Database Users

The Beauty of P6800's Screen

Hi guys! Just wanted to share my experience with the P6800. For weeks I've been using this as my main video player. I had an iPhone 4 & Galaxy Note before and currently sporting a Galaxy S3. Also had an iPad 2. I mentioned them because earlier today, just for fun, I copied a bluray video (The Pacific mini series episode 7 in 1080p bluray mp4 format). I just had to try and play the file in different gadgets all at the same time. I even included my Alienware M11x in the mix.
So there I was in my room, each gadget faced towards me with their respective stands. I asked my brother and sister to help me play them all at the same time. I was astonished to what I witnessed. So I am ranking the video playback according to how beautiful it is to watch on, and all of us 3 agreed. No picture or video will do justice on how beautiful the screen is on the P6800, you really need to be there personally to see its majesty.
Results (by ranking):
1. Galaxy Tab 7.7
2. Alienware M11x
3. Galaxy S3
4. iPad 2
5. Galaxy Note
6. iPhone 4
Reasons (my opinion at least):
Galaxy Tab was easily the best to view a video of that caliber. The colors were really streaking out of the screen and the level of detail was just amazing. M11x came second because although it was very crispy, the lack of color kinda ranked it below but I'm sure there are people who prefer less vivid and more realistic colors, its just that the 7.7 really made the scenes come alive. Galaxy S3 was next because it was like a tiny version of my 7.7. iPad 2 faired okay but pixelated from time to time even though it's already bluray and it lagged a bit. Galaxy Note... wow I expected more from this one but the black clipping/artifacts just turned me off, still good during daylight scenes though (I believe it is an issue for the Galaxy Note, Samsung please fix it with the Note 2). Lastly the iPhone 4, need I say more?
Anyway I am about to sell my 7.7 since iPad Mini is coming out and I really need an iDevice to keep in touch with my relatives since EVERYONE in my clan uses Apple products (which sucks since I love Samsung's products), just that I really need FaceTime (we converse a lot, its ridiculous LOL). I will surely miss the little fella, might buy it again though after getting the iPad Mini (unless it has retina display), just can't live without that beautiful screen! for now I'll just keep my S3 close by. Salute to the P6800 society! :good:

for how much? can i get for half the price? lol kidding
am about to upgrade from the original p1000, never, ever, even for a second, i thought about ipads or whatever they do... take my advice, keep the beast, you won't regret mate (ics is already here) .
best regards ^_^
Sifou

sos_sifou said:
for how much? can i get for half the price? lol kidding
am about to upgrade from the original p1000, never, ever, even for a second, i thought about ipads or whatever they do... take my advice, keep the beast, you won't regret mate (ics is already here) .
best regards ^_^
Sifou
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey dude, i'll give the 7.7 another 3 days. been watching more bluray on this bad boy and i'm inching to settling for an iPod Touch 8GB instead for communication with my clan so i can keep this tab. let see!
upgrading to this from P1000 is a sure thing man! you'll love this tablet! :good:

sos_sifou said:
for how much? can i get for half the price? lol kidding
am about to upgrade from the original p1000, never, ever, even for a second, i thought about ipads or whatever they do... take my advice, keep the beast, you won't regret mate (ics is already here) .
best regards ^_^
Sifou
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Customizations and over clicking are already here. I have mine maxed out to 1.6 ghz now. Still on stock but adapted ezyics' kernel.
Sent from my GT-P6800 using XDA Premium HD app

kencad said:
I have mine maxed out to 1.6 ghz now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same, I've overclocked the cpu to 1.6GHz 24/7 using Tegrak Overclock.
Also deleted & disabled MANY apps/bloatware using Titanium Backup.
Used ram is only 400Mb, a further 411Mb is completely FREE!
The 7.7 absolutely FLIES!!

