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Hi guys,
As you can tell by my username, I am completely new to Android, and naturally to hacking it! Currently I have a stock hero, and and contemplating rooting and flashing it, although I'm having some reservations. While this is my first post, I have been lurking and reading the forums for 2 or 3 weeks now since Damage got a hold of the first Sprint leak. While the whole process looks pretty simple, I have seen how random many of the problems, such as the audio issue are. Some people seem to have no problems, while others have a s#!tstorm of them.
I am not normally one to fix things that aren't broken, and (knock on wood) I haven't really had any of the issues others with stock phones have had. I have never once had a problem with sending or receiving MMS, and most of the lag and quirkiness I am able to live with. On the flip side of that coin, I have read up on Google's Android dev pages all of the changes and enhancements made in 1.6 and 2.0, and am itching to get them on my phone. Like a lot of other people, I am eagerly awaiting Sprint's official release, but am not holding much hope that it will be here this month.
In any event, since I registered I figured I would just say "Hi," while I decide what to do (becoming impatient waiting for the official) and hope that the novel I just wrote hasn't bored anyone to death
Eric

noobmodder said:
Hi guys,
As you can tell by my username, I am completely new to Android, and naturally to hacking it! Currently I have a stock hero, and and contemplating rooting and flashing it, although I'm having some reservations. While this is my first post, I have been lurking and reading the forums for 2 or 3 weeks now since Damage got a hold of the first Sprint leak. While the whole process looks pretty simple, I have seen how random many of the problems, such as the audio issue are. Some people seem to have no problems, while others have a s#!tstorm of them.
I am not normally one to fix things that aren't broken, and (knock on wood) I haven't really had any of the issues others with stock phones have had. I have never once had a problem with sending or receiving MMS, and most of the lag and quirkiness I am able to live with. On the flip side of that coin, I have read up on Google's Android dev pages all of the changes and enhancements made in 1.6 and 2.0, and am itching to get them on my phone. Like a lot of other people, I am eagerly awaiting Sprint's official release, but am not holding much hope that it will be here this month.
In any event, since I registered I figured I would just say "Hi," while I decide what to do (becoming impatient waiting for the official) and hope that the novel I just wrote hasn't bored anyone to death
Eric
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I'm just kidding. Welcome, welcome. If you need help, there are plenty of people here knowledgeable enough to help you in anyway. Just make sure you use the SEARCH button thoroughly!
Otherwise, cya around.

welcome in!
welcome aboard! its really not hard to root and try new roms. i would recommend rooting and backing up then trying a stable 1.5 rom like fresh, do a nandroid back up of it then dive into the 2.1 roms. you can always go back to a nandroid back up if you ave issues. read as much as you can first.
i flashed over to the newest fresh with pri=170_03 and prl=60663 and havent had any issues. nothing works quite perfectly (very, very minor issues) but then again stock doesnt either (as you have noticed and commented on).
dip your toes in and have a go. it is worth it. the devs here have done a fantastic job.
cheers,
ryan

Frankly, I see no harm in at least TRYING a custom 2.1 ROM out, since during the process of initially rooting, you are told to do a "nandroid" backup. With that backup, you can go back to the stock ROM should you have unbearable problems with a custom one. (or if you just don't like them..)
It should be noted that when the OFFICIAL 2.1 drops, theres a very good chance that they will have patched the root exploit, leaving you with the stock sprint rom (and bloatware)
My suggestion is this.. Test out a few of the custom roms.. Fresh 2.0d and Damagecontrol 2.06 are great places to start.. If you don't like them, go back to your 1.5 stock or a 1.5 custom rom, and wait for the official 2.1 and a custom rom based off of that..
Just my two cents.

When did this forum become "xda-developers-personals.com"?

Welcome Noobmodder, you will come to enjoy the excellent resources this forum has to offer. Beware though, it could be detrimental to your personal relationships as flashing and modding can be as addictive as drinking and gambling! lol

Speaking of, I've been meaning to say this to you troy..
I don't know what Troy you are speaking of, but my fiance is from Troy, Tn.. So you probably know each other if that's what your troy means... Because from all that I've seen, there's not too many people out that way..lol..

Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!

Welcome to the party!!
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Speaking of, I've been meaning to say this to you troy..
I don't know what Troy you are speaking of, but my fiance is from Troy, Tn.. So you probably know each other if that's what your troy means... Because from all that I've seen, there's not too many people out that way..lol..
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Troy is actually my first name and I live in Knoxville, TN (eastern state). I believe, Troy is near UT Martin if I recall correctly (west TN). Nice area.

noobmodder said:
Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!
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Basically, once you have a recovery image flashed, and a nandroid of your stock rom, there really isn't much to worry about (as far as a brick goes)
Flash away!

Let us know if you need any help. If you have been lurking for a couple of weeks you probably won't have any issues rooting and flashing, but just the same let us know if you do run into any problems.
If you have not rooted yet I recommend using Fresh's kitchen.
Here's the link.
http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-pre-kitchen-02

noobmodder said:
Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!
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Modding is not a spectator sport. You need to decide if you want to get your hands dirty because staying on the bleachers you won't see much
Just make sure you keep reading everything you can find on this forum until you feel comfortable giving it a shot. If there's something you don't understand or something that's bothering you then hold off. It's better to approach modding your phone with full confidence and some knowledge under your belt then find yourself on your knees begging for mercy from Sprint's local customer service czar.

Ok guys!
Just rooted and flashed DC 2.06 and I have a question. Does this version of DC still need the CDMA Auto PRL setting changed like in the past?

noobmodder said:
Ok guys!
Just rooted and flashed DC 2.06 and I have a question. Does this version of DC still need the CDMA Auto PRL setting changed like in the past?
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I've been monitoring this for a while, and with both Flipz's .03 radio and his .10 radio, I haven't needed to change it. Of course, this is with mulitple restarts thanks to the audio bug.

Disregard this post

It's pretty hard to brick your phone, unless you flash a radio.img incorrectly. Like I said, there's plenty of people that are experienced enough with Android to help you out. Not to mention, almost any errors you encounter will mostly already be documented and have solutions.

[Q] [q] why are people unrooting??

I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?

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shortydoggg said:
I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?
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I just answered a post in another thread about this .... people are out of their effin minds especially when the software is out there already and has been for a while... Hey there a million what do I do posts and people getting flamed and the sensitive ones going stop doing that... Hey you stupid enough to update your phone OTA f-it you deserve what you get. forum is here to educated and help and if you dont want to use that help then you get what you deserve... Dont mean to be a **** but I guess for some you will feel that I am oh well

A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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I didn't get a choice, my phone died after flashing the new radio. When i got my replaced it had the latest ota already installed. Also went from Hardware 003 to 004. Guess I now have to give up flashing cold turkey

wgallt said:
A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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Within the same day a rooted version was out.
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Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.

Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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Award Tour said:
Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.
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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.

wgallt said:
Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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When you do that, you run that chance of an exploit never being found. That may very well be the case if you have S-ON.

The dissapointment in the leaked OTA wasn't enough to dissuade people i guess.

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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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novanosis85 said:
If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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I agree fully with this statement but like I said the leaked version has been out for like a month already... no guarantees they can fix the new bootloader... I know better though lol
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Impatience

I unrooted because there was no reason for me to be rooted. The only benefit of rooting for me was to have the free wifi tethering.
When my wife did the latest OTA update she was getting 4g in places I didn't get it. Her phone was also downloading on 4g at 10 megs down using the speedtest.net app. With multiple roms I have never gotten above 2 megs down, when I unrooted and went stock I was getting faster and better 4g.
Every Rom I installed was buggy, So if I am going to deal with roms that don't work or take away features or burn your eyes in the dark I would rather just deal with the stock sprint phone. I am also fortunate enough to be able to afford the hotspot service from sprint so I would rather pay for reliable fast service.
These are the reasons I unrooted. I understand that everyone has their own reasons for what they do with their devices and I respect them please respect mine. I am just answering the question that was asked in this post.

novanosis85 said:
If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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Well, people HAVE missed it, and yes, they SHOULD know better. However, some need more help than others.

