Just wondering is there any software or configuration available to restrict data access to 3G zones? The reason I ask is that my provider includes data inside 3G zones in my cap, but charges a fortune when I roam into GSM/Edge areas. I'd like to prevent data access when I wander into those areas, to avoid any nasty surprises!
Any ideas?
Thanks.
I'd be interested in this as well. I would want to poll for my non-push emails and other data updates ONLY within a 3G confined space.
My reasoning is because of the limitation on non-3G for receiving calls (and text) while a data "Call" is activated.
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Any seen a program that will disable automatic data roaming? If not any one wanna develop it?? Seems like a useful program to have especially when you're traveling and don't want to pay the crazy roaming fees if you accidentally use your data connection.
Any one? Ideas or software recommend?
I'm also trying to find a program that will automatically disconnect / disable data while roaming.
I live near the border of 2 countries and even though I don't pay roaming for calls, my data is not included in roaming which makes it expensive.
at the moment I use nodata modaco to manually disable my data when I'm going over the border, but then I also have to have the phone service manual to avoid roaming without knowing it and being charged for data .
this is annoying because when I lose coverage I have to select it again manually, which happens a lot living near the border.
thank you very much, dan
PocketMax PhoneAlarm (http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html) can do this through profiles. I use this feature and it sure makes travelling abroad a lot easier...no need to worry about remembering to disable data services...
thank you for your suggestion. the problem is that, due to the area where I live, I constantly change from my home network to the roaming one, even without knowing (when the service is in automatic mode). if I use profiles to disable my data with phonealarm I would have to change them all the time depending whether I'm in my home network or not. but some times, the network changes even on this side of the border.
I would have thought that some kind of mortscript would be able to disable data as soon as I moved to a foreign network without having to depend on profiles. therefore , I would not have to worry what network I'm with, because at home data would be active, and as soon as roaming kicked in, data would be disabled. thank you, dan
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Hi.
I have an HTC Touch HD on the UK 3 Network.
It works fine with texts and calls n 3g but whenever I need data for an app etc it ignores a great 3g signal and tries to connect on HSDPA instead.
now this might not seem like a problem but it often switches from full 3G bars to one bar on HSDPA to check my email. this can take 5 to 10 seconds when it could have just done it on 3G.
what gives? am i using the right settings?
start/settings/phone/band
Network Type "Auto"
GSM/UMTS band "Auto"
when i was on Vodafone it would stay on the best choice ie HSDPA instead of all this swapping about.
I hope this is the right place to ask. not a major problem just a frustration.
thanks
don
In common with many (all?) of the five networks, 3UK has recently switched their handsets from staying on HDSPA to "only" 3g, but automatically changing to HSDPA when data traffic occurs.
HSDPA demands extra bandwidth to the cell. There might be a second or so delay while the handset re-negotiates the extra protocol, but it's done to give extra capacity on the cell, allowing more space for 3G voice calls, while ensuting your data speeds aren't affected by push-email or similar low-bandwidth devices using an always-on HSDPA protocol.
In short, it's completly normal and pretty standard nowadays. Keep your phone on Auto/3G, you can't force it to HSDPA only.
I've been having internet troubles since i got my Hero a few weeks ago.
It seems to jump between '3G' and 'H' when I use any applications using the internet. This means that pages often fail to load/download, or appear slower than 2G connection speeds.
I think this is because I'm in an area which can just about receive HDSPA speeds sometimes, but not consistently, so I was wondering if there's any way to set the internet to stay at 3G and not attempt to connect to HDSPA? When I'm in areas where the best speed possible in 3G, the internet is infinitely faster than when it's jumping from 3G to H and back.
Thank You!
I'm not sure on the phone itself but from a network perspective you would need to ask you phone provider to change your QOS on the HLR (network control and provisioning) to a non HSDPA entry, eg t-mobile uk QOS 1201 = HSDPA 3.6
it doesn't work that way (the hlr qos profile). you can only set the maximum speed there, not the RAN technology which is used. i don't think there is anything you can do, the phone attaches to the best server (=cell with strongest signal), and if that cell supports hsdpa it is used for data transfer. as hsd(p)a is only an "addon" for umts i don't think that your connection would be better on the same cell, even if you were able to force umts usage. bad radio reception is bad radio reception... it is not uncommon that a stable EDGE connection works better than a weak umts/hspa signal, have you tried switching to 2g?
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it doesn't work that way (the hlr qos profile). you can only set the maximum speed there, not the RAN technology which is used. i don't think there is anything you can do, the phone attaches to the best server (=cell with strongest signal), and if that cell supports hsdpa it is used for data transfer. as hsd(p)a is only an "addon" for umts i don't think that your connection would be better on the same cell, even if you were able to force umts usage. bad radio reception is bad radio reception... it is not uncommon that a stable EDGE connection works better than a weak umts/hspa signal, have you tried switching to 2g?
