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[Q] Purchase current Iconia or wait?

Ok so I've been wanting to get a tegra2-3 based tablet and the transformer prime is epic fail :/ soooo I've been watching sites like woot and have noticed that all the refurbs w/ the Iconia 500 are ~300$
I'm just not sure if its worth getting an refurb 32gb A500, old transformer, A200, or the new Acer tablets that come out in Q2?
I read the tablet is kinda heavy but honestly I just don't know if the thickness of the will be a bad thing plus no IPS on the old and new display, so I'm not sure if I should wait or get the new model.

The iconia is a great tablet. That said, the tech available now is always cheaper and has the bird in the hand advantage. The stuff available tomorrow is always shinier and flashier. You have to drop the hammer sometime, do you want a great tab now or a possibly greater one in 6 months?
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The Iconia A510 is announced for March with Tegra III and a battery capacity of 9.800 mAh, which is more than 30% higher than that of the A500. I would wait for the A510, as it will provide much better perfromance for presumably 100 bucks more.
Best regards, maris

I Would wait unless you get a great deal
maris__ said:
The Iconia A510 is announced for March with Tegra III and a battery capacity of 9.800 mAh, which is more than 30% higher than that of the A500. I would wait for the A510, as it will provide much better perfromance for presumably 100 bucks more.
Best regards, maris
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If you just WANT!!!! the tablet i would wait .. if you have to have it Wait. Wait until they are released and see if they are rooted..See how Development for such tablet pans out..But as stated above waiting for the next best thing will likely keep you without a tablet . I usually wait and buy when its closer to end of life and prices have dropped. I did pre order my a500. only regret is updates being so slow and the device being locked down by acer. thou this has mostly been over come.
So i would wait unless I found a very awesome Deal...
As far as the 9.800 mAh Battery.. of course is has a more powerful batter . Its processor is way more double.. if YOU LOOK At in perspective . IT Will be less Battery life compared to the battery in the a500.. So im guessing it will be about equal...
Sorry to kill your battery run time theory. Thou the t 3 has a added advantage to suspend mode. with there 5 th core. I will not get into that here

Try searching google for pc parts ohio.... I bet if you look at their "tablets" inventory.... you might find something to change your mind and make you buy an Iconia a500 right NOW. I did.... i'll never regret it!

erica_renee said:
IT Will be less Battery life compared to the battery in the a500.. So im guessing it will be about equal...
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Don't think so. Several blogs mention a battery life of 18 hours. This is of course an exaggeration, but suggests that a longer battery life can be expected compared with the A500, which has a battery life of 11 hours according to official specs.
Best regards, maris

Just get juice defender and love your battery for who he/she is ^_^.

The A500 has the most bang for your buck and is one of the better mid-range tablets, but it isn't without issues.
I got the 16 GB model for about $320 (new) several months back and would still get it again as of today (i.e. if I lost or broke my tablet). However, with a slew of Tegra 3's around the corner you can bet the price for these last-generation models will fall even more.
If you can wait until April then you will save another $50-100 if you go with the A500. Then again, you may fall in love with the new ones. It all depends if you need/want a tablet computer now (I do).
Now, that said.... I do have some minor issues with the A500 after using it for 6 months. The microphone is completely useless due to a design flaw, and the screen is not as vivid as the Samsung or Motorola counterparts. If money was no object I probably would have gotten the XOOM.... but at the end of the day I also enjoy seeing that extra $200 in my pocket that I saved by getting the A500.

In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.

spaghetti_monster said:
In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.
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I haven't used the Asus except for a few minutes in BB, but I heard they had some pretty bad ghosting issues that ours didn't have.
As far as the iPad comparison, I believe ours is pretty close size-wise, if not just a bit smaller than the iPad. I'm sure you could find measurements of both on the internet, though.

