[Q] How does Domestic Roaming work? - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm running a stock, unrooted ZVC. I live in an area with great Sprint service, but sometimes (today) I'm in an area with no or poor Sprint coverage. How can I get my G2 to roam? I don't intend to torrent all of the interwebs, I just want a little data to use Hangouts and Facebook with. I get a weak 1xRTT signal here and can make a call, but no data service. I've checked the necessary boxes, and put the phone in Global mode, but it wont roam. Putting it on GSM mode only will find AT&T , T-Mobile, but will not connect.
Even in other areas where it does prompt me to roam and it shows the little triangle, I just can't get any data signal.
This is immensely frustrating, since I'm rarely in a non Sprint area, but I'd really like roaming to just work when I need it.
Any advice?

Sprint does not roam off domestic GSM carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile. Roaming arrangements are with CDMA carriers like Verizon.
If you've gone into System Settings, Roaming and set Roaming Mode to Automaic, checked off Domestic Roaming and Domestic Data Roaming, also go to Settings, Mobile Data, hit Menu button and check off Data Roaming there as well.
If you're in an area with no Sprint signal but a roaming partner is available, it will connect to that carrier and roam off them for either voice calling (1x) or data (1x, and or 3G). Might be a good idea to update your PRL (preferred roaming list).
If after all these you still can't roam, then get on the phone with customer service and have them see what's going on.
Most Sprint plans nowadays include voice roaming and data roaming, but with this important caveat as per their T&C :
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 100 or 300 megabytes or (based on plan terms) a majority of kilobytes.
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml

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Any software to restrict data connection to 3G areas?

Just wondering is there any software or configuration available to restrict data access to 3G zones? The reason I ask is that my provider includes data inside 3G zones in my cap, but charges a fortune when I roam into GSM/Edge areas. I'd like to prevent data access when I wander into those areas, to avoid any nasty surprises!
Any ideas?
Thanks.
I'd be interested in this as well. I would want to poll for my non-push emails and other data updates ONLY within a 3G confined space.
My reasoning is because of the limitation on non-3G for receiving calls (and text) while a data "Call" is activated.

How to force evdo data roam on Mogul

I would liket to force the Mogul to evdo data roam. I have alltel evdo but not sprint.
when i use the roam only phone function and allow data roam function, I show evdo on the tool bar but when i try to connect the phone dials the 777 sprint 1x number.
Any ideas on how to force the phone to evdo on alltel?
Larry
are you sure the roaming agreement supports EVDO on alltel?
I know Verizon gives us only 1x data because their EVDO is too valuable to let the likes of us roam on it!
Sprint and Alltel have an EVDO roaming agreement between each other. Verizon does not let anyone else on their EVDO yet.
See if this pound code works: ##EVDO# (##3836#)
I don't know how you could use Alltel for voice and Sprint for data but you could use Sprint for everything if you go into your Phone settings and under roaming choose Roaming Only but you may pick up in a Verizon network (which bites ass).

[Q] CM7: How to turn off (voice) roaming?

I'm running CM7 7.1-RC1 (and earlier nightlies). In Settings, under Wireless & network settings, Mobile networks, Network Operators, I selected the one available where I currently am ("ROAMING"). I got the R above the cellular signal strength bars. Below the quick action icons when I swipe down Notifications is "ROAMING".
Now I want to turn off (voice) roaming but can't figure out how to do that. I don't want to pay roaming costs (any idea if T-Mobile will charge roaming costs? I want to be able to control it regardless.). Also, is there a way to turn off the cellular radio but leave GPS and WiFi on?
I'm not talking about data roaming, but in the Mobile network settings I have everything unchecked (Data enabled, International data roaming, National data roaming, Use only 2G networks).
In Notifications is a bang in a triangle "International data roaming" and "You have lost data connectitivity because..." (I can't read it all, tapping doesn't show anything making the notification a bit useless).
Under APNs I have the choice between Simple and T-Mobile US, the later is chosen.
When WiFi calling is active, the radio strength shows just gray bars (no x, no R). Of course that is only good if I'm at the hotel!
Airplane mode isn't a good option, but thanks for suggesting it.
excarnate said:
...any idea if T-Mobile will charge roaming costs?
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I finally got through to T-Mobile (40 minutes wait time? They must be preparing for the purchase by AT&T by lowering their standards). The rep (who was OK) had to put me on hold twice and check on things, but eventually he came back and let me know that if there is no T-Mobile service, then there are no roaming fees (note: inside the US for a US customer). So I just have to make sure that T-Mobile is preferred. I hope this helps someone!
All my other previous questions still stand, but add these: How, in CM7, do I make sure that my provider is preferred for voice? For data?
I find these areas a bit weak, which likely is very stock Android, so would I file a feature request against Google or Cyanogen or both? Or maybe someone has (please provide the # or URL!)?
Your phone will always default to the most powerful signal, whether that's with a stock MT4G or one with a custom ROM. T-mobile has no charge for roaming, data or voice, in the US. You're making making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Your phone will always default to the most powerful signal, whether that's with a stock MT4G or one with a custom ROM.
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Although you carefully didn't answer any of my remaining questions, by implication you are saying that I can not have control over the signal. Which doesn't match my experience where it would not choose roaming until selected the first time.
T-mobile has no charge for roaming, data or voice, in the US.
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Which is what I said in my second post.
You're making making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Typically that idiom means you are making a mountain out of mole hill knowing the facts, which I didn't til the time of my second post, so really it sounds to me like an unnwarranted slam.
excarnate said:
Although you carefully didn't answer any of my remaining questions, by implication you are saying that I can not have control over the signal. Which doesn't match my experience where it would not choose roaming until selected the first time.
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Alright, I'll answer them. You asked how you can set to not roam on voice or data. Voice, there is no way to keep it from roaming. You can go in and do a manual network selection, but the next time it comes to a roaming tower that has a more powerful signal then it will jump to it. On the data, you can only tell the phone to not roam on other's towers but you cannot set it to where it always chooses a lower signal T-mobile tower over a stronger signal roaming tower. Which means that if you set it to not roam on data then if your phone connects up the stronger signal that happens to be a roaming partner then you won't get any data connection, even if there is a T-mobile tower available. The phone just chooses the strongest symbol.

