[Q] UPGRADED TO 4.4.2 Official BUT ROOT IS GONE NOW - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

just upgraded from 4.3 official to 4.4 official...the update removed root..HOW DO I GET IT BACK? i don't want to wipe & iv tried Kingo root. what do i need to do!

There is no way currently to root the official update. That is why Beans and others said to wait on taking the official update until the devs looked at it.
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Questions About Root, KitKat, and ROMS

for years, the first thing i did when i got a new phone was root it and install a new ROM.
Now things seem to be different for me.
i immediately rooted my phone but regret not researching this phone and Android 4.3 and 4.4 better before rooting.
i noticed a lot of the roms require that you flash the leaked KitKat. i tried to do this but it fails every time. So i figured i will just stick to what i have now and wait until the official OTA update.
Well that can't be done since i rooted my phone.
Now for my questions.
Do i need KitKat before installing CarbonROM and if not can i install this instead of the leaked ROM as a prerequisite to other 4.4 based ROMs?
Is it plausible, and perhaps better, to wait for an official KitKat firmware to be downloadable from XDA?
Is there anyway i can get OTA to work again on my rooted device?
Is it worth going all the way back to stock ROM and unrooted device just for OTA release of KitKat?
Is that even possible now that KNOX has been tripped?
Thanks in advance.
Any CM based rom still requires JELLY BEAN'S Boot loader.. so if you want CM/CARBON/AOSB etc then do not upgrade to 4.4.2
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"Upgrade" from MLG to NC2 (leaked KK to OTA KK)

so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
amendolaro1 said:
so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
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I want to upgrade from MLG to NC2 too. However, there is no direct way to do it at the moment.
However, if you are still at A2, you can use Safestrap to switch between MJ5 and NC2 (Please don't flash NC2 aboot.mbn!!!!!!)
Yes there is just do the mj5 restore that is in this section then follow one of the guides on how to install the ota
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As Jerrycoffman said. . . .
Restore back to MJ5 using this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Don't root using the last part. It removes knox which will block you from being able to update the phone.
Next there will be a OTA to install its around 60mb. This is NB4
Lastly, just download kitkat OTA that's available. This may take sometime because it is a larger file size.
A lot of people have had issues installing the Kitkat OTA (including me). It fails at a certain percentage.
If you have this problem just follow this guide to fix it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701062
Make sure you back up any apps and files you need before starting this
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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Agree 100%!!!
mutantblack said:
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
jreed3786 said:
There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
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i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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As far as I know, that's a NO.
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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Isis can work on kit kat. I had it working but changed to wallet out of principal
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Best solution:
Go to Best Buy and ask one of the Samsung people to get you to stock, in less than 10 to 15 minutes you'll be in OTA Kit Kat.
No reason to have OTA kitkat when you lose root.
I use ISIS daily with the following mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425346

Has anyone successfully retained root from 4.3 to kit-kay 4.4?