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The A500 is a cheeta compared to the sloth of a tablet 'ipad(1)' This in mind, we compare the A500 vs. iPad 2 :
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As far as the iPad comparison, I believe ours is pretty close size-wise, if not just a bit smaller than the iPad. I'm sure you could find measurements of both on the internet, though.
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Acer Iconia Tab A500 vs. iPad 2
May 18th, 2011
Considering purchasing a new tablet? Tablets are becoming more and more popular these days and they’re slowly going to be a must-have gadget for all households. Here are two of the latest slates compared in terms of basic features, so you can decide which one you should buy: the popular iPad 2 or the recently released Acer Iconia Tab A500.
In the beginning, we’ll take a brief look at their design and exterior dimensions. The iPad 2 comes in two possible colors: black or white. Its exact dimensions are as follows: 9.50 x 7.31 x 0.34 (241.2 x 185.7 x 8.8 mm) and it weighs 613 grams. The Acer Iconia Tab A500 is thicker and heavier, though, its dimensions being 10.24 x 6.97 x 0.52 (260 x 177 x 13.3 mm ) and weighing in at 730 g. It turns out that the iPad 2 is a little more portable and sleek than the Acer tablet.
Moving further to the display, we find some other differences between the two slates. The Acer Iconia Tab comes with a 10.1-inch screen and a display resolution of 1280 x 800 pixels. The iPad 2, on the other hand, features a 9.7-inch display with a resolution of 1024 x 768 pixels.
It’s time to discuss the cameras. The iPad 2 doesn’t rate very well in this category, since it only packs a 0.7-megapixel rear-facing camera and a VGA front-facing camera for video calling, while the Acer slate does quite well in the camera section, thanks to its 5MP shooter in the back and its additional 2MP front camera. The Acer Iconia Tab wins the battle as far as the cameras are concerned.
What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Let’s see what the two slates have in store for us when it comes to software. The Acer Iconia Tab comes installed with Android Honeycomb, the version developed especially for tablets. The iPad 2, on the other hand, features the Apple iOS 4.3 software, with many available apps. It all depends on which software you’re more accustomed to or inclined to use.
In the end, let’s also see what connectivity options each tablet has. Both slates feature Bluetooth 2.1 and WiFi compatibility and HDMI ports. Regarding pricing and availability details, here’s what you should know. The iPad 2 is selling for $499 (16GB), $599 (32GB), and $699 (64GB). The Acer Iconia Tab A500 starts at $450.
Wrap-up
Although the Apple iPad 2 may start as a favorite, mainly due to its wide popularity, the Acer Iconia Tab is a fierce competitor, thanks to its high-end specs and features. If you’re looking for a reasonably-priced Android tablet, the Acer Iconia is a smart choice, but of course, it’ll never be able to beat the iPad 2 in the popularity section.
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1.http://www.tabletvstablet.com/2011/05/18/acer-iconia-tab-a500-vs-ipad-2/

carpenterethan said:
The A500 is a cheeta compared to the sloth of a tablet 'ipad(1)' This in mind, we compare the A500 vs. iPad 2 :
WORKS SITED:
1.http://www.tabletvstablet.com/2011/05/18/acer-iconia-tab-a500-vs-ipad-2/
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I did google it, many times but I was looking for pictures, the physical dimensions are easy to locate, but the picture thickness comparison is something else.
Hmm forgot I had a phone, the thickness on my thunderbolt is a bit larger overall

What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Actually, the Iconia A500 also comes in a 64 GB version, I am sending this reply from a 64 GB A500.

Danny2 said:
What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Actually, the Iconia A500 also comes in a 64 GB version, I am sending this reply from a 64 GB A500.
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You mean the 32gb microsd card? Still unsure if its worth getting a A510 because I mean the current 1 is rootable, plays games, movies, ebook, tough?, 300$ for a 32gb refurb, and idk what else.
I will be honest, I have no intention of paying more than 400$ for a tablet hence the refurb. Thats why I'm unsure about the other ones that offer similar things. The one exception is the Transformer Prime, but Asus messed it up and isn't recalling soo...

spaghetti_monster said:
In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.
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The Iconia is a lot thicker, but I'm glad it is, because it feels harder and stronger in the hand.
Comparing to the iPad, the Iconia has a 10.1 inch screen, while the iPad has a 9.7 screen. The iPad is more square like, so it looks bigger, but in fact, the Iconia is a little bigger.

spaghetti_monster said:
You mean the 32gb microsd card? Still unsure if its worth getting a A510 because I mean the current 1 is rootable, plays games, movies, ebook, tough?, 300$ for a 32gb refurb, and idk what else.
I will be honest, I have no intention of paying more than 400$ for a tablet hence the refurb. Thats why I'm unsure about the other ones that offer similar things. The one exception is the Transformer Prime, but Asus messed it up and isn't recalling soo...
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Actually, I meant, that if you look around, (it is hard to find, I got mine from www.Futureshop.ca) you can get a new, not refurb, Acer Iconia A500 with 64 GB Internal storage, for $400.00 plus taxes. Add the 32 GB microsd, & you will have 96 GB of storage.
This link should get you there, although it is now 499.00, not the 399.00 I paid at Christmas 2011.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=e96c6d3a6e56dcd548180b5df6fb8053en02

And to top it off, you should be able to run a 64Gb sd card and plug in an NTFS drive, I use a 1Tb HDD, thats some MAJOR mojo the ipad 2 can't even try to compete with....
Race is won before it even starts on that alone....

I was surprised that the a500 takes microsdxc though ive never seen higher than 64 gb. The one problem I have now is that some newer games like borderlands idk if its tegra3 required or tegra2 is acceptable. Though they haven't mentioned it, might as well wait. Acers Official ebay page seems to always have it.

Just checked price today, 64 GB A500 is now down to 449.00 @ Futurshop.ca.

Is it still worthit?

