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Is this Vibrant the same as Bell's?

Just wondering if this T Mobile Vibrant is the same as far as rooting and flashing goes as the version Bell will be launching soon in Canada?
Thanks

Bump, anyone know?

To my knowledge, no it isn't. It seems like it will be the same (or atleast look the same) as the euro galaxy S

biggest consideration is to check what frequencies your carrier uses ie is it GSM or CDMA, and for 3g Data what freqs
the tmobile is GSM and for 3G Tmo uses the AWS IV band, ie 1700/2100, and it has to be both of those if you were bringing a european phone here to the USA to use on tmobile - tmobile europe only uses 2100 for 3G, no 1700
as the 2100 is the download side i figured i could live without 3g upload speed but just before pulling the trigger on a european tmobile HTC Desire i found out that if the phone didn't have both sides, ie both 1700 for upload and 2100 for download, tmo's network would hold the phone to 2G or EDGE data speeds
so best bet is to first identify Bell's freqs - and you can do that on the web -
hope that helps some

Thanks, Bell's network is 850/1900. Same as AT&T but it doesn't look anything like the Captivate. Too many models of the same phone... too confusing...

I wouldn't be concerned with looks, in fact to me (i own a vibrant) i like the captivate case better - that report endgadget.com had on the two (vibrant/captivate) liked the way the captivate's case released in the back
the vibrant you have to pop the caseback with your fingernail - its secure but kind of a chintzy way to do it, especially when the capitvate has a nice pull and release mechanism
and the rear surface has some texture for a little better grip

A Dustman said:
Thanks, Bell's network is 850/1900. Same as AT&T but it doesn't look anything like the Captivate. Too many models of the same phone... too confusing...
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My guess is the standard Galaxy S form factor is a little too much like the iPhone for AT&T's taste, so they wanted one that looks different. They don't want to piss off Apple, their goose that lays the golden eggs.
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I've got my crystal ball tuned up...
Bell gets a unit that looks exactly like the US T-Mobile Vibrant, otherwise they wouldn't have called it that. With the AWS/2100 replaced with 850/1900, and same as the T-Mo, no FFC. Bell gets the first Canadian unit, so they got that going on for "cool factor". I'm like 95.9% sure of this.
Based on the posters for the launch party, Telus gets an GSM Epic. That makes a lot of sense, especially since they're releasing the LCD Desire very shortly...the thicker, less sleek Epic would not be in the same category, and they wouldn't have went to the expense of getting the Desire if they were getting regular non-keyboard Galaxy S variant, and vice versa. I'm about 75% sure of this.
A Telus Epic would also make a great replacement for the aging Milestone, which is now out of production, with the GSM Milestone 2 probably still months off.
Rogers gets an unknown unit. I'd lean towards them getting the Captivate style, except for the whole AT&T exclusive lock on the unit, September release of the same unit that works on the same bands seems a little soon for AT&T to give up on the exclusivity costs.
But Rogers needs something to bring to the table that's different than Bell or Telus, so they may get a GSM Fascinate (complete with camera flash). The timing matches the Verizon release window as well, and both may be waiting on Samsung to get these into full production. They may also get the Euro model complete with FFC and big home button, Rogers has a history of supporting video calling. Whatever version they release, it will most likely ship with Froyo in the box.
To confuse the Rogers matter more, the rumor in the SIM unlocking circles is that the AT&T Captivate codes won't be available until October. If Rogers ships a Captivate version of it in September, with the same name, then AT&T will start releasing SIM codes to those that ask, because it's no longer exclusivity-locked.
I'm 33% on each of the Rogers options (Captivate, Fascinate, "pure" Galaxy S)
But it's all guesswork.

That's a pretty interesting theory you have there, and it makes sense too.
Has anyone gotten any of these Galaxy S models sim unlocked yet?