I've seen several posts on using the leaked 4.4. Has anyone successfully retained root after 4.4 ota using the official 4.3 currently rooted? I really don't want to install safestrap or the leaked 4.4 .
Also,
Whats the big deal about 4.4? Should I just freeze 4.3 to keep root?
tcbusch said:
I've seen several posts on using the leaked 4.4. Has anyone successfully retained root after 4.4 ota using the official 4.3 currently rooted? I really don't want to install safestrap or the leaked 4.4 .
Also,
Whats the big deal about 4.4? Should I just freeze 4.3 to keep root?
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Read. It really is a very special release and everybody that's running a rooted note 3 should be on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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Everyone retains root. You have to be rooted to install it and the rom is already rooted.
It's really good.
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tcbusch said:
I've seen several posts on using the leaked 4.4. Has anyone successfully retained root after 4.4 ota using the official 4.3 currently rooted? I really don't want to install safestrap or the leaked 4.4 .
Also,
Whats the big deal about 4.4? Should I just freeze 4.3 to keep root?
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If you want the already rooted 4.4, I'm pretty darn sure you MUST use safestrap. Otherwise, you are stuck with the un-rooted leak.
Yeah. Safestrap and the rooted leak is the only way to go.
I see what he is asking now. Has anyone who was running rooted 4.3 taken an official OTA update to kit kat and retained root.. Seeing as the official kit kat OTA on Verizon hasn't happened yet, nobody can say.
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neyenlives said:
Yeah. Safestrap and the rooted leak is the only way to go.
I see what he is asking now. Has anyone who was running rooted 4.3 taken an official OTA update to kit kat and retained root.. Seeing as the official kit kat OTA on Verizon hasn't happened yet, nobody can say.
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Yes this is exactly what I am asking. Thanks
I like the phone the way it is and have tweaked a few things with xposed and so I want to keep root. However if there is a wonderful new feature on 4.4 that I can't live without then I might need to figure out 4.4 root.
For now I am just going to freeze the update service.
Actually the official OTA is probably going to be very bad and we may not be able to do as much with it. May not even get root. The leaked version is tweaked for performance, and already rooted, and has some features that would never be in an official release. I highly recommend you go ahead with it and forget about trying to be the only guy on here that wants to wait for the official leak and possibly loose root in the process. You won't get much help rooting it when everybody is already on a rooted kit kat. Nobody is going to waste time with it.
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Gladyscoleman said:
I agree with you 4.3 better then 4.4. because KK have some app compatibility issues.
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Only poorly supported apps
Gladyscoleman said:
I agree with you 4.3 better then 4.4. because KK have some app compatibility issues.
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Only ones you don't want. Every app I have works fine on KK. Good devs have already updated their apps.
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Ignore.
neyenlives said:
Everyone retains root. You have to be rooted to install it and the rom is already rooted.
It's really good.
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He's talking about taking the OTA from rooted 4.3 with an app such as Root Keeper.
LexusBrian400 said:
He's talking about taking the OTA from rooted 4.3 with an app such as Root Keeper.
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From what I read a while ago Root Keeper does not work with 4.3. I checked and that is still the case. I can only assume it also would not work for 4.4.
I did read that SuperSU has a preserve root function. I think somewhere else I read you temp unroot then preserve root. After taking the OTA you enable root again.
Something like this.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1s700k/want_root_on_441_download_latest_supersu_v180/
LexusBrian400 said:
He's talking about taking the OTA from rooted 4.3 with an app such as Root Keeper.
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I know but there's not been an OTA yet so how would anyone know if it works on the OTA?
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The leaked version is a gold mine! It allows you to go back to 4.3 at any time via odin where as the official will not allow this. I am currently running leaked version and it is flawless. You dont have to have SafeStrap active after installing it just need to have it installed. I havent even opened SS since installing the leaked 4.4.2 update.
Galaxy Note 3 Stock Rooted Xposed
Galaxy Gear Rooted Null Rom
Suck It Nerds!
neyenlives said:
I know but there's not been an OTA yet so how would anyone know if it works on the OTA?
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This is the second reason for asking. If people ota upgrade that have root and want to experiment then they could post their results here. So I believe I need to ask this before people start accepting ota.

[Q] Can I upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4 OTA and keep root?

Hello, just was wondering. With my Att MK2, I know the last OTA from 4.2.2 to 4.3 I just used SuperSU survival mode to keep root. Does this work as well going in to 4.4? Or should I still be avoiding 4.4 OTA like the plague? Thanks.
The NC1 build got root. Search for towelroot
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Ok so when I update, I would become "NC1" then? Is it even worth switching over to?

Verizon Galaxy S5 U.S, Lollipop update rolls out today?HELP

Hi guys I just recently rooted my phone im using the G900V model of the S5 from Verizon now supposedly after all these articles iv read the lollipop 5.0 update for this S5 model comes out today. How do i update to this update with a rooted phone, i rooted my phone yesterday its using towelroot and its on the NK2 kernel which is the most recent unless the lollipop update changed that.
EDITr did they announce it and its not released yet?
LethianV said:
Hi guys I just recently rooted my phone im using the G900V model of the S5 from Verizon now supposedly after all these articles iv read the lollipop 5.0 update for this S5 model comes out today. How do i update to this update with a rooted phone, i rooted my phone yesterday its using towelroot and its on the NK2 kernel which is the most recent unless the lollipop update changed that.
EDITr did they announce it and its not released yet?
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You will receive the official update, and you will be able to update it via OTA as long as you have the stock kernel and recovery. So if you have a custom kernel and/or recovery, reflash the stock ones. Otherwise, you can always download a modified OTA from XDA which will work on a modified system.
So my S5 updated last night. Root checker says not rooted. Xposed installer isn't supported anymore. How can I get back to rooted? Any threads out there yet?
Only update received was part one to prepare for lollipop. Second update will not install. I think I have to unroot back to original then root again. Where can I find the thread for that.
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I updated to OA8 and need to root. Anything out there to walk me through this? Tried to flash NK2 but got stuck in boot loop. 3 attempts.
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voodoo411 said:
I updated to OA8 and need to root. Anything out there to walk me through this? Tried to flash NK2 but got stuck in boot loop. 3 attempts.
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voodoo411 said:
So my S5 updated last night. Root checker says not rooted. Xposed installer isn't supported anymore. How can I get back to rooted? Any threads out there yet?
Only update received was part one to prepare for lollipop. Second update will not install. I think I have to unroot back to original then root again. Where can I find the thread for that.
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Hello again
You can post in the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 Q&A subforum where your question will be better answered.
Cheers,
Quasar.

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