Many tablets are coming out in a couple of months equiped with tegra 3 one of which is the toshiba 7.7 with tegra 3 and super amoled screen similar to the tab. Tegra3 is always faster in running games and also has a very good battery life due to its helper core (5th core) plus most demanding and graphic intensive games are mostly designed to run on tegra. Should i wait for this or just shell out some cash and get the tab 7.7
Also i have red that one app that i always use is the splashtop which they just released a new version specifically designed for tegra3 processor so you can play graphic intensive games from pc and stream it to your tablet.
Quadcore cpu is the new technology and dual core is showing up its age , what do you guys think?

As many people say, if you always wait for the latest and greatest you will always be waiting. I got the 7.7 cause it was the newest model and I just wanted it, did i need it ? no but I just wanted it and the big seller is that I could finally use it as both a phone and tab, something that the original tmobile tab did not fully do. I am not familiar with tegra 3 but I do keep hearing about it. It is basically up to you and what your needs are.
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Any device you buy at any time is going to be out-dated within a few days/weeks. Just the way technology is. Gotta decide what your use case is and determine if a device meets your use case, and if so go for it.

Well with chainfire 3d all the new tegra 3 games works just fine.
I had TF prime for a week. It was with HC but I would say it doesnt look like fast tablet. I can't even watch YouTube 1080p in blowser. Laggyy.
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fobas001 said:
Well with chainfire 3d all the new tegra 3 games works just fine.
I had TF prime for a week. It was with HC but I would say it doesnt look like fast tablet. I can't even watch YouTube 1080p in blowser. Laggyy.
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So you mean if if i rooted my tab and install this plugin i can run all tegra/tegra3 games ? Thats awesome!

mywingtophone said:
So you mean if if i rooted my tab and install this plugin i can run all tegra/tegra3 games ? Thats awesome!
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Pretty much, yeah.

chainfire for HC?
I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?

The Galaxy Tab 7.7 is going to be leaps and bound better in the physical tablet war.. There's nothing coming out matching it's size/weight and feature set.
It's the thinnest and lightest 7-8" tablet in existence, has an amazing screen, a resolution only found in 10" Android tablets, list goes on.. Not the mention the 12+ hour battery life, besting the iPad2.
However, the CPU might be decently powerful at this time, but it will soon be easily overpowered by Qualcomm S4 tablets, Exynos2, OMAP5, (anything next gen, Tegra3 excluded). Tegra3 isn't that great, being based on Cortex A9 still.

allways a choice
This is the choice you allway have to make when it comes to electronic I personally buy something new and then enjoy it for a while until i just cant wait buying the next thing. Like its sayd many times before if you wait for the next "new" think, you can wait forewer
I really love my SGT-7.7 allthough i'm looking much forward to, it gets ICS

K999rrl said:
I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?
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Its in russian, but you can see how it runs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Ns8NQ-_Lc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I have the Verizon 4G LTE and I have to say, with regard to portability, feature set and shear amazement at the size and screen this tablet is the all in one device I have been looking for especially in the portability arena.

The 7.7 is an exceptional Tab. It is actually the BEST tab on the market with all features, best form factor, best screen and overall best performance.
Quad Core CPUs are USELESS for Android at this time. Let me repeat that, USELESS! And the Tegra 3 is particularly a joke. The OS and NO APPS can take advantage of it. Good Dual Core is the way to go.
There is plenty of power in the 7.7 as it is and you can overclock it to closer to 2GHz making it a treat! For long time, it will be enough! I still have the original Tab 7 running an overclocked 1.4GHz CPU (from its 1GHz stock speed) and still works amazingly well. The 7.7 compared to it is a rocket.
Sure the Qualcomm S4 and OMAP5 sound sweet though surely Samsung will prefer using it its own Exynos2 in the near future that is "faster" than the current processor on the 7.7 but not so much faster.. definitely will be more energy efficient I think.
So, the 7.7 has plenty or life in it for a long way to come.
If I have any gripes on the 7.7 are the pathetic choices of Samsung sticking with the near 3 year old 3MP camera modules that are on every Tab no matter the new models (its absurd they never got upgraded) and the fact speakers need a bit punchier sound to them..
Other than that the 7.7 is a great Tab, as thin as it can be, feature full and with a screen to die for.
Buy it and love it.

I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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K999rrl said:
I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?
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I'm using it. Not all THD games work though. Galaxy on Fire 2 works perfectly though!

mywingtophone said:
I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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Congrats!! Well done and enjoy

Spec wars are useless in this era of android...functionality is key. My samsung vibrant can do anything this tablet can...just a bit slower...a new tablet won't be able to do anything that this can't ...but other tablets like the padfone or transformer prime can turn into laptops if that's what you want...
For me...the screen is amazing and its portable to the point that I don't feel like an idiot leaving the house with it...so this is perfect for me

mywingtophone said:
I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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Wow you bought the whole shebang, nice!
I think this is the best tablet out yet, (until tomorrow that is ). The hype now of comparing CPU cores is exactly the same as the frequency wars on desktop CPU's a few years ago, and also very much like the sensor pixel count on digital cameras. Up to a point it becomes meaningless and pointless. Its all marketing to hype up a product.
For mobile devices the performance of a device is not solely governed by the CPU. Its the sum of its parts. Its why an iPhone4 (single core) is as responsive and as fast in practical use as a GalaxyS2 (dual core). The Tegra2 was a joke, and it looks like the Tegra3 isn't the messiah its been hyped to be either.
Welcome to the 7.7 club and I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy using the device.

