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Xperia Z vs HTC ONE

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Xperia Z
Thinner
Bigger Screen
Water Proof
Dust Proof
Multitasking Button
microSD, up to 32 GB
DragonTrail Glass
13MP Camera
HTC one
IR Blaster
Higher PPI (469)
Stereo Speakers
UltraPixel Sensor
Built-in Amplifier
Optical Image Stabilization
64GB Storage
HDR Front Camera
Snapdragon 600
Metal Exterior
Viewing Angles
Contrast
Sunlight Visiblity

HTC One is superior in almost all aspects, except no expandable memory slot and the design is not as elegant.
Really annoys me that Sony still haven't released the Xperia Z and all these more powerful phones are coming out now.

this shouting match is already going on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155877&page=7

- Xperia: dragontrail hasn't been confirmed by Sony, so we can't really know.
- Built-in amplifier ? All devices with sound output have built-in amplifiers.
- I'm not sure if UltraPixel sensor isn't just higher ISO setting by default, i don't trust marketing like that.
- Xperia also supports 64gb micro cards.
PS. We already have a thread like that - and it draws flame wars etc.

I guess you won't notice a big difference of the screen size...the 5 inch displays of the Sony has to show the buttons at the bottom. On the HTC One they don't "count" to the display.
I haven't decided yet, but I still favor the Xperia Z

Akiainavas said:
- Xperia: dragontrail hasn't been confirmed by Sony, so we can't really know.
- Built-in amplifier ? All devices with sound output have built-in amplifiers.
- I'm not sure if UltraPixel sensor isn't just higher ISO setting by default, i don't trust marketing like that.
- Xperia also supports 64gb micro cards.
PS. We already have a thread like that - and it draws flame wars etc.
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Ultrapixel is just a marketing term the sensor is as big as the sensor in the z but has far less pixels, which is for lots of reasons better, especially for a phone, coupled with de IS it is bound to be better than the z. I think it is a smart move from htc especially for a phone.

The htc one is absolutely gorgeous, the best looking phone I've ever seen, extremely premium aluminium uni body, with what will be the best screen on any phone this year. Having played with an xperia z in store, with its awful washed out screen, average camera, and a build and look that strangely doesn't feel particularly premium in real life, i'm glad I didn't pre order the xperia z

Akiainavas said:
- Xperia: dragontrail hasn't been confirmed by Sony, so we can't really know.
- Built-in amplifier ? All devices with sound output have built-in amplifiers.
- I'm not sure if UltraPixel sensor isn't just higher ISO setting by default, i don't trust marketing like that.
- Xperia also supports 64gb micro cards.
PS. We already have a thread like that - and it draws flame wars etc.
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When i say bult in amplifier I just mean its better than the one in the S3
Officaly the Xperia Z only supports 16GB

Why don't you add the Galaxy S 4 to the topic?
These topic's are so stupid, technology nowadays is going so fast... Each device you're fighting for these days will be outdated in a few months.
Just choose a device and live with it until you can get a newer one.
SO WHAT'S THE POINT!??

only supports 16GB?
get your facts right... :victory:

Akiainavas said:
- Xperia: dragontrail hasn't been confirmed by Sony, so we can't really know.
- Built-in amplifier ? All devices with sound output have built-in amplifiers.
- I'm not sure if UltraPixel sensor isn't just higher ISO setting by default, i don't trust marketing like that.
- Xperia also supports 64gb micro cards.
PS. We already have a thread like that - and it draws flame wars etc.
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Saikyo_San said:
only supports 16GB?
get your facts right... :victory:
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sorry yea its officially 32GB
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php

The HTC One also has infinity glass which reduces glare and is resistant to scratching.

Maedhros said:
The HTC One also has infinity glass which reduces glare and is resistant to scratching.
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HTC is also much better in dropping marketing terms
any way probably a better phone.

