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dont understand crappy audio

I dont understand it.. samsung sells video cameras ... if they sold one with the crapy audio of our phone no one would buy it and they wouldnt sell any.
So they know how to record acceptable audio.. Why cannot they tweek the audio settings when you start camera to record acceptable audio (assuming they need to be different than for a phone) and change back when exiting/using phone?

What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.

andrewluecke said:
What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.
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It's way too sensitive... I recorded a concert (and a drive in teh car) and the audio was crap. Distorted in the car, unbearable in concert (way distorted/nosiy... literally couldn't hear the actual music).
Saw other videos with phones and they were MUCH better (audio wise). And no, it wasn't an extremely loud concert.

I think the audio is really good for a phone this size. Are you comparing it to a bose system or what? Lol
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I had the same problem with Omnia HD. The sound of videos was so poor too. It was resolved by firmware update, where the audio codec was updated.
Anyone knows if exists any firmware with an acceptable sound quality of recorded videos on i9000??
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Playback is great, it is the recording that is a bit crazy, the mic is super sensitive.. hopefully they can adjust this in a firmware.

True i was in rally few days ago and recorded some videos from there , video quality was awesome but sound was terrible. Too sensitive mic!

Impressed by 720p capture, very disappointed with the audio.
Case in point: Recording as of today: youtube.com/watch?v=oQPov5mUTm8
not loud inside at all, just some general background noise.
Using latest official firmware from Samsung JG4 (Optus Aus)

It has one mic, designed for minimising out ambient noise during a phone call, you can't really expect it to be good at recording a concert.

Bs my kids 5800 an my wives n 85 and other Nokia phones all recorded acceptable audio.
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OP, your meaning of "audio" should be more carefully explained.
DO you mean:
1) Audio playback?
or
2) Audio recording?
My guess is #2. Yes, the microphone is quite sensitive. There were tons of people using the Samsung Omnia ( the prior generation android smartphone) who complained about the microphone NOT being sensitive enough. So Samsung decided to make the mic more sensitive.

How is the video camera's audio?

I am wanting to pick one up today but I would like to know if the audio on the video recording is good? I have an EVO 4g and if i try to take a video at a concert or loud setting it is worthless. I would like to be able to record live music and have it sound decent, is it possible with an unmodded S3?

+1 on this.
I have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus and the audio is absolutely worthless in a concert setting. I came from the Droid X and it actually performed quite well in that same setting so I was disappointed with the GNex. I have an SGIII preordered through Verizon and I'm hoping the audio won't crack up and break like the GNex does.

my brother has the droid razr and he just recorded a bunch of a recent Roger Waters The Wall concert and it was great for a phone, if the S3 is as good as that I would be happy.

I went to the Coldplay concert last week, I'll upload the vid and give you the link when it's done. I'll be honest, the sound quality gets distorted when the bass kicks in.
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That's what I kept experiencing with the GNex. There was an acoustic song that sounded fine, but as soon as bass kicked in, to crap it went.

I tested mine at a concert the other night and the video was decent but audio was horribly distorted and static filled. My old BB Torch will be kept around for concert videos until I decide to buy a separate video camera. Kinda disappointed actually...but so far that seems to be my only complaint with this phone and since it's a phone and not a video camera that's ok by me really since I have a way of recording other than this phone.
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the audio on video recording is, maybe, the only flaw I can see on this device. Fortunately it is not a dealbreaker for me

Here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikkinSN4wew&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Audio capture in loud environment, Horrible!

The SIII for U.S variants has the S4 DAC. I recorded a video in an indoor concert/club recently and the audio quality sucks! There is too much bass in the audio making it crack/distort beyond! Is there any type of way to reduce mic gain? Has anyone tried recording with the headset plugged in? I heard that reduces the bass level a bit...
Voodoo will come to the SIII, but I hope it will come to the U.S models since it doesn't have Wolfson.