I was tempted but I knew someone that was stock and I let him go first. I also knew everyone would be posting here. I now run the rooted Rom put out the same day the ota was released. Thank god I held on to my senses and waited for it.
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I'm not unrooting anytime soon. Couple of reasons.
1.The big one is I'm not a huge fan of Sense.
2.All the bloatware that comes on the stock rom that slows it down, and takes up room.
3.For my battery!!!!

unrooted
Unrooted, tried out stock Gingerbread, rooted it again with rooting hormones.
It's not that "hard"...

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Quick trick to get OTA Jellybean

Not sure if this is where this goes but this worked for me on 3 Nexus S 4G's today..
All of them on different accounts. One is flashed to MetroPCS and still get's Jellybean love!
Remember it will not work right away, just when your sick of doing it BAM..
One phone i tried for 2 hours and nothing..Then just before my friend left my house i tried once more and it worked..
If this does not work for you,well, at least i gave you something to do while you were bored!
But i swear it worked on 3 phones today!
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Open the Settings application.
Select Apps.
Select the All drawer, and select Google Service Frameworks.
First, Force Stop the application, then Clear Data.
Now that the Google Service Frameworks are reset, you may check for an update, by selecting About Phone in Settings, and select System Update.
**The last update check should be garbled. Around 1969.**
--------------->If this did not work, try these steps several times. This is important, IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL TRIES BEFORE A RESULT.
Give a thanks if it works for you and reply back with results..
Enjoy
** Not sure about this breaking push notification on apps?
First I heard of this. I guess try at your own risk but my wife's Nexus S 4G seems to be working great after using this method.
## Maybe try to back up apps that use push notifications with Titanium Backup and reinstall after if u have any issues.
Just a thought not sure if that will help!

TONYSALEM78 said:
Not sure if this is where this goes but this worked for me on 3 Nexus S 4G's today..
All of them on different accounts. One is flashed to MetroPCS and still get's Jellybean love!
Remember it will not work right away, just when your sick of doing it BAM..
One phone i tried for 2 hours and nothing..Then just before my friend left my house i tried once more and it worked..
If this does not work for you,well, at least i gave you something to do while you were bored!
But i swear it worked on 3 phones today!
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Open the Settings application.
Select Apps.
Select the All drawer, and select Google Service Frameworks.
First, Force Stop the application, then Clear Data.
Now that the Google Service Frameworks are reset, you may check for an update, by selecting About Phone in Settings, and select System Update.
**The last update check should be garbled. Around 1969.**
--------------->If this did not work, try these steps several times. This is important, IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL TRIES BEFORE A RESULT.
Give a thanks if it works for you and reply back with results..
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I thought this broke the push notification on apps that use push, no?

I decided that I could resolve the push if need be and went ahead and tried this again (did it previously on other updates). Tried about five times, walked away for about 15 minutes. Tried again and it worked. Update is downloading now.

Cool. Glad its working for people! Enjoy
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Thanks man it works!
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So, I just switched to the NS4G from my ET4G because it's been having some hardware issues (Not really relevant for this, but figured I would introduce myself to the Nexus S community this way haha...)
This is what worked for me:
*Force Stop Google Services Framework
*Clear Data On Google Services Framework
*Wait about 5 minutes
*Checked for updates
I did it 1 time, and it worked for me. Not too sure if it'll work that way for everyone, but I believe it's def worth trying.

didnt force stop at all but clear framework and checked now, didnt work.
Read your post, cleared data,
waited 5 mins.
checked and now update.
Thanks file size 121.6mb

ok, so this means only one thing could be possible...Sprint lied to us. they told us the update would start the 6th, but it didn't start until yesterday. I can't count how many posts I saw from people who tried this and it didn't work...now, miraculously, it starts working when we know it's out?!?!?!?!
Look at the facts, people!! Sprint lied to us and the update did not start the 6th like they said. if it had, this would have worked on sept 6th, and would not just magically start working on sept 10th!