mywingtophone said:
Many tablets are coming out in a couple of months equiped with tegra 3 one of which is the toshiba 7.7 with tegra 3 and super amoled screen similar to the tab. Tegra3 is always faster in running games and also has a very good battery life due to its helper core (5th core) plus most demanding and graphic intensive games are mostly designed to run on tegra. Should i wait for this or just shell out some cash and get the tab 7.7
Also i have red that one app that i always use is the splashtop which they just released a new version specifically designed for tegra3 processor so you can play graphic intensive games from pc and stream it to your tablet.
Quadcore cpu is the new technology and dual core is showing up its age , what do you guys think?
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A search is always worth it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1503574

I would say it is defiantly still worth it. The portability of the device as many others have said is great. I don't really think there will be many apps that will really need or take advantage of a quad core CPU.

worth it? YES!
if you always wait about new technology, i think you'll buy your first tablet on next 10 - 15years from now.
if Toshiba will release their new product 7.7 which is totally copy from Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, you'll get only shame.
why? for me, follower never better than leader.
who's the Best Leader of 7" in the world? Samsung.
that's why *pple want to make ip*d mini, another brand wants to follow Samsung.
sorry oot
may i know how to setting CF3D at 7.7? i'm afraid about CMW and others. thanks

Is the Tab 11.6 Vapourware???

Well if it isn't why no announcement???
I mean it would be a perfect opportunity to upstage the iPad 3 by announcing a tablet with a higher resolution.
I also know that a lot of the Apple Fanboi's are not happy with the A5X chip. They don't believe the hype surrounding it and are disappointed that it only A9 architecture still.
If the rumours about the Tab 11.6 sporting dual core A15 cpu and a ARM Mali-T604 GPU is true then why wait and wait?
Man on paper this is an iPad slayer but why no info from Samsung?
Ta.

Warren_Orange said:
If the rumours about the Tab 11.6 sporting dual core A15 cpu and a ARM Mali-T604 GPU is true then why wait and wait?
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Look at the Galaxy Nexus.
Google/Samsung: "Here is the totally awesome Galaxy Nexus."
Customers: "When can we get it?"
Google/Samsung: "Later, don't know when or where"
*a few months later the Nexus is released sparodically in countries with little advertising*
Hopefully Samsung learned from the bothed Galaxy Nexus announcement/launch.
They need to have the annoucement and lauch as soon as possible. Build the hype to the announcement and then let the people buy it, not hype it and let the gype die down BEFORE people can buy it (See Apple does it, they have it right).

Let's see what happens. Samsung has an event planned in a few days....

Im starting to lose faith in Samsung. I was hoping for the next real tab10.1 but instead they have us tab2 10.1 ... mmm why!!! now no leaks or even a blurry screen shot of the real next tab... im now leaning toward Asus...
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Itchiee said:
Let's see what happens. Samsung has an event planned in a few days....
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Event for what?

okpc said:
Im starting to lose faith in Samsung. I was hoping for the next real tab10.1 but instead they have us tab2 10.1 ... mmm why!!! now no leaks or even a blurry screen shot of the real next tab... im now leaning toward Asus...
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Agreed. the Tab2 has the same exact specs as our current 10.1s. What a drag. The Transformer Prime has really got me interested. The Tabphone (worst name ever) has a little too much going on for me to get excited about it. I'll have to buy the phone/tab/keyboard which I'm sure will cost upwards of a grand. The quadcore Prime will likely be my next purchase.

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Event for what?
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Now we are talking
Thats tomorrow eeek!!
Hope they don't disappoint!

Anyone know what time this event is kicking off and is there a live stream?
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What happened? I never heard anything...
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Either the 11.6 or a nexus tab will probably be unveiled at the Google io conference. That's where there 10.1 got its start.