Try the LGcamera app, it's got a video recording feature that allows you to decide which microphone(s) and bit rates you want to use. Experiment with it

Gadgetz said:
Try the LGcamera app, it's got a video recording feature that allows you to decide which microphone(s) and bit rates you want to use. Experiment with it
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Do I set the mic to microphone, default or camcorder? They all sound the same. Haven't tested in loud environment though...
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contentryder said:
The SIII for U.S variants has the S4 DAC. I recorded a video in an indoor concert/club recently and the audio quality sucks! There is too much bass in the audio making it crack/distort beyond! Is there any type of way to reduce mic gain? Has anyone tried recording with the headset plugged in? I heard that reduces the bass level a bit...
Voodoo will come to the SIII, but I hope it will come to the U.S models since it doesn't have Wolfson.
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Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
A bit off topic of your use case, but I've always been of the opinion that shows are loud to prevent piracy of the show, because being up front it's more than loud enough to damage your hearing.

Milk Tea said:
Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
A bit off topic of your use case, but I've always been of the opinion that shows are loud to prevent piracy of the show, because being up front it's more than loud enough to damage your hearing.
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Galaxy S with voodoo sound! Not only concerts, but maybe clubs etc
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contentryder said:
Do I set the mic to microphone, default or camcorder? They all sound the same. Haven't tested in loud environment though...
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I'm not too sure, try it in the different configs and see which sounds the best for you. I haven't tried it myself but heard it helps with the issue you brought up.

Milk Tea said:
Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
A bit off topic of your use case, but I've always been of the opinion that shows are loud to prevent piracy of the show, because being up front it's more than loud enough to damage your hearing.
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iPhone can handle loud environments without issue.
The Galaxy SII also had this same problem, there was either none, or very bad automatic gain control. All loud audio was recorded very distorted. I'd love to find a fix for this!

Milk Tea said:
Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
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sadly the iPhone 4 sounds great in clubs or concerts
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Enjoy the club or concert, don't be a troll getting in people's way with your sub par camera phone.... unless it's totally epic
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This is an Android problem, not a Samsung one. Basically the hardware drivers are extremely primitive. I am a musician and therefore look for audio apps all the time, and there just aren't any because Android's audio is just too primitive. There is NO way to adjust the gain down, only up. If you don't believe me, Google audio gain and Android and you'll find a lot of stuff. Latency is a also huge issue, and that's why apps like Songify don't exist.
I wanted to record my band practices with my phone too. It's impossible. I use an iPod touch with an I rig mike instead.
It's really a shame Google just doesn't care about audio, ICS fixed nothing.
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sluzbenik said:
This is an Android problem, not a Samsung one. Basically the hardware drivers are extremely primitive. I am a musician and therefore look Ford audio apps all the time, and there just aren't any because Android's audio is just too primitive. There is NO way to adjust the gain down, only up. If you don't believe me, Google audio gain and Android and you'll find a lot of stuff. Latency is a huge issue, and that's why apps like Songify don't exist.
I wanted to record my band practices with my phone too. It's impossible. I use an iPod touch with an I rig mike instead.
It's really a shame Google just doesn't care about audio, ICS fixed nothing.
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All this is true
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Goodbye, girl.
I recorded some footage of "Squeeze" playing the other night in Westbury, NY.
wow.. i can't post a link to youtube. I love this board as a resource, but I don't know how I'll ever be able to participate with all of these rules!!!
ANYWHO, the sound quality is amazing to me and if anyone knows of a good way for me to share it with everyone please let me know! also, these captchas are impossible.

sluzbenik said:
This is an Android problem, not a Samsung one. Basically the hardware drivers are extremely primitive. I am a musician and therefore look for audio apps all the time, and there just aren't any because Android's audio is just too primitive. There is NO way to adjust the gain down, only up. If you don't believe me, Google audio gain and Android and you'll find a lot of stuff. Latency is a also huge issue, and that's why apps like Songify don't exist.
I wanted to record my band practices with my phone too. It's impossible. I use an iPod touch with an I rig mike instead.
It's really a shame Google just doesn't care about audio, ICS fixed nothing.
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Hmm I see songify in the play store? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smule.songify&hl=en
Also, that new Nokia pureview phone has an amazing camcorder. There was a video of a concert recorded with that phone and it looks and sounds amazing.

