, here's the link to the article:
Samsung Fascinate Build EB01 Nearing - A Less Buggy Froyo http://phandroid.com/?p=40084
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the fascinate doesn't run Froyo yet. Are you referring to the program that resembles Froyo aka DL30 leak...yeah, that's not officially froyo, EB01 is Froyo.

jenisiz said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the fascinate doesn't run Froyo yet. Are you referring to the program that resembles Froyo aka DL30 leak...yeah, that's not officially froyo, EB01 is Froyo.
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Neither are official. Why are you talking in nonsensical riddles?
EB01 also will NOT be the final version, aka, the 'official' Froyo.

Lol, agreed. I enjoyed the pics in the other article. I see they have a modem for this one too to match.
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jenisiz said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the fascinate doesn't run Froyo yet. Are you referring to the program that resembles Froyo aka DL30 leak...yeah, that's not officially froyo, EB01 is Froyo.
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For not being Froyoconfused, it does a damn good job of "resembling" it

adrynalyne said:
Neither are official. Why are you talking in nonsensical riddles?
EB01 also will NOT be the final version, aka, the 'official' Froyo.
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Who said anything about "final" bud? I didn't...I said "official" as in the first version that will be released to those who prefer ota updates...or the first version that will be pushed out that is safe to install on your phone without voiding warranty...or the first...you get the point.

imnuts said:
For not being Froyoconfused, it does a damn good job of "resembling" it
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And ubuntu can look just like windows/mac....but it's not
New modem, new build, official froyo. Not something made to resemble froyo on an old modem. Official is official.

jenisiz said:
And ubuntu can look just like windows/mac....but it's not
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Maybe so, but there is no way you could install Windows or Mac applications on Ubuntu and have them run properly. If it's not Froyo, then why are Froyo only apps (Chrome2Phone, Flash, etc) working? And I'm assuming you haven't rooted your phone or flashed any custom ROMs/kernels since you're so worried about you warranty...

Contradict much? if it aint final, it aint official.
I don't care if there is a modem or not.
It just so happens, we protect our sources, and we did not get a modem with DL30.
That makes it just as official as EB01.

I've been enjoying DL30 so far. Yes it has some issues, but it makes me feel good that its improving with all the devs hard work on here. I tried kaoscinate briefly, and love the bliss theme for it, but couldn't handle some of the missing pieces. Excited to see official and unofficial builds out there, as it helps me get the phone I bought (in my mind at the time). Just happy to see more options than on my previous BB Storm 1. Keep up the excellent work.
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imnuts said:
Maybe so, but there is no way you could install Windows or Mac applications on Ubuntu and have them run properly. If it's not Froyo, then why are Froyo only apps (Chrome2Phone, Flash, etc) working? And I'm assuming you haven't rooted your phone or flashed any custom ROMs/kernels since you're so worried about you warranty...
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Actually, I dual boot my linux box with Windows 7 so I can run my music making software.
And alas, I have cricket on my fascinate for private use and sprint epic for traveling. My Fascinate has been flashed with full talk and text by your's truly before there was any guides...and it was rooted and customized from the first drop. Since I don't have a warranty, who cares.
And per adrynalyne, I think you may be confused on what I deem official. I deem something official when you can flash your phone back to stock and the carrier sends out an OTA update and it takes. So if my research serves fruitful, DL30 will not get pushed OTA but EB01 will therefore making DL30 unofficial and EB01 official. If you need a further break down, I'd be glad to have my son draw you a schematic with crayons?

EB01 will not be pushed.
Your research proves to be an epic FAIL.
As for your son with his crayons...maybe Samsung hired him for eb01?
Here is a screenshot of your 'official' eb01.
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bswright said:
I've been enjoying DL30 so far. Yes it has some issues, but it makes me feel good that its improving with all the devs hard work on here. I tried kaoscinate briefly, and love the bliss theme for it, but couldn't handle some of the missing pieces. Excited to see official and unofficial builds out there, as it helps me get the phone I bought (in my mind at the time). Just happy to see more options than on my previous BB Storm 1. Keep up the excellent work.
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Couldn't agree more, glad to see some progress being made. Just sad to think that XDA developers will probably optimize the hell out of this before there is even an OTA push...

adrynalyne said:
EB01 will not be pushed.
Your research proves to be an epic FAIL.
As for your son with his crayons...maybe Samsung hired him for eb01?
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If it will not be pushed...then I have been schooled
Naw...he spits the ABC's in his sleep...he's to smart for that big of a flop lol
Edit: Curious how many ppl would catch that though...