I honestly really like both phones. There will always be advantages to one phone over the other, but honestly (unless you are a complete pessimist) both phones should be able to keep you happy for around 1-1.5 years minimum.
The thing that I want to understand is the HTC One Capacitive Buttons. You have home and back... but where is menu? Menu is probably one of the most essential buttons in android. Hopefully (this is what I would do) hitting home once would bring up menu, and double tap will go home. Something along those lines. Nothing I am really worried about anyways (AOKP will fix it haha)
I do not really think UI is something to get in a heated debate about... once custom firmware hits you can put whatever you want on. Personally I am going to rock stock AOKP on any phone I get.
Same goes for storage.... Sure XZ has a micro SD slot, but there aren't any micro SDXC cards bigger than 64gb (and might not be for a while), so really the difference between the HTC One and XZ is 64GB vs 80GB at maximum.
The only real criticism I have for Sony is the delayed North American release for the Z and especially the ZL. HTC revealed the phone today and will release in a Month. Xperia ZL was revealed in mid January and wont come out till April. There is no point to reveal an amazing new phone and then release it once it is old news. Shame on Sony for that.
Both phones are awesome, just go for the one you prefer.
Battery life is something I am finding more and more confusing with Android phones. How is it that the HTC Butterfly gets a better battery life test during video streaming than the Xperia Z by over an hour, yet has a 13% smaller battery, same processor,same GPU, and same screen resolution. This seems completely counter-intuitive.
Now for my personal opinion. I prefer the outer design and features of the ZL over the HTC One (I like the idea of as little bezel as possible), however I prefer the One screen and speakers. Not going to make any decisions till the Galaxy S4 comes out.

Just saw camera samples of "ultrapixel" phone... seriously not convinced (they have just made photos from old sensor clear)...compared http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-first-samples-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/# this snap with my old 5mp carl zeiss sensor in nokia n97( similar shot i took of my watch back in 2009)... and BOOM! HTC has gone back 4 years
maybe it will be better if they had released 8MP with ultrapixel... obviously pixels will not remain big and so called ultra pixel will lose its meaning...
well in long run when reviews come out this may not pay well for HTC.
.... happily go with XZ ...
benchmarks are only 5-10% better and that too only due to higher clock CPU .... i m not convinced with snapdragon 600 too .... it did nothing brilliant... over s4 pro... (i dont know if it saves more power)
but then obviously its my view of the summary... lets see what happens... XZ has its own flaws too.

Do you guys really like the UI ? Can't say i like it... especially the drawer. In this aspect Sony's UI is much better for me ( if they got rid of those hideous grey rectangles in the drawer - it'd be perfect for me as far as Android can go, and in terms of UI i'm a big fan of Windows Phone's consistent, simple and clear UI )
nikhiltanwar said:
Just saw camera samples of "ultrapixel" phone... seriously not convinced (they have just made photos from old sensor clear)...compared http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-first-samples-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/# this snap with my old 5mp carl zeiss sensor in nokia n97( similar shot i took of my watch back in 2009)... and BOOM! HTC has gone back 4 years
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Hmm... they're not bad, but certainly nothing "ultra" here. Let's wait for some more camera tests.

nikhiltanwar said:
Just saw camera samples of "ultrapixel" phone... seriously not convinced (they have just made photos from old sensor clear)...compared http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-first-samples-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/# this snap with my old 5mp carl zeiss sensor in nokia n97( similar shot i took of my watch back in 2009)... and BOOM! HTC has gone back 4 years
maybe it will be better if they had released 8MP with ultrapixel... obviously pixels will not remain big and so called ultra pixel will lose its meaning...
well in long run when reviews come out this may not pay well for HTC.
.... happily go with XZ ...
benchmarks are only 5-10% better and that too only due to higher clock CPU .... i m not convinced with snapdragon 600 too .... it did nothing brilliant... over s4 pro... (i dont know if it saves more power)
but then obviously its my view of the summary... lets see what happens... XZ has its own flaws too.
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I think it's gonna be more than 5-10%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=floH0ASIglU
Don't know which to chose myself. I think maybe if the One has good battery life, I'll go with it.

