Why was it decided that AT&T SG3 needs a new forum? Since models of all US carriers are the same variant, wouldn't it make sense to have a "US GS3" and a "Intl. GS3" forum instead of one for each carrier?
kparaju said:
Why was it decided that AT&T SG3 needs a new forum? Since models of all US carriers are the same variant, wouldn't it make sense to have a "US GS3" and a "Intl. GS3" forum instead of one for each carrier?
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The phones look the same but they have different hardware so, just like the HTC one x and the at&t one x
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kparaju said:
Why was it decided that AT&T SG3 needs a new forum? Since models of all US carriers are the same variant, wouldn't it make sense to have a "US GS3" and a "Intl. GS3" forum instead of one for each carrier?
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It's true that U.S. variants are mostly the same, but the sub-forums that'll be created later (Q&A, Development, General, etc...) will sometimes be carrier specific. Such as people asking about availability, AT&T bloatware VS Sprint bloatware, or about AT&T 3G/LTE VS Verizon's CDMA/LTE, etc.
EDIT: Hah... and the subforums were created JUST as I posted my reply.
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It's true that U.S. variants are mostly the same, but the sub-forums that'll be created later (Q&A, Development, General, etc...) will sometimes be carrier specific. Such as people asking about availability, AT&T bloatware VS Sprint bloatware, or about AT&T 3G/LTE VS Verizon's CDMA/LTE, etc.
EDIT: Hah... and the subforums were created JUST as I posted my reply.
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They all are mostly different phones, just look similar!
joedoe said:
They all are mostly different phones, just look similar!
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No, they're the same.. just different radios
Why create this thread? I really enjoy having our own forum. No need to weed through crap that doesn't pertain to my device.
Lol every Galaxy get his own Forum why no Sub Forum?
For the Galaxy S2 there is also a 9100G Sub Forum.
But for the HTC One S C2 there is no Sub Forum or all Xperia U/P/Sola Threads
are in the Xperia S Forum. No Sub Forums
Who gives a rats ass its here
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We needed it, will significantly reduce device brickage due to flashing international roms on domestic devices.
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We needed it, will significantly reduce device brickage due to flashing international roms on domestic devices.
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ya i think its a good idea for that reason...enough people have each galaxy to fill their own forum, and since the radios are different and will need a diff rom for each it will help un**** the development forums a ton
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No, they're the same.. just different radios
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and different kernels
Bottom line us each variant will have very different roms and kernels....so easier not to confuse people and cause a bricking outbreak by grouping them together.
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and different kernels
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Kernels aren't different
The AT&T SGS III has a SIM card slot, but some of the other US variants do not have it.
EDIT: The Sprint variant does not have a SIM slot... At least as shown in the video linked below.... FF video to 2:25
AT&T SGSII vs Sprint SGSII
Forum should be renamed to the Galaxy S III SGH-i747 forum, as Telus/Bell/Rogers in Canada are using the exact same model
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The AT&T SGS III has a SIM card slot, but some of the other US variants do not have it.
EDIT: The Sprint variant does not have a SIM slot... At least as shown in the video linked below.... FF video to 2:25
AT&T SGSII vs Sprint SGSII
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Correction the sprint version does have a SIM slot with built in microsim, its just not accessible its built in underneath the phone's back housing. The reason for the SIM is because Sprint's version support their coming LTE network.
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Correction the sprint version does have a SIM slot with built in microsim, its just not accessible its built in underneath the phone's back housing. The reason for the SIM is because Sprint's version support their coming LTE network.
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What I meant is that the SIM slot is not "user" accessible. If you travel and want to use a different SIM what do you do?
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What I meant is that the SIM slot is not "user" accessible. If you travel and want to use a different SIM what do you do?
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You can't go anywhere different unless someone comes up with a mod but that won't happen it's on a different radio spectrum
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You can't go anywhere different unless someone comes up with a mod but that won't happen it's on a different radio spectrum
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Are you being "specific" to the Sprint SGS III?... If not, elaborate... I own a network unlocked AT&T Captivate and when I travel I'm able to insert a pre-paid SIM from other GSM providers and make phone calls. You're saying that this can't not be done with the AT&T SGS III once it is network unlocked? No other network SIM will work?
kparaju said:
Why was it decided that AT&T SG3 needs a new forum? Since models of all US carriers are the same variant, wouldn't it make sense to have a "US GS3" and a "Intl. GS3" forum instead of one for each carrier?