jenisiz said:
Actually, I dual boot my linux box with Windows 7 so I can run my music making software.
And alas, I have cricket on my fascinate for private use and sprint epic for traveling. My Fascinate has been flashed with full talk and text by your's truly before there was any guides...and it was rooted and customized from the first drop. Since I don't have a warranty, who cares.
And per adrynalyne, I think you may be confused on what I deem official. I deem something official when you can flash your phone back to stock and the carrier sends out an OTA update and it takes. So if my research serves fruitful, DL30 will not get pushed OTA but EB01 will therefore making DL30 unofficial and EB01 official. If you need a further break down, I'd be glad to have my son draw you a schematic with crayons?
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::Gets popcorn ready:: This is gonna be a good show!

jenisiz said:
If it will not be pushed...then I have been schooled
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Not only schooled, but you received an F, for FAIL.

jenisiz said:
And per adrynalyne, I think you may be confused on what I deem official. I deem something official when you can flash your phone back to stock and the carrier sends out an OTA update and it takes.
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1. That is the dumbest logic I've ever heard. If I wanted, I could flash back to DL09 right now and get EA28. Also, that would make everything we have for the Fascinate official as you can flash back to a stock image from any of them and get OTA updates.
jenisiz said:
So if my research serves fruitful, DL30 will not get pushed OTA but EB01 will therefore making DL30 unofficial and EB01 official. If you need a further break down, I'd be glad to have my son draw you a schematic with crayons?
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2. Does that mean that DJ05 was official before we knew about DL09?
3. Do you have this key on your keyboard? Your posts seem to suggest that you do.

adrynalyne said:
Not only schooled, but you received an F, for FAIL.
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What can I do to turn that F into a Fantastic?

[Q] [q] why are people unrooting??

I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?

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shortydoggg said:
I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?
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I just answered a post in another thread about this .... people are out of their effin minds especially when the software is out there already and has been for a while... Hey there a million what do I do posts and people getting flamed and the sensitive ones going stop doing that... Hey you stupid enough to update your phone OTA f-it you deserve what you get. forum is here to educated and help and if you dont want to use that help then you get what you deserve... Dont mean to be a **** but I guess for some you will feel that I am oh well

A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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I didn't get a choice, my phone died after flashing the new radio. When i got my replaced it had the latest ota already installed. Also went from Hardware 003 to 004. Guess I now have to give up flashing cold turkey

wgallt said:
A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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Within the same day a rooted version was out.
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Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.

Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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Award Tour said:
Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.
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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.

wgallt said:
Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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When you do that, you run that chance of an exploit never being found. That may very well be the case if you have S-ON.

The dissapointment in the leaked OTA wasn't enough to dissuade people i guess.

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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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I agree fully with this statement but like I said the leaked version has been out for like a month already... no guarantees they can fix the new bootloader... I know better though lol
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Impatience

I unrooted because there was no reason for me to be rooted. The only benefit of rooting for me was to have the free wifi tethering.
When my wife did the latest OTA update she was getting 4g in places I didn't get it. Her phone was also downloading on 4g at 10 megs down using the speedtest.net app. With multiple roms I have never gotten above 2 megs down, when I unrooted and went stock I was getting faster and better 4g.
Every Rom I installed was buggy, So if I am going to deal with roms that don't work or take away features or burn your eyes in the dark I would rather just deal with the stock sprint phone. I am also fortunate enough to be able to afford the hotspot service from sprint so I would rather pay for reliable fast service.
These are the reasons I unrooted. I understand that everyone has their own reasons for what they do with their devices and I respect them please respect mine. I am just answering the question that was asked in this post.

novanosis85 said:
If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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Well, people HAVE missed it, and yes, they SHOULD know better. However, some need more help than others.

I was tempted but I knew someone that was stock and I let him go first. I also knew everyone would be posting here. I now run the rooted Rom put out the same day the ota was released. Thank god I held on to my senses and waited for it.
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I'm not unrooting anytime soon. Couple of reasons.
1.The big one is I'm not a huge fan of Sense.
2.All the bloatware that comes on the stock rom that slows it down, and takes up room.
3.For my battery!!!!

unrooted
Unrooted, tried out stock Gingerbread, rooted it again with rooting hormones.
It's not that "hard"...