This worked. I'm on jellybean now. It took over 26 attempts. No joke. But so worth it.
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Sprint didn't lie they said this is a two part roll out starting the 6th the galaxy nexus got its first then us look at the facts they still have a few days before some people will get it and they didn't even have to bring it out for our phone oh and download supersu and flash it thru recovery for root and air kernel r1 works with this
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Flashable .zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31430372#post31430372

So question for the New Jelly Bean update... Teamviewer came out with there Quicksuppprt app. It says it only works on Stock firmware, Non modded. It works on Stock ICS but doesnt work on Stock JellyBean. Is any one else having this problem. Im not sure if its because i flashed Jellybean via ODIN yesterday since i didnt want to wait for the OTA to get pushed or is it just the fact that it doesnt work on JellyBean NS4g's yet
Also im rooted, forgot to try before i rooted my device :/
Can anyone who waited for the OTA to get pushed to there phone confirm or not if they are able to Download and install "TeamViewer QuickSupport" to there Jellybean NS4g device
Thanks and much appreciated

shrekdaklown said:
Sprint didn't lie they said this is a two part roll out starting the 6th the galaxy nexus got its first then us look at the facts they still have a few days before some people will get it and they didn't even have to bring it out for our phone oh and download supersu and flash it thru recovery for root and air kernel r1 works with this
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are you kidding??
1. they never said it's a two-part update. they said updates would start the 6th...nothing about two parts. even the reps I spoke with said I should have had it already!! The funny thing is, not even two hours after I complained (and openly admitted to having looked on XDA for it and it wasn't out yet) people started getting the OTA. That's pretty coincidental, no?
2. they owed us an update. we are nexus owners. we get every update until the hardware can't run the firmware. If they don't like that, they can choose to stop selling the nexus line...there's the door. If it's a phone that's only on one carrier and the carrier doesn't update, google should step in and release the factory image immediately. Now don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I don't mean they LEGALLY owe us an update. I mean since we own a development device, they would be pretty stupid to turn their backs on us....many of us have given google a percentage of the code used in final release versions of android. If they turn their backs on those people, they will be pretty screwed. They use quite a few features from roms that were here before google ever had the idea to do that. For example, swipe to clear notifications...that came from CM team. It sure as HELL wasn't google's baby, that's for sure!! That's why I say they owe us an update. Whether any one of us has personally contributed code or not, we have still contributed to the android project by testing the code that the developers here contributed to android.

if they are releasing a rom for two phones it wont be a single wave the galaxy nexus owners got it first because they bought the newer phones and when we bought our nexus s's they never said they would update it forever we are lucky we got it they could have been like nope you have to be a galaxy nexus and honestly we are lucky because most companys would have made us upgrade to get it or make our own i was right beside you waiting for the update and as soon as i had the image files on here i odin'ed them to my phone most sprint reps have no idea whats going on with roms and such but i know i count myself lucky to have a phone like this and not be stuck like i was with my evo shift alot of companys owe us for bettering there product but how many actually pay

wifi
Tried this using 3g or 4g all day and nothing, then tried with wifi and if worked like a charm the 1st time i tried, dont know why it worked out this way, but to those for which this method is not working when connected to 3g or 4g try using this method while connected to wifi, it might just work as it did for me.

Doing the checkin CMD does nothing but the same thing as going through the settings about phone and clicking system update..
Haven't tried this method yet.. May try soon..
Hopefully that OTA hits my way some time soon..