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Lots of reasons why we need them... Its called being "organized"
Im sure the root method is also different
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Sorry if this has been answered but I'm on the xda app and can't search. I'm thinking about getting this phone and unlocking it to work on T-Mobiles network. How cross compatible is it? Will it work with the T-Mobile "4G"?
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Lint6 said:
Sorry if this has been answered but I'm on the xda app and can't search. I'm thinking about getting this phone and unlocking it to work on T-Mobiles network. How cross compatible is it? Will it work with the T-Mobile "4G"?
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Nope, you will only get 2G (EDGE).
t-mobile and at&t use different 3G frequencies, so if you unlock it you will only get EDGE speeds. Not worthy IMO, you have lots of options in your country, i would recommend to wait for the samsung galaxy s II phone.
Will work on the network but data will be at Edge speeds, not 4G.
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Just get the new nexus s and enjoy 2.3.3 and new nfc features and 3 axis gyroscope for wii like control over games and updates first and super Smiled screen lol
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nucentury08 said:
Just get the new nexus s and enjoy 2.3.3 and new nfc features and 3 axis gyroscope for wii like control over games and updates first and super Smiled screen lol
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On the new Nexus S - if you run out of internal storage - what size memory card can you add? Oh, wait they left off the SD card slot on that model. But those super AMOLED screens are really easy on the battery right? Oh wait, if the screen is black they use less juice but not otherwise.
Sorry, had to pick on you. Suffered with the captivate for 8 months..... yeah i drank the Koolaid - now i know better - but samsung sure can spin it.
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On the new Nexus S - if you run out of internal storage - what size memory card can you add? Oh, wait they left off the SD card slot on that model. But those super AMOLED screens are really easy on the battery right? Oh wait, if the screen is black they use less juice but not otherwise.
Sorry, had to pick on you. Suffered with the captivate for 8 months..... yeah i drank the Koolaid - now i know better - but samsung sure can spin it.
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Just ignore him, hes been trolling all over the Atrix forums. The gyroscope in his phone apparently makes his keyboard so fast that he cant use punctuation.
Unfortunately NOT ...
Inspite every where they said you'll only get EDGE , I Saw one guy saying he got 4G on simple mobile which uses the TMO towers sometimes (both have same frequencies)!!!
I bought the ATRIX on TMO and for 2 days now only EDGE
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Unfortunately NOT ...
Inspite every where they said you'll only get EDGE , I Saw one guy saying he got 4G on simple mobile which uses the TMO towers sometimes (both have same frequencies)!!!
I bought the ATRIX on TMO and for 2 days now only EDGE
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nowhere do they say you can use an att phone on t mobile 3G. it's been known for years that their frequencies are different and incompatible. you just didn't do your homework before purchasing.
I knew 99% it won't work but i took the challenge anyway ..
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nowhere do they say you can use an att phone on t mobile 3G. it's been known for years that their frequencies are different and incompatible. you just didn't do your homework before purchasing.
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don't judge me ... I did my homework
... Just kinding
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
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Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
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That code process is to unlock the phone to enable it to be used with networks other than AT&T. But that doesn't get you data speed any faster than 2G/Edge using an Atrix on T-Mobile's network.
I'm a little confused here. You guys are saying that the Atrix will only get 2G/EDGE speeds on TMobile because the frequencies are different.
I am currently using the Nexus One.. how is it that I'm getting 3G speeds with a phone that is compatible with both AT&T and TMobile then??
Doesnt this mean that the Atrix should be able to get 3G speeds as long as it has the appropriate software? or am I not understanding something..
There are 2 kinds of nexus ones.. one with AWS bands (tmobile) and one with the regular 850/1900 (ATT). That's why you see them work on both tmobile and att. But a single device won't work on both bands.
It is a hardware issue. No software flashing will be able to fix it. If you bought the wrong one then you're stuck with it.
