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Hi,
does anybody have information about availability of this wonderful querty device in europe?
Considering what Samsung did with the Galaxy in Europe (what a crap!), I would be very upset to not see a GSM version.
Anyway i haven't heard nothing about a GSM version.
What i know is that Samsung did several version of the Galaxy S with different name.
And if I'm not mistaken, in Europe, is suspect that we will only see the Galaxy S, wich i hate.
velenox said:
Considering what Samsung did with the Galaxy in Europe (what a crap!)
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Ummm, what exactly?
Not sure where I saw it but in one of the reviews of the Epic 4G the author pointed out an empty fully functional SIM card slot next to the memory slot and pondered why it had the SIM slot.
Is it true that the shipping model will actually have that sim slot?
Knowing Sprint, it'll be the same situation we had with the PPC-6700... our phones will have a plastic sticker over an empty cavity where the CSIM slot is supposed to be, then after we've moved on someone will buy up Sprint's remaining stock for a pittance, pay workers to hand-solder CSIM sockets into them, and sell them in some other country for 10x as much money.
If my Epic4G arrives with a real CSIM card in it, I'll be celebrating for a year ;-)
For anyone who doesn't know, CSIM is the latest revision of R-UIM, which is itself a superset of GSM SIM. CSIM is also (an optional?) part of the USIM standard.
Um? Maybe? Its called a Galaxy S Pro. But no, you won't get the Epic 4G in Europe... Europe doesn't use Wimax... or CDMA... so this will be as useful as a phone as an ipod touch. You may get a varient which will look different (probably more like the original Galaxy S as I've seen mockups of that with a keyboard).
Umm if the Epic 4G doesn't get a variant (plz plz same specs) with a GSM module instead of CDMA it would be very stupid of Samsung.
It would make sense to do so since there are several variants and international versions of the Galaxy S, and this is like the head of the Galaxy S family.
But something tells me Samsung will not outs the Epic 4G with a GSM, and I wish to god that I'm wrong OR that Samsung will release it with the exact specs but without the 4G antennae .... which will also be very aweful considering that 4G will be available in the near-future in Australia (and there is proof for it like 3G prices are crashing).
I want my GSM Samsung Epic 4G here in Aust!!!!!
Yea I'm not really sure why people ask if they will get certain phones in Europe. Not that it doesn't happen but certain phones are made exclusive. That's why it's called the epic 4G!
That's why it's different from all the other galaxy s phones. if europe did get this it would be 4gless and just a galaxy s with a keyboard. but i highly doubt because they would of announced this already. would it be cool? sure but i highly doubt. not every phone can be duplicated. it's a reason for every device.
I'd say just give it some time. It should be out.
The Samsung Wave (Bada phone) had a slide out qwerty keyboard about 4-5 months after the candy bar style phone came out.
So I see that it is possible to unlock cdma Android phone for other carriers but I am wondering you can do it with the WP7 devices, I don't want the Arrive because of the keyboard. I am just curious so any help would be appreciated. Sorry if i posted this in the wrong forum but I thought this would be a development question.
63 views and no replies, I guess I will write this off and wait until Sprint releases new WM7 phones, they are supposedly looking at the fall.
There are some listings on eBay purporting to sell unlock codes for the HTC Trophy. Some have already sold and the buyers have left positive feedback for the seller indicating success. Here (link) is the one I found, and I have no affiliation with the seller, eBay, etc. and cannot speak if this is legitimate or not. But apparently, it is possible.
Sprint as of current, will not allow any non Sprint branded phones on to their network. Even if you unlock the device, if it is not Sprint branded, and the ESN is not in their database, they will not allow it on their network.
I just don't get why people would prefer to have the SparkW (VZW Trophy) on Sprint vs the GoldC (HTC Arrive). The Arrive is made out of a nice metal, feels just like a Touch Pro2 but nicer... and its screen is only ever so slightly smaller then the Trophy. The Trophy, I got that thing in a tank of a case just so I know its in my pocket (I HATE small phones).
If anything I can't understand why Verizon didn't get GoldC or ask for a "GoldW" variant with World phone...
