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Hi,
I am considering the Arc to be my next phone but I would like to know about its video capabilities. In nearly all HTC phones, when recording in low light conditions/at night, the camera tries to compensate the lack of light and this tends to make the video lose frames and to be really choppy. Does the Arc perform better and does it skips frames in bad lighting conditions?
Thanks!!
Videos are great on the Arc, I'd say better than on HTC.
Didn't test it on my Arc yet but in youtube are smooth videos from the Arc.
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Final5k said:
Hi,
I am considering the Arc to be my next phone but I would like to know about its video capabilities. In nearly all HTC phones, when recording in low light conditions/at night, the camera tries to compensate the lack of light and this tends to make the video lose frames and to be really choppy. Does the Arc perform better and does it skips frames in bad lighting conditions?
Thanks!!
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Most of HTC phones have really ****ty cameras, actually the worse on the market.
Don't even wonder. Arc is another planet.
best cam of HTC is at Sensation, and is one of the best on the market now... i think
HTC Sensation is a class lower compared to Xperia Arc - not only with regard to the camera.
Dualcore is not everything.
shtreber said:
best cam of HTC is at Sensation, and is one of the best on the market now... i think
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Even mobile-review proves different.
GSMArena has a comparison of the LG Optimus 2X, HTC Sensation and Samsung Galaxy S2 which also features various other handsets at different junctures.
When comparing still image and video capture, they also throw in the Arc for good measure.
Draw your own conclusions.
If u own 1 HTC, then you own all off em because they all look the same. That's why I bought the ARC.
I agree, HTC phones are one class lower than SonyEricsson in terms of build quality, design and phone technology.
By just comparing the phone battery technology, all their phones are still using Lithium Ion Battery while SonyEricsson's phone are using Lithium Polymer and everyone should know that there are more benefits for Lithium Polymer over Lithium Ion Batteries.
Hey thanks for all your replies. I think I'll have to try one at the shop to get a better idea on the device itself before deciding. Still, the camera seems to be the only thing that appeals to me - the screen is a bit small (I've own 4.3 hd2/desire hd and now a 5 inch dell streak). Will definitely have to play with it - still the Arc seems to be a very sexy phone!
Thanks all!
Some of these replies look quite fanboyish.. there's a reason HTC sells so many phones..more than SE atleast
Anyway, add me to the SE fanboy list Until I get bored of Timescape I will stick to SE
There are 2 simple reasons why htc have and still do sell more phones than SE....
1. They've been in the android business since the start..
2. Until now SE's android phones have been relatively poor, and therefore SE had a bad rep.
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I have a last question : If the zoom function is used while recording a video, does the camera automatically auto-focuses the video to make it clearer/sharper, or is the video blurry when zoom is used like in every phone model? Thanks!!
Final5k said:
I have a last question : If the zoom function is used while recording a video, does the camera automatically auto-focuses the video to make it clearer/sharper, or is the video blurry when zoom is used like in every phone model? Thanks!!
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When you're capturing videos, you can't zoom in
Hope this helps you
007Arc said:
When you're capturing videos, you can't zoom in
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Oh now i realised why all videos on youtube don't have any zoom on them. Thank you very much for the infos.
I've currently got an Xperia Arc and a HTC Desire S. The camera on the Arc is superior to that on the HTC as is video recording. I've actually been a bit shocked by how poor the HTC Desire S camera is for pictures although a friend with the new Sensation says that it has a great camera, he does however qualify that by going on to say it is great "for a HTC camera" which to me, says it all.
Maybe these thread can help you to decide.
Post Pictures Taken With The Xperia Arc - LT15i/a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589
Post Pictures Taken With Your Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131274
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ucubz said:
Maybe these thread can help you to decide.
Post Pictures Taken With The Xperia Arc - LT15i/a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589
Post Pictures Taken With Your Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131274
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wow.. there's no comparison! Sensation's camera is quite average...
Hi,
I have the HTC Desire Z and I would like to get a 2nd phone.
There are only 2 options for me: The Arc or the Desire S. I think both HTC and SE are top manufactures in terms of design and build quality, the rest are just iS**t clones
I like the Desire S because of the uni-body aluminum design, but I think The Arc is nicer. I am a little bit concerned about the quality of the plastic on the Arc's back, an also i don't like the size ( 3,7 seams ideal for me).
I don't care about the camera, but I'm sure SE's is much better.
