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Sound quality (headphones) and DAC

Guys please post about the sound quality, loudness and DAC used in this post. Many might get to have a hands on and they can tell us more!
And this is regarding Headphones/earbuds only. Not speakers as we alrady kow they are powerful.
Music is important to many here i am sure

ethan3686 said:
Guys please post about the sound quality, loudness and DAC used in this post. Many might get to have a hands on and they can tell us more!
And this is regarding Headphones/earbuds only. Not speakers as we alrady kow they are powerful.
Music is important to many here i am sure
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First of all the One is freaking loud and has tons of bass and the audio is really clear aswell. all these things are better than the great experience I got from the xperia Z, the decidng factor for me to choose the one over the z was the fact in headsets the one is clear, much louder and much more bass and music what I mainly use on my phone.

Thanks man..i think we discussed this in XZ thread as well..I guess both of us have the same taste in music and sound quality alongwith loudness
Did you go hands on with the HTC ONE?? And how?

Well I sure hope it sounds better than the One X & the One X+ cause they where pants.
Dreadful audio, beatsaudio is a pile of poo. Just put a good quality DAC in & Ill use Poweramp - Sorted.

@home said:
Well I sure hope it sounds better than the One X & the One X+ cause they where pants.
Dreadful audio, beatsaudio is a pile of poo. Just put a good quality DAC in & Ill use Poweramp - Sorted.
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Yes agreed! Gud quality amp makes all the difference..softwares cant replace DAC.

ethan3686 said:
Thanks man..i think we discussed this in XZ thread as well..I guess both of us have the same taste in music and sound quality alongwith loudness
Did you go hands on with the HTC ONE?? And how?
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I went down to Phones 4 u, oxford street (bond street) shortly after the launch to play with it, to see if it was worth changing to the one from the z and from my 3min play with the one, i pre ordered it. then went back to play with it some more.
I found the camera/video and video sound better than the side not a major difference but i thought images were sharper and audio was alot better on video (my opinion)
sound in headphones is far better than the z in clarity, loudness and bass (fact)
screen is better (fact)
I also find the UI on the one to be better (my opinion)
phone is faster and smoother than the z (fact)
obviously loud speaker is better (fact)
also when watching movies you can take pics with a dedicated on screen button rather than holding down power button/down on volume button which didn't work all the time.(fact)
things I didn't like about the one is no memory card slot and the fact in the menu you have to scroll up/down instead of left/right not a biggy though.
this is not to say the z is rubbish as it really isn't but just in major areas I find the one better.
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Well I sure hope it sounds better than the One X & the One X+ cause they where pants.
Dreadful audio, beatsaudio is a pile of poo. Just put a good quality DAC in & Ill use Poweramp - Sorted.
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Audio is far better than one x and one x+ imo. for the first time on a phone I wont have to use power amp.

Does anyone knows wich DAC does the s600 use? Audio quality is my main concern and a quality DAC like the wolfson found on the exynos 4 and the cirrus found on the iPhone 5.
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Wow cool man..Its always nice to hear from a person who has had a hands on experience.
Just few questions..
1. Like in butterfly the speaker and headphones had separate amps..does HTC ONE also has one for headphones? i know it has for speakers.
2. Does it feel smaller in hand? i mean its 4.7 screen is taller rather than wider [breadth]..so does that make it look like iphone 5?

ethan3686 said:
Wow cool man..Its always nice to hear from a person who has had a hands on experience.
Just few questions..
1. Like in butterfly the speaker and headphones had separate amps..does HTC ONE also has one for headphones? i know it has for speakers.
2. Does it feel smaller in hand? i mean its 4.7 screen is taller rather than wider [breadth]..so does that make it look like iphone 5?
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despite being taller than the s3, it certainly doesnt feel it. It also feels somewhat smaller than the z (even though on paper it is minimal) and better to hold in the hand despite being thicker but thats it because the back is rounded.
I dont know if it has a amp for the headphone jack but based on that experience it really doesn't need one if it doesn't have one that thing is crazily loud and bassy.
Infact i couldnt even have it on max volume just like with 8x otherwise you'll lose your hearing whereas on the xperia z i wish it was a bit louder tbh and I proved that I was right today because I went down oxford street played with it in the three store again and I could hear noise from the traffic outside and the sales assistant that was talking to me which isnt good imo. I like my music loud so when i am outside i cant hear a thing and also bassy aswell and the one covers this by far.
it does sort of resumble a iphone 5 in the way it looks tbh.
I just cannot wait until the 15th its pain staking that I waited so long for the z and now its nearly here now i have another long wait for the one.