@MyNamesTheDoctor's You can't swap Sim cards to Sprint, Sprint is CDMA and doesn't use SIM cards. Due to Sprint's policies.... well.. only an illegal option is available to put the phone on Sprint.
Putting GoldC onto Verizon could probably be done legally, with a custom rom with Sprint software installed, and passing it threw Verizon's program to get the ESN/MIED added to their database... if they still do that. I can't wait for LTE to be the standard, then we won't have these issues with phones and everyone can have a SIM card.. and porting can be done with a simple unlock.
This really should be in Q&A though.
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inteller said:
thanks for reminding me why I stick to GSM carriers.
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If AT&T was worth a damn where I live, I would be back on them. They have poor coverage here though, so I am almost forced to use Verizon, which works wonderfully I have to say.
For me, Verizon has the best voice service in the area... while AT&T covers the area slightly better, Verizon has 3G data EVERYWHERE (they are 100% 3G), while AT&T has HSPA+ only closer to to Erie, and 1X in the rest of northwest PA.
It seems that the craze of Samsung Galaxy S II is not likely to get diminish in near future as yet another operator, U.S. Cellular is on the way to release its version of Galaxy S II in United States. This smartphone will be slightly different from other American variants in terms of its design and specs..........
http://mirolta.com/2012/02/22/u-s-c...sion-of-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-united-states/
A bigger battery is always good, but a 4.5" screen is probably a bit too big for wvga resolution.
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Belongs in the Epic 4G Touch forums - US Cellular is a CDMA provider, and that combined with identical specs to the E4GT says this is just a rebadged E4GT.
This phone's model is SCH-R760 and it isn't 4G, just 3G so I don't think it can be thrown in with the Epic 4G Touch. Where should we be posting about this one?
sophistical said:
This phone's model is SCH-R760 and it isn't 4G, just 3G so I don't think it can be thrown in with the Epic 4G Touch. Where should we be posting about this one?
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Interesting. Probably it's an E4GT with the WiMax radio removed.
Well, it isn't out yet or Samsung is violating the GPL with it (no source code for the kernel posted), so it's hard to tell.
Thanks. It came out today and I have one so they are indeed violating the GPL. You are probably right though, it likely is the same phone minus that radio. I'm looking to root so I'm hoping I can use E4GT methods.
any luck??
Just wondering if you had any luck. bought mine yesterday and its rooted. im itching to try some custom roms, wondering.....
Still nothing for this phone? Are the R760 folks just SOL?
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Still nothing for this phone? Are the R760 folks just SOL?
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No. There just isn't an SCH-R760 forum on THIS site. Closest information you'll find is in the Epic 4G Touch (SPH-D710) forums, but they are still different phones, so don't flash any actual E4GT ROMs, unless they explicitly state they will work on the SCH-R760.
Google is, and always will be, your friend.
http://www.google.com/search?&q=US+Cellular+sch-r760+custom+roms
A quick perusal of the results I got seem to indicate that the results on the teamuscellular.com website are likely to be your best resource for this variant.
Why was it decided that AT&T SG3 needs a new forum? Since models of all US carriers are the same variant, wouldn't it make sense to have a "US GS3" and a "Intl. GS3" forum instead of one for each carrier?
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Why was it decided that AT&T SG3 needs a new forum? Since models of all US carriers are the same variant, wouldn't it make sense to have a "US GS3" and a "Intl. GS3" forum instead of one for each carrier?
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The phones look the same but they have different hardware so, just like the HTC one x and the at&t one x
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kparaju said:
Why was it decided that AT&T SG3 needs a new forum? Since models of all US carriers are the same variant, wouldn't it make sense to have a "US GS3" and a "Intl. GS3" forum instead of one for each carrier?
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It's true that U.S. variants are mostly the same, but the sub-forums that'll be created later (Q&A, Development, General, etc...) will sometimes be carrier specific. Such as people asking about availability, AT&T bloatware VS Sprint bloatware, or about AT&T 3G/LTE VS Verizon's CDMA/LTE, etc.
EDIT: Hah... and the subforums were created JUST as I posted my reply.