Croak said:
I've got my crystal ball tuned up...
Bell gets a unit that looks exactly like the US T-Mobile Vibrant, otherwise they wouldn't have called it that. With the AWS/2100 replaced with 850/1900, and same as the T-Mo, no FFC. Bell gets the first Canadian unit, so they got that going on for "cool factor". I'm like 95.9% sure of this.
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This is the only part of your comment that I think I will argue with. I think the bell version will look identical to the european one. Why do I think so? Two reasons my dear watson,
A.) www . youtube.com/watch?=8QSl8FyhjJE&feature=player_embedded
This video which I believe is correct. (and I think I saw another video that was just a hands on in a small room filled with guys in suits and the one reviewer.
B.) The Samsung Canada page for this device: www . samsung.com/ca/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/all-phones/GT-I9000HKABMC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&returnurl=
P.S. I've also heard of rumours of Rogers coming out with a galaxy S device, and Furthermore, supposedly the release date for the Bell Galaxy S will be August 6th

Make up your mind samsung! Tmobile

OK, there's always an international galaxy s (I,II) and variants both regional, and united-states.
There's gonna be 3 variants AT&T Attain, Verizon Function and Sprint Within that seem to share the same form-factor.. though both Verizon and Sprint are cdma... whilst AT&T is gsm.. then there's no mobile announced for T-mobile..
http://androidcommunity.com/us-gala...-verizon-function-and-sprint-within-20110516/
Now we have this super-mega-variant for T-mobile.
"Samsung Hercules"
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/unannounced-samsung-hercules-headed-to-t-mobile-bearing-godli/
4.5-inch 480 x 800 Super AMOLED Plus display
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
NFC support, though compatibility with the forthcoming ISIS mobile payment standard is “to be determined”
Category 24 HSDPA (42Mbps) and Category 6 HSUPA (5.76Mbps) for extremely fast HSPA+ support — faster than any HSPA+ phone currently sold in the US
AWS plus 850 / 1900MHz compatibility for support on AT&T’s “4G” network if the merger succeeds
Preliminary measurements place it at 5.16 x 2.76 x 0.37 inches — within a few hundredths of an inch of the Infuse
16GB internal ROM, 1GB internal RAM, external microSD up to 32GB
Here’s where it outdoes the Infuse: it’s quoted with a Qualcomm 1.2GHz dual-core APQ8060 application processor, which is extraordinarily unusual for a Samsung — particularly considering the availability of Samsung’s own multi-core Exynos line; it’s paired with an MDM8220 modem processor
8 megapixel primary camera with flash and 1080p video capture, secondary front-facing camera
Like the Galaxy S II, the Hercules won’t have a dedicated HDMI port — it’ll move high-def video over Micro USB using MHL
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Total outcome? International nfc-less model, 3 variants with possibly different software due to radio cdma/gsm, and one super-variant for t-mobile compatible with AT&T but with a different chipset, and a bigger screen!
This is such a headache!
Why can't samsung keep it simple, and have a mix cdma/gsm/lte chip with different design. Not different chipsets, software, and what not.. this is starting to look like a nightmare in terms of porting roms.

I know the answer. Carriers want their own exclusive phone.
Samsung should just say "nah". There's only a need for ONE phone, the SGS2. None of this Captivate/vibrant/Fascinate/blah naming. An SGS2. That is all.
Unfortunately, money tends to speak for these sorts of things, so I doubt this will change. Networks enjoy crippling capable handsets, taking 16GB internal storage, and making it 2GB, so they can sell more SD cards to clients who don't know about shopping around and Amazon...
Words fail me sometimes with Samsung...

WFT!!
I can't understand why Samsung does not say "take it or leave it". It's not a small company and I am pretty sure none of the US carriers could even dream of matching the financial muscle of Sammy (you can forget about the Samsung conglumerate, just talking about Samsung electronics). It's time for Sammy to flex it's muscle.

The problem is US networks are retarded and built not to work like the rest of the world. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA, so the Int'l. SGS2 won't work on them, hence the Function and Within. The other 2 GSM networks have different frequencies, so Sammy has 2 make 2 different phones for those 2 too. It's not a "take it or leave it" issue because even if they "took it" the phone wouldn't work properly anyway

Actually the Galaxy S2 works on ATT without any need to change anything....I'm using it now.
I think ATT should get the Galaxy S 2 before any other U.S. carrier because there is less work needed to be done to it to please ATT's customers......pleasing ATT is another story.

rd_nest said:
I can't understand why Samsung does not say "take it or leave it". It's not a small company and I am pretty sure none of the US carriers could even dream of matching the financial muscle of Sammy (you can forget about the Samsung conglumerate, just talking about Samsung electronics). It's time for Sammy to flex it's muscle.
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Actually At&t has a higher market capital than Samsung.
Maybe even double.

Why are you blaming Samsung for the stupidity of the American providers? Isn't it them who wants Samsung to create phones specific for them?