A interview of the engineers behind the xperia zu posted on sony's blog..
What experience does “X-Reality for mobile” offer?
Kosaka: ”X-Reality for mobile” incorporates the knowhow of the super resolution technology “X-Reality,” in Sony’s BRAVIA TVs, into mobile devices.
X-Reality™ for mobile analyzes each image and reproduces lacking pixels to optimize quality for the sharpest videos. It analyzes elements depending on the scene and adjusts them based on pattern, outline and colour composition. It strengthens subtle patterns and accurately portrays their detailed feel, as well as reinforces bold outlines. It also enhances colour composition, vividly reproducing hard-to-display natural colours
You mean “X-Reality for mobile” can recreate the data that was once there?
Kosaka: ”X-Reality for mobile” is based on the “X-Reality,” incorporated into Sony’s BRAVIA TVs. However, it is unrealistic to use the exact same video processing chip found LCD TVs in a smartphone for various reasons such as power consumption. The distance that users view smartphones at also differs significantly from LCD TVs. This is why we developed and incorporated a super resolution processing technology, unique to Sony, that is ideal for smartphones including our new Xperia Z Ultra.
The super resolution processing of “X-Reality for mobile” analyzes videos one frame at a time, estimating and complementing any lost information. At the same time, it combines suitable video processes for each frame and applies them. Such video process patterns are stored in a database, and the most suitable pattern is selected for each various scene from the database and applied, thereby reproducing video quality infinitely closer to the original.
The super resolution technology, which estimates any lost information from videos and restores it by combining various processes, can be said to be a fruit of Sony’s video technologies. Each and every one of the process patterns stored in the database has been created by an internal development team in Sony, operating on high-performance workstations. By storing complex super resolution processing in a database, “X-Reality for mobile” enables you to enjoy high-quality video reproduction real-time that would otherwise take a few days.
With the adoption of the high-performance Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 800 quad-core processor for its CPU and graphic chip, Xperia Z Ultra has made it possible to perform super resolution processing that had been difficult to do thus far.
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This is where xda chips in
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msc3169 said:
This is where xda chips in
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I hope they do it...but if it is really dependent on the snpdrgn 800 then i dont even they will be able to do it
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if sony wants the z to have it the z will have it
its all a question if sony wants
That's true - if sony wants to, they will give it. But there are some facts to be said - the Xperia ZU that is now launching hasn't got the X-reality onboard but will get it with an software update. So for this part is seems that the X-reality is software dependent. Which is a plus in considering that Xperia Z might get it as an software update as well.
Secondly, with the Honami leak of apps I tried a mod with X-reality on my Xperia Z - and you could really see that it worked cuz if you quickly zoomed in on a photo you saw the image getting sharper one area at a time. So as far as I'm conserned - S4 pro chip has no trouble handling X-reality. And I didn't notice any more battery drain than otherwise..
So yes, in my view it's only really a question of if sony wants to give it to Xperia Z.
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That's true - if sony wants it, they will give it. But there are some facts to be said - the Xperia ZU that is now launching hasn't got the X-reality anboard but will get it with an software update. So for this part is seems that the X-reality is software dependent. Which is a plus in considering that Xperia Z might get it as an software update.
Secondly, with the Honami leak of apps I tried a mod with X-reality on my Xperia Z - and you could really see that it worked cuz if you quickly zoomed in on a photo you saw the image getting sharper one area at a time. So as far as I'm conserned - S4 pro chip has no trouble handling X-reality. And I didn't notice any more battery drain than otherwise..
So yes, in my view it's only really a question of if sony wants to give it to Xperia Z.
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i agree that it worked but it only worked in images it didnt work at all in videos..theres some super resolution technology used by x-reality for videos which improves the quality besides the normal color sharpness etc stuff
Ame123 said:
i agree that it worked but it only worked in images it didnt work at all in videos..theres some super resolution technology used by x-reality for videos which improves the quality besides the normal color sharpness etc stuff
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Can you really say that you can see superresolution in videos? I don't think so. But from what I can tell, video looked super awesome with X-reality for me. I saw difference between on/off X-reality. Was it just BME2 behind or was it super resoultion? I don't think that anyone can tell that just by viewing a video because it's not the same as in pictures to see it happening before you.