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Either the 11.6 or a nexus tab will probably be unveiled at the Google io conference. That's where there 10.1 got its start.
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Or at the event that Samsung will hold to announce the Galaxy S 3

So did this conference or announcement even happen?
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No news so it must have been nothing special.
Looks like I'll be getting a 10.1 at this rate.
Out of interest when is Google I/O?
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Keep in mind that the chip destined to power the 11.6 is just in sampling right now. It's not intended to be in production until next quarter. So summer would seem about right for a launch. If they get the Tab 2's and Note 10.1 out in the next couple of weeks that'll give those devices a chance to get some press and early sales. Announcing a newer better tablet before they launch doesn't really benefit Samsung. I'm also guessing the 11.6 will probably be more expensive than the iPad3 so it'll end up being a niche product anyway. The 16GB Note 10.1 Wi-Fi is supposed to be $600 itself.
Here's the latest on the Exynos 5250 that's supposedly being used in the 11.6. Samsung specifically mentions it's for high-end tablets.
http://sammyhub.com/2012/01/27/sams...12-will-be-integrated-in-smartphones-as-well/

The Galaxy Tab 10.1 was released in June last year, but they announced the product in February and redesigned in in March. It was grueling waiting and waiting.
Perhaps Samsung is keeping it closer to the chest this time. Wants to get the product closer to a finished stage before unveiling it. Perhaps it's so awesome they don't want to tip off the competitors too early.
Hopefully it's a real product that gets released by June.

ppl are crzy
Warren_Orange said:
Well if it isn't why no announcement???
I mean it would be a perfect opportunity to upstage the iPad 3 by announcing a tablet with a higher resolution.
I also know that a lot of the Apple Fanboi's are not happy with the A5X chip. They don't believe the hype surrounding it and are disappointed that it only A9 architecture still.
If the rumours about the Tab 11.6 sporting dual core A15 cpu and a ARM Mali-T604 GPU is true then why wait and wait?
Man on paper this is an iPad slayer but why no info from Samsung?
Ta.
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It terms of feature only good thing about iPad3 is its screen and everything else is disappointing but Apple does not sell its features but rather it sells a value which everyone craves and that is where all Tech companies have failed.
I might care about the specs, the Ram, Resolution and every other detail but an average person only thinks about what the products can offer him/her other than the tablets ' functionality and Apple is winning this game since it has become more of a fashion statement to own an Apple product which is why people do not bother to spend their nights in front of the store to get their products since they do not buy a product but rather they become part of Apple's ideology!
lol...................... I personally can care less but I do not understand why so many companies have failed to understand such a simple fact? :O

BarryH_GEG said:
Keep in mind that the chip destined to power the 11.6 is just in sampling right now. It's not intended to be in production until next quarter. So summer would seem about right for a launch. If they get the Tab 2's and Note 10.1 out in the next couple of weeks that'll give those devices a chance to get some press and early sales. Announcing a newer better tablet before they launch doesn't really benefit Samsung. I'm also guessing the 11.6 will probably be more expensive than the iPad3 so it'll end up being a niche product anyway. The 16GB Note 10.1 Wi-Fi is supposed to be $600 itself.
Here's the latest on the Exynos 5250 that's supposedly being used in the 11.6. Samsung specifically mentions it's for high-end tablets.
http://sammyhub.com/2012/01/27/sams...12-will-be-integrated-in-smartphones-as-well/
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Yeah I read that the chip was only sampling in Q1 this year. I thought Samsung might have made an announcement to generate excitement within the Android community and possibly beyond (Apple), especially if the rumoured specs are true.
I also agree that it will probably cost more than the iPad, although I can't see it retailing for more than £500 for the baseline model. I think around £500 is more than reasonable if the specs are true, I mean its a generation ahead compared to the new iPad CPU.
I can't see the Tab 2 and Note 10.1 doing anything at all, they are joke of releases TBH. The new iPad has made sure of that.
If Samsung want to go toe to toe with Apple then they have to get in the ring before the fight is over.

Warren_Orange said:
Yeah I read that the chip was only sampling in Q1 this year. I thought Samsung might have made an announcement to generate excitement within the Android community and possibly beyond (Apple), especially if the rumoured specs are true.
I also agree that it will probably cost more than the iPad, although I can't see it retailing for more than £500 for the baseline model. I think around £500 is more than reasonable if the specs are true, I mean its a generation ahead compared to the new iPad CPU.
I can't see the Tab 2 and Note 10.1 doing anything at all, they are joke of releases TBH. The new iPad has made sure of that.
If Samsung want to go toe to toe with Apple then they have to get in the ring before the fight is over.
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It wouldn't be smart for Samsung or anyone else to make "big" announcments timed around the major release of an Apple product; it would get either lost or get half the attention. Knowing (from suppliers) that the iPad3 was coming out March-ish a lot of stuff was announced in February. The iPad3 fanfare should die down in a couple of weeks and then the PR machines will start up again.
The G-Tab 2's could certainly be successful if Samsung prices them below the iPad3. Pretty much all high-end Android tablets are going to be a tough sell though with a new iPad2 continuing at $399 and a refurb with a full one-year warranty at $349. Asus is flooding the market with multiple Teg3-based 10.1" tablets ranging from $399-$699 so it'll be intersesting to see how Samsung positions themselves.
With press like this, high-end Android tablets are going to be a tough sell...
The iPad Wins Because Android Tablet Apps Suck: An Illustrated Guide
Do Android tablet apps really suck? Yes. Yes, they do. We take a close look, and provide examples.
By Sascha Segan March 17, 2012 09:27am EST
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401676,00.asp

Samsung have announced an 11 inch ultra book with supper high resolution screen so the screen exists but I think it could be next year before they put that screen into a tablet.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 Successor?

