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Best Kernel for Paranoid Android

Just curious. I have about decided that Paranoid Android is going to be my rom of choice for my Nexus 7. Looking to see what kernel everyone is running and which one they think is best.

I've been using trinity for a few days with that paranoid and it has been working brilliantly, the battery life is excellent, very quick, and any instability I can definitely credit towards my inexperienced tinkering
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You can use the Franco Kernel, or otherwise (my favourite) Faux ES Kernel!

Careful with faux123 014b1/014b1es kernels
chris.wueste said:
Just curious. I have about decided that Paranoid Android is going to be my rom of choice for my Nexus 7. Looking to see what kernel everyone is running and which one they think is best.
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I also love faux123 kernels, especially 013m (or 013es if battery life is an issue). USB OTG charging works if enabled in FauxClock, very stable.However, 014b1/b1es freezes if Bluetooth is enabled and BT device connects.
Hope it helps.

Running M-Kernel - a29 here. Been trying out a few for the past couple days. Best advice I can give you: play with each one for a while and makes some notes of how your device feels with each kernel.
Also, check out this thread if you haven't already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571

ever process is different and hence react differently to kernels, try and test for urself thats the only way ull know for sure.
and for average scoring for battery and benchmarks i suggest visiting this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571

Which kernel would increase speed and numbers in quadrant standard?

xateeq said:
ever process is different and hence react differently to kernels, try and test for urself thats the only way ull know for sure.
and for average scoring for battery and benchmarks i suggest visiting this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
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This. There is no such animal as an across the board best kernel.
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I see a lot of lag and complete lockups on my Nexus 7. The only kernel I haven't seen this on is m-kernel. Just my 2 cents.
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[Q] (Q) Reccomend rom and kernel combo?

Hi you guys, I just got my nexus 4 a week ago and rooted it right away.
I have been looking through the list of roms and I honestly don't know which is right for me.
I'm looking for a STABLE rom that knows how to balance battery life and power.
I don't care too much for customization, just a little would be nice (Nothing too overbearing).
It would be if the rom just knew what it was doing, and doesn't need me to constantly tweak things.
SO in all, just the BEST reccomnded rom and kernal combo.
Thank you in advance.
EDIT: I am currently running the stock rom, and franco r53 kernel

Slimbean. Stable, no bugs. As for kernels, they all are good. I like trinity and matrix

You will get a lot of different feedback what is the best. In the end it's a matter of taste.
atm I like AOKP with faux123 kernel. I heard the Minco Rom which comes with franco kernel should be very stable and smooth. And this rom and kernel where developed and supposed to work together:
"Welcome to the cross collaboration between myself & Francisco Franco.
We're proud to announce the first and ONLY Franco supported ROM. This ROM has been built from AOSP Jelly Bean."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061573
I don't know if you already know this "index"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975842
try some of the AOSP ROMs and see what's best for you. Since there is no best combo for everyone.

Try EVERYTHING! Every phone is different as is every person.
I could just go on about how I now swear to Trinity and AOKP, but you'll never really know the answer to your own question unless you experiment. The experimenting is the best part :3
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I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!

Notorious544d said:
I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!
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Want battery but worried about smooth? Install pimy my ROM and use a fee tweaks here and there ....
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MINCO, really lite

Sorry i didn't make this clear earlier. But i care MUCH more about battery life than performance. I use my phone constantly, wether that means texting or reddit or games. I'm sure the nexus' hardware can more than keep up with these tasks but I'm getting relatively poor battery life.

I'm a gamer I use rasbeenjelly rom and motley b31 experimental. I get better battery life and performance than stock rom.
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I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?

newtoandroid30 said:
I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?
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Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Factory stock rom and franco kernel.
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Slimbean (stable, no bugs) and Harsh kernel (smoothest kernel I've tried so far and good battery life)

reaper000 said:
Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?

galaxys said:
Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?
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That's what I'm running right now! :good:
The reason I recc'd SR5 was because I found it faster than SR6. Heck, with Matr1x 5.5ocgpu487 (which itself is marginally faster than Matr1x6), I was scoring just over 20000 on AnTuTu with SR5.
I just benched SR7.2 with Motley b31oc1678, gave a pretty nice AnTuTu score of 20900, which is the same as what SR5 gave. So I'd give a thumbs up to this combo -- it also feels as good as SR5! (Running Trinity 91L at 1728 oc'd would undoubtedly bump that above 21000, but I couldn't tell the difference between running Trinity at 1728 and Motley at 1678 in daily use)
Do have to say that Rasbean Jelly and Trinity 91L was blinding fast, very noticeable in regular use; totally supports the >23000 AnTuTu score. (But I can't tell that big a difference between that combo and Liquidsmooth 3.2, which is unsupported by its 19000 benchmark. Yet another reason why I feel benchmarks are somewhat worthless when compared between entirely different ROMs)
It's all really subjective; objective tests like benchmarks are so confounded that only data mongers like me bother to use them :silly:

With Motleys I get 16000 at 1024
19500 at 1242 but then the increase is negligible. 22500 at 1642 for me.
I have been runing at 1024 and every game is perfect. Undervolted to 650 at 1024
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[Q] Best rom and kernel with amazing performance and good battery

Im looking for a specific kind of rom. One that has amazing benchmarks (ones the beat the note 2 since my friend always goes on and on about how amazing his note 2 is and now i finally got a hold of this phone i can shut his annoying quotes down and brag how gorgeous my phone looks to) but also has decent batter life that will last me as the same if it was stock or better. and what kernel should i flash with it. Currently im using a stock rom with faux123 enchanced kernel so i can make my screen look better. so im open to any ideas, thanks in advance.