nikhiltanwar said:
Just saw camera samples of "ultrapixel" phone... seriously not convinced (they have just made photos from old sensor clear)...compared http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-first-samples-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/# this snap with my old 5mp carl zeiss sensor in nokia n97( similar shot i took of my watch back in 2009)... and BOOM! HTC has gone back 4 years
maybe it will be better if they had released 8MP with ultrapixel... obviously pixels will not remain big and so called ultra pixel will lose its meaning...
well in long run when reviews come out this may not pay well for HTC.
.... happily go with XZ ...
benchmarks are only 5-10% better and that too only due to higher clock CPU .... i m not convinced with snapdragon 600 too .... it did nothing brilliant... over s4 pro... (i dont know if it saves more power)
but then obviously its my view of the summary... lets see what happens... XZ has its own flaws too.
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I think they are quite good, for a phone hardly any noise, but still a phone no matter how cool the sensor tech (and indeed this is just going back to basics nothing new going on) the lens still sucks, if the lens suck the photo quality sucks it's simple. really great photo's on a phone is just not going to happen (if the phone needs to be thin)
It has the same GPU as the s4 pro, it is a marginal update, maybe it will perform better in some cases. the 800 series will be a different beast.
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Maedhros said:
The HTC One also has infinity glass which reduces glare and is resistant to scratching.
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I heard z has universe glass
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vapotrini said:
I think it's gonna be more than 5-10%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=floH0ASIglU
Don't know which to chose myself. I think maybe if the One has good battery life, I'll go with it.
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summary here :
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-benchmark-scores-are-here-ready-to-blow-your-mind/
looks more like a overclocking advantage except for quadrant

Sony Xperia Z2 vs iPhone 5s vs Lumia 1520 low-light camera comparison

Really happy with this test , showing the excellent low light capabilities of the Xperia Z2,
Here:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NKTYPBuGH4

That's amazing
Hope the camera will impressive as in the show when I use it later

Wow
Just one word, Wow!

Ok wait i'm speachless now! THIS JUST SMASHED THE NOKIA AND I****5S

As a Z1 owner this makes me really happy. Both have the same camera, there's no reason why ours shouldn't be improved to be like the Z2's!

I think there is some NFC trick going around. See that plastic sticker on the box?

^ Are u joking? I doubt that they would be so stupid and cheat there, reviews would find that out really fast.

nikola1970 said:
^ Are u joking? I doubt that they would be so stupid and cheat there, reviews would find that out really fast.
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Not a fair comparison. I have owned the 5S and 1520. Use a Note 3. The 1520 would still take a better or as good as shot if it was allowed to focus properly and not have the focus light covered
Not saying the Z2 will be poor just adding some balance.

Mmm.. maybe those box is made for the z2 showoff
Maybe after released to the market, there will be a better camera comparison. But I still love the z2 rather than 5s or the nokia or the s5

Something is very suspicious about this test. I don't know what they're doing, but I would not expect that dramatic of a difference with the Z2 camera in reality.

People need to understand how ISO, shutter speed and aperture work before making judgement. Unless you're just gonna use it for selfies in auto-mode... in which case, who gives a crap.

Itaintrite said:
People need to understand how ISO, shutter speed and aperture work before making judgement. Unless you're just gonna use it for selfies in auto-mode... in which case, who gives a crap.
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EXACTLY! What people don't understand is that the shutter speed and ISO can be manually adjusted on the Lumia to take some very impressive low light shots that would never even be visible on the almighty 5S.

Not a very good comparison, we'll see what happens in real life. But still... suggesting NFC trickery with the sticker on the box sounds a little bit far-fetched...

You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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SuperMane said:
I think there is some NFC trick going around. See that plastic sticker on the box?
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Really? you think NFC was used here and it wasn't showed on the screen that NFC was used, how stupid can you be?
and doesn't 1520 support NFC too? and We all clearly saw that the flash is off on all three devices.
gavinfabl said:
Not a fair comparison. I have owned the 5S and 1520. Use a Note 3. The 1520 would still take a better or as good as shot if it was allowed to focus properly and not have the focus light covered
Not saying the Z2 will be poor just adding some balance.
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Hypocrite, I clearly myself sometimes don't like the photo quality on Z1 cause it can do better than that and it's all with software issue and I compared 1520 with Xperia Z1 and It showed Xperia Z1 is better.
CBaSS736 said:
EXACTLY! What people don't understand is that the shutter speed and ISO can be manually adjusted on the Lumia to take some very impressive low light shots that would never even be visible on the almighty 5S.
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This test was done on fully auto not the manual mode, I know if it was taken on manual mode Xperia Z2 might not do well yet it will have some decent pictures, Remember that SA mode isn't bad all the time. It takes some great shots time to time.