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It's true that U.S. variants are mostly the same, but the sub-forums that'll be created later (Q&A, Development, General, etc...) will sometimes be carrier specific. Such as people asking about availability, AT&T bloatware VS Sprint bloatware, or about AT&T 3G/LTE VS Verizon's CDMA/LTE, etc.
EDIT: Hah... and the subforums were created JUST as I posted my reply.
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They all are mostly different phones, just look similar!
joedoe said:
They all are mostly different phones, just look similar!
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No, they're the same.. just different radios
Why create this thread? I really enjoy having our own forum. No need to weed through crap that doesn't pertain to my device.
Lol every Galaxy get his own Forum why no Sub Forum?
For the Galaxy S2 there is also a 9100G Sub Forum.
But for the HTC One S C2 there is no Sub Forum or all Xperia U/P/Sola Threads
are in the Xperia S Forum. No Sub Forums
Who gives a rats ass its here
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We needed it, will significantly reduce device brickage due to flashing international roms on domestic devices.
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We needed it, will significantly reduce device brickage due to flashing international roms on domestic devices.
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ya i think its a good idea for that reason...enough people have each galaxy to fill their own forum, and since the radios are different and will need a diff rom for each it will help un**** the development forums a ton
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No, they're the same.. just different radios
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and different kernels
Bottom line us each variant will have very different roms and kernels....so easier not to confuse people and cause a bricking outbreak by grouping them together.
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and different kernels
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Kernels aren't different
The AT&T SGS III has a SIM card slot, but some of the other US variants do not have it.
EDIT: The Sprint variant does not have a SIM slot... At least as shown in the video linked below.... FF video to 2:25
AT&T SGSII vs Sprint SGSII
Forum should be renamed to the Galaxy S III SGH-i747 forum, as Telus/Bell/Rogers in Canada are using the exact same model
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The AT&T SGS III has a SIM card slot, but some of the other US variants do not have it.
EDIT: The Sprint variant does not have a SIM slot... At least as shown in the video linked below.... FF video to 2:25
AT&T SGSII vs Sprint SGSII
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Correction the sprint version does have a SIM slot with built in microsim, its just not accessible its built in underneath the phone's back housing. The reason for the SIM is because Sprint's version support their coming LTE network.
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Correction the sprint version does have a SIM slot with built in microsim, its just not accessible its built in underneath the phone's back housing. The reason for the SIM is because Sprint's version support their coming LTE network.
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What I meant is that the SIM slot is not "user" accessible. If you travel and want to use a different SIM what do you do?
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What I meant is that the SIM slot is not "user" accessible. If you travel and want to use a different SIM what do you do?
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You can't go anywhere different unless someone comes up with a mod but that won't happen it's on a different radio spectrum
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FrameCityJackal said:
You can't go anywhere different unless someone comes up with a mod but that won't happen it's on a different radio spectrum
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Are you being "specific" to the Sprint SGS III?... If not, elaborate... I own a network unlocked AT&T Captivate and when I travel I'm able to insert a pre-paid SIM from other GSM providers and make phone calls. You're saying that this can't not be done with the AT&T SGS III once it is network unlocked? No other network SIM will work?
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Why was it decided that AT&T SG3 needs a new forum? Since models of all US carriers are the same variant, wouldn't it make sense to have a "US GS3" and a "Intl. GS3" forum instead of one for each carrier?