2 more days before my verdict loving the screen as always hehe

kanej2006 said:
Same, I've overclocked the cpu to 1.6GHz 24/7 using Tegrak Overclock.
Also deleted & disabled MANY apps/bloatware using Titanium Backup.
Used ram is only 400Mb, a further 411Mb is completely FREE!
The 7.7 absolutely FLIES!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you please list your deleted bloatware? I'm starting to delete as well but not sure what to delete.
Sent from my GT-P6800 using XDA Premium HD app

decided to stick with my 7.7, just can't let it go. hahaha! wooo! :highfive:

kencad said:
Can you please list your deleted bloatware? I'm starting to delete as well but not sure what to delete.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
I'm also want the list
Sent from my GT-P6800 using xda app-developers app

cptnappy said:
decided to stick with my 7.7, just can't let it go. hahaha! wooo! :highfive:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha, nothing beats 7.7
Sent from my 32in Galaxy Tab

kencad said:
Can you please list your deleted bloatware? I'm starting to delete as well but not sure what to delete.
Sent from my GT-P6800 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sure, refer to this site, it tells you what is safe to delete & what is not. Basically everything in green is safe to remove as long as you don't plan on using it!
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
abuihsan said:
+1
I'm also want the list
Sent from my GT-P6800 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
List:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html

The 7.7 screen is, indeed, awesome and that's why I made my mind early on about the 7.7.
My main hobby (...at a very advanced level...) is photography and there's simply no other tab around that features the contrast of the 7.7.
This said, I must point out that the white point of the display is quite "warm".
I would love for manufacturers to understand how critical image display can be for some users and come up with a in-built feature (...or a 3rd party app...) to allow for display calibration.
XK

Screen Modes
XDAKhan said:
The 7.7 screen is, indeed, awesome and that's why I made my mind early on about the 7.7.
My main hobby (...at a very advanced level...) is photography and there's simply no other tab around that features the contrast of the 7.7.
This said, I must point out that the white point of the display is quite "warm".
I would love for manufacturers to understand how critical image display can be for some users and come up with a in-built feature (...or a 3rd party app...) to allow for display calibration.
XK
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried the different modes under Settings->Display->Screen Mode ?
I find Movie to be the most natural.

xrayA4T said:
Have you tried the different modes under Settings->Display->Screen Mode ?
I find Movie to be the most natural.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i love the dynamic setting... really gives a great feel to the contrast...

xrayA4T said:
Have you tried the different modes under Settings->Display->Screen Mode ?
I find Movie to be the most natural.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use the standard setting.
Dynamic artificially boosts chroma and Movie dilutes contrast (a sign that they have little knack for naming, as contrast is, probably, the single most important item for cinematic purposes)
XK

XDAKhan said:
I use the standard setting.
Dynamic artificially boosts chroma and Movie dilutes contrast (a sign that they have little knack for naming, as contrast is, probably, the single most important item for cinematic purposes)
XK
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought the same. I use dynamic for movie watching and standard for everything else.

cptnappy said:
decided to stick with my 7.7, just can't let it go. hahaha! wooo! :highfive:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
congratulations dude! av just got mine today!
Sent from my GT-P6800 using Tapatalk 2

Hi, I'm new here. I only wanted to know where I can ask if the Canada Videotron company can support 3G/4G network and phone calls. If someone knows, it will be really apreciated. Thanks in advance. Patrick
Sent from my SGH-T999V using xda app-developers app
---------- Post added at 05:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:56 PM ----------
...I mean for Galaxy p6800 tablets
Sent from my SGH-T999V using xda app-developers app

The Note 2 Is Not Out-of-Date.

Now that CES is over, I still feel that the Note 2 is a strong contender 'till Q3 of this year.

Other than Chinese phones from ZTE, Huawei, and Lenovo with questionable hardware, software, and support, I saw nothing that was 5+" that I'd consider a N2 competitor. I think people bought the N2 for different reasons. I bought it because of the Wacom digitizer with palm rejection, S Pen, S Note, and the other functional enhancements Samsung's added. Nothing has been announced, leaked, or even rumored to compete with those features. For those that bought the N2 as a "giant phone" and nothing more there will be lots of newer phones with smaller and larger displays and higher PPI and faster SoCs out or announced in Q1 this year.

Note 2 was outdated as soon as it was released just like any other technology. And this thread since there is another just like it.
Sent from my GT-N7100

I dont think its outdated. None of the other phones have the added waacom digitiser and stylus afaik.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2

I love the Note 2 and it's in none way outdated. But I'll buy the Xperia Z
Pozdrav
Croatia1

croatia1 said:
I love the Note 2 and it's in none way outdated. But I'll buy the Xperia Z
Pozdrav
Croatia1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only reason why xperia is better- it is water prof, but still pretty much useless add. 1080p ress? Who needs it? On small screen 720p is more then enough and AMOLED >>> TFT for sure.
At the moment Note2 is still peace of art and definitely not out dated.