If I was a Sony executive of anykind, I'd vote for to give Xperia Z/ZL/ZR X-reality even if had to be limited in it's functions just to keep the software among 2013 devices equal (and to stop the hype in media/XDA )
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Can you really say that you can see superresolution in videos? I don't think so. But from what I can tell, video looked super awesome with X-reality for me. I saw difference between on/off X-reality. Was it just BME2 behind or was it super resoultion? I don't think that anyone can tell that just by viewing a video because it's not the same as in pictures to see it happening before you.
If I was a Sony executive of anykind, I'd vote for to give Xperia Z/ZL/ZR X-reality even if had to be limited in it's functions just to keep the software among 2013 devices equal (and to stop the hype in media/XDA )
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lol...u saw difference in videos with x-reality on...stop faking..even the developers who made the x-reality mod agree that its not working on videos then how could u see the differrence?
...perform super resolution processing that had been difficult
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This is what i took out of the article , it clearly states its only "super resolution processing" and that cpus before werent capablepreviously, yeah sure the s800 is 30-40% more powerful, but that still leaves the fact that the s4 is still half capable of processing it, its just whether now they want to implement it in ONLY their new phone, so it looks like a new feature specific to that range is anybodies clue. but thats how i see it , interpretations may differ
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lol...u saw difference in videos with x-reality on...stop faking..even the developers who made the x-reality mod agree that its not working on videos then how could u see the differrence?
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Who's faking anything? Dont be a douchebag. Like I said - how can anyone tell if it's doing super resolution in a video or not? The difference that I mentioned previosly was to the overal video and I even said dont know if it was just BME or if it was X-reality.
Besides - 1080p in a 5inch display - who needs super-resolution? If you got a crappy video to watch it's still gonna look crappy.
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Who's faking anything? Dont be a douchebag.
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Ok then post some screenshots showing the difference with x-reality on and off
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Ame123 said:
Ok then post some screenshots showing the difference with x-reality on and off
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look i'm on stock now with the new firmware. If you want or need to pick on someone that's your problem.
Sidd_9 said:
look i'm on stock now with the new firmware. If you want or need to pick on someone that's your problem.
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As your wish but i dont need to check anything as i too used the mod and theres was not a single effect on video it just worked on images in the album app..
DxOMark Mobile Photo: TEST SONY XPERIA Z2
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony...ed-model-takes-first-place-in-Mobile-rankings
And Qualcom announced S808 and 810 CPU based on 64 bit architecture.
Z1 is great, Z2 is awesome...
We could only imagine what will Sony present with Z3 or Z4 (or whatever they named them).
Sony will rule in Android world.
If they add navigation bar control through settings UI - I could leave without root on something like Z3/Z4.
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funky0308 said:
And Qualcom announced S808 and 810 CPU based on 64 bit architecture.
Z1 is great, Z2 is awesome...
We could only imagine what will Sony present with Z3 or Z4 (or whatever they named them).
Sony will rule in Android world.
If they add navigation bar control through settings UI - I could leave without root on something like Z3/Z4.
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Better than pureview? Z1 third best camera phone?I something is not right here..
CandyAndy said:
Better than pureview? Z1 third best camera phone?I something is not right here..
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I thought the same...
CandyAndy said:
Better than pureview? Z1 third best camera phone?I something is not right here..
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Don't know why you quoted me.
What I said was referring only to Xperia.
Z1, Z2 then next, device that will come this or next year.
I'm saying Z1 has best camera...
And last part... See .that... Sony will rule - so, really don't know where did you found that.
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Better than pureview? Z1 third best camera phone?I something is not right here..
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If you read their assessment the tests are done to compare overall camera performance and not just image quality of the photos, they also include video performance as well. The Z2 and the pureview have the same score in image quality but the Z2 trumps the pureview in aspects such as exposure and autofocus, which are all accounted for in the final score. I'm no camera expert but DxOMark are supposedly one of the best in camera reviews, the Z2 is looking even more promising then ever
Highly impressive that it best the pureview. Does waterproofing a camera effect it's performance? If so, then it's even more impressive.
I tend to agree that camera performance should include some measure of accessibility. If a camera can only take great shots in manual mode after fiddling with 17 settings in perfect light on days you got lucky with the old lady and a promotion at work it isn't as useful day to day as one where you can just press the button and get a lesser but decent shot to me.
What are your Wish list for the upcoming Lollipop release?
For me, I'd realy like to see the 4k / 120FPS (Timeshift Video) to be included. It would be nice to have this in the stock features.