Vulpix said:
Why are you blaming Samsung for the stupidity of the American providers? Isn't it them who wants Samsung to create phones specific for them?
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Yup and then you have all the retarded American idiots moaning on blogs/websites that they get slower updates then anyone else.
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KingKuba13 said:
Actually At&t has a higher market capital than Samsung.
Maybe even double.
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are you sure? is this just one division of samsung?

KingKuba13 said:
Actually At&t has a higher market capital than Samsung.
Maybe even double.
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This is indeed true, about the market cap, 184 for AT&T vs 132 for Samsung. Wait, it is Billions vs Trillions. Oh, USD vs Won. Duh
So $184B vs $121B , AT&T wins

T-Mobile probably requested something crazy good like this "Hercules" as a marketing tactic. Similar to their new program of trading in old phones, no matter who the service providor of the phone is, for new phones and upgrades with T-Mobile. All in an attempt to bring back some of the declining numbers to T-Mobile.
My guess is they (T-Mo) particularly asked for an outragiously nice phone like the Hercules, also in an attempt to grab a bunch of people back to T-Mo. Chances are, maybe they're trying to see if they can prove they can keep or grow their numbers, then they may not sell out to AT&T..?
All this is theory of course. But why else would T-Mo ask for such a beast of a phone if it was a certainty that they were being bought out? This could possibly be T-Mobile's final stand to prove themselves before giving up.
I mean cmon, if I wasnt with T-mo, I'd freaking switch for a phone like this! blazing internet, awesome customer service, and the absolute best phone on the market! Who wouldnt want that??

lol..lets just hope that the battery capacity is higher than the SGS2!

This is precisely why I went with ever SGS2 on AT&T's network over waiting for a crippled version that gets no updates, because of carrier approval on top of Samsungs customizations.
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Finally a Tmobile model!
This is a fantastic... it's about time we heard some news for Tmobile USA
unfortunately the 4.5" is kinda huge... i changed to a 4.0" from a 5.0" device because it was not pants front pocket friendly
and now going back to 4.5" seems a bit like swimming against the river
but, hell i dig all the other specs, i can make an exception for the 4.5 as long as it's thin like the SGS2 (insert model name here)
Bowsa2511 said:
OK, there's always an international galaxy s (I,II) and variants both regional, and united-states.
There's gonna be 3 variants AT&T Attain, Verizon Function and Sprint Within that seem to share the same form-factor.. though both Verizon and Sprint are cdma... whilst AT&T is gsm.. then there's no mobile announced for T-mobile..
http://androidcommunity.com/us-gala...-verizon-function-and-sprint-within-20110516/
Now we have this super-mega-variant for T-mobile.
"Samsung Hercules"
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/unannounced-samsung-hercules-headed-to-t-mobile-bearing-godli/
Total outcome? International nfc-less model, 3 variants with possibly different software due to radio cdma/gsm, and one super-variant for t-mobile compatible with AT&T but with a different chipset, and a bigger screen!
This is such a headache!
Why can't samsung keep it simple, and have a mix cdma/gsm/lte chip with different design. Not different chipsets, software, and what not.. this is starting to look like a nightmare in terms of porting roms.
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ankushkatari said:
lol..lets just hope that the battery capacity is higher than the SGS2!
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if its anything like the Infuse then my guess would be yes, much better battery. I mean the battery on the Infuse 4g is pretty sick!
estimated nearly 9 hours of talk time?? boo yahhh I'll take it!

i'm not so sure about that a 4.5" screen will such more juice than a 4.3" screen

AllGamer said:
i'm not so sure about that a 4.5" screen will such more juice than a 4.3" screen
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this is true buttttt the SGSii has a 1650 mAh battery while the Infuse4g has a1760 mAh battery.
the Infuse 4g was estimated at 8 hours and 50 minutes.
So I'd hope that the Hercules would be the same =)

kreoXDA said:
This is indeed true, about the market cap, 184 for AT&T vs 132 for Samsung. Wait, it is Billions vs Trillions. Oh, USD vs Won. Duh
So $184B vs $121B , AT&T wins
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Samsung Electronics, which is their phone division. The whole company, Samsung, has to make MUCH more money. You would have to look up all their divisions and add all the money up.