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Lots of reasons why we need them... Its called being "organized"
Im sure the root method is also different
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I'm looking to buy a new phone but don't want/need the latest and greatest. I'm happy with the performance of my HTC One Mini, my work HTC One X/XL and my wife's S4 Active, all AT&T phones used in the U.S. My One Mini just suffered a horrible mountain bike crash which busted the screen up pretty bad, then too, my old eyes are tired of that tiny screen. I've also had bad luck with the built in battery and lack of SD card slot. So I was thinking S4 would be ok by me. Asking on the device forum I've gotten 50-11 answers some of which are conflicting answers. I was thinking the i9505 would be the right phone until someone piped up stating it wouldn't work on LTE here. From all I've seen it looks to me like that senior member don't know what they're talking about. Here's my criteria:
1. 4.5" to 5" screen
2. Unlocked/unlockable and can easily accept custom ROMs
3. Prefer to stick with a Kit Kat Rom as it gets along with my Do Not Disturb app better than Lollipop due to the built-in app on Lollipop
4. Removable battery
5. SD Slot
6. LTE service on AT&T/T-Mobile and Caribbean and South American Countries
7. Custom ROM must allow hotspot w/o AT&T controlling my use (I have unlimited internet on my plan and want to make use of it)
Background: I'm almost green having only installed a custom ROM on my work phone an HTC One X/XL from AT&T. Apparently it's one of the harder phones to unlock the bootloader and permanent Root is impossible I think. I 1st installed CM12.1 on the HTC ONE X and ran into conflicts and buggy operations. After a few weeks of testing I backed it up, wiped it and installed CM11 which I truly like. No experience or much understanding of KNOX, ODIN or ODEX. I only read bits and pieces on those while trying to figure out which S4 variant will fit my need. Lastly, were can I get a new phone off contract? Anybody purchased from www.Cell2Get.com? I was about to buy this phone prior to the member claiming it wouldn't work on AT&T.
http://www.cell2get.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-i9505-16gb-unlocked-gsm-android-cell-phone-p-5122.html
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I'm looking to buy a new phone but don't want/need the latest and greatest. I'm happy with the performance of my HTC One Mini, my work HTC One X/XL and my wife's S4 Active, all AT&T phones used in the U.S. My One Mini just suffered a horrible mountain bike crash which busted the screen up pretty bad, then too, my old eyes are tired of that tiny screen. I've also had bad luck with the built in battery and lack of SD card slot. So I was thinking S4 would be ok by me. Asking on the device forum I've gotten 50-11 answers some of which are conflicting answers. I was thinking the i9505 would be the right phone until someone piped up stating it wouldn't work on LTE here. From all I've seen it looks to me like that senior member don't know what they're talking about. Here's my criteria:
1. 4.5" to 5" screen
2. Unlocked/unlockable and can easily accept custom ROMs
3. Prefer to stick with a Kit Kat Rom as it gets along with my Do Not Disturb app better than Lollipop due to the built-in app on Lollipop
4. Removable battery
5. SD Slot
6. LTE service on AT&T/T-Mobile and Caribbean and South American Countries
7. Custom ROM must allow hotspot w/o AT&T controlling my use (I have unlimited internet on my plan and want to make use of it)
Background: I'm almost green having only installed a custom ROM on my work phone an HTC One X/XL from AT&T. Apparently it's one of the harder phones to unlock the bootloader and permanent Root is impossible I think. I 1st installed CM12.1 on the HTC ONE X and ran into conflicts and buggy operations. After a few weeks of testing I backed it up, wiped it and installed CM11 which I truly like. No experience or much understanding of KNOX, ODIN or ODEX. I only read bits and pieces on those while trying to figure out which S4 variant will fit my need. Lastly, were can I get a new phone off contract? Anybody purchased from www.Cell2Get.com? I was about to buy this phone prior to the member claiming it wouldn't work on AT&T.
http://www.cell2get.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-i9505-16gb-unlocked-gsm-android-cell-phone-p-5122.html
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- AT&T has it's own variant of the S4. It's called the "SGH-I337".
- The I9505 will not work with LTE on the AT&T network. It support different bands. So the member was correct. You can see it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4#Model_variants
- The "SGH-I337" has a locked bootloader and cannot be unlocked. Only some old devices will have an unlocked bootloader because they never upgraded their software. Thus you cannot use custom roms like CM.
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- AT&T has it's own variant of the S4. It's called the "SGH-I337".
- The I9505 will not work with LTE on the AT&T network. It support different bands. So the member was correct. You can see it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4#Model_variants
- The "SGH-I337" has a locked bootloader and cannot be unlocked. Only some old devices will have an unlocked bootloader because they never upgraded their software. Thus you cannot use custom roms like CM.
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So is the GT-I9505G the preferred phone to have and to mod and if so, can I buy new one without getting a fake?