Milk Tea said:
Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
A bit off topic of your use case, but I've always been of the opinion that shows are loud to prevent piracy of the show, because being up front it's more than loud enough to damage your hearing.
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Stock DROIDx had a concert mode and it worked very well
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maybe someone can import the camera apk from the droidx...

Is the audio when recording and shooting video fixed?

The S4 and Note 3 have this issue, random and quite annoying popping when recording audio. I was really disappointed when I heard it on the Note 3! Hopefully it has been fixed on the S5!
Can anyone confirm whether or not it's there?

popping? my s4 never had any pops. it recorded amazing audio.
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cpufrost said:
The S4 and Note 3 have this issue, random and quite annoying popping when recording audio. I was really disappointed when I heard it on the Note 3! Hopefully it has been fixed on the S5!
Can anyone confirm whether or not it's there?
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We'll see when I get mine. I'll let you know. But I think, it'll not be there for some S4 and Note 3, there's no popping when they record.

I've had numerous S4 and Note III samples through my hands and they have this issue. It's not an isolated issue. My Note II, HTC One, G2, iPhone 3/4/5s etc. have no such issues whatsoever. Normally I record video and audio separately but the argument (the best camera is the one you have with you) applies to a cell phone to capture things as they happen, unplanned. It's annoying to have these sounds in the audio.

cpufrost said:
The S4 and Note 3 have this issue, random and quite annoying popping when recording audio. I was really disappointed when I heard it on the Note 3! Hopefully it has been fixed on the S5!
Can anyone confirm whether or not it's there?
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Do you have an example of the issue?

weird i never experienced such thing on s3, n2, s4..

like I said, I've recorded plenty of guitar videos with my s4, through a Marshall dsl100 stack, which is loud and bassy, and it never ever ever had a problem with audio. it was always so clear and detailed, albeit only 128kbps. my g2 has that horrible underwater wishy-washy sound that makes the video camera unusable. I've never once seen audio artifacting on the s4. I had the snapdragon version, maybe you had the exynos?
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my audio was terrible on my S3 when recording video at festivals/concerts...hope this is fixed on the S5...everyone i know that has iPhones has no issue recording loud audio.

jayochs said:
like I said, I've recorded plenty of guitar videos with my s4, through a Marshall dsl100 stack, which is loud and bassy, and it never ever ever had a problem with audio. it was always so clear and detailed, albeit only 128kbps. my g2 has that horrible underwater wishy-washy sound that makes the video camera unusable. I've never once seen audio artifacting on the s4. I had the snapdragon version, maybe you had the exynos?
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Yes the problem is not with loud music like other devices which hard clip especially on kick drum hits...
This popping noise is most common when it's very quiet like recording at night with just the crickets outside...
And yes the audio was completely unusable on the G2 for me as well, if you recorded video in a loud cafe, no problem. But as soon as you went into a quiet area the gain levelers started getting really confused and there was all kinds of problems with sound. Ashame too since its camera (G2) was so nice...
Back to the S5, I have one in hand and while I have not put it through the gears my preliminary findings reveal a completely changed recording from the S4/Note3 hardware. The AGC does tend to bring up the levels higher when ambient sound changes but at least there's no nasty pops. The pops on the S4/Note3 can be removed with a click/decrackle plugin on most DAW software but they shouldn't be in there in the first place. This looks promising.
The video low light performance looks very good, I was shining a focused down aspheric torch (flashlight) around the pasture at long range and the screen was 100% black except where the beam was hitting objects at hundreds of yards away (barn, trees, etc.) and the detail looked shockingly good! I viewed the video on my Macbook Pro w/ retina display so it's a valid test.
Have not tried to see if it's IR filtered. Tonight we'll have the burn barrels going, that's the best IR test I know of without taking it to the lab.
These processors are so powerful it would be nice if they gave us the option of lossless audio recording and even a RAW photo option, although these tiny sensors would need a LOT of post processing to make the images useable. Still, however I always find that RAW+ Photoshop CS6 post processing looks better than the camera's aggressive post processing tuned for speed and convenience. With a 128GB microSD card, RAW+JPG would be fine.
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This is not me/my video, but this is exactly how it sounds. Both the S4 and Note3 do the same exact thing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngwTBJ5ew08
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my audio was terrible on my S3 when recording video at festivals/concerts...hope this is fixed on the S5...everyone i know that has iPhones has no issue recording loud audio.
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Yep, I have several concerts recorded in 2012 and the audio clips worse than these kids with their pyramid amp powered systems playing hip hop with the bass turned to 11!
That's why I always record audio and video on separate devices. They won't allow a real camera (no cams with removable lenses that is!) in most venues...