As for the rest, I'm already getting more than 48h on a charge, so battery life is not an issue.
What do YOU wich to have on the Lollipop release?
Pumping Bass on headphones without tweaking the rom
I want updated UI (Xperia Z3 UI) for Z1, this would be awesome. And I would like to use 120fps timeshift and 4K recording as stock in our phones (I know they won't do that). AND A NO FORCE CLOSING CAMERA!!!
incoming calls
Do not intrusive incoming call on using.
Double tap to wake, i guess. ?
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improve camera performance
the camera performance need to be improved. the camera hardware on z1 is great, but sadly under perform by it's weak software. with better and optimize software, i believe the camera on z1 can be on par with this year's current model
yeah..the camera needs improvments. and 4k and timeshift would be awesome
any news about when we will get the update?
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amey2606 said:
Double tap to wake, i guess. ?
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Not possible with Z1 panel...
As for me i would like:
better camera (4k, 120fps video etc)
music quality improvements
walkman app integration with sony smartwatch 3 because i dont use google music...
stereo audio speakers (using both speakers like on Z2+)
smart calling features
ART
and ofc what everyone wants, easy root method because its gonna be done anyway
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lollipop only runs on ART, so they don't have any choice on this!
Another vote here for improved camera performance. I think the stock Z1 camera has very poor results.
There is talk of raw camera output in Lollipop, so hopefully we get that.
I agree, with tweaks of latest roms, battery life is ok, and I'm happy with the UI, so just give us decent camera results, please.
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You guys know 4k and double tap will unlikely come to Z1 right?
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I don't need 4k since it's only for show off now. Slow mo videos too. I think it would be better if they just improved the camera performance and picture quality (taking advantage of the new apis) and add RAW shooting mode. As for UI Lollipop looks stunning so I think a GUI close to that would be perferct (sony's ui looks really outdated now). We'll see what we will get in a month when z3 recieves the update.
Better battery life!
Im sure that the z1 do much better with some tweaking and stuff.
And less bloatware
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lollipop only runs on ART, so they don't have any choice on this!
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yah realised that today too, oh well atleast we got it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB4_D4Rtn6w leaked hands-on video watch now : p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kk5Vns62Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OweKmtNUhsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p826hy-QtKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLmFvMrgoQ8
dayyum. my z3+ dual only 1 month+ old
Lack of fingerprint sensor is the best Z3+ feature for me Z5 premium looks interesting. I wish there was a Z5 ultra with that kind of crazy resolution.
Sony's best android phone! 23mp camera
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So looking at this
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/09/02/sony-xperia-z5/
Is it the same as Z3+ apart from a better processor, finger print and better cam ?
When do you think it will be released as my main question is do i wait for this or go for the Z3+ ? Do people think finger print is going to catch on and be good for anything other than unlocking your screen?
I think Z5 camera will be better. I for Z5.
From a student of photography there wont be much in the extra 3 megapixels unless your doing some high res editing - for taking pics of your first pint on holiday or selfies with the mrs it wouldn't be much different.
I have heard people saying that this processor is no good. Any truth to that?
The difference in the camera isn't just that it's a few megapixels higher in value. The camera sensor is new, and made by Sony for Sony. Judging from what's been said the lenses used will be better, it's got a better aperture etc too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyZvpI5dy4A leaked hands-on video watch now : p
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The video has been removed... Any idea where to watch?
The press conference is already over, here are some vids
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=xperia+z5+hands-on
Initial impressions are positive. The whole lineup is great. Compact will have insane GPU performance.
Z5 will be mine hopefully very soon.
Nobody worried about the 810?
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Jammol said:
Nobody worried about the 810?
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It seems to me the heat issues that initially appeared on the 810 have been forgotten by many, I can't tell if this is because of the 2.1 revision of the processor fixing the issues or if as some claim, the issues were not that bigger deal and other handsets with different cpu´s also suffer similar issues.
Let´s hope that if there are any issues, sony manages to patch them somehow with heat absorbing materials or any other solution that doesn't rev down the cpu clock.
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Nobody worried about the 810?
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Nope. Heating seems alright, 10+ minutes of 4K recording is pretty good.
Hope it comes to Tmobile.....
Tommy-Geenexus said:
Initial impressions are positive. The whole lineup is great. Compact will have insane GPU performance.
Z5 will be mine hopefully very soon.
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I was expecting the type c port is used on this phone, specs show fast charging is included.