I thought it would be good to have a thread regarding a possible successor of the current Galaxy Note 10.1 and to post any infos and rumors here. Today I've read some leaked infos about an iPad mini rival, the Galaxy Note 8.0, which is going to be unveiled the end of February at the MWC in Barcelona.
So what do you think when and what we can expect from the real successor of the Note 10.1?
If the Galaxy S4 is going to have a eight-core CPU and FullHD resolution, I think it's also save to assume that the next model of the Note tablet will include these specs.
Any infos/rumors/thoughts?

I have read a few reports which suggest the S4 will have a 5 inch screen and the Note 3 is slated at 6.3 inches. IF this is confirmed then releasing an 8 inch Note would make no sense as Sammy would be taking sales away from its flagship devices.
I think the successor to the Note 10.1 IS the Note 10.1. LTE devices inbound. Other than screen res (which is pretty irrelevant) the 10.1 is still up there in specs.

I dont think the LTE Note is anything more than a minor update. There has to be a next generation at some point, and I think it will also be based around the S4 cpu/gpu with a 1080p screen.

stevessvt said:
I dont think the LTE Note is anything more than a minor update. There has to be a next generation at some point, and I think it will also be based around the S4 cpu/gpu with a 1080p screen.
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I am curious what the name of the next gen Note 10.1 will be. With other sammy products, S3, S4....,Note 2, Note 3....are the names and make sense.
So, where do you go with the Note 10.1 name? The Note 2 10.1?

*Inhale*
The Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Part Deux.

Note 2 10.1, just like they did with the galaxy tab 2 10.1

There's a 8" Note coming; it's supposed to be announced at MWC.
SamMobile received new information about Samsung’s new upcoming Note device the GT-N5100. At the first place the Samsung GT-N5100 will come in 2 versions GT-N5100 3G / Wi-Fi version and the GT-N5110 Wi-Fi only version. The name of GT-N5100 will be the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0. Samsung’s new upcoming Galaxy Note 8.0 will use a 8.0” 1280×800 TFT (Super Clear LCD) display, 5 megapixel back camera, 1.3 megapixel front camera, 2 GB RAM, 16/32 internal + Micro SD slot. The battery of the Galaxy Note 8.0 will be a 4600 Mah one. The Galaxy Note 8.0 will also have many ways of connectivity like Bluetooth version 4.0, USB 2.0 and Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n and A-GPS. The dimensions of the tablet will be 211.3×136.3×7.95 mm and the weight is around the 330g. Samsung’s new Note device will run on Android 4.2 called Jelly Bean.
Samsung want to introduce this new tablet at MWC 2013 in Barcelona we of SamMobile will be there!
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/17...s-specifications-of-the-gt-n5100-galaxy-note/​
As for their plans for future 10+" Android tablets that's a good question. With the fairly high spec level of the N10 at $399 that puts pricing pressure on any successor to the G-Tab 2. Samsung selling a "Samsung-ized" version of the N10 at the same price is below their typical margin. I guess they could come out with a G-Tab 3 that's higher spec than today but priced lower and spec'd lower than the N10. They could also give up that end of the market and just focus on Note tablets. The Note 10.1 has been their most successful Android tablet based on Q3 sales of 1MM a month. If that pace continues it will be a big hit for them. So I'd expect a Note 10.1 II with better specs and similar pricing about six to nine months (their typical product cycle) after the original 10.1's launch date which was August.
The SGS4/N3 rumors aren't even remotely credible. The 6.3" display rumor was one line buried in a ten paragraph story about Samsung' s (non-mobile) LCD business. The specs for the SGS4 that have been floating around have it equipped with an S Pen which doesn't make a lot of sense considering how much more an inductive display would cost and the money Samsung's spent developing the "Note" brand. Putting a 1080P inductive display on a high-volume product like the SGS4 would eat in to their margins and I can't see them wanting to do that when they charge a premium for the Note-series primarily because of S Pen and its features.

I don't really believe that we will see any "Galaxy Tab" models in the future. Some people even confuse the "Tab 10.1" with the "Note 10.1". Also the S-Pen functionality of the Galaxy Note tablets is more or less the killer feature compared to other Android tablets and to Apples iPad. I guess the name of the next model could be something like "Note 10.2" or maybe even "Note 11".

We can look for cues in related devices... A combination of Nexus 10 and ATIV Smart PC Pro! (The x86 version is called ATIV Smart PC Pro http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsu...iew_usability-touch-stylus-specs-price_Page-2)
Bring in the ATIV's docking ASUS Transformer-style keyboard
The PLS screen of the Nexus 10 but limit the resolution to 1080p (because Wacom displays might a resolution limit?)
Keep the same form factor with the front-facing landscape speakers and integrate the speakers more like the Nexus 10.