I forgot to add that I was on Wifi also...
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GrimReaper24 said:
Doing the checkin CMD does nothing but the same thing as going through the settings about phone and clicking system update..
Haven't tried this method yet.. May try soon..
Hopefully that OTA hits my way some time soon..
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Make sure your on wifi and you remove or delete Google services framework data in settings...apps. it took me over 26 times before it worked. I'm happily running stock jellybean
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hp420 said:
are you kidding??
1. they never said it's a two-part update. they said updates would start the 6th...nothing about two parts. even the reps I spoke with said I should have had it already!! The funny thing is, not even two hours after I complained (and openly admitted to having looked on XDA for it and it wasn't out yet) people started getting the OTA. That's pretty coincidental, no?
2. they owed us an update. we are nexus owners. we get every update until the hardware can't run the firmware. If they don't like that, they can choose to stop selling the nexus line...there's the door. If it's a phone that's only on one carrier and the carrier doesn't update, google should step in and release the factory image immediately. Now don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I don't mean they LEGALLY owe us an update. I mean since we own a development device, they would be pretty stupid to turn their backs on us....many of us have given google a percentage of the code used in final release versions of android. If they turn their backs on those people, they will be pretty screwed. They use quite a few features from roms that were here before google ever had the idea to do that. For example, swipe to clear notifications...that came from CM team. It sure as HELL wasn't google's baby, that's for sure!! That's why I say they owe us an update. Whether any one of us has personally contributed code or not, we have still contributed to the android project by testing the code that the developers here contributed to android.
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Sprint stores had the file so people who had a replacement or a friend inside could of got the update on the 7th.
Sprint never said it was a two part update, but they said it would be a slow rollout for ns4g not gnex, over 8 days between which leaves you to believe the first half would be gnex, second half ns4g. Gonzo posted the files he got at the service center hours before anyone got the OTA link posted so the files were out since the 6th for both phones. SO my point is big deal it was only 4 days. Better than 4 months for ICS and deff better then whats going on over at verizon. Sprint told the truth. Not all reps know the facts. I worked for target and it doesnt mean i knew when we were getting new shipments of products. You should be mad that Sprint didnt explain the process but OTA 4 days later is better than no OTA.
Hopefully, you didnt quit your job or something like that to get the update on the 6th because thats your fault.
but cheer up, you have it now. Play around with the smoothness and yell out "I CANT BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!!!"

I have been trying to get this to work the last couple of days with no success.
Would having an unlocked bootloader prevent me from getting the OTA? If so, how do I lock the bootloader only?

[FIXED] please, do your part to get official 4.4.4 and 4.4.3 images

Edit:
you annoying bastards did it
4.4.4 are live on the site as usual.
go download em https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
edit 2:
they are still missing the VRZ. but i think that is just red tape (red, get it?) from VRZ.
doesn't hurt to continue to bug them
edit 3:
sad that we had to annoy each other but it's finally complete. maybe next time don't include a annoy.timer setting with such lower timer in your OTA app :/ (it really has that name). or make it not jump in front of gps and calls... well i should learn not to use stock roms...
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hi, if you also have a developer edition phone, and are pissed that morola only provides 4.4.2 and 4.2.2 images, making it impossible to restore a dev device back to stock for any reason, whithout a complex (and probably dev edition warranty voiding?) downgrade procedure, please, do bug them and ask for it.
the steps are:
1. open a chat (or call 1-800-734-5870 ) at https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/mcp/service/
2. mention that you have a developer device
3. say that the page at https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images is impacting your device usage
3.b optional. you can mention the fact that being on stock 4.4.3 and being unable to update, you will get the 4.4.4 update warning every couple minutes, even on top of the GPS while you are driving!
4. mention that the page reads "to help owners return to the latest Motorola software." on the very first paragraph.
5. recall them that the latest motorola software is 4.4.4 or at least 4.4.3
do not give up until they say "i'm escaling this to L2." whatever that means
thank you! Only with lots of people bugging them they will do something about it.
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make noise on social networks!
FB: to do
G+: https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
tweet: to do
tumblr: to do
reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/2jxvdo/please_do_your_part_to_get_official_444_and_443/
(comment with the links to the above and i will update here)

Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.

SamuriHL said:
Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.
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thanks for trying man! for me it was pretty smooth.
I did mention that i was on stock 4.4.3, installed on motorola themselves on my phone. I only had a custom recovery, because, well, that is the reason i got a developer phone. The rep never asked me if i rooted or not. because it is irrelevant as you know and mentioned above.
i'd try again later on. maybe you get a rep with a clue. either way, thanks again for trying.
We need volume! c'mon folks.