Thanks for the inputs..I understand how u feel man..Same here...XZ is round the corner but ONE is coming on 15 march india..Patience has its limits too

Great device. I want to love it. But history tells us that thus far nobody has delivered outstanding audio from a Qualcomm SOC. I hope this is the one where they prove me wrong!
Audio aside, this could be the one where HTC finally takes a BIG bite out of Samsung. Except for audio concerns, I would be ordering one today! I will be anxiously awaiting tests.

R89SONY said:
I went down to Phones 4 u, oxford street (bond street) shortly after the launch to play with it, to see if it was worth changing to the one from the z and from my 3min play with the one, i pre ordered it. then went back to play with it some more.
I found the camera/video and video sound better than the side not a major difference but i thought images were sharper and audio was alot better on video (my opinion)
sound in headphones is far better than the z in clarity, loudness and bass (fact)
screen is better (fact)
I also find the UI on the one to be better (my opinion)
phone is faster and smoother than the z (fact)
obviously loud speaker is better (fact)
also when watching movies you can take pics with a dedicated on screen button rather than holding down power button/down on volume button which didn't work all the time.(fact)
things I didn't like about the one is no memory card slot and the fact in the menu you have to scroll up/down instead of left/right not a biggy though.
this is not to say the z is rubbish as it really isn't but just in major areas I find the one better.
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Audio is far better than one x and one x+ imo. for the first time on a phone I wont have to use power amp.
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I ordered Silver, can u tell me how is viewing angle between Z and One ? which one do you feel more premium feel?

Viewing Angles is easy: the Z has a TN panel (which results in very bad viewing angles, as some sites such as phonearena suggest). SLCD3 still uses IPS as far as I know and on some pictures it was clear that the viewing angles are still superb
Just one glint at a picture of the Z and it was clear to me that the display just doesn't meet the expectations. Blacks and saturation/contrast in general are terrible. What's the point of 1080p, where you see the difference to 720p in some cases when you look closely when at first glance the contrast/blacks totally turn you off?

onlinejobwork said:
I ordered Silver, can u tell me how is viewing angle between Z and One ? which one do you feel more premium feel?
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viewing angles and infact the whole screen was just better on the one not to say i think the z is rubbish, just that the htc is better. also i feel that the one is more premium due to aluminium design again not to say the z doesnt feel premium. TBH the z is a great phone just the one is a greater phone and i believe had htc used 16gb memory + memory card slot or even have the 64gb version in the uk it would sell more phones as I know people complain about only having 32gb (about 26gb free memory).

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viewing angles and infact the whole screen was just better on the one not to say i think the z is rubbish, just that the htc is better. also i feel that the one is more premium due to aluminium design again not to say the z doesnt feel premium. TBH the z is a great phone just the one is a greater phone and i believe had htc used 16gb memory + memory card slot or even have the 64gb version in the uk it would sell more phones as I know people complain about only having 32gb (about 26gb free memory).
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It has 64GB version.
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AayushDhuria said:
It has 64GB version.
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I believe the 64Gb version is US-only (Or NA-only).

AayushDhuria said:
It has 64GB version.
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Where can I find it?

Is good :good:

Audio will be as outstanding as htc butterfly if not better and thats best sounding phone according to gsmarena htc butterfly review as ONE has same DAC. Read the review of butterfly at gsmarena to go in more details
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Audio will be as outstanding as htc butterfly if not better and thats best sounding phone according to gsmarena htc butterfly review as ONE has same DAC. Read the review of butterfly at gsmarena to go in more details
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http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_butterfly-review-888p7.php
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Noise/dynamic range have not measured up to iphone & samsung/wolfson on any snapdragon phone to date. I hope this is the one.
I wish somebody would test hacked Android phones. For example, all the reviews whine about low volume but it is a five minute root/file edit on many phones.