What a shot!

aliHTCDHD said:
You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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well that test is kinda strange for sure but flash clearly wasnt used - you can even see the disabled flash symbol in that video

I've re-watched the video and I now understand how it did better but I will wait for comparisons by tech sites. For me all Sony cameras on xperias have been rubbish so I will wait. I don't expect it to beat One/2 or 1020 pureview in low light but we'll see.
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aliHTCDHD said:
You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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Flash was turned off... you can clearly see that on the screen. However ridiculous the test might be - suggesting Sony rigged it with NFC or hidden/modified icon to conceal the use of flash is just as ridiculous...
This test it still useless though. Real photos are what matters and we will know more in the weeks to come.

what is you most looking forward to function for sony xperia z5?

what is you most looking forward to function for sony xperia z5?

I have the Z3c going to the Z5c, just hoping the camera is better in low light.

RCizzle65 said:
I have the Z3c going to the Z5c, just hoping the camera is better in low light.
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I have a Z3 currently. If I will be upgrading, it will be the Z5 or Z5 compact. That premium version is hilariously huge and 4K gimmick is too farfetched. The power button is what I like about the new Z5. Features I am looking for is a big improvement on the camera, since it theoretically has an improved sensor. No pink spots on gray background please. I will wait for reviews before I bite--made a mistake buying the Z3 immediately for its camera back then when it first came out.

Camera and fingerprint!

King p1n said:
Camera and fingerprint!
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+1
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Being able to use the timeshift camera function and the dual pipes keeping the phone cool whilst taking pictures, also hope the improved camera module. I am upgrading from a Z1

An even better battery performance. Cause I wanna buy the premium and I'm a little bit afraid of the 4k screens battery consumption.
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I like that they have added option of selecting MP in SuperiorAuto. And ofcourse camera and fingerprint sensor.

Z6 for me. I am gonna wait till they improve in camera software. Cause they don't seem to be doing well in low light yet.

chesterr said:
Z6 for me. I am gonna wait till they improve in camera software. Cause they don't seem to be doing well in low light yet.
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They did good until they introduced the high 12800 ISO to compensate for the lack of OIS. It brightens the photos but it's blurry as hell.

Do you guys think development will be good for this phone? I had the Z3 but because of all the issues with the DRM keys and such i got put of and got an S6. The Sony was a brilliant phone so I do regret it a bit. I am very much considering getting this. Just wondering what peoples thoughts where.

For me it's definitely the camera. But i'm still waiting for the official start. After that I will read all the tests and then we will see if the camera is so good as they say.

Official font selector... it's only available to Japanese models/font, though.

I'm looking for speed and a fix for priority sound settings that doesn't work properly on the Z.
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Camera and waterproofing. Gotta have that waterproofing for all the outdoor adventuring I do.

I hope the battery and camera better

Taking videos, of course! That stabilizer better be worth it!
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Z5 Compact a joke?

Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.

Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.

supercakefish said:
Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.
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I don't think he's specifically talking about the specs of the phone, just that the camera still sucks.
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But I can't think of any <5" phone that can compete camera-wise (except the iPhone 6S)?
And I think we should wait for more photo samples to appear before we take final judgement. Most of these early photo samples are using non-final software.
Here's a review that says the camera is the best in class:
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ria-z5-compact-review-best-smaller-smartphone

Hate to point out the obvious but every new phone that comes is an incremental improvement over its predecessor. Look at the iPhone, people(fools) queue for hours to be first to get the new model with 10% faster cpu, 10% bigger screen, 10% more pixels on the cmos sensor, and 20% less battery power. How i chuckle when i see iphone 6 owners, like junkies desperately looking for their next power fix! But, i digress.
A jack of all trades is a master of none. It is after all, a phone. It is not meant to be a world class, low light camera. My first camera phone was 0.3megapix. I thought it was pretty damn cool to have a camera at all. People just take it for granted nowadays. You want good low light photos, buy a camera. You know, them things you cant make phone calls on!

RiTCHiE007 said:
Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.
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The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.

kitch9 said:
The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.
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Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.

RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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Ok bro....

You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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kitch9 said:
Ok bro....
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Brothers love, eey?

RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.

wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?

willumpie82 said:
wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?
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its not flaming its the truth but some just cant handle it.

bubimir13 said:
I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.
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Yes the camera on the z3c was worse then on the z5c but when you look at the pictures taken with a z5c you will see blurry edges and its almost impossible to make awesome macro shots. So even tho this camera is a bit better it still cant mess with other high ends like note 5 or LG g4 that also uses a sony sensor so thats why i think this z5c is kinda a joke. But if sony doesn't fix all these problems like laggy OS then this will be my last sony phone.