Barry you got a N2? whhhaaa?

@rbiter said:
Note 2 was outdated as soon as it was released just like any other technology. And this thread since there is another just like it.
Sent from my GT-N7100
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What!!!
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium

Samsung should come out with a very small smartphone. That way there will be a phone I'll want to buy to switch to when I want to go mountain biking. Use the Note 2 when I want productivity at my fingertips, and then the micro smartphone for when I want to be on the move. Something the size of the RazrM, possibly a little smaller and defiinitley thinner.

boodies said:
Barry you got a N2? whhhaaa?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. I was tired of bouncing between Sense on my phone and TW on my Note 10.1. I really like the features of the Note 10.1 and now have them in a handier size.

Wow. Note 2 owners with wee wee envy. The phone was outdated as soon as it was released. Still doesn't stop it from being one of the best and most desirable phones on the market. Later little girls.
Sent from my GT-N7100

el_roy1985 said:
Samsung should come out with a very small smartphone. That way there will be a phone I'll want to buy to switch to when I want to go mountain biking. Use the Note 2 when I want productivity at my fingertips, and then the micro smartphone for when I want to be on the move. Something the size of the RazrM, possibly a little smaller and defiinitley thinner.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. I have to put my note 2 in my bag with my water bottle and my one x (which is my music player).
Im looking at the xperia z to replace the hox as a secondary phone as long as it is a little more durable.
A note 2 and a mountain bike are a terrible combination haha
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium

el_roy1985 said:
Samsung should come out with a very small smartphone. That way there will be a phone I'll want to buy to switch to when I want to go mountain biking. Use the Note 2 when I want productivity at my fingertips, and then the micro smartphone for when I want to be on the move. Something the size of the RazrM, possibly a little smaller and defiinitley thinner.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
S3?
Oh snap! I don't have a witty tapatalk signature!

BarryH_GEG said:
Yep. I was tired of bouncing between Sense on my phone and TW on my Note 10.1. I really like the features of the Note 10.1 and now have them in a handier size.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad to hear that brother.

I will only replace my Note II with octa-core flexible display unbreakable super amoled 128 GB inbuilt memory 4gb ram phone in the future!
Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II

note 2 will out dated when. higher specs with 5.5 at least screen or more will come.if u agree prss thankx
---------- Post added at 11:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:04 AM ----------
i m not gonna replace my note 2 with galaxy s4 coz s4 has 5.0 inch screen.if it is 5.5 or more then i will replace otherwise no need to go small screen than note 2 if u agree press thanx

I don't see any phones on the market with much faster CPUs! Or with more RAM? Camera specs can be argued (more mpx doesn't mean better pictures). The only thing I can see as an upgrade in other phones is their 1080p displays. But I have a large battery. I have a stylus. I have a notification light. I have a removable battery, too! I have a big Samsung community behind me as well.
If you really feel like your device is outdated already then I think you have an issue with technology, and not the actual phone itself. if you really feel that your phone is outdated the moment it gets released then you must never feel content with anything you buy!
It's fast, and it has top specs if you ignore the 1080p display. I don't see any other phones with a wacom digitizer pen! I'd rather keep this display and the pen than have some over hyped 1080p display and feel like I have a GIANT PHONE.
I <3 my Note 2

zkyevolved said:
I don't see any phones on the market with much faster CPUs! Or with more RAM? Camera specs can be argued (more mpx doesn't mean better pictures). The only thing I can see as an upgrade in other phones is their 1080p displays. But I have a large battery. I have a stylus. I have a notification light. I have a removable battery, too! I have a big Samsung community behind me as well.
If you really feel like your device is outdated already then I think you have an issue with technology, and not the actual phone itself. if you really feel that your phone is outdated the moment it gets released then you must never feel content with anything you buy!
It's fast, and it has top specs if you ignore the 1080p display. I don't see any other phones with a wacom digitizer pen! I'd rather keep this display and the pen than have some over hyped 1080p display and feel like I have a GIANT PHONE.
I <3 my Note 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which is why I will only be upgrading to the note 3 as it will definitely have a 1080p screen
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2

I absolutely agree. CES 2013 did not lived upto my expectations. I was really expecting dome Phablet with real digitizer (that stick me to samsung).
Nothing noticable other then Huawei Acsend Mate exceeding Phablet Limits 6.1
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium

The only thing that can make the Note 2 outdated is the Note 3.