Done deal!
Ooof.. hopefully Moto will realize that they need to do this as we'll need that to update to 5.0 if released!

Well, let's see if this helps....
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Well, let's see if this helps....
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good idea. i'm not much on social networks, but
can you give me a proper link? i will pass it around at school and work email lists to get people to bump this.
Actually, i can update the top post with tweets, FB, G+ links that everyone can repost/like/+1 etc.
sadly, i'm on none of those networks

https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/ZYZpw33AoRA

livinginkaos said:
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/ZYZpw33AoRA
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it says, this post cannot be found:
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Sorry, that one was semi private. This one should work.....
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
sent from my G3

livinginkaos said:
Sorry, that one was semi private. This one should work.....
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
sent from my G3
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thanks! added! and +1ed

gcbxda said:
thanks! added! and +1ed
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I plus one your post but was unable to leave a comment.
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SamuriHL said:
Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.
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Looks like when google sold Moto they lost their responsibility for keeping the devices up to date with factory images. Luckily and thanks to you SamuriHL I have this from you to pull my stock 4.4.4 images for my xt1060 dev edition. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307

Travisdroidx2 said:
I plus one your post but was unable to leave a comment.
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Looks like when google sold Moto they lost their responsibility for keeping the devices up to date with factory images. Luckily and thanks to you SamuriHL I have this from you to pull my stock 4.4.4 images for my xt1060 dev edition. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
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Yea, unfortunately that doesn't help us GSM DE users. I'm incredibly frustrated. Well, it just strengthens my resolve to get a Nexus 6. At least with that I know the images will be posted by Google in a very reasonable timeframe. For my S4 GPE I have to make them myself which is equally frustrating. On the X GSM DE we may have to get to a point of a hybrid "FXZ" where we fastboot some partitions, reboot into custom recovery, and then flash a pulled system image. That just seems really wrong when it wouldn't take Moto very much to host the damn images for us.

SamuriHL said:
Yea, unfortunately that doesn't help us GSM DE users. I'm incredibly frustrated. Well, it just strengthens my resolve to get a Nexus 6. At least with that I know the images will be posted by Google in a very reasonable timeframe. For my S4 GPE I have to make them myself which is equally frustrating. On the X GSM DE we may have to get to a point of a hybrid "FXZ" where we fastboot some partitions, reboot into custom recovery, and then flash a pulled system image. That just seems really wrong when it wouldn't take Moto very much to host the damn images for us.
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Completely agree. That is one good thing about the nexus. You can count on those image files being released in a timely matter. Thanks again though for your work. It gave me the stock images I needed for my Dev edition. Very much appreciated! As well as you old house of bionic I used on my wife's old bionic lol

Travisdroidx2 said:
Completely agree. That is one good thing about the nexus. You can count on those image files being released in a timely matter. Thanks again though for your work. It gave me the stock images I needed for my Dev edition. Very much appreciated! As well as you old house of bionic I used on my wife's old bionic lol
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The images I got came from stras. I just post them as he gives them to me. He's awesome. Also, not to get off topic, but just so you're aware my House of Moto and RSD Flasher tools will work for your X DE and that FXZ.

SamuriHL said:
The images I got came from stras. I just post them as he gives them to me. He's awesome. Also, not to get off topic, but just so you're aware my House of Moto and RSD Flasher tools will work for your X DE and that FXZ.
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Thanks for your time and tools. However, once I learned how to manually flash image files I left the toolkits alone. But if I was to use a tool I would trust yours.

Nothing has changed. I have it on good authority that this amounts to a bureaucratic oversight and will be taken care of ASAP.
All the right people are aware of the issue and working to address it.

cellzealot said:
Nothing has changed. I have it on good authority that this amounts to a bureaucratic oversight and will be taken care of ASAP.
All the right people are aware of the issue and working to address it.
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That's actually really good to hear. Thanks for the info!