"Google Play Edition
At the Google I/O 2013 keynote, Samsung and Google revealed that an edition of the U.S. S4 would be released on June 26, 2013 through Google Play, initially featuring stock Android 4.2.2, later updated to 4.4.4, with Samsung provided updates; it has an unlockable bootloader (similar to Nexus devices) and supports LTE on AT&T and T-Mobile's networks. The model number is GT-I9505G."
I'm likely "that member", because I have an I9505 (not I9505G) running on Straight Talk, which is a US MVNO that rents bandwidth from all the major US carriers. The I9505 will not work on LTE here in the US because the LTE frequencies used worldwide (1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20) are not the frequencies used by the carriers here in the US. The I9505G is a different story. It has the LTE frequencies needed to work here in the US, and does not have Touchwiz as it uses stock Android.
You can't purchase one new because they've been discontinued for some time now. You may want to check out Swappa (link at the top of the page) and see if they have a used one you can purchase.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I'm likely "that member", because I have an I9505 (not I9505G) running on Straight Talk, which is a US MVNO that rents bandwidth from all the major US carriers. The I9505 will not work on LTE here in the US because the LTE frequencies used worldwide (1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20) are not the frequencies used by the carriers here in the US. The I9505G is a different story. It has the LTE frequencies needed to work here in the US, and does not have Touchwiz as it uses stock Android.
You can't purchase one new because they've been discontinued for some time now. You may want to check out Swappa (link at the top of the page) and see if they have a used one you can purchase.
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Really good and interesting reply. Being new to this stuff and having not kept up with cellphone technology, some of the things you guys just know, I'm having to try to understand. At first I assumed all 9505's were the same, but apparently I was wrong there. Then I also thought that since most cellphone review sites showed a plethora of Freq. and bands, with at least on or two being those that AT&T and most other North American GSM carriers use, I assume that meant I could get that model of phone. little did I know that those two lines of freqs and bands were for different versions of that same model, one for here and being a carrier locked phone and the other line being and international phone without the proper band for use here. So now after learning that difference it appears to me that there may be now way possible to purchase a new S4 and turn it into a custom ROM phone. So if I understand you and the carrier stuff correctly, you're using a plain 9505 and piggybacking off AT&T by way of StraightTalk like so many of us do. However since your phone is an international version you don't have LTE, is that right? One last thing I've yet to read or learn about but saw when I was putting CM11 and 12.1 on my HTC One X/XL (AT&T), I kept seeing stuff about "the radio". The way it read made me think they were NOT talking about an FM radio for music, but the freqs the phone itself uses. I think I recall them flashing "radios" which I assume they meant they were able to change the original freqs/bands that the model came with to one more useful here. Is that something that truly exists and can be done even on an S4 variant? My assumption is that it CANNOT be done or else you'd have done so already on your i9505.
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So if I understand you and the carrier stuff correctly, you're using a plain 9505 and piggybacking off AT&T by way of StraightTalk like so many of us do. However since your phone is an international version you don't have LTE, is that right?
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Correct.
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My assumption is that it CANNOT be done or else you'd have done so already on your i9505.
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Again correct. With Samsung, their firmware loading software, Odin, actually checks and makes sure the parts of the firmware match the model of the S4 connected to the PC. If they don't match, Odin will instantly fail. The only way to try and enable LTE on the I9505 is to delve into the low-level firmware for the LTE chip and attempt to rewrite it so it can see the added frequencies. However, I don't recommend it. Not only is it a very intricate process compared to something like rooting, it's also quite possible that you could render the LTE chip non-functional. I tried it, and nearly lost the ability to use my phone at all due to having my phone's SIM lock restored.
If you do decide to get an S4, an I9505G is likely your best bet. Not only does it have the AT&T frequencies, it's also got an unlocked bootloader (unlike the AT&T model) and is also carrier unlocked right out of the box. That last means you can use it on T-Mobile and carriers which use GSM SIM cards. Other choices would be the T-Mobile S4 (SGH-M919) or the North American S4 (SGH-I337M). All these phones include the AT&T frequencies and also have an unlocked bootloader so customization is easier.