Prediction time ... when will we have a higher resolution Note 8?

I tried a nexus 7 and 10 before trying and keeping the Note 8. I love the size and feel, but do wish the resolution was a bit higher. 250 ppi would suffice.
So when will I get my wish? I actually don't care about the s pen. I'd love a fast, 4 core, high-res Tab 3 8. Go!

Note 8 only came out this year so I predict next year at the earliest.
Sent from my GT-N7100

It doesn't have to be a note though. A tab 3 variant or whatever.
I guess the new ipad mini would meet my requirements. Too bad it's a mac!

rumatt said:
It doesn't have to be a note though. A tab 3 variant or whatever.
I guess the new ipad mini would meet my requirements. Too bad it's a mac!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So..you're asking when an 8 inch, high PPI device is coming out? I'm guessing when the next iPad Mini hits.

I forgot who it was, but some company came out with a high res screen on a10" tablet with a Wacom digitizer, but if I remember right they are asking $699 for it. So there might be a reason we don't have high res screens.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 2

I'd rather have the S-Pen than a higher resolution screen. But I wouldn't mind exactly the same device with a 1080p screen, 32GB flash, and a newer processor.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 4

Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381

ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
God damn. You just triggered my gadget lust. That looks like a pretty nice machine.
Sent from my GT-N7100

ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice. But too big. 8-9" is ideal for me in my opinion.

If the rumors are right it looks like the answer is the Slate 8 pro, hopefully later this fall.

rumatt said:
If the rumors are right it looks like the answer is the Slate 8 pro, hopefully later this fall.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True but aside from the upgraded display I note there's nothing mentioned about a digitizer or price point.
Article here.
Still early I grant you but nothing there for me.

ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reviews I've read said it wasn't great.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk HD

I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 4

pnKK said:
I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I mostly agree with you, but at 189 I still notice it sometimes when reading ssmaller fonts. Mid to low 200's is enough for me.

pnKK said:
I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Technically, you are right. Realistically, the Galaxy S4 display spoiled me. Having said that, the Note 8 display is much better than my MacBook Pro for example, so it's nothing to sneeze at.
---------- Post added at 06:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:03 AM ----------
skeeterpro said:
True but aside from the upgraded display I note there's nothing mentioned about a digitizer or price point.
Article here.
Still early I grant you but nothing there for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And the thing appears to have a Tegra 4 SoC. After the POS that the Tegra 3 was (personal experience), I don't think I'll be touching a Tegra SoC again. Samsung or Qualcomm for me, seems like they can be trusted to deliver high performance consistently.

rumatt said:
I mostly agree with you, but at 189 I still notice it sometimes when reading ssmaller fonts. Mid to low 200's is enough for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think we all just need to enjoy our current devices, that is the reason why we bought them, and yes no one will be disappointed by a newer display with a higher ppi on next Note 8. But we really need more efficient energy consumption on these devices so we don't feel that stress when your juice run out and you really need the device.
sputnik767 said:
Technically, you are right. Realistically, the Galaxy S4 display spoiled me. Having said that, the Note 8 display is much better than my MacBook Pro for example, so it's nothing to sneeze at.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For me that display is not a reason to spend 600€ (Europe, doh... ) to upgrade from S3, if u have an older one, it's ok. So... everyone with their needs and budget.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 4

pnKK said:
I think we all just need to enjoy our current devices, that is the reason why we bought them, and yes no one will be disappointed by a newer display with a higher ppi on next Note 8. But we really need more efficient energy consumption on these devices so we don't feel that stress when your juice run out and you really need the device.
For me that display is not a reason to spend 600€ (Europe, doh... ) to upgrade from S3, if u have an older one, it's ok. So... everyone with their needs and budget.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. I came from the S3 to the S4 and the S3 display is excellent as well. But the S4 display is undeniably better, far more so than even the iPhone 5.