[VIDEO] HTC One vs Galaxy S4 (in car footage test, front and rear video)

Alright, well here's the conditions to the best that I can remember.
Focus not locked. Didn't see an option for that in the Galaxy S4 menu. Galaxy S4 software based stabilization was not turned on. Anyone want a redo with it on? Hardware stabilization was on for the HTC One.
Also have the Optimus G Pro, Note 2, and iPhone 5 available for tests if requested.
Front facing camera vs rear. Thoughts?
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Software stabilization turned on for the GS4. Does anyone know if this actually use pan and zooming to stabilize the image? I'm guessing it does and there is no other way to combat shake.
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On my trip to Colorado I added a low light test. I was pretty drowsy. Just woke up from a rest stop nap!
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Tried to let the HTC One redeem itself in the audio department. No cases and subject (me) is in front of the camera. No bouncing the sound off of a windshield. It is definitely quiet than the S4, but turn up the volume and let me know what you think.

Seems like the s4 audio sounds better. The HTC one audio sounds echo-ey. As far as the video, they look similar in quality but the viewing angle is wider on the one. I think I prefer the zoomed in on the s4.
Man, I keep going back and forth on these two phones
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the s4 is a vibratorrrrrr

The HTC video is much sharper
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The One video seems more color accurate and the OIS really stands out when mounted in a car like this, and obviously has a wider FoV. But the S4 has much better audio recording quality (the One had some weird occasional popping going on too).
As far as front facing cameras, again the One has a wide FoV, but the color seems better on the S4's. Whether or not the One is color accurate on the front facing cam, the S4's just plain looks better.
Here's hoping HTC has a firmware update to address the audio quality coming, because if they fix that then the One takes this victory.

arikah said:
The One video seems more color accurate and the OIS really stands out when mounted in a car like this, and obviously has a wider FoV. But the S4 has much better audio recording quality (the One had some weird occasional popping going on too).
As far as front facing cameras, again the One has a wide FoV, but the color seems better on the S4's. Whether or not the One is color accurate on the front facing cam, the S4's just plain looks better.
Here's hoping HTC has a firmware update to address the audio quality coming, because if they fix that then the One takes this victory.
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I'd say that is pretty much what I feel.

This is great. thanks for taking the time do do this.

HTC video looks rather cold.
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Added a test with software stabilization turned on for the GS4.

Piaband said:
Seems like the s4 audio sounds better. The HTC one audio sounds echo-ey. As far as the video, they look similar in quality but the viewing angle is wider on the one. I think I prefer the zoomed in on the s4.
Man, I keep going back and forth on these two phones
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If you do a youtube search for HTC One Concert you will find a lot of really great audio recordings by the HTC One. I don't know why it was inferior in the car but I've heard other recordings with the HTC One where the audio sounded great. My own recordings with this phone sound much better than this video.

Riggster said:
If you do a youtube search for HTC One Concert you will find a lot of really great audio recordings by the HTC One. I don't know why it was inferior in the car but I've heard other recordings with the HTC One where the audio sounded great. My own recordings with this phone sound much better than this video.
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In the comments on the video he says the holder it's in is blocking the rear mic. That's why the audio is bad on the ONE no way to fix a huge obstruction like a holder no matter how good the mic is.

I've done three tests. Do you think it's just the output levels? Seems pretty strange.
I didn't see any options and everything is being processed in the same fashion.
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Actually the holder had a very narrow grip. I was noting that if the audio was directed toward the lens it might sound better. Instead in these tests there is a big ole windshield.
I'll figure something out!
Any suggestions are welcome.
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The audio quality of the s4 whilst recording videos continues to suprise me ! Very impressive.
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The mic on the HTC one is on the back, right next to the camera. The sound from the HTC One is echo'ed because it is actually being bounced off the windshield.
The mic on the S4 is on the bottom near the charging port I believe.
Great comparison video. The S4 seems much sharper and has better color.
Can you please do one in low-light? (night time driving) Would love it.
Nice FR-S btw. Ignore the riceburner comments, they are kids who don't know jack about cars. The FR-S is a great great car.

superb comparison.. what car are you testing it in btw? looks like the seats of an 86.
EDIT: oh my bad - was originally watching without audio (at work).. just heard you mention you're in the FRS (Scion's version of the 86).. Buddy, that supercharged engine sounds AWESOME.