KingKuba13 said:
Actually At&t has a higher market capital than Samsung.
Maybe even double.
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...you certainty don't know Samsung then. Samsung is much bigger than just a mobile phone company.
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dk206 said:
...you certainty don't know Samsung then. Samsung is much bigger than just a mobile phone company.
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Well to be honest, AT&T isnt just a cell providor either. Going by gross revenue, AT&T is one of the largest. And yes, it is above Samsung. Dont get me wrong, Samsung is large, but AT&T has their hands in waayyyy too many things.
Like for instance, the whole reason why the T-Mobile and AT&T merger might actually get approved (even though it is completely and obviously a monopoly over GSM phone service in the US). Alot of the representatives in the FCC were funded for their campaigns by AT&T.
AT&T is very powerful and we all know how many companies they've swallowed up...
like for instance SBC, TCI, Western Electric, Audion, NCR corp, McCaw Communications, Alascom, Media One, Olivetti and Oracle Research, IBM's Global Network division, Bell Systems (22 separate companies), and so on.
JD Power and Associates rated AT&T the leading cable tv, internet, and voip providor for the past 4 years straight since starting "U-Verse" which started 4 years ago.
Samsung hasnt done anything close to that.
AT&T is just money hungry, monopoly loving bastards haha.

Samsung Galaxy S II "confirmed" for Verizon in July

According to PhoneArea a Verizon spokeswomen has confirmed that they will be launching the Samsung Galaxy S II sometime next month.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-confirmed-for-July-touch-down-at-Verizon_id19421
I'm sure AT&T will probably release it around the same time (if not sooner).

This is shocking...
"Although the phone will not be enabled for the LTE 4G network, it probably won't matter to potential buyers as the device has already proven itself to be speedy over 3G pipelines."
What's the purpose of launching a state-of-the-art phone that doesn't run on your state-of-the-art network? Hell, with EVDO, it'll be the slowest of the three U.S. SGS2 variants assuming it's Wi-Max on Sprint and 4G and/or LTE on AT&T. Why carry the phone at all?

Oh well, I don't even have 4G coverage here. By the time I do, I'll probably already be getting a new phone.
Also while I don't put much stock what an email from a Verizon spokesperson says, at least Verizon acknowledges the phone and it will at least come out eventually. I hope it really does come out in July though.

At least it will work on ATT's fake 4G HSPA+.
To work on Verizon's LTE would require a big redesign.

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At least it will work on ATT's fake 4G HSPA+.
To work on Verizon's LTE would require a big redesign.
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I thought it was supposed to be AT&T's first LTE phone? I read that online somewhere but can't find it now. AT&T was also supposed to be the first to launch so maybe the hold up is getting the LTE radio working. AT&T's LTE network is supposed to light up in a couple of weeks and they still have nothing that can run on it. Yet they're introducing a slew of high-end devices that work on a network that's outdated. Strange.
P.S. - Now that I think about it, it may be the combination of CDMA and LTE that prompted VZW and Samsung to skip LTE. That will still be strange though if Sprint's variant ends up being CDMA/Wi-Max.

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I thought it was supposed to be AT&T's first LTE phone? I read that online somewhere but can't find it now. AT&T was also supposed to be the first to launch so maybe the hold up is getting the LTE radio working. AT&T's LTE network is supposed to light up in a couple of weeks and they still have nothing that can run on it. Yet they're introducing a slew of high-end devices that work on a network that's outdated. Strange.
P.S. - Now that I think about it, it may be the combination of CDMA and LTE that prompted VZW and Samsung to skip LTE. That will still be strange though if Sprint's variant ends up being CDMA/Wi-Max.
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Adding the LTE radio and chipset would probably require redesigning the phone. The current LTE phones are really big and thick.

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Adding the LTE radio and chipset would probably require redesigning the phone. The current LTE phones are really big and thick.
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Bad for AT&T but good for all of us who imported a non-branded SGS2. I assumed that AT&T's LTE version was going to make our phones (at least in the U.S.) outdated. If it ends of being the same phone with AT&T "enhancements" it makes our decision (and the price) worthwhile.

Excuse my ignorance, but what are the chances of the carriers making the phone better? I don't know how, just asking.
I don't know if i should just wait to see the differences with the ATT version or just buy the unlocked one now

MrLeon said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the chances of the carriers making the phone better? I don't know how, just asking.
I don't know if i should just wait to see the differences with the ATT version or just buy the unlocked one now
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well there's always the chance you can get a nice cold refreshing glass of lemonade in Hell...