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My New Galaxy Note, pre-installed with ICS

I just received my new Galaxy Note from Amazon.de. Tried to update it with Kies to ICS it wasn't working ! Then I checked and it came pre-installed with ICS ! YAY ! I thought I'd post in case any of the devs were interested if it was different in any way/if the black crush was still evident.

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I just received my new Galaxy Note from Amazon.de. Tried to update it with Kies to ICS it wasn't working ! Then I checked and it came pre-installed with ICS ! YAY ! I thought I'd post in case any of the devs were interested if it was different in any way/if the black crush was still evident.
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Please read very important. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633938

it's xxLPY dated May 4th

Read:
***WARNING!!! PLEASE READ! ICS Kernels and Recovery
Any question feel free to PM me!
By the way LPY is a leaked kernel, NOT official!

I could've swore LPY was the official German release... [I got mine OTA a few weeks ago]
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~ L said:
I could've swore LPY was the official German release... [I got mine OTA a few weeks ago]
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Yes it is.. my bad!

I was surprised to found it pre.installed but I bought it from Amazon.de so it can only be stock (one would hope).

Highly doubt it comes preinstalled with ICS! I have received mine from UK (see sign) and it came with gingerbread!
Got my first motherboard it was gingerbread KK1 in both cases!
And now that i'm getting the second motherboard in Samsung Service Center they told me i will get a motherboard with gingerbread again!

zylor said:
Highly doubt it comes preinstalled with ICS! I have received mine from UK (see sign) and it came with gingerbread!
Got my first motherboard it was gingerbread KK1 in both cases!
And now that i'm getting the second motherboard in Samsung Service Center they told me i will get a motherboard with gingerbread again!
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I assure meu amigo that this came pre.installed from Amazon.de "sold by amazon" and not a partner and was pre-installed with 4.03 ICS.
Other details are model number gt-N7000, Baseband N7000XXLPT Kernel version 3.0.15-N7000XXLPY-CL474507 se [email protected]#3 smp preempt Fri May 4 04:49:06 KST 2012
Build number
IML74K.XXLPY

Well but i advice you to read the topic that was posted on my 3rd post on this thread! ICS has some ****ty bug!
At least to be bug free install CF root 5.6

If he isn't rooted and doesn't wipe, he should be fine though.

andreww88 said:
If he isn't rooted and doesn't wipe, he should be fine though.
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Im rooted and runnung LPY and ive returned to factory settings once. Maybe im lucky. But in theory samsung will find a solution and release a version of ICS that doesnt risk bricking?
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zylor said:
Well but i advice you to read the topic that was posted on my 3rd post on this thread! ICS has some ****ty bug!
At least to be bug free install CF root 5.6
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Not quite true. There is an issue with SOME existing GSN units, but not all. There is a best effort utility somewhere on these forums that can give an indication which devices are, or might be affected by flawed eMMc software/hardware. Its not totaly conclusive, but its a good indicator. The fact that Samsung have pre-loaded ICS is good news, and they have either ensured the hardware is 100% or they have an updated version of ICS, or done both. I'm wondering if the OP could post which version of ICS they have ie 4.0.3 or 4.0.4 or something else. The OP have bought this brand new from Amazon.de and can expect to be able to use the device fully, as per the instruction manual without fear, including factory re-sets. If the device croaks, its RTM to Amazon for replacement or refund.
I'm wondering if the OP solarboy, could let us all know how well the GPS runs with google maps and navigation (should be near perfect with no screen flicker/jumping) and would he be prepared to run the Check brick bug App. Post the results. Its a simple app that reads hardware detail and displays the result, does nothing else, and its easy to remove afterwards.
Personally, I think this is a positive move. I did hear on the grapevine that Amazon are getting slightly pissed with the high number of returns its getting with the GSN, maybe Samsung have finally woken up. I do hope so.