Zexell said:
The mic on the HTC one is on the back, right next to the camera. The sound from the HTC One is echo'ed because it is actually being bounced off the windshield.
The mic on the S4 is on the bottom near the charging port I believe.
Great comparison video. The S4 seems much sharper and has better color.
Can you please do one in low-light? (night time driving) Would love it.
Nice FR-S btw. Ignore the riceburner comments, they are kids who don't know jack about cars. The FR-S is a great great car.
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Thanks. I'm driving to Colorado in my wife's Audi (from Houston). Right before the sun comes up I'll mount the phones.
I also want to do a comparison at some point with a GoPro 3 Black Edition.
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superb comparison.. what car are you testing it in btw? looks like the seats of an 86.
EDIT: oh my bad - was originally watching without audio (at work).. just heard you mention you're in the FRS (Scion's version of the 86).. Buddy, that supercharged engine sounds AWESOME.
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I want your FR-S... Please? Pretty please?
And awesome comparison video btw!

The S4 is a great phone with great specs,if only samsung chose better materials and design they would have seduce me

I'd like to see how a Samsung phone made with metal would sell.
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On my trip to Colorado I added a low light test. I was pretty drowsy. Just woke up from a rest stop nap!

Video Recording Test With a Jet Fly By

Just picked up this phone a week ago and I was very sceptical at first. Being a long time Samsung user and a fan of TW I'd thought I couldn't get used to the Sense..
But the phone is still in my hands. Not because of battery life, or screen. But because of the amazing sound out of those tiny speakers. Today I went to a local air show and thought I'd see how the mic's would enjoy some extreme loud scenarios.
As you will here, the One does exceptionally well. I've taken many cell phones to concert events and hockey games that just can't record properly when under anything loud.
This is also by far the loudest I have ever recorded a video before. The video does not do it justice. A F-18 flying that close, I can't describe it. You can feel it in your chest.
Anyways, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VeKXztMeo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Wow.... I have recorded airshows with a camcorder that doesn't have the audio quality of that video
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WOW!!! I told people who were worried about having a bad mic on this phone to record a jet (in the general forum somewhere), would never have guessed that it would turn out sooo AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing
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Awesome. Guess that dual membrane mic is a heavy hitter . can't believe how great that sounds. Concert recorders will love this phone
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I have some great recordings too. Best phone ever.
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Crystal clear. I really haven't record any video on the phone but taken lots of pictures and watch movies on it.
I had the dark night rises gassing on the phone and everyone wanted to see
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dtblair24 said:
... Concert recorders will love this phone
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You're damn right! Went to a Muse concert recently, the sound is just great!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQE4RFw11XM
(Video resolution was edited by the gallery with which I uploaded I guess, original is much higher quality)

I'd beg to differ. Yes, the HTC One records really loud sounds, but for some reason it sounds like the audio is coming out of a plastic cup or something. It sounds hollow for some reason ): I've seen quite a few vids of the One recording audio as well. Not sure why this is though /:

I've had a lot of phones (as you can see) and the One has the best audio recording I have experienced. My brother in law recorded the same fly by with his S2 Skyrocket and it was terrible.
I'll have the S4 soon (phone whore here) and I'll be amazed if it can beat the one in terms of audio recording / playback.
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g2tegg said:
I've had a lot of phones (as you can see) and the One has the best audio recording I have experienced. My brother in law recorded the same fly by with his S2 Skyrocket and it was terrible.
I'll have the S4 soon (phone whore here) and I'll be amazed if it can beat the one in terms of audio recording / playback.
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It probably won't record audio that is as loud as a jet plane, but normal recording the S4 seems to handle audio better from what I've seen. For some reason, the HTC One has a weird hollow feel to their audio ): I hope that it's fixable in software ):

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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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Rippley05 said:
The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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Do you have one? Or speculation? Just wondering
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He's been bashing the M8 all day. Camera is decent just not enough megapixels for his liking.

Tell me that the photos from Engadget are fake!
They look horrible

Ive seen a couple short hands on reviews that say the M8 pics are no better than the M7. The only thing the M8 has going for it in the camera department is speed and that new refocusing feature....which one reviewer said doesnt really work that well. Hmmm

They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/

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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?

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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Now they look good! I got scared at first, now here's the answer
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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Yeah, um, those Flickr photos look more than acceptable for me. I don't need the best camera if I'm getting the best screen, audio quality, and experience that the M8 will surely offer as the M7 did. The camera is literally secondary (or, well, further than that) than all of those areas and, even then, it's not really bad at all.