I'd really love an affordable 13"+ Note-like tablet..

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Bring in the ATIV's docking ASUS Transformer-style keyboard
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It didn't sell when Asus did it which is why no one replicated it on Android. In Q3 Asus sold 250K 10" "transformers" a month while Samsung sold 1MM Notes a month. Asus' next 10" (low-end) tablet won't have external keyboard support so even they are moving away from it. With W8 out now there's less reason to try and make Android compete as productivity devices. With or without keyboards doing true productivity work like in MS Office is painful on Android. The Note Android line of tablets was smart on Samsung's part because rather than try to replicate a tried-and-failed model (Asus) they went a different direction focusing on other types of creation.

The NEW Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
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Why a Successor? What do you want?
Captcarl

I see a note 10.1 successor coming around the second half of the year. Specs wise it'll be octa core exynos 5, hopefully somewhere around 1600x900 res or even 1080p as I find 2560x1600 to be overkill for 10" screen and you really can't appreciate it at that size. Possibly stick with 2gb ram and might then have an added 64gb option also. Of course it'll have wacom screen as well c:
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I think ill be the last person on this note 10.1 forum, ill be sticking with the note 10 untill it cant browse the net and take notes and watch youtube anymore. Not about the cash, ill just stick to updating my mobile every year like a idiot
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mafia187 said:
I think ill be the last person on this note 10.1 forum, ill be sticking with the note 10 untill it cant browse the net and take notes and watch youtube anymore. Not about the cash, ill just stick to updating my mobile every year like a idiot
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Your not alone
Why should we talk about successor when not bored with original. I feel I am yet to explore its true potential.
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tehriddler said:
We can look for cues in related devices... A combination of Nexus 10 and ATIV Smart PC Pro! (The x86 version is called ATIV Smart PC Pro http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsu...iew_usability-touch-stylus-specs-price_Page-2)
Bring in the ATIV's docking ASUS Transformer-style keyboard
The PLS screen of the Nexus 10 but limit the resolution to 1080p (because Wacom displays might a resolution limit?)
Keep the same form factor with the front-facing landscape speakers and integrate the speakers more like the Nexus 10.
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Samsung ativ Smart pc pro is about 3 times the price of note 10.1, over a kilo gram of weight and 12 mm of thickness, it is more of a laptop than of a tablet it even have cooling vents at its back
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I think the Note could use a keyboard option like the Transformer. Honestly the only reasons I chose the Note over the Transformer is because of the IR blaster and S-pen.
Hell, I don't even really use the Note that much anymore since I got an ultrabook. Keyboard is king.

The annual glut of trade shows fosters speculatiom about new products. It appears that the rumors about an 8-inch GN may be true. Engadget has an article and picture of a product box. I don't begrudge Samsung turning out new products to stay competitive. It will be interesting to see if LTE versions of this smaller tablet get rolled out earlier. Since, in theory, it should be more portable since it's smaller, I wonder if Samsung will include NFC.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/21/samsung-galaxy-note-8-at-mwc/

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-Tablets-Tab-3,20663.html

Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800 -- Best Designed Tablet Ever

I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!!

I want the 7.7 since released, but never get one here in in europe.AfterI had a nexus7 , gtab 8.9, sonyZ, asus padfone
QUOTE=JoJo2211;45183256]I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!![/QUOTE]
I want the 7.7 since release date, but never find one here in europe.After many tabs like a nexus 7, Gtab 8.9, Asus Fonepad, SonyZ, Acer and many more, i found a shop 1 month ago that get a contingent of new 7.7. In times of quadcore i buyed it for 250.- brand new and like it very much.
The best tablet i ever had.
For a 2 year old tablet its very good. better specs like the tab3 and other brand new devices. Asus present the Fonepad but the 7.7 could do this years before.
Iam so interested why no producer makes a tablet with specs like the 7.7. Thin, sdcard, umts, phonecall with 3g, 1280er display bigger then 7 inch and a very good accutime. Only the p6800 had all this like 2 years ago.

most premium looking tablet. i hope the next one is borderless since we dont usually hold this by the bezel, leave that for ipads and 10 inchers.