Rogers LTE network APN settings

Hi all-
Can someone on Rogers in Canada please corroborate this info for me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40906041#post40906041
Basically, it appears that LTE users who want to use wifi hotspot tethering have been kneecapped deliberately by the network; Rogers blocks tethered device traffic on the standard LTEmobile.apn. (except DNS calls, strangely) They tell me to switch to LTEInternet.apn if I want to use wifi tethering.
But when I ask technical support about this, the "LTE APN" they tell me is required doesn't appear to be LTE in anything except name. Two APNs side by side 2 minutes apart in the same physical location give network speeds 8-10x different, and my cellular monitor app shows them negotiating different connections - HSPA+ for one, LTE for the other- that can't just be congestion.
Is this just poor service in my area (seems unlikely) or is this a deliberate crippling of tethered devices by Rogers? I have a 6Gb data plan, and they're telling me I can't use it however I want, at speeds my phone is capable of running!

After filing a complaint with the FCC against Verizon, I got a call from a VZW rep

So, as some of you know, if you use the XT1060 with T-Mobile and connect to LTE, you'll have one of two issues: 1) it connects to LTE, but you can no longer call out (or receive calls) as the phone falls back to CDMA even when locked out in the network settings, or 2) it doesn't connect to LTE because it locks the T-Mobile 3G APN in even when a manual entry T-Mobile LTE APN is selected (my issue). My X absolutely REFUSED to move to fast.t-mobile.com and failed to connect to LTE and had absolutely no signal whatsoever (no HSPA or GSM even when on LTE/GSM/UMTS). The reason from the tower: APNfailed. Tried a million times to change the APN in the LTE area to no avail.
I've found it will only change to fast.t-mobile.com (manually entered) in a non-LTE area. Well that's a great inconvenience. I had to disable LTE completely and restart the phone to get it back on HSPA+ (or wait 5-10 minutes).
Anyway, the Verizon rep called me to "troubleshoot" my issues when connecting to T-Mobile LTE. I refused to go through the typical troubleshooting steps because none of it worked when I tried, so it's not magically going to change. I found that interesting (that they'd call me) even though I've had no direct contact with Verizon. Anyway, nothing was really resolved.
Both of these issues are violations of the C-block agreement. Also, if you select Global mode, it'll default to EDGE even though HSPA is available. It'll go to HSPA after selecting LTE/GSM/UMTS, UMTS only, then move back to Global. Interesting how they make you go through these hoops, eh?
Jason.DROID said:
So, as some of you know, if you use the XT1060 with T-Mobile and connect to LTE, you'll have one of two issues: 1) it connects to LTE, but you can no longer call out (or receive calls) as the phone falls back to CDMA even when locked out in the network settings, or 2) it doesn't connect to LTE because it locks the T-Mobile 3G APN in even when a manual entry T-Mobile LTE APN is selected (my issue). My X absolutely REFUSED to move to fast.t-mobile.com and failed to connect to LTE and had absolutely no signal whatsoever (no HSPA or GSM even when on LTE/GSM/UMTS). The reason from the tower: APNfailed. Tried a million times to change the APN in the LTE area to no avail.
I've found it will only change to fast.t-mobile.com (manually entered) in a non-LTE area. Well that's a great inconvenience. I had to disable LTE completely and restart the phone to get it back on HSPA+ (or wait 5-10 minutes).
Anyway, the Verizon rep called me to "troubleshoot" my issues when connecting to T-Mobile LTE. I refused to go through the typical troubleshooting steps because none of it worked when I tried, so it's not magically going to change. I found that interesting (that they'd call me) even though I've had no direct contact with Verizon. Anyway, nothing was really resolved.
Both of these issues are violations of the C-block agreement. Also, if you select Global mode, it'll default to EDGE even though HSPA is available. It'll go to HSPA after selecting LTE/GSM/UMTS, UMTS only, then move back to Global. Interesting how they make you go through these hoops, eh?
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Wow. Hopefully something changes with Verizon and letting people use LTE on other carriers. I know almost all Verizon phones don't get LTE on any carrier other than Verizon even if the LTE bands are supported. Verizon is full of crap.

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