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don't judge me ... I did my homework
... Just kinding
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
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False. There's not a chance in the world that is true. T-Mo USA and AT&T use mutually exclusive bands. No carrier-branded phones carry both bands. The only modern phone that carries bands necessary for 3/4G on either network would be the upcoming, not-for-sale/developer-only Nokia N950.
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False. There's not a chance in the world that is true. T-Mo USA and AT&T use mutually exclusive bands. No carrier-branded phones carry both bands. The only modern phone that carries bands necessary for 3/4G on either network would be the upcoming, not-for-sale/developer-only Nokia N950.
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The Nokia N8 and E7 also have the 3G frequencies necessary for both At&t and T-mobile, as well as Europe/Asia (850/900/1700/1900/2100). However, I agree with you that no At&t/T-mobile branded device carries all the needed bands.
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Touchscreen-Featuring-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B003ZX7RL4
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B0046LTU9G
Vibrant can be used on T-Mo and AT&T as well
bimmerboii said:
There are 2 kinds of nexus ones.. one with AWS bands (tmobile) and one with the regular 850/1900 (ATT). That's why you see them work on both tmobile and att. But a single device won't work on both bands.
It is a hardware issue. No software flashing will be able to fix it. If you bought the wrong one then you're stuck with it.
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Ah, I see. I didnt realize that there are 2 types of the Nexus One.
I had assumed that since they are not branded by any carriers that they were all the same device.
Thanks
I was really hoping to have my TZones internet plan, which runs at 3G speeds on the Nexus, run on an unlocked Atrix but that doesn't look possible.
Are there any phones newer than the Nexus One that will work with Tmobile 3G and are unbranded by Tmobile?
The branded Tmo android phones lock out my Tzones.
Enforcerman said:
Ah, I see. I didnt realize that there are 2 types of the Nexus One.
I had assumed that since they are not branded by any carriers that they were all the same device.
Thanks
I was really hoping to have my TZones internet plan, which runs at 3G speeds on the Nexus, run on an unlocked Atrix but that doesn't look possible.
Are there any phones newer than the Nexus One that will work with Tmobile 3G and are unbranded by Tmobile?
The branded Tmo android phones lock out my Tzones.
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Here's a list of phones that will work with tmobile 3G. Take your pick. You may have to source it from somewhere else if you wish to buy it unlocked and unbranded.
The Nexus S is unlocked and unbranded even if you get it from tmobile. But since you are coming from the Nexus One, it is up to you if its worth the upgrade. Other than the Nexus S, have a look at dual core phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php...nes=0&sColor=&StandBy=0&TalkTime=0&sFreeText=
Atrix on t-mobile
i am currently running atrix 4g on system version 4.5.141 and android version 2.3.6.. I am rooted and have and unlocked boot loader. I also got the unlock code for my phone and it was successful and i am now running T-mobile sim chip i am only getting the Edge .. I have a thought as if you could change the phone frequency settings with sqlite editor i mean if you can disable the entitlement_check to enable theathering with AT&T's 2gb plan then we should be able to figure out how to change the frequency ratings of the phone to be able to run on t-mobiles 4g ... I wish that someone with a little more Knowledge could help out with this..
I was wondering if anyone knew if it would be possible to take the rooms and source from the UK version and use it on the att version? I know it will have different chips and chip sets. I'm just trying to get ideas to help me decide which one to get.
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I was wondering if anyone knew if it would be possible to take the rooms and source from the UK version and use it on the att version? I know it will have different chips and chip sets. I'm just trying to get ideas to help me decide which one to get.
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No you won't be able to put ROMs from int'l on att
So if you want the best possible dev community, go with int'l
pewpewbangbang said:
No you won't be able to put ROMs from int'l on att
So if you want the best possible dev community, go with int'l
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yea. im pretty dam sure pewpewbanbang is correct.
Just look at the SGS2 and it's US counter phones on T-Mo, AT&T, and Sprint.
Look at the Note and AT&T's Note.
This maybe early but I know it was done for AT&T Note 2, where the radio was enabled for use on T-mobile.
Does it seem likely for Samsung S4?
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joogle said:
This maybe early but I know it was done for AT&T Note 2, where the radio was enabled for use on T-mobile.