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That's actually really good to hear. Thanks for the info!
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No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!

cellzealot said:
No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!
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That is truly excellent news. I was very concerned since they only have 4.4.2 up there and 4.4.3 has been out for months now. Yes we've been able to get leaks until recently but we should be able to get them officially and the sbf site hasn't been updated since early September.
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Not sure why you guys are praising nexus. My experience with N1 was awfull. stuck on 2.3 forever. zero support. hardware problems that should have been recalled completely ignored and dismissed by google and htc... well, i think i will have my opnion change when N4 gets 5.0 (which is it capable on hardware)
also, you are all ignoring the fact that the next nexus will be churned out by motorola. and will be a even bigger phablet than motoX2.
cellzealot said:
No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!
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nice! (assuming that policy was to provide more than two images...) will continue to bug them daily. so you can tell your friend to tell the underling to ask for a raise! management will surely say yes

Thoughts on the Sprint Varient

Ive been a long time lurker on this site prolly since the GSII-- I dont post much then , or with me GSIII or Note 2- I guess thats why that account no longer exists. So with my purchase of the Note Edge i knew this would be my go to place for any information or eventually ROM's-- i gotta say that normally i never spent more then a day with Touchwiz- usually rooting and flashing within 24 hours of purchase. Ive had the phone foe about 4 days and.... HOLY MOLY this phone is slooow... so much crap is running-- 3gb of ram and 2 and half of it is always used-- sprint zone and fb keep updating and re downloading even though i continuously uninstall them daily and revert to original software versions. Now i finally understand peoples hatred towards touchwiz.. im used to ASOP-- I coulda swore touchwiz was NOT that bad in the GSII days ;-( although i have faith the dev. will take off eventually with this phone... if there were other options i might have considered going else where-- im coming from a rooted note2) But i dont think there is anything remotely better then samsung-- as bad ass as the phone is spec'd out to be i thought it would be as zippy as the nexus--- but it is most definitely slower then my note- Also since ive been ot of the loop this KNOX stuff is all new to me--basically from what i gathered by googling any root will void the warranty on the device? ive never ever sent a phone in to samsung but there is times ive gone to A Sprint tech center for help--will they turn me away if its 0x1? well i just wanted to stop by and say hi to this forum-- im beginning the process to acquire files so i can root my phone tonight-- id think the sky is the limit with the things we can do with out phones--- Much thanks to the DEV's that make this possible!!

Well your sprint one seems to be acting funny.. I'm on my T-Mobile Note Edge, and I started from the G1. This phone is really smooth, no errors, and for the first time really no reason for me to have to root my phone and get rid of bloat ware to speed things up! And that was before I disabled the bloat ware anyways. You could say I'm also waiting for a way to root without tripping Knox. I'm kinda curious how ASOP or CyanogenMod will look like on this phone, and if they'll be able to use the edge productively. I'm actually throughly pleased with the phone, especially with how the home launcher is setup. My only bug is the fact that the second favorite edge doesn't allow for reorganization. That's my 2 cents. I hope your experience becomes more enjoyable
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Let me restate...i kinda sounded like a whiney brat with my last/first post. I realize that we as a group aa the less then 1% that care about specs.. and ver numbers. Im just not used to TouchWiz trying to do everything for me yet not the things i want it to do. for example every time I touch it text entry field I have a keyboard icon on the top of the notification bar...prompting me to choose Input method EVERYTIME?!? everyday I get sprint zone adverts in my notification bar even though I uninstall it every night before bed.. and multiple times a day I'm asked if I would like to sign in for Picasa.. i say no 3 or 4 times a day.. i cant figure out how to delete it. I miss the custom roms where all this bs is not even installed. Granted i knew there wasn't much support when i took the jump.. and honestly these issues would be the same with the regular note 4... id most definitely be willing to throw some $ to a recocognized established dev out there ... im miss my paranoid android and illusion roms :-/ but i know nothing out there can compare to the note edge at the moment...!

I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.