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If you do decide to get an S4, an I9505G is likely your best bet. Not only does it have the AT&T frequencies, it's also got an unlocked bootloader (unlike the AT&T model) and is also carrier unlocked right out of the box. That last means you can use it on T-Mobile and carriers which use GSM SIM cards. Other choices would be the T-Mobile S4 (SGH-M919) or the North American S4 (SGH-I337M). All these phones include the AT&T frequencies and also have an unlocked bootloader so customization is easier.
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I thank you so much sir. This answer is direct and explains exactly what I wanted to know. I only wish it were possible to purchase one of those models new so I could ensure years of use void of glitches due to possible abuse by the previous owner. If I can't find one of the above models I will probably be looking for some other make/model, preferably a new phone not used. Do you know if it's possible to get a new phone that meets the criteria below?
1. Unlocked bootloader or one that can be unlocked
2. Removable battery
3. 4.7" - 5" screen
4. SD card
5. Capable of being used as a hotspot ( I have unlimited internet but need to thwart AT&T from controlling my use)
6. Rootable and custom ROM capable
7. Can be used in U.S, South America and Caribbean (I think most of those places all use the same freqs/bands as U.S.)
That is why on Swappa you search for the ones labeled Mint or New. My device was Mint off Swappa, and the main reasons were that it was always in a case, and had a tempered glass screen protector installed.
For a current flagship-level device, looking at your laundry list, I believe you need to adjust your expectations. Not because of the software, but because of the hardware. LG is perhaps the only manufacturer still offering both removable batteries and MicroSD card slots, but their flagship device has a larger screen than you want. Motorola doesn't have removable batteries. Google provides neither, just like Samsung. Sony is an unknown, but their devices are not common here in the US.
Your best option is to go with a larger screen size and get an LG G4. If you absolutely MUST have the smaller screen, then you want a used Galaxy S4 or S5, so long as they aren't AT&T devices.
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For a current flagship-level device, looking at your laundry list, I believe you need to adjust your expectations. Not because of the software, but because of the hardware. LG is perhaps the only manufacturer still offering both removable batteries and MicroSD card slots, but their flagship device has a larger screen than you want. Motorola doesn't have removable batteries. Google provides neither, just like Samsung. Sony is an unknown, but their devices are not common here in the US.
Your best option is to go with a larger screen size and get an LG G4. If you absolutely MUST have the smaller screen, then you want a used Galaxy S4 or S5, so long as they aren't AT&T devices.
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I guess I should have made it clear too that flagships, latest and greatest wasn't necessary. I'm happy with the speeds my older HTC ONE X and HTC ONE Mini supply. But closing in on 50 years old, my eyes and the Mini's screen don't get along so well anymore.
If you have bad eyesight, a bigger screen can be a godsend.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If you have bad eyesight, a bigger screen can be a godsend.
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Exactly. I need a bigger screen but a smaller phone because my hands can't reach around my HTC ONE Mini. Sometimes it sucks being 5'4". LOL
IRBent said:
Exactly. I need a bigger screen but a smaller phone because my hands can't reach around my HTC ONE Mini. Sometimes it sucks being 5'4". LOL
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I would not recommend someone buying the S4 anymore. It was and still is a great phone, but newer models are just way better. The battery life is to short with the standard battery.
Based on your preferences I would recommend one of the following:
- LG Nexus 5
- Oneplus one
- Motorola X Play
But then again, maybe they are to big for you. The LG is the smallest but doesn't have a sd slot.
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Based on your preferences I would recommend one of the following:
- LG Nexus 5
- Oneplus one
- Motorola X Play
But then again, maybe they are to big for you. The LG is the smallest but doesn't have a sd slot.
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Amazing discovery by me just now. Yes, I've seen folks here talk about the brand OnePlus but I didn't know who or what OnePlus was until just now. I used to keep up with all things electronics related, reading review sites and forums like this. 10 years ago or so a DVD manufacturer named OPPO was the talk. Excellent brand but unheard of. I just learned that OnePlus is a company started by an OPPO founder. I'm so out of the loop.