Does it seem likely for Samsung S4?
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Once the bootloader is unlocked...most likely. This has been the case for the T-mobile/AT&T variants that have had the same hardware (Note 2, Skyrocket, SGS3).
Depending on where you are you can catch 4g. In tampa florida I get 4g in some area with the tmobile/att shared band
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Once the bootloader is unlocked...most likely. This has been the case for the T-mobile/AT&T variants that have had the same hardware (Note 2, Skyrocket, SGS3).
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The Canadian Version SGH-i337m (similar to AT&T) is bootloader unlocked. Can you please suggest how can attempt to do this. I will be getting my phone in couple of days.
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The Canadian Version SGH-i337m (similar to AT&T) is bootloader unlocked. Can you please suggest how can attempt to do this. I will be getting my phone in couple of days.
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You will probably have to wait until a dev makes a zip. Here is a link to the thread on how to do it for the Note 2. THIS WILL NOT work for your S4, but I'm sure something similar will come along.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
Are T-Mobile bands supported at the hardware level on the AT&T model? I guess my question is, will flashing a T-Mobile radio on an AT&T GS4 allow it to use all of T-Mobile's LTE bands, or just the two bands that are shared between the two? If the two phones are really the same at the hardware level it would mean the same frequencies are supported and just that some are disabled in the modem firmware of the AT&T version.
Search is not working and I couldn't see any posts answering this question directly.
Not sure. I unlocked my phone early this morning to try it out and can't get more than EDGE with my T-Mobile sim
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For anyone who may be interested in this, it seems both the AT&T and the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 have in fact the exact same hardware board. This can be seen in minute 48:00 of the AT&T SGS4 teardown video by Adam Outler. More information on this on this thread.
It seems there is hope for enabling all the bands of the T-Mobile version on this device after all.
I know how everyone is quick to shoot down people for double posting, but I've tried to search and perhaps my keywords are off but my question is:
Can the Sprint version of the Samsung Galaxy S4 be used on GSM networks?
I'm pretty sure I remember that Note2 and SG3 had no sim slots...but this one does.
Please don't tell me that it's for the LTE data (like in the Metro PCS version of the SG3), it would be hard for me to swallow that because they barely even have 4g in metro areas as it is.
Not sure how you missed this topic, it's been discussed many times. Do a search for sim lock in this forum.
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I know how everyone is quick to shoot down people for double posting, but I've tried to search and perhaps my keywords are off but my question is:
Can the Sprint version of the Samsung Galaxy S4 be used on GSM networks?
I'm pretty sure I remember that Note2 and SG3 had no sim slots...but this one does.
Please don't tell me that it's for the LTE data (like in the Metro PCS version of the SG3), it would be hard for me to swallow that because they barely even have 4g in metro areas as it is.
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i dont know what 4g coverage you are talking about, my metro sgs3 gets great 4g coverage (just terrible metropcs speeds )
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I know how everyone is quick to shoot down people for double posting, but I've tried to search and perhaps my keywords are off but my question is:
Can the Sprint version of the Samsung Galaxy S4 be used on GSM networks?
I'm pretty sure I remember that Note2 and SG3 had no sim slots...but this one does.
Please don't tell me that it's for the LTE data (like in the Metro PCS version of the SG3), it would be hard for me to swallow that because they barely even have 4g in metro areas as it is.
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Don't quote me on this cause I may be absolutely wrong, I have read all the threads in my spare time but this topic doesn't apply to me so I may have misread.
From what I gather, the Sim is for LTE, but you can use it on international GSM networks outside of the USA.
But I read something about being able to get Sprint to unlock it for you after you've been a customer for a certain amount of time or something like that. I don't know if this is true or not tho.
From what I have read though the general consensus is that the first statement is true at least.
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i dont know what 4g coverage you are talking about, my metro sgs3 gets great 4g coverage (just terrible metropcs speeds )
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No no...MetroPCS phones are CDMA, but I heard the sim portion is for the 4g LTE Data...not a slot to allow for GSM usage, that is what I was referring to...sorry to confuse anyone.
It is a cat3 sim card there for LTE im sure it can be unlocked for international use only not on US GSM but again im sure it can be unlocked to use anywhere. There are some smart people on xda and will figure it out.