I was at a gig on Friday night and sadly all my videos have distorted sound quality. Issue stll exists..
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I'm just back from a gig, i took a vid it seems fine on the phone a little blown out, but then again i was pretty near the speakers.

prot- said:
I was at a gig on Friday night and sadly all my videos have distorted sound quality. Issue stll exists..
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Yep, common issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka0Oa4HYr6Y

I can confirm the popping is present in my unit too. Had it on S4 as well. It tends to occur less when the sound is turned to minimum while recording.
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Live concert demo video/sound

First of all, I took the earphones protective plastic off them and put it to protect the camera, so don't know if the quality got affected, don't think so.
After 40 sec after the intro in the first video, the sound quality gets better.
The sound is better than live actually in the first example at least, it was way too loud in there, I didn't hear that well live as in the video lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNLTaUm0DqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57kIGWxEjC4 (It was damn loud)
What do you think? I think it's over average.

Shebee said:
First of all, I took the earphones protective plastic off them and put it to protect the camera, so don't know if the quality got affected, don't think so.
After 40 sec after the intro, the sound quality gets better.
The sound is better than live actually, it was way too loud in there, I didn't hear that well live as in the video lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNLTaUm0DqA
What do you think? I think it's over average.
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Thats one way to get views lol, but honestly, very had to tell on picture quality as all i can see is black and blue, sound is loud and clear.

Sound is very good. My nexus 5 failed on sound on a similar recording in a nightclub it became very distorted.
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Video might not be that great but the audio really blew me away.
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Shebee said:
Video might not be that great but the audio really blew me away.
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Well actually the video isn't *that* bad, especially the parts where that crap blue light isn't the primary light that's shining. Audio quality of course was very good.
I think the recording turned out quite good, I've seen live shows with more professional cameras that did a worst job so the device you used really wasn't all that bad at all, for a mobile device.
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Yeah,the lights were flashing like crazy, I think if I would've been closer it might have turned out great. But nonetheless the sound is awesome.
Had anyone else recorded live music with the m8 or any other phone for that matter?
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Shebee said:
First of all, I took the earphones protective plastic off them and put it to protect the camera, so don't know if the quality got affected, don't think so.
After 40 sec after the intro, the sound quality gets better.
The sound is better than live actually, it was way too loud in there, I didn't hear that well live as in the video lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNLTaUm0DqA
What do you think? I think it's over average.
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The plastic will definitely affect quality, how much can vary. It is mass produced plastic with a very high tolerance for variances. It will be thicker in areas & thinner on others, on the order of microns probably, but could be enough to cause distortion. Hard to tell in the lighting how or if it was affected. As other mentioned, the audio is great.