I have no issues paying more for a better note 8. I love my note but more flash memory 32 or 64gig would be nice and a higher res screen. Our screen looks great, its bright, colors and vibrant, and very clear but l can see the pixels and l would rather not.
Please samsung make us a PREMIUM 8inch tablet
Sent from my GT-N5110 using xda app-developers app

efanatic said:
I have no issues paying more for a better note 8. I love my note but more flash memory 32 or 64gig would be nice and a higher res screen. Our screen looks great, its bright, colors and vibrant, and very clear but l can see the pixels and l would rather not.
Please samsung make us a PREMIUM 8inch tablet
Sent from my GT-N5110 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Technically speaking, the current 8" Note is "premium" as there is nothing better on the market in the category. having said that, neither I nor would most people pay more money for an 8" tablet, considering that the Note 8 is already the most expensive one out there.

I know that's why l got the note but they could have done much much better. The note can be had for around $350 and sometime less. I would say $450 isn't out of reach for a kick butt 8inch note tablet. I know a few that would pay that

Galaxy note 3 video :(

http://news.yahoo.com/video/first-look-leather-look-samsung-061902612-cbs.html
LITTLE DISAPPOINTING HERE

Looks badass to me.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

i was specting at least, water proof, The new Sony Z1 looks tempting, the only thing holds me back is the big screen Note series :crying:

Very cool, soft touch back looks great, love the new S Pen features. Will be picking this up at launch, but it would've had to be truly terrible for me not to at this point.
yoniinfante said:
i was specting at least, water proof, The new Sony Z1 looks tempting, the only thing holds me back is the big screen Note series :crying:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You were expecting a phone with a context sensitive stylus slot to be waterproof? I mean, it'd be nice, but expecting?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 4

yoniinfante said:
http://news.yahoo.com/video/first-look-leather-look-samsung-061902612-cbs.html
LITTLE DISAPPOINTING HERE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have a Note2, why disappointing? So far looks like a software and size bump. Not worth it for most of us to upgrade unless it's the time for you, but I'm not disappointed. If my Note2 ever completely explodes I'll get a 3.
Sohebq has already started a thread about the release stuff btw.

onslaught86 said:
Very cool, soft touch back looks great, love the new S Pen features. Will be picking this up at launch, but it would've had to be truly terrible for me not to at this point.
You were expecting a phone with a context sensitive stylus slot to be waterproof? I mean, it'd be nice, but expecting?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i bet 2 months after Note 3 Active, dust and water proof comes out...

yoniinfante said:
http://news.yahoo.com/video/first-look-leather-look-samsung-061902612-cbs.html
LITTLE DISAPPOINTING HERE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I LOVE IT!!!!! I wanna see more. But touchwiz needs to change as soon as possible.

barondebxl said:
I LOVE IT!!!!! I wanna see more. But touchwiz needs to change as soon as possible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It’s finally got pop-up apps (vs. two sizable parallel windows) which the Note 10.1 has had since launch. They are so much more flexible and productive. TW doesn't look to have changed much but how it works, at least on the N3, seems to have been pretty heavily revised. The camera's huge so I'd assume some pretty trick stuff is going to be announced. Also, there are no speakers on the front or the back. Dual speakers (one on each side) maybe? We'll know soon.
P.S. - I hope it comes in brown.
The video's been pulled but here are some stills. I like the "leather look."
---------- Post added at 10:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 AM ----------
Yeah! The N3 has Qualcomm's RF360 which means it will support all available LTE bands. Unlocked N3's will work on any carrier worldwide and support LTE roaming (assuming it's provided by your carrier).

I really don't like it, and I'm a huge Samsung freak.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 4
---------- Post added at 07:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:24 PM ----------
However I didn't like the s4 either, but it grew on me.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 4

Please use the device upgrade/discussion sticky.

Full review Note 4

You be the judge. http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung-galaxy-note-4-hands-on/
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.

dligon said:
Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was hoping it would be waterproof. Not sure if I want the increase resolutions at the expense of battery life.

I'll stick with my Note 3.
Sent from my SM-N900A using Tapatalk

dligon said:
Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ha ha that would be a site. I'm with you. The screen is big enough for me.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Unless the bootloader can be unlocked I wont be buying another Samsung!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Premium HD app

jeraldbro said:
Unless the bootloader can be unlocked I wont be buying another Samsung!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you might as well get used to the bootloader never being unlocked. This is becoming the norm pretty soon you won't find any phones with a unlocked bootloader. The only reason I want it unlocked would be for customized kernel support for better battery life far as ROM I'm fine with stock with a little of the bloat taken off the top. Never understood the ones that buy the Note series and just turn it into a oversize S5 why get it when you don't have the s-pen function or use the s-pen?