If you really think the performance is as bad as you say you should properly try another vendor! In my experience, they are at least as bad and some a lot worse..
Honestly, I would prefer a smaller Nexus, and might even go for the 5X despite the size.. Nexus device are best in performance (os lag eg), the rest are catching up lately!
You do know that the standard resolution in the app is set to 8M, right?.. I did read its better at that res, but you should maybe try and change it, it goes up to 23 you know..
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supercakefish said:
You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.

RiTCHiE007 said:
Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.
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Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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supercakefish said:
Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?

RiTCHiE007 said:
No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?
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Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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supercakefish said:
Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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Yea guess the color has nothing to do with is then because lots of white one's have the most problems it seems.

Another bad camera comparison

Poor Sony, they just can't get it right. They place dead last on nearly every shot.
https://youtu.be/Xsvxz2XBXSc
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Well my Z5 performs completely differently in such conditions.
This comparison doesn't mean much.

doministry said:
Well my Z5 performs completely differently in such conditions.
This comparison doesn't mean much.
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Well, yes, you are correct, a different phone does perform differently... but that's not the point and your Z5 has nothing to do with the topic. We're comparing current flagship camera performance.
Here's some daytime and video comparisons as well:
Day Time Comparsions
Video (huge fail when phone overheats and shuts down)
I'm a big fan of the Z series sony phones. It's a shame the X series can't seem to live up to their reputation.

PuffDaddy_d said:
Well, yes, you are correct, a different phone does perform differently... but that's not the point and your Z5 has nothing to do with the topic. We're comparing current flagship camera performance.
Here's some daytime and video comparisons as well:
Day Time Comparsions
Video (huge fail when phone overheats and shuts down)
I'm a big fan of the Z series sony phones. It's a shame the X series can't seem to live up to their reputation.
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Well my post has alot to do with the topic.
Since X/X Performance performs better than Z5.
I mean the settings were strange or the mode, I don't know.
The Sony in lowlight can do as good as S7.

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-X-Performance-Mobile-review-Impressive-results
Top rated mobile camera again. Enough said.
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MGSBigBoss said:
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-X-Performance-Mobile-review-Impressive-results
Top rated mobile camera again. Enough said.
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Slam dunk
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And similarly last year the z5 was also rated best camera in a smartphone
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MGSBigBoss said:
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-X-Performance-Mobile-review-Impressive-results
Top rated mobile camera again. Enough said.
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Yes, we all know that DXO manages to be the only source that gives Sony phones high scores. They are able to set up each shot in a manner that allows for objective analysis of each scene. However, their results are rarely representative of what people get on point and shoot situations. Check any YouTube comparison and you'll see that Sony photos just don't look as good when placed next to the leading competition. It's not a trick, it's not just a single review, it's a trend.
But why do I need to convince you. You saw the videos, right? The evidence is all there. The Sony simply underperformed and the overheating issue is consistent with other reviewers well. It's a shame though because we need Sony to succeed. They make great phones and I want another compact flagship some day.
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PuffDaddy_d said:
Yes, we all know that DXO manages to be the only source that gives Sony phones high scores. They are able to set up each shot in a manner that allows for objective analysis of each scene. However, their results are rarely representative of what people get on point and shoot situations. Check any YouTube comparison and you'll see that Sony photos just don't look as good when placed next to the leading competition. It's not a trick, it's not just a single review, it's a trend.
But why do I need to convince you. You saw the videos, right? The evidence is all there. The Sony simply underperformed and the overheating issue is consistent with other reviewers well. It's a shame though because we need Sony to succeed. They make great phones and I want another compact flagship some day.
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Well now you are heavily exaggerating that it's the only review. As others have posted positive reviews as well. And dxo also specializes in camera reviews. I'd trust their review more so than others for camera.
I have yet to experience overheating in any regular use.
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MGSBigBoss said:
Well now you are heavily exaggerating that it's the only review. As others have posted positive reviews as well. And dxo also specializes in camera reviews. I'd trust their review more so than others for camera.
I have yet to experience overheating in any regular use.
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I trust DXO to know more about what makes a photo technically accurate, but the average person only cares about what looks good to them. A shot that scores well technically may look dull and lifeless to the average person. So many people prefer to compare cameras against each other rather than against some checklists. Regardless of how well it scores technically, ask yourself, does the Sony phone look better than the competition in any of the videos above? The answer should be a clear, "no".
On another note, I should clarify that the overheating isn't a result of daily usage, but of recording video. For some reason, the X performance shuts down when recording video. I might forgive it if it was recording 4k resolution (as it did with my z3c), but there's no excuse for a brand new flagship to be shutting down on 1080p. And it didn't just happen in the link above, there's an entire YouTube video dedicated to timing how long each Sony phone takes to overheat and shut down.
https://youtu.be/TG6oin7x8Rs
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If we are talking average person then they won't see differences in clarity. If the experts of cameras say it's the best camera I believe them. Sonys phone boots the camera faster than the others at <.6 seconds. Higher resolution. And easier to use with superior auto and I don't have to change settings. Have you yourself experienced over heating?
Here's another review that showed at top of Google results
http://www.manilashaker.com/sony-xp...e-6s-vs-galaxy-s7-vs-oneplus-3-camera-review/
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The XP camera is fantastic, no other words to describe it. It's night and day compared to my z5c. The reviews I've read sometimes claim a photo that to me is clearly worse is the "winner", so without a clear methodology the reviews are subjective.
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If you watch videos and take there showcase as Bible then your always losing.
Living in comparisons (grass is always greener) will always give you a negative result.
For me the camera is absolutely fandabydosey.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6e46LKf3A75bm9Gd1VxMU13NVU
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dillalade said:
If you watch videos and take there showcase as Bible then your always losing.
Living in comparisons (grass is always greener) will always give you a negative result.
For me the camera is absolutely fandabydosey.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6e46LKf3A75bm9Gd1VxMU13NVU
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you mean that we'll always be disappointed by comparing to other phones because the grass always seems greener on the other side, then I have to disagree. We're disappointed because the grass really is greener. Its not as subjective as you make it seem.
If the XP looks worse in a side by side comparison, then that means it looks worse. The other phones looked better in most shots. What's the argument? Are you saying the XP somehow looked better from your perspective? This thread isn't about our personal experiences with the phone. It's about how the comparison shows the XP to under-perform when compared directly to other phones taking the same shots at the same time.
Once again, where is the argument here?