Hi im at work atm but ive already posted in this thread the full specs. Turn by turn works great so far and i didnt notice flickering. Ill try to test at lunchtime...
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That's good they started to ship with ICS.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from the fact it says 'yes' to the brick question, the rest of the info does point to the problematic eMMc. So, what to do. Firstly, there is a factory re-set option in the settings menu, the user manual does not stipulate how many times you can re-set. But we already know that people have done a few re-sets and got a brick, others like me, have done several factory re-sets without problem (apart from other issues which I have posted elsewhere, but nothing to do with re-sets), and yet we have all got the brick chip. So, for a new owner, you can either run the device as is and wait for a software fix from Samsung, which will have to be verified by developers on these forums, because Samsung inexplicably does not publish detailed update logs, or simply say to Samsung, "I do not want this product, I would like my money back". In the EU that is a consumer right within errrr, 7 or 14 days, not sure check, but you can do that. Amazon have helpful details on that. The next option would be to root you device, all consumer rights going out the window the moment you do that, and flash something like CM9. If you choose that route, please do lots of reading on how that is done with ICS already present. In fact I cant remember seeing anyone flashing CM9 to a device with ICS pre-installed, I'm guessing it shouldn't make any difference.
Elsewhere on these forums, the Indian GSNs have been receiving ICS updates, or at least some of them have. This 'might' be the fix that guys have been waiting for, but as previously mentioned, Samsung do not state exactly what their updates actually do.
Its a sorry state of affairs that all we have to rely on is guess work, the work of independent developers, and the sad stories of guys who now have bricks. Samsung could have made it soooo simple, but no.
Edit: Solarboy, thanks for posting the screen shot.
Not the happiest of posts, but I hope it gives a full picture, and helps in some way.

Well for now I,m going to leave "as is"; after Winmo6.5 this is heaven. I'm sure I'll at least root at some point, I was posting so as to let you all know.. I'm still exploring androidland!

Indeed. Anyway, you are covered with a warranty up to the point of rooting, and don't forget there are millions of these handsets out there with satisfied users. Dont get lost in AndroindLand and enjoy the 'Note

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Not quite true. There is an issue with SOME existing GSN units, but not all. There is a best effort utility somewhere on these forums that can give an indication which devices are, or might be affected by flawed eMMc software/hardware. Its not totaly conclusive, but its a good indicator. The fact that Samsung have pre-loaded ICS is good news, and they have either ensured the hardware is 100% or they have an updated version of ICS, or done both. I'm wondering if the OP could post which version of ICS they have ie 4.0.3 or 4.0.4 or something else. The OP have bought this brand new from Amazon.de and can expect to be able to use the device fully, as per the instruction manual without fear, including factory re-sets. If the device croaks, its RTM to Amazon for replacement or refund.
I'm wondering if the OP solarboy, could let us all know how well the GPS runs with google maps and navigation (should be near perfect with no screen flicker/jumping) and would he be prepared to run the Check brick bug App. Post the results. Its a simple app that reads hardware detail and displays the result, does nothing else, and its easy to remove afterwards.
Personally, I think this is a positive move. I did hear on the grapevine that Amazon are getting slightly pissed with the high number of returns its getting with the GSN, maybe Samsung have finally woken up. I do hope so.
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Thanks for your reply mate! Actually didn't thought of that.. it actually can mean good news
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Indeed. Anyway, you are covered with a warranty up to the point of rooting, and don't forget there are millions of these handsets out there with satisfied users. Dont get lost in AndroindLand and enjoy the 'Note
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How i support this sentence! Even thought i got my Note bricked 2 times in a row.. i won't change to any other phone in the market currently because i really love my Note

4.4.3 Coming Soon for 2013 Droids!

As you guys probably know, Moto X,G & E got android 4.4.3 a few hours after its release.
So today a few minutes ago David Schuster posted this in the comments:
David Schuster said:
I see a lot of comments on a couple different threads asking about the 2013 DROID plans. Now that KitKat 4.4.3 is publicly available I am able to give more information about our plans. As I have stated previously, we ran into some issues with requirement churn on getting KitKat 4.4.2 out as quickly as we wanted too. Once that got resolved last month we had a decision to make with respect to rolling out KitKat 4.4.2 vs. waiting for KitKat 4.4.3, which we knew, was coming out shortly. We were concerned that if we used KitKat 4.4.2 it could be months before we were given the opportunity to get you KitKat 4.4.3. Consequently, we made the decision to wait for KitKat 4.4.3 as the base for our next update to the 2013 DROID family. We are working to get this update to you shortly, as it gets closer I will let you guys know. Thanks for your patience.
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https://plus.google.com/102838570385793445288/posts/EiWDVJ2LE17
So the 2013 Droids Lineup are getting 4.4.3
thats good news, thanks motorola for not forgetting about us!
What do you guys think? i honestly dont care if it takes a month or two, just the news that we are getting something its good to my concern.