Wow iSamsung!? That's more of a software update to the note 3 with a worse battery life. No thank you. My note 3 is better.

K-Alzwayed said:
Wow iSamsung!? That's more of a software update to the note 3 with a worse battery life. No thank you. My note 3 is better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with you totally, its more of a software update and more megapixels to the camera, I think all of that can be baked into our note 3, by our developers, not too exited about upgrading to the note 4, and I also expected water resistant.

Yup. With all the kickass devs we have here from Bri, RErick, Mega....and you count, yes, our note 3 is soon going to be a note 4 without the heartbeat sensor that I'd never use. Lol

dligon said:
Well you might as well get used to the bootloader never being unlocked. This is becoming the norm pretty soon you won't find any phones with a unlocked bootloader. The only reason I want it unlocked would be for customized kernel support for better battery life far as ROM I'm fine with stock with a little of the bloat taken off the top. Never understood the ones that buy the Note series and just turn it into a oversize S5 why get it when you don't have the s-pen function or use the s-pen?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On at&t they will always be locked. Same with verizon. Tmobile version wont be locked down. I boycotted sammy long ago. My next device will either be the xnomi mi4 or the nexus 6.

I'll pass. The Note 4 turned out like the S5. It's just a "plus" version with no major improvements. In some ways I feel the Note 3 is superior.

As has been said… same phone, minimal improvements. Unless the display is truly that much more impressive I can't justifiably use my two year upgrade to purchase an incremental improvement. With the snapdragon 810 around the corner in 2015 people would just be kicking themselves getting this hardware. Samsung is so bent on beating apple to the punch they shot themselves in the foot by not joining the 64 bit game on this hardware revision. I'm going to wait for android L and all of the things that come with 64 bit goodness.
As cool as the note edge looks, it looks like an expensive, flashy gimmick that will serve no real purpose other than being a footnote in the history of smartphone creation.
That being said, I still love my s pen, and will reserve my final judgments until I have seen them hands on but, like the S5, my first impression is one of thorough disappointment. Go home, samsung. You're drunk.

fix-this! said:
On at&t they will always be locked. Same with verizon. Tmobile version wont be locked down. I boycotted sammy long ago. My next device will either be the xnomi mi4 or the nexus 6.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why I'm probably getting the note 4 but I'm ditching att and going to tmobile. Ha ha
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

I love the metal and the screen!
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app

Richieboy67 said:
I love the medal and the screen!
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've always liked the metal on the phone too. Ever since I saw it on the iPhone.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

I had to fix my spelling.. Medal.. lol
Years ago I had this HTC clone that had a metal removable back and have always wanted something similar.
If I could get one of these under $700 unlocked I would grab it. As it is I'll most likely be going with the g3 for under $600.. Wish it was metal though.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app

Personally I see the Note 4 as big a step forward over the Note 3 as it was over the Note 2 (which IMO was considerable). I've owned the Note 2 and Note 3. It fixes the weak areas of the Note 3 and frankly seems to be a phone with no compromises.
- the metal frame alone is a big deal to me - I HATE the chrome plastic frame of the Note 3. Button feel is supposed to be much better as well.
- the Note 3 screen is good but not great. It's still a touch dim compared to the best LCDs and whites are not quite white yet. If the S5 LTE-A 1440p screen is any indicator, both these areas will be noticeably better than the Note 3 screen. And battery life on the LTE-A with the S805 didn't decrease at all vs. the normal S5 with the same battery size.
- The camera needed to get better - the Note 3 is not great indoors and bad in low light. I end up using my wife's iPhone in low light situations.
- Personally I like the fingerprint scanner (even if it's not as good as TouchID) since my work enforces a password unlock to use it for BYOD.

I'm definitely disappointed. I was hoping for the same water resistant goodness of the s5, and I'm thoroughly dumbfounded as to why Sammy left it out both versions of the new Notes. Love the outward design as far as the metal goes, though. This was more update than upgrade by far. Consider the ball dropped.
---------- Post added at 02:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:04 AM ----------
And they could've pushed the 3rd side of the Note edge's bezel back a mm or two... Seems too slim for me

There is a sticky to discuss other devices
Thanks
FNSM