MrLeon said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the chances of the carriers making the phone better? I don't know how, just asking.
I don't know if i should just wait to see the differences with the ATT version or just buy the unlocked one now
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Very close to zero. They will just add bloatware.
The only good thing is the subsidized price.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-said-to-be-verizon-bound-in-july/
damn engadget says they were talking about the New galaxy tab :\

boondoc said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-said-to-be-verizon-bound-in-july/
damn engadget says they were talking about the New galaxy tab :\
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Just saw that as well. LAME!!

Yep, can never trust those spokesperson emails. God damn.

Thank goodness it's for the tab I'm not eligible until 9/4/2011
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You guys need to realize JUST how hard it is to design and properly tune for LTE bands. I work in antenna design, and I can tell you it takes quite a bit to tune the noise down on the LTE frequencies. Add that to the fact that antenna real estate is already extremely tight in an ultra thin device like the SGSII (especially when taking GSM, WIFI, bluetooth, and GPS into account), the only way to get LTE in would be to have one/several of the other bands to suffer AND/OR make the device much, much thicker.
Until active antenna solutions are more readily available, this will continue to be a problem with passive antenna design, especially with small form factor devices like mobile phones.
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would you take this deal?

I GOT A DEAL FROM LOCAL TMOBILE G2+300 FOR samsung galaxy S2

uhhh... I paid 500$ for my G2... i dunno if I'd pay 800 for the galaxy s2. after my poor experience with the original galaxy s, I don't think I will ever have a non htc android phone again.

G1_enthusiast said:
I GOT A DEAL FROM LOCAL TMOBILE G2+300 FOR samsung galaxy S2
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Idk. what condition is your G2 in? thats really what it depends on. if its in mediocre condition then its really only worth about $200. so $500 for a good condition SGSII is a screamin' deal.

silverton said:
uhhh... I paid 500$ for my G2... i dunno if I'd pay 800 for the galaxy s2. after my poor experience with the original galaxy s, I don't think I will ever have a non htc android phone again.
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I hear Samsung has actually gotten more developer-friendly recently, especially after releasing the NS. Either way, I'd wait and see what the reviews and root procedure for the SGS2 are.

dunno about you, but i was still miffed with the fact that samsung refused to sell a gsm version of the epic 4g (unbranded from sprint's crap ofcourse) to the rest of the world. I was so intent on getting it that I hoped it would've appeared 3 months after the epic went on sale in the US....

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dunno about you, but i was still miffed with the fact that samsung refused to sell a gsm version of the epic 4g (unbranded from sprint's crap ofcourse) to the rest of the world. I was so intent on getting it that I hoped it would've appeared 3 months after the epic went on sale in the US....
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You know the Epic 4G is just Sprint's variation of the Galaxy S? T-Mobile's is the Vibrant, AT&T's is the captivate, Sprint's is the Epic 4G, and the global GSM version is the Galaxy S. Sprint just made it fat with a keyboard.

ofcourse i knew it was a variant of the galaxy s. you also do realize that the epic is the only one with a keyboard and the look that i like.
that's why i got a DZ. it has a keyboard. My biggest prereq is that is HAS to have a physical keyboard

mputtr said:
ofcourse i knew it was a variant of the galaxy s. you also do realize that the epic is the only one with a keyboard and the look that i like.
that's why i got a DZ. it has a keyboard. My biggest prereq is that is HAS to have a physical keyboard
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The reason why it has a keyboard is because Sprint stipulated that it had to. In other words, Samsung didn't want it to have a keyboard but made one as a Sprint exclusive. Aka Samsung wouldn't be able to sell a GSM version to the rest of the world because it was a 1-carrier build. Why is that Samsung's fault? Its Sprints fault for wanting the exclusive. Not to mention that Samsung would have never made a keyboard one if Sprint didn't ask.

blackknightavalon said:
I hear Samsung has actually gotten more developer-friendly recently, especially after releasing the NS. Either way, I'd wait and see what the reviews and root procedure for the SGS2 are.
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The reviews are already out. The SGSII has been out in Europe for a while and every review I see has said nothing but great things.