Hey Guys,
I no its against the rules, but how can I make up my mind other than this...
I have an m7 and for me the main things are :
- speaker quality (m8 should be better right? deeper sounds, louder etc..)
- Camera (lack of ois I find disturbing)
- Mic quality???
I recorded this with m7 next to a f..huge speaker and the bass came out just right... will it be the same for the m8?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngHojF9dyv8 (sorry about the music, its not that good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJK9mk1mXE8&feature=youtu.be
check this out
the image is moveing strange?

zimilaci said:
Hey Guys,
I no its against the rules, but how can I make up my mind other than this...
I have an m7 and for me the main things are :
- speaker quality (m8 should be better right? deeper sounds, louder etc..)
- Camera (lack of ois I find disturbing)
- Mic quality???
I recorded this with m7 next to a f..huge speaker and the bass came out just right... will it be the same for the m8?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngHojF9dyv8 (sorry about the music, its not that good
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Took this short clip today, yes it was LOUD.
The video is really crappy though, don't know why it's so dark...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57kIGWxEjC4
Sound awesome again!

Shebee said:
Took this short clip today, yes it was LOUD.
The video is really crappy though, don't know why it's so dark...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57kIGWxEjC4
Sound awesome again!
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I just bought the M8 today so thanks anyway )) now going back on stock with m7 (its gonna be tough

Shebee said:
Took this short clip today, yes it was LOUD.
The video is really crappy though, don't know why it's so dark...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57kIGWxEjC4
Sound awesome again!
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Yes, its quite good I am comparing the HTC m7 and m8 currently (Girlfriend has the m7 now and I have a few months to find out whether the m8 is for me or not... anyway what I found out from the HTC support, that the m8 has also dual membrane microphone, but they werent giving out any details..like brand or whatever...
I hope the lack of OIS will not be a big issue...how do you guys see that?

zimilaci said:
Yes, its quite good I am comparing the HTC m7 and m8 currently (Girlfriend has the m7 now and I have a few months to find out whether the m8 is for me or not... anyway what I found out from the HTC support, that the m8 has also dual membrane microphone, but they werent giving out any details..like brand or whatever...
I hope the lack of OIS will not be a big issue...how do you guys see that?
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Lack of OIS is a big issue. That's why I gonna stick with M7. It's real downgrade. Video are very shaky. Shooting movie with one hand gonna be unacceptable.
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alangrig said:
Lack of OIS is a big issue. That's why I gonna stick with M7. It's real downgrade. Video are very shaky. Shooting movie with one hand gonna be unacceptable.
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In general a big issue, or you are taking videos while you are moving? :S for example from a moving car, or I dont know... in concert it should be no problem...
and the htc one reduces the framerate in darker env...
(ps I am also not sure how to or what to do ..keep it or not +

zimilaci said:
In general a big issue, or you are taking videos while you are moving? :S for example from a moving car, or I dont know... in concert it should be no problem...
and the htc one reduces the framerate in darker env...
(ps I am also not sure how to or what to do ..keep it or not +
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Well lets take a simple real situation. I very often take video of my son, who does karate sport. Taking steady video of my son with M7 preserving stable image on any distance while he accomplishes performance is very easy. Even on big screen pictures looks very stable. Shooting video under mentioned conditions with non OIS camera is headache. Even watching video on 12" screen size looks disgusting. It is very shaky. Having watched many video samples from M8, I'm really disappointed, this feature being dismissed.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upL5hdGP2IQ
*grabs popcorn*

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upL5hdGP2IQ
*grabs popcorn*
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Not my Video, but if it performs like this...then I am gonna stick to it

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upL5hdGP2IQ
*grabs popcorn*
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You can clearly hear, S5 has distortion on low frequency. M8 is better, but worse than M7
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You can clearly hear, S5 has distortion on low frequency. M8 is better, but worse than M7, of course if you have M7 with hdr mics, like mine.
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alangrig said:
You can clearly hear, S5 has distortion on low frequency. M8 is better, but worse than M7
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Is there a comparison between the m7 and m8?
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Yes I made a short one today, same audio recording with the built in audio recorder and a video with the m7 and the m8 after each other....
I will try to upload them today somewhere
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