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Don't quote me on this cause I may be absolutely wrong, I have read all the threads in my spare time but this topic doesn't apply to me so I may have misread.
From what I gather, the Sim is for LTE, but you can use it on international GSM networks outside of the USA.
But I read something about being able to get Sprint to unlock it for you after you've been a customer for a certain amount of time or something like that. I don't know if this is true or not tho.
From what I have read though the general consensus is that the first statement is true at least.
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Is the Sprint LTE network even live? LOL...I swear I haven't seen it active anywhere near my area.
But, if indeed it is a Sim Slot for LTE AND International GSM, I can't see how it would just be for International.
From what I've heard, I could be wrong because of bad info, that all the S4s have cdma/gsm chips and is basically a world phone.
I still have a hard time swallowing the fact that MetroPCS SG3's sim slot is really only for LTE...so like, Samsung made that phone ESPECIALLY for the small carrier? Doesn't compute. Maybe on the software end.
So, that's why I'm believing that Sprint's S4 can be tapped for GSM usage, not just for International but for the US...I don't see how if it is unlocked, that it could differentiate between a U.S. sim chip and foreign one.
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No no...MetroPCS phones are CDMA, but I heard the sim portion is for the 4g LTE Data...not a slot to allow for GSM usage, that is what I was referring to...sorry to confuse anyone.
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im well aware of teh metropcs sgs3 . i was replying with regards to metro's 4g network
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Is the Sprint LTE network even live? LOL...I swear I haven't seen it active anywhere near my area.
But, if indeed it is a Sim Slot for LTE AND International GSM, I can't see how it would just be for International.
From what I've heard, I could be wrong because of bad info, that all the S4s have cdma/gsm chips and is basically a world phone.
I still have a hard time swallowing the fact that MetroPCS SG3's sim slot is really only for LTE...so like, Samsung made that phone ESPECIALLY for the small carrier? Doesn't compute. Maybe on the software end.
So, that's why I'm believing that Sprint's S4 can be tapped for GSM usage, not just for International but for the US...I don't see how if it is unlocked, that it could differentiate between a U.S. sim chip and foreign one.
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they made the SCH-R530, it was used on 3 carriers. we tried everything under the sun and it would not work with any form of sim. and i dont see why the continued attack on metropcs? they are doing a reverse merger with tmobile, as in metropcs is shouldering tmobile (you know the 4th largest carrier?)
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But, if indeed it is a Sim Slot for LTE AND International GSM, I can't see how it would just be for International.
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Very simple, Sprint has the OEM disable the device such that it won't accept any SIMs from any other US carriers and/or program the radio such that it ignores any GSM signal tied to American carriers. This is absolutely nothing new though... Sprint has done this on every Adroid or iOS GSM-capable device they've sold in the past three or four years (HTC TP2, Moto Photon 4G, iPhone...).
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Is the Sprint LTE network even live? LOL...I swear I haven't seen it active anywhere near my area.
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Yes, it's been rolling out slowly for a long time. I live in San Francisco and it's incredibly fast. I'm one of the lucky ones that lives in a major city though.
And for the answer to the rest of your post, read above. ^^
Like I said that was the general consensus of every post I have read here. Hopefully someone can explain it to you more technically if that's what your looking for.
Good luck!
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Thanks...
Thanks for the info guys...I appreciate the comments and feedback on this subject.
Just a little curious, since I've never done much carrier hopping.
Say I buy this phone from T-mobile, would it work on Verizon? My vz phone uses a micro sim as well, but I know there are different bands the carriers run off, and gsm vs cdma and such. But some phones work on both types, correct? Is this one of them? I really don't like the look of the verizon version...
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Just a little curious, since I've never done much carrier hopping.
Say I buy this phone from T-mobile, would it work on Verizon? My vz phone uses a micro sim as well, but I know there are different bands the carriers run off, and gsm vs cdma and such. But some phones work on both types, correct? Is this one of them? I really don't like the look of the verizon version...
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It wont.
Ahh, that's what I thought, thanks for the verifcation, appreciate it.
No but if you buy it from verizon it will work on T-Mobile.
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