martonikaj said:
The reason why it has a keyboard is because Sprint stipulated that it had to. In other words, Samsung didn't want it to have a keyboard but made one as a Sprint exclusive. Aka Samsung wouldn't be able to sell a GSM version to the rest of the world because it was a 1-carrier build. Why is that Samsung's fault? Its Sprints fault for wanting the exclusive. Not to mention that Samsung would have never made a keyboard one if Sprint didn't ask.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but all I'm saying is that I'm not happy that Samsung did not decide to release a gsm version. It does not matter if it was sprint's stipulation or anyone else's for that matter. the point is that they never released a gsm version and that I would've bought it if it was for a gsm network.
No need to go defensive for samsung. Not to mention that it is not difficult for them to sell a gsm variant for the epic.
after all this is simply my view on what I would've gone for if I had a chance, but i'm unhappy that they didn't because it was such a nice phone.

mputtr said:
I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but all I'm saying is that I'm not happy that Samsung did not decide to release a gsm version. It does not matter if it was sprint's stipulation or anyone else's for that matter. the point is that they never released a gsm version and that I would've bought it if it was for a gsm network.
No need to go defensive for samsung. Not to mention that it is not difficult for them to sell a gsm variant for the epic.
after all this is simply my view on what I would've gone for if I had a chance, but i'm unhappy that they didn't because it was such a nice phone.
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I'm explaining to you that Sprint had an exclusive on the Galaxy S + keyboard (they designed it, they keep it). They wouldn't let Samsung sell a GSM version in the US or abroad for that matter. Don't hate Samsung because Sprint told them not to release it anywhere else lol.

martonikaj said:
I'm explaining to you that Sprint had an exclusive on the Galaxy S + keyboard (they designed it, they keep it). They wouldn't let Samsung sell a GSM version in the US or abroad for that matter. Don't hate Samsung because Sprint told them not to release it anywhere else lol.
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Source?
10 chars.

i've never heard about sprint not allowing samsung to sell a gsm version. maybe exclusivity in the US but dunno about worldwide.

mputtr said:
i've never heard about sprint not allowing samsung to sell a gsm version. maybe exclusivity in the US but dunno about worldwide.
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When carriers ask for a customization for a phone, that phone doesn't exist anywhere else. It was clear that Samsung was going to sell their variant of the Galaxy S without a keyboard. They sold the i9000 version in Europe sans keyboard, that was their unlocked GSM version. Sprint requested the keyboard and got it. Samsung made that phone for Sprint, its not like they had it in the pipeline and Sprint stole it as an exclusive to keep it CDMA. Its pretty clear Samsung was willing to do whatever the US carriers wanted by re-designing the phone 4 times for all the major carriers, and even some regionals.
I'd understand your frustration if it was a GSM worldphone kept on lock to AT&T/T-mobile, but in reality they'd have to redesign it to be a GSM version, and whether Sprint wanted this to be the only keyboard Galaxy S or not, Samsung surely wasn't going to make a GSM version of it.
But regardless, this has absolutely nothing to do with OP's question...

Which is exactly why i dont understand why you were so intent on arguing this when its not related to the op. It simply seems to me that you are arguing for the sake of doing so
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i'm so mad at samsung

why couldn't samsung make the galaxy note a pentaband just like the Galaxy Nexus? man i'm mad i think they do that on purpose to sell more phones.i just saw the galxy nexus review on engadget. i'm confuse to which one to get, i'm on t-mobile don't want to go to at&t for the note and i love the note more than the nexus. man they're foever playing with us and our money, they never want to give you what you want in one device

You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.

Their initial focus for the Note is obviously not the US, T-Mobile is not the biggest carrier in the US, and T-Mobile uses the AWS frequency range, which almost no one in the world uses. (Does anyone else use 1700/2100?) As much as I would love it if it were Pentaband, I'm not at all surprised that it isn't.
As to the Nexus, it is the ICS flagship, and so Google/Samsung will want it released in as many places as possible, so including AWS makes more sense. The Note, in comparison, might end up being a niche product, so there is probably less pressure to rush it to minor segments.

mircury said:
You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.
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The new Snapdragon S4 chip does provide full broadband frequences:
"• First Fully Integrated 3G/4G: The S4 class includes the
industry’s first fully integrated LTE world mode/multimode
modem"

man you are so right about this part.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.[/QUOTE]
i never even realize this until now, man we're screwed bigtime in u.s

3_D said:
The new Snapdragon S4 chip does provide full broadband frequences:
"• First Fully Integrated 3G/4G: The S4 class includes the
industry’s first fully integrated LTE world mode/multimode
modem"
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That would be nice! I hope Samsung's Exynos follows suit or they start using the S4.

mircury said:
You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.
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I am happy with Hsdpa+. It's fast enough.
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