I just wish the life expectancy of a phone was longer. We probably should have got 4.4.2 a long time ago. I just want 5.0... Just my opinion.
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Lol beat me to it!
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All I can say is this is definitely the last "droid" phone that I buy
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Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound ungrateful... I'm glad we're getting something, but I just don't like how Verizon has such a strangle hold on these phones
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Wish Verizon would let us trade for a moto x
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rmjones2006 said:
All I can say is this is definitely the last "droid" phone that I buy
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Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound ungrateful... I'm glad we're getting something, but I just don't like how Verizon has such a strangle hold on these phones
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What Verizon device are you going to choose that has faster updates? And what are you missing that hasn't been updated yet?
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akellar said:
What Verizon device are you going to choose that has faster updates? And what are you missing that hasn't been updated yet?
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Not sure what yet, maybe the moto x+1 or wait and see how the silver line plays out.
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Just to add to this. I'll be doing a full port over from the T-Mobile 4.4.3 update as soon as the appropriate files become available. Would be easier to do the VZW 4.4.3, but until then T-Mo it is.

Topsnake said:
Just to add to this. I'll be doing a full port over from the T-Mobile 4.4.3 update as soon as the appropriate files become available. Would be easier to do the VZW 4.4.3, but until then T-Mo it is.
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Thanks bud appreciate your hard work. I just wish the x firmware was 100% compatible with the droids. A few little quirks screw it up like the active notifications half work. If it was 100% I would have been running 4.2.2 all along.

bigv5150 said:
Thanks bud appreciate your hard work. I just wish the x firmware was 100% compatible with the droids. A few little quirks screw it up like the active notifications half work. If it was 100% I would have been running 4.2.2 all along.
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Yeah I have a few things I want to try on this new update to try and correct that. Just a waiting game now
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akellar said:
What Verizon device are you going to choose that has faster updates? And what are you missing that hasn't been updated yet?
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The Moto X has been getting faster updates on Verizon for sure.
The home key bug, the share menu bug, the loss of Google connectivity in low signal areas bug, battery drain issues on KitKat, some people have BT issues, OTG mounting support - all of these (some minor) have not been patched for over five months now. I'm glad that an update is coming, but it's brainless that Verizon wanted a minor radio patch that could have been provided with a full 4.4.2 update, but at least now we don't have to wait a long time for a 4.4.3 update.
Honestly, I am ok with the phone as-is. The Google account issues only happened to me once, the share bug twice, but others have been plagued with these issues - daily having to re-authenticate to Google servers when they drive through low signal areas back and forth to work, etc.

doogald said:
The Moto X has been getting faster updates on Verizon for sure.
The home key bug, the share menu bug, the loss of Google connectivity in low signal areas bug, battery drain issues on KitKat, some people have BT issues, OTG mounting support - all of these (some minor) have not been patched for over five months now. I'm glad that an update is coming, but it's brainless that Verizon wanted a minor radio patch that could have been provided with a full 4.4.2 update, but at least now we don't have to wait a long time for a 4.4.3 update.
Honestly, I am ok with the phone as-is. The Google account issues only happened to me once, the share bug twice, but others have been plagued with these issues - daily having to re-authenticate to Google servers when they drive through low signal areas back and forth to work, etc.
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All devices have bugs and all devices have threads where people don't think they get updated fast enough. The grass is always greener...

akellar said:
All devices have bugs and all devices have threads where people don't think they get updated fast enough. The grass is always greener...
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Yes, they do. But you asked two questions, and I answered them.

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Yes, they do. But you asked two questions, and I answered them.
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Well if u don't like bugs.. Download and flash a stable custom ROM... Provided you unlocked your phone when everyone else did
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I read this on Droid-Life, it was good hear we are getting 4.4.3 at least. The X8 chip is actually pretty nice.

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Not sure if I have the 4.4.3 update as all mine shows is 4.4.
Can anyone confirm?

DERacing said:
Not sure if I have the 4.4.3 update as all mine shows is 4.4.
Can anyone confirm?
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You are on the most recent Droid MAXX/Ultra/Mini update, 19.6.3, which is just 4.4, not 4.4.3.

bagheadinc said:
You are on the most recent Droid MAXX/Ultra/Mini update, 19.6.3, which is just 4.4, not 4.4.3.
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Great! Thank you for the info.

I sincerely hope they can unlock all 2013 droids' bootloader officially rather than getting 4.4.3...

-Zeta- said:
I sincerely hope they can unlock all 2013 droids' bootloader officially rather than getting 4.4.3...
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Verizon would never allow that on a "production' device.