I'm using the AT&T stock version and haven't encountered any issues except I waited to long to send it back to get the white version. Lol. Other than that I like the device.

nick.farinas said:
Ive been a long time lurker on this site prolly since the GSII-- I dont post much then , or with me GSIII or Note 2- I guess thats why that account no longer exists. So with my purchase of the Note Edge i knew this would be my go to place for any information or eventually ROM's-- i gotta say that normally i never spent more then a day with Touchwiz- usually rooting and flashing within 24 hours of purchase. Ive had the phone foe about 4 days and.... HOLY MOLY this phone is slooow... so much crap is running-- 3gb of ram and 2 and half of it is always used-- sprint zone and fb keep updating and re downloading even though i continuously uninstall them daily and revert to original software versions. Now i finally understand peoples hatred towards touchwiz.. im used to ASOP-- I coulda swore touchwiz was NOT that bad in the GSII days ;-( although i have faith the dev. will take off eventually with this phone... if there were other options i might have considered going else where-- im coming from a rooted note2) But i dont think there is anything remotely better then samsung-- as bad ass as the phone is spec'd out to be i thought it would be as zippy as the nexus--- but it is most definitely slower then my note- Also since ive been ot of the loop this KNOX stuff is all new to me--basically from what i gathered by googling any root will void the warranty on the device? ive never ever sent a phone in to samsung but there is times ive gone to A Sprint tech center for help--will they turn me away if its 0x1? well i just wanted to stop by and say hi to this forum-- im beginning the process to acquire files so i can root my phone tonight-- id think the sky is the limit with the things we can do with out phones--- Much thanks to the DEV's that make this possible!!
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root it and strip the rubbish and bloat, was da matta you?!
mine was slow and lagged like crazy from all the "indexservice" and annoying samsung crap running. i stripped it all and use CM cleanmaster and battery doctor. no autostarting apps and no bloat like weather and yahoo finance...
titanium backup to freeze or remove crap.
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Best variant ever!!! :highfive:
No problems since I pulled it out the box...

bignibb said:
I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
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theres a fix listed in the note 4 root post. let me see if i can find it.
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/easy-steps-stock-odin-n915tuvu1anjl-sm-t2943993 first post, midway

bignibb said:
I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
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even better

All those fixes are for rooted phones, i have not yet taken the plunge. I rooted my wife's note 4 but have just been hesitant to do my edge. I thought I was going to wait on lollipop but might not make it

Welp... enjoy your refusal

I wish there was a step by step thread on how to root the Sprint Edge and not any other variants because I don't wanna mix things up and brick my phone.

bignibb said:
I wish there was a step by step thread on how to root the Sprint Edge and not any other variants because I don't wanna mix things up and brick my phone.
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follow the steps in the link i posted but get the cf auto-root for the 915p. easy. i did it by following the link. if you screw up relax, you can fix it. but you will not screw up

cvaria said:
follow the steps in the link i posted but get the cf auto-root for the 915p. easy. i did it by following the link. if you screw up relax, you can fix it. but you will not screw up
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Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.

bignibb said:
Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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i would suggest at least reading the steps before asking questrions

bignibb said:
Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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I usually use CWM, but that's only because it's old school. Right now I chose not to install it in the last step of that thread because I have never used TWRP before. I have to say that I like the touch interface.

Besides getting the sprint variant of auto root you also need the sprint variant of TWRP. I posted a guide with basic steps including getting private mode working with xposed

For those that are here to help, thanks for pointing me to where I need to go, for those that posted about my needing to read, maybe you should spell check your snyde remarks before posting........lol
Sometimes its easier to answer a question and move on than to waste yours and my time. Yours by typing and not helping and mine by reading and not getting an answer.

bignibb said:
For those that are here to help, thanks for pointing me to where I need to go, for those that posted about my needing to read, maybe you should spell check your snyde remarks before posting........lol
Sometimes its easier to answer a question and move on than to waste yours and my time. Yours by typing and not helping and mine by reading and not getting an answer.
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look dude, i'm not trying to be a jerk but, you didn't even read the post. you just fired back a question. it's all right there in the in the link i posted, props to the creator, very well laid-out.
"RTFP"
nobody is going to baby you. you wanna root and do phone kung-fu, read!