ThE_SoUrCe said:
most premium looking tablet. i hope the next one is borderless since we dont usually hold this by the bezel, leave that for ipads and 10 inchers.
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This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.

vbx said:
This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
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Trolls never die
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vbx said:
This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
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Enjoy your "complete" OS. Cm9 ROCKS this tablet with tremendous battery life. Btw you might want to invest 1.2k or more if you want windows 8 full with no lag, and not just the RT version since it's not a "complete" os. Oh and don't forget a shoulder bag to haul the thing in. I've messed with a few of them but the battery wasn't that impressive and they were way heavy (the guy was hauling it in a backpack). A laptop would have been a better choice than a full x86 slate IMHO, but by that time the argument is "laptop vs desktop". Rabbit trails.
Good luck!
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so no good replacement for P6800 soon ?
It's hard to find new slim, below 8", good screen and have 32GB internal tablet

The LG G Pad 8.3 looks like the next best tablet that might tempt me to upgrade my P6800
Specs look good as long as it has LTE
http://pocketnow.com/2013/09/18/lg-g-pad-8-3-price-rumored

Arobase40 said:
Very bad trolling try, you know ?
We've been stuck and skrew up during about 30 years with Windows/Microsoft/WinTel monopolistic position on the PCs, and you want more with mobile devices ???
If you want a Win8 device go to the next coming locked Toshiba Encore 8" device with Intel Atom Proc and you'll be fine, but just forget about XDA forums btw...
Toshiba is always selling locked devices (with locked bootloaders) most often impossible to root and/or to customized...
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LOL, I don't care about custom rom, root or customized bs. I just want a tablet the runs smooth. Only reason why still I have the 7.7 is because it's the only tablets that lets me send texts and make calls.

This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
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bassem.mohsen said:
This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_ifa_2013-review-980.php
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No phone capability so I guess it is more of a replacement for the P6810.
Large screen phones are a rarity. This company's Aries range looks promising though I doubt they will match the build quality of the 7.7
http://www.goclever.com/uk/products,c1/tablet,c5/

bassem.mohsen said:
This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
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No... No oled ---> ignore!

Friend of mine decided to flash off his new 8" Note 3 last week, insisted on showing everyone how good the screen quality was.
He decided to show an episode of Horizon (BBC Science TV show for overseas readers) about black holes in 720p, funnily enough I had that episode on my 6800 so we played them side by side.....everyone in the office said ".....Oooo the picture on that older one is so much better...much sharper and more vivid....." he wasn't a happy bunny!
Don't know if anyone noticed but a 6800 sold on ripbay UK last night for £180, in good nick with the box and accessories.
I've got 3 6800's and a 6810 now sitting in various docking stations doing assorted things, just wish there was an official 4.2.2 release.
Ho Hum

My 7.7 is my baby. It's my main device for everything, entertainment, odd games and portfolio device. The device I read the daily news and catch up on tech news, reviews and read xda every night in bed. My wife knows not to disturb me when I and with my baby lol.
I have a note 10.1 also which I doodle with. I have the same apps on both but I just don't find the note tab satisfying to use like the 7.7. It's not just the looks, it's the whole ergonomics also. 7.7 is the perfect size for me. Big enough to read websites on and small enough to carry around. I love how thin it is and how premium it feels.
I'm amazed that even though the device got the all clear by the courts (Apple being jealous and trying to hinder the sales) Samsung should have expanded on this design. The 10.1 is ugly at best. The 7.7 looks beautiful.. like a Porsche.
It's a shame, I am tempted by the New 2014 note 10.1, that does look nice but it still is a little off. Also I'd prefer a smaller size. And then there's no amoled. This is a big booboo.
Sadly the 7.7 is feeling the strain. It is getting old and a bit slow. I always need more ram and on the p6810 I can't use multi window. I really love this feature on my note 10.1 and would love it for the 7.7. Thing is can I justify spending a couple of hundred quid for a p6800 - an old device that I know is slow for some tasks already just to get multiwindow?
Hmmmm decisions decisions....
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Man, I love the 7.7 but since swapping (and cutting) my SIM into the new Nexus 7 FHD LTE, I haven't looked back. I rarely used the dialer on the 7.7 since I also carry a phone, and I can always make voice calls using GrooveIP if I need to.
The thinner bezel on the Nexus 7 means I can put it in most of my pockets now. The 7.7 is really chunky compared to it, and for not much more screen space. True, it isn't SAMOLED so colors aren't as punchy, but much sharper resolution. Plus, no lag! The 7.7 was always laggy, sadly

JoJo2211 said:
I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!!
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Totally agree. Just the right size, great screen, great feel... To see a 7.7 v2 for /2013/2014 would be fantastic. Screw Apple for litigating this tablet out of popularity and therefore dev support :/

Was looking at buying a new tablet a few weeks ago.
What I wanted:
1. HD AMOLED screen
2. Can make calls
3. 7-9"
4. Can install AOSP-style ROM
Nothing that you could buy new fit all these criteria except for the 7.7 which was released 2 years ago!
So I bought a 2nd hand 7.7 for $250 and haven't looked back
Only thing that I think could be improved is a faster processor and more stable custom roms and it would be perfect!

Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.

grabshell said:
Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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I really want a Note 3 but I can't give up my tablet. Hopefully, I get enough of Christmas and birthday money to cover it.

grabshell said:
Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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That is also my ultimate aim (single multi-purpose device). sm-n900 in 3 weeks ! The newer devices don't really need that much tweaking, but won't stop me trying anyway.
Still have some fun & unfinished work with this tab though, before passing it on..... keep it in the family
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