MrKickstand said:
Im looking for a specific kind of rom. One that has amazing benchmarks (ones the beat the note 2 since my friend always goes on and on about how amazing his note 2 is and now i finally got a hold of this phone i can shut his annoying quotes down and brag how gorgeous my phone looks to) but also has decent batter life that will last me as the same if it was stock or better. and what kernel should i flash with it. Currently im using a stock rom with faux123 enchanced kernel so i can make my screen look better. so im open to any ideas, thanks in advance.
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Currently using Mysterious AOKP latest release with francos r100 kernel. Everything smooth and fast even under clocked and undervolted with no problems at all.
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MrKickstand said:
Im looking for a specific kind of rom. One that has amazing benchmarks (ones the beat the note 2 since my friend always goes on and on about how amazing his note 2 is and now i finally got a hold of this phone i can shut his annoying quotes down and brag how gorgeous my phone looks to) but also has decent batter life that will last me as the same if it was stock or better. and what kernel should i flash with it. Currently im using a stock rom with faux123 enchanced kernel so i can make my screen look better. so im open to any ideas, thanks in advance.
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Your title will make you become a good prey for trolling or noone gonna answer. It's very subjective to tell which ROM or kernel to be the best, and the ROMs and kenels in this 4rum are updated day by day. You can try and decide by yourself.
BUt I know your concern, I used to ask myself and everyone the same question. Hence I'll give you my review for stock ROM + FrancoKernel. These two gives me more than 4 hours onscreen + wifi (sometimes off) + sync (contact, gmail). I also UV 150mV to reduce the heat (at least that's what i am thinking). Heat? 20mins with NFS MW, my phone reaches 47celcius. 45 min -> 55celcius (it's not fixed).

Try them all and see what's best for your needs. Many roms and kernels out there.
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OP as stated, only you can determine what is best for your device and you....just test the Development that is going on, there are to many variables involved to base your thoughts off others comments, usage & apps so on....ensure you do some reading and homework on your choice, Thank You.

[Q] Kernel that could fit to me ?

I'm searching a kernel that has the best battery life considering that i don't play games and if i play i play game like "Solitaire" these kind of little game .. And just use texting, whatsapp, twitter, and a bit internet browsing..
I want at least near stock performance though..

tlf55 said:
I'm searching a kernel that has the best battery life considering that i don't play games and if i play i play game like "Solitaire" these kind of little game .. And just use texting, whatsapp, twitter, and a bit internet browsing..
I want at least near stock performance though..
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Try a few like Franco, Faux, Trinity and others and keep the one you like most. This is the best advice i can give you as different users will have different usage for their phones, so it is very subjective

You have to try them and see what performs the best for, under clocking and such. I swear by Trinity, battery efficient and fast. I've tried all the kernels and judged for myself which suits me better. Best way to do it everyone's views will be subjective.
Also best kernel related questions usually get closed so good luck in your hunt for a kernel.
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An other question then.. Which app should i use to "control" the kernel feature ?

tlf55 said:
An other question then.. Which app should i use to "control" the kernel feature ?
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Most kernel devs have their own control apps (also includes color- and sound enhancements) available in Google Play.

Bingo
DO NOT POST A "What's the best ROM/Kernel/Theme?" THREAD!
Closed.

[Q] Optimal Setup for Nexus 4?

Hi!
I got my Nexus 4 three days ago.
My Usage Specs -
I use my N4 mainly for internet ( WiFi, sometimes 2G ) and a little bit of gaming. I make occasional calls and text rarely.
I don't use WhatsApp or Facebook.
I'm using STOCK ROM+Kernel.
I'm getting around 10-12 hours of battery life, with 4-5 hours of screen-on time.
Now, I want to be able to over/under clock & volt my CPU+GPU. This is to increase battery life and increase performance, as required.
It looks like too much choice is very confusing. So, I'd like some experienced suggestions and recommendations.
So, which _ should I use? ( And, I've already narrowed down the choices a bit )
Kernel - Faux, Motley, Franco
ROM - AOSP(Stock), CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, Xylon
Also, should I use Battery, CPU, RAM managers? If so, which ones?
What are some cool, useful N4 specific apps?
Any other tweaks and tips? - You can link to other xda threads, if available.
I will be unlocking and rooting tomorrow, once I decide which kernel+ROM to use.
Thanks!

Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.

scream4cheese said:
Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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That's cleared up some of my doubt. Thanks!
I'll try out greenify, too.

estallings15 said:
OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.
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Hi,
I understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!

arvindch said:
Hi,
understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!
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I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit

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brandonc0526 said:
I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
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Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?

arvindch said:
Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?
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Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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scream4cheese said:
Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.

arvindch said:
Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.
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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid

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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid
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Okay, thanks. I'll experiment a bit, and see how it goes.
I've used PA before, on a HTC One V. It looks great, IMO too,

Try the matrix kernal
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HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.

arvindch said:
HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.
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Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2

sigma392 said:
Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2
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Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!

arvindch said:
Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!
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Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:

Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.

sigma392 said:
Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:
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I think I'll use the normal ones.
My internet speed is 4 Mbps and I don't use my WiFi to transfer files at all.
At the moment I'm getting the speeds I can technically get. So those won't help me, I guess.
Also, I've been running R140 without any problems for the last day.
Thanks!

I Am Marino said:
Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.
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Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?

arvindch said:
Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?
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They're pretty much the same really. But Matr1x does wonders in benchmarks. I would love to use it however I need those Prima Drivers badly :S