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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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NO.
NOT ENOUGH MEGAPIXELS.
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In all seriousness, when it comes down to cutting costs on a smartphone design, camera would be the first thing on my list too. Would you rather it be made of cheap plastic, not have front facing speakers or have a smaller battery?
I'd take superior hardware/build over a great camera any day. I know we want it all, but it seems like we just can't have it all. At least not til the M9.
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.

JCorona said:
I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.
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IMAG0065 that night time pic...looks really really really bad. but for the most part its not bad. Matter of fact all the night time ones are really bad towards the end .

In complete and utter seriousness guys (not being a fanboy either) I was MORE than pleased with the camera on the M7. That was my primary concern that I debated over for months before getting the M7 - giving up my iPhone 5 which took awesome pics was a difficult choice. Hands down, I'm more than excited to get back to Android (had to go back to my iPhone 5 due to selling my M7). The true wide angle 16:9 is so awesome and the pics were great. Overall, I felt like I was able to regularly capture more accurate color representations with the M7. Low light was pretty great too.
I will say, there were a few times where I was left wishing I could crop to a larger size and retain image quality. However, for me personally, it wasn't a big enough issue for me to ditch the phone, as I don't need to do that often enough. If you're someone who is perpetually cropping, this probably isn't going to work for you.
Also, I used to have an album of pics I took on my phone to show people when they'd play with it. I received soooo many compliments on the pics I took and more people saying "This phone has such an amazing camera" never knowing it was only 1/2 the MP's as their phones.
I understand and agree with the major drawbacks of it, however, as an overall quick shooter to the ability to take your time and change settings to get an optimal pic, it blew me away quite a few times. That's more than I could ever say about my iPhone.
Addition: there was a thread I saw with M7 vs. M8 photos and the colors looked quite a bit better and more crisp on the M8. I'm excited to see what I can do with it.

although the MP is disappointing, the strengths of the phone outweigh a blunder such as that I think. It's not like the camera is crap, it's just average for current times. We just had higher expectations as we should have especially compared to last year's. I would say the camera is "adequate"

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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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I have the phone actually. Not just making assumptions and the camera isn't bad. The software is awesome.
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I want to see how the slow motion video is. I love that and use it all the time to record my son's sports.
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Thanks! Much better indeed. These are more than acceptable for my use.

The MKBHD first impression video of the camera shows off it's strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlt_2X8sPw

im not sure about anyone else but i really dont take many pics at night or in low light. so the camera is fine for me. i will have it on thursday so i'll find out how well it works for me soon

Offtopic : worth changing?

Hi Guys,
I am a proud owner of an m7ul device and I am torn between the M8 and the M7...
My main concern is the speaker and Sound....will it be that bassy? (deep sounds)
lack of ois? and mic quality?
With the m7 I could stand next to the biggest speaker during a concert....and no distortion at all...
Will it be the same? ((
Thanks in advance

It's better.
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zimilaci said:
Hi Guys,
I am a proud owner of an m7ul device and I am torn between the M8 and the M7...
My main concern is the speaker and Sound....will it be that bassy? (deep sounds)
lack of ois? and mic quality?
With the m7 I could stand next to the biggest speaker during a concert....and no distortion at all...
Will it be the same? ((
Thanks in advance
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Are you talking about recording next to a big speaker? If so, I have never done that so I can't compare that to my old m7. Completely honest opinion here. Pro's and cons when comparing with m7… Speakers sound the same to me, and I actually don't like the fact that you can't turn off the boomsound feature as you could turn off beats in the m7. I listen to metal and once I get the volume cranking, it really struggles with the double bass in the background. The m7 did this too, but you could turn off beats and it sounded better at high volume. I know they say they are 20% louder but it sounds about the same to me. Mic quality on phone call is great, as it should be in 2014. I'm not sure if that is the kind of mic quality you are talking about. Speed is noticeably faster. Wifi signal is outstanding, and cell signal is about on par with all flagship phones. Battery is simply amazing. Screen size is nice too. Motion gestures are a big plus to me. I know you could load kernels on m7 but they really do put a draw on the battery. Ext sd card is nice. Duo camera is kind of neat, but I wish they would have gone a different route with the camera. Soff within 10 days is awesome. These are just my opinions.

Really worth it mate...i also have the m7 with purple issue on the camera...little bit disappointed but htc really knows how to build a beautiful phone and I couldn't resist it...i picked M8 and so far no complaints at all...simply perfect!
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