I'm saying make your own judgement rather then take those comparisons as Bible.
I didn't hear anywhere in video where he states what setting he used for the Sony. It's not a full blown conclusion in that specific video in my opinion.
Regardless, I'm stating the camera is very good. But in your eyes it's never going to be. 2nd hand tests/judgements don't really cut it in my opinion.
Above all I take your point, there perhaps is some validity in your video link, however I would ask you perform a full blown side by side and see if the XP really falls drastically short when comparing with other devices.
Didn't come here to lay down an argument. Just chime in with my opinion.
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http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-x-performance-review-01450018/
Another great and fair review. To say there's only one source is ridiculous when I've shown time and time again the device is well worth the money.
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MGSBigBoss said:
http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-x-performance-review-01450018/
Another great and fair review. To say there's only one source is ridiculous when I've shown time and time again the device is well worth the money.
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Sigh... Yes, another camera review that takes a few photos and says they look good. No one here doubts that a flagship phone can take good pictures. The site you link does not do a side by side comparison which is what this thread is about. Side by side, Sony doesn't seem to keep up with the competition.
It's funny, in the Z3 and Z5 sections, most members actually reached that same conclusion on there own regarding those respective devices. Why is this section so sensitive?
Instead of arguing about this, I was hoping people would actually comment on the comparison.
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The Xperia Perfomance X camera pretty much destroys the competition. Great colors, well outlined detail without resorting to abuse of post-processing like the generally bad S7 photos and great exposure. The XXP at ISO 3200 beats the S7 at ISO 1250 like a champ. Z1+ line already outperformed S7 in most areas but XXP takes it to a new level. Pretty much a generational leap. Very impressed!

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The Xperia Perfomance X camera pretty much destroys the competition. Great colors, well outlined detail without resorting to abuse of post-processing like the generally bad S7 photos and great exposure. The XXP at ISO 3200 beats the S7 at ISO 1250 like a champ. Z1+ line already outperformed S7 in most areas but XXP takes it to a new level. Pretty much a generational leap. Very impressed!
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Is that the results you saw in this comparison video?
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PuffDaddy_d said:
Is that the results you saw in this comparison video?
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That is the real life results I saw. Beats a 1080p 8Mbit/s encoded Youtube video of medium encoding quality by miles.