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of course you can, thousands of sims on networks are unable to use hsdpa because of a low qos, on t-mobile's uk system if you do not provision the web and walk plus SOC on the account the service order does not go through and they are unable to use HSDPA. I dont have a HSDPA qos and I dont get a H but if I use the sim that came with it I do.. best thing to do is give the networks tech support a ring with some times and locations and ask if they can look at what ever reporting system they use and look at network statistics at the time. Best to look at the sgsn;s and look at the stats at that point.
It doesnt matter if the cell supports hsdpa, hsdpa on the cell itself is only a capability to go back through to the msc. a footprint on a 3g cell will keep the closest strongest users when it hits max capacity, if you are on the outskirts you ill lose out.
the more you complain to the provider the qucicker they add some higher bandwidth lines to th local exchange or hub..
Might simply be a congested site, if so it should report itself...
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ahem... hspa is RAN (as in Radio Access Network) technology. it is applied to the communication between the handset and the node b, not anything behind the node b (not sure whether the rnc needs to be aware of it, but that's it, no msc involved). i am not sure whether the simcard needs to be hspa capable, but i have never heard of it. and i do provision sim cards for a living...
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ahem... hspa is RAN (as in Radio Access Network) technology. it is applied to the communication between the handset and the node b, not anything behind the node b (not sure whether the rnc needs to be aware of it, but that's it, no msc involved). i am not sure whether the simcard needs to be hspa capable, but i have never heard of it. and i do provision sim cards for a living...
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You are rightt hsdpa as a technology does get implemented between the mast (node b) and the handset.. what is added between the RNC and the node b is the LUB this is an added control mechanism, this kinda makes sure no data is loss occurs when the node b's buffers are overflowed! this is not a fool proof system, RNC? it could be a SRNC controller,, anyway you are right in what you say but as i have worked within this area i do know that when i was saying "SIMS" I didnt mean the actual sim itself i was referring to sims with old HLR profiles that cant access hsdpa! most pay as you go sims cant on tmob uk this stops them going £1 a day unlimited handset internet and hammering the sim in a dongle!! Im a big fan of provisioning btw! geeky as it sounds the complexity of mass provisioning failures interests me!
Does CDMA do data as well? I was flabbergasted to be on the road this weekend with 5 bars, but no "3G" on my HTC Thunderbolt and no internet service. Is that right? At least on GSM I'd get a GPRS connection if there was any service, & I'd always assumed in a similar fashion CDMA had some means to provide a base level of data connectivity. Was I wrong?
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Does CDMA do data as well? I was flabbergasted to be on the road this weekend with 5 bars, but no "3G" on my HTC Thunderbolt and no internet service. Is that right? At least on GSM I'd get a GPRS connection if there was any service, & I'd always assumed in a similar fashion CDMA had some means to provide a base level of data connectivity. Was I wrong?
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Of course cdma does data (if it's 3g) i believe it should be evdo rev a (there is also evdo rev 0 (slower)) you just have crappy signal.
You should have 1x. But yeah, there are times when you won't get data coverage, maybe because of roaming agreements or some other reason.
I'm running a stock, unrooted ZVC. I live in an area with great Sprint service, but sometimes (today) I'm in an area with no or poor Sprint coverage. How can I get my G2 to roam? I don't intend to torrent all of the interwebs, I just want a little data to use Hangouts and Facebook with. I get a weak 1xRTT signal here and can make a call, but no data service. I've checked the necessary boxes, and put the phone in Global mode, but it wont roam. Putting it on GSM mode only will find AT&T , T-Mobile, but will not connect.
Even in other areas where it does prompt me to roam and it shows the little triangle, I just can't get any data signal.
This is immensely frustrating, since I'm rarely in a non Sprint area, but I'd really like roaming to just work when I need it.
Any advice?
Sprint does not roam off domestic GSM carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile. Roaming arrangements are with CDMA carriers like Verizon.
If you've gone into System Settings, Roaming and set Roaming Mode to Automaic, checked off Domestic Roaming and Domestic Data Roaming, also go to Settings, Mobile Data, hit Menu button and check off Data Roaming there as well.
If you're in an area with no Sprint signal but a roaming partner is available, it will connect to that carrier and roam off them for either voice calling (1x) or data (1x, and or 3G). Might be a good idea to update your PRL (preferred roaming list).
If after all these you still can't roam, then get on the phone with customer service and have them see what's going on.
Most Sprint plans nowadays include voice roaming and data roaming, but with this important caveat as per their T&C :
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 100 or 300 megabytes or (based on plan terms) a majority of kilobytes.
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml