I have the 32GB version D802, rooted, with pardus HD rom v6. SD card total space is 24.84. Is there any way I can increase the total space available on the device? I know you're not supposed to get the whole 32GB, depending on the filesystem, however I think losing almost 8GB of space is ridiculous. For example, the 32GB version of the IPAD mini leaves you with 28GB of user accesible space.
Yea but iPad is not the same as android the os is themed highly compared to stock aosp and takes about 4-5gb then there's bloat and android reserves about 2gb to install apps from play store
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So there's no way, huh ?
Install cm that has a lot less bloat
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bogdyro said:
So there's no way, huh ?
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I uninstalled many bloatware/system apps using titanium backup pro and it doesn't increase the size of the storage. I think it has to do with the partitioning of the storage, which 7.2, where all system file is stored, with some allowance so that if you manage to full the storage the phone will not die. I'm just guessing. LOL :angel:
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Install cm that has a lot less bloat
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For whatever reason LG decided to set up this phone. The way they did that wont do any. The system partition will stay overly large even if you do use a smaller Rom.
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Hmm thats weird it is lg though not that surprised
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Hmm thats weird it is lg though not that surprised
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Yep. It is annoying. Strange having my old 32 GB galaxy nexus having the full 28 GB but my far newer G2 having only 24.
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First of all: Phone's tottal memmory is 32 000 000 000 bytes which devided by 1024 = 31*250*000 KBytes, which /1024 = 30*517 MBytes, which /1024 = 29.8 GBytes TOTTAL Formated space !
Free Space for user is ~ 24.8 GB
Which means that ALL the partitions in phone's memmory (apart form SDCARD partition) combined are ~ 5 GB
In this 5 GB you have ROM (~2.5 GB), Bootloader, Recovery partition...
But, not all the partitions are full with data, they all have some free space in them, but that free space is not populated to phone tottal free memmory because it is not accessible by the user
Just found this thread about resizing the system partition. Kind of a taboo subject i guess. No one is giving a positive answer.
My very first Android device, the NOOKcolor 8GB, 1st gen, so technically, 'bout 7GB, they reserved 5GB for system and data partitions, left us 2GB for end-user storage.
Yeah, enjoy that.
Good thing was there was a way to re-partition.
For the G2, I haven't heard anyone mentioned about how to.
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Yea but iPad is not the same as android the os is themed highly compared to stock aosp and takes about 4-5gb then there's bloat and android reserves about 2gb to install apps from play store
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IOS is different to android. They have different apps and config that contribute to system space of the phone.
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OK, so the debate over partitioning in CM10 is all but done and I'm not going to discuss it here.
I've been building CM10 for my own use with the partition layout change reverted and this works nicely for me. But what about people who can't compile the source for themselves (for whatever reason)?
That's why I'm posting this brief guide to what I'm calling "fudgedating" (its like updating). Using the method below you will be able to stay up to date with all the CM10 nightly updates (except kernel changes) without compiling or doing anything difficult.
ALWAYS MAKE A NANDROID BEFORE FLASHING
I'VE TESTED THIS WITH CM10 NIGHTLIES FROM 23082012 & 22082012 BUT IF IT FAILS TO WORK FOR YOU THEN I'M SORRY, THAT'S LIFE. RESTORE YOUR BACKUP & MOVE ON
What you'll need:
1. My cm-10-20120918-FISHEARS-galaxysmtd.zip file (my nightly that has a working kernel with the old partition layout)
2. Any current Nightly zip of CM10
3. A computer with a Zip-capable archive tool
What you need to do:
1. Make a copy of cm-10-20120918-FISHEARS-galaxysmtd.zip and call it something like CM10-FUDGEDATE.zip
2. delete the /system folder from within CM10-FUDGEDATE.zip (or whatever you called it)
3. extract the /system folder from your official CM10 Nightly
4. add that /system folder to your CM10-FUDGEDATE.zip (or whatever you called it)
Now you have a CM10-FUDGEDATE.zip (or whatever you called it) containing the kernel and partition layout from cm-10-20120918-FISHEARS-galaxysmtd.zip and the system from the CM10 Nightly.
Copy CM10-FUDGEDATE.zip (or whatever you called it) to your SD card and flash it in CWM.
Reboot & profit
NOTE: currently you can NOT flash any custom kernels because there aren't any that support the latest CM10 while still having the old partition layout.
Whenever you want to repeat the process for a new Nighly, just do steps 2,3 & 4 again and flash it as before.
Please don't flame this thread. If you think its a bad idea then please state only technical objections to support your view.
All credit to Team Hacksung & Pawitp for the awesome effort that continues to go into CM10.
Well... old partition nightlies worked very good for me.So I will try this.
Anyway I noticed there are some jb ROMs with less changes than yours calling theirselfs stable so far etc.
Will you make thread of cm10 (or call it like you want) with old partition and newest nightly?
Thanks. Sorry for poor English.
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Thanks but I don't want to start the hard work of maintaining a ROM thread. This is just instructions to stay up to date.
I do compile my own CM10 which you can download by clicking on my signature. Again, I won't be starting a thread for this as its really just for me but I don't mind sharing.
I will change the thread title though.
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Well.works good for me no deference betwin this or other layout.Thank you very much
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Well.works good for me no deference betwin this or other layout.Thank you very much
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That's good to know. I think we both must have phones with the faster NAND because I didn't see any improvement when the official partition layout changed.
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That's good to know. I think we both must have phones with the faster NAND because I didn't see any improvement when the official partition layout changed.
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2011.3.10 my phone's production date.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818372
You can check your's.
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2011.3.10 my phone's production date.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818372
You can check your's.
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Yeah, mine was made April 2011. No reason for us to lose all that data space
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thanks for sharing this with us
i'll try this
fishears one more question can i flash your latest rom without wipe?
Thanks.
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fishears one more question can i flash your latest rom without wipe?
Thanks.
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No need to wipe.
If you are flashing a new build over a previous one then you also don't need to reflash gapps
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No need to wipe.
If you are flashing a new build over a previous one then you also don't need to reflash gapps
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Thanks.
thanks
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Hit thanks to fishears.
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Managed to install your rom, and I got what I want. However I have a probler with Adaway said: /data/data/host not enough spare. Try Adfree solve the problem. Anyway thank you for the idea and rom.
Edit: Just discovered that System had only 300k free space out of 350MB. Maybe I have to delete some not important apk (like those live wallpapers) & unused ringtones.
Edit2: After deleting Chinese & Korean fonts Droidsansfallback , MTL* & Nanum Gothic, I got 12MB free space and Adaway runs smoothly.
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Managed to install your rom, and I got what I want. However I have a probler with Adaway said: /data/data/host not enough spare. Try Adfree solve the problem. Anyway thank you for the idea and rom.
Edit: Just discovered that System had only 300k free space out of 350MB. Maybe I have to delete some not important apk (like those live wallpapers) & unused ringtones.
Edit2: After deleting Chinese & Korean fonts Droidsansfallback , MTL* & Nanum Gothic, I got 12MB free space and Adaway runs smoothly.
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Good I also deleted cmwallpapers and DSP manager.
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Good I also deleted cmwallpapers and DSP manager.
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I usually have around 15mb free on /system after deleting only Exchange & Movie Studio
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I usually have around 15mb free on /system after deleting only Exchange & Movie Studio
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Never mind, your released rom should be as is, let us delete whatever we want. Easier for you and less trouble for us.TQ
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Never mind, your released rom should be as is, let us delete whatever we want. Easier for you and less trouble for us.TQ
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That's fine. I think pawitp might get a bit lazy with the system size now that his build has a 2gb /system
Maybe I'll have to trim it down in the future.
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A rom more in line with the Slim Bean philosophy (about 280mb system with google apps) would even allow you to create a larger datadata partition (at the expense of unused system partition space, circa 80mb) and improve usability. Using this mind-frame i guess we could gain some 50mb to datadata while still keeping 30mb free in system for people who want to add some removed system apps.
Nevertheless, this is your rom and ultimately your decision.
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A rom more in line with the Slim Bean philosophy (about 280mb system with google apps) would even allow you to create a larger datadata partition (at the expense of unused system partition space, circa 80mb) and improve usability. Using this mind-frame i guess we could gain some 50mb to datadata while still keeping 30mb free in system for people who want to add some removed system apps.
Nevertheless, this is your rom and ultimately your decision.
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Its a good idea & perfectly possible. Pawitp just asked for some chip id data in the CM10 thread. It looks like lags could be associated with phones having the older Samsung MoviNand chip. Newer devices have a Sandisk iNand (same as Nexus S). I have the Sandisk so that's why the new partition layout made no difference to me. I'm not sure that increasing datadata would help. I don't use it because I don't see any gain in practice.
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I'm still using my 8GB Nexus and I'm currently on a 3.x version of Clean ROM. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer ROM, since they seem to have a ton of nice features and built-in ways to customize the ROM to an individual taste. My concern is that I can't find any information on how much space a ROM uses. Is this because they are all slimmed down vs stock or is everyone assuming the 8GB Nexus 7 has gone the way of the dinosaurs?
Does any one have a suggestion on which ROMs use the least space?
I'm currently looking to try the following ROMs, any concerns regarding space usage?
- [ROM] [April 20][4.2.2][SmoothROM v5.1]
- [ROM] [May 2][CM10.1|4.2.2] JellyBeer-v4.18
I'm open to other recommendations. TIA!
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I'm still using my 8GB Nexus and I'm currently on a 3.x version of Clean ROM. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer ROM, since they seem to have a ton of nice features and built-in ways to customize the ROM to an individual taste. My concern is that I can't find any information on how much space a ROM uses. Is this because they are all slimmed down vs stock or is everyone assuming the 8GB Nexus 7 has gone the way of the dinosaurs?
Does any one have a suggestion on which ROMs use the least space?
I'm currently looking to try the following ROMs, any concerns regarding space usage?
- [ROM] [April 20][4.2.2][SmoothROM v5.1]
- [ROM] [May 2][CM10.1|4.2.2] JellyBeer-v4.18
I'm open to other recommendations. TIA!
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Roms won't take up the storage that you have. It will overwrite the system with the new ROM. That space is reserved only for the rom.
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sfsilicon said:
I'm still using my 8GB Nexus and I'm currently on a 3.x version of Clean ROM. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer ROM, since they seem to have a ton of nice features and built-in ways to customize the ROM to an individual taste. My concern is that I can't find any information on how much space a ROM uses. Is this because they are all slimmed down vs stock or is everyone assuming the 8GB Nexus 7 has gone the way of the dinosaurs?
Does any one have a suggestion on which ROMs use the least space?
I'm currently looking to try the following ROMs, any concerns regarding space usage?
- [ROM] [April 20][4.2.2][SmoothROM v5.1]
- [ROM] [May 2][CM10.1|4.2.2] JellyBeer-v4.18
I'm open to other recommendations. TIA!
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Well, given that nobody has yet managed to crack 'nvFlash in APX' mode, there is as of yet no way of resizing partitions... so I would assume that devs. (regardless of ROM or device) are forced to work within the same 640Mb system partition size limit... which essentially is where the ROM 'lives'.
Checkout this simple diagnostic - DeviceInfo - http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jphilli85.deviceinfo.
Here is what my 16Gb Nexus 7 is showing...
670 826 496 bytes - SYSTEM PARTITION (Around 640Mb)
14 215 020 544 bytes - DATA PARTITION (Around 13.24Gb)
These figures haven't changed from Stock to the ROM I'm currently running.
I suspect your 8Gb Nexus will show an identical SYSTEM PARTITION size to mine, but a smaller DATA PARTITION.
So, I think you're free to flash whatever ROM you want.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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Roms won't take up the storage that you have. It will overwrite the system with the new ROM. That space is reserved only for the rom.
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GedBlake said:
Well, given that nobody has yet managed to crack 'nvFlash in APX' mode, there is as of yet no way of resizing partitions... so I would assume that devs. (regardless of ROM or device) are forced to work within the same 640Mb system partition size limit... which essentially is where the ROM 'lives'.
I suspect your 8Gb Nexus will show an identical SYSTEM PARTITION size to mine, but a smaller DATA PARTITION.
So, I think you're free to flash whatever ROM you want.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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Thank you both. I went ahead and installed Smooth ROM and had no issues with free space. Thanks for your help.
16 GB phone - 12.6 GB usable when I did a fresh SD wipe = 3.4 GB to be accounted for...
Please don't tell me that the Android OS is taking up 3.4 GB...
On the 16gb version you should have about 12.9gb free after a complete wipe.
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16 GB phone - 12.6 GB usable when I did a fresh SD wipe = 3.4 GB to be accounted for...
Please don't tell me that the Android OS is taking up 3.4 GB...
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You should have 12.9gb. That's how the position is made. For system, dev, cache and so on. Not all of it is used up. Some free space is still left depending on what system apps you have, how much goes into cache and so on..
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Does this make sense to anyone? My device shows 1.08gb free space, but I only have about 7.5gb in occupied space. What's screwed up here?
Its a 16gb Nexus 4 running CM 10.2, the latest nightly.
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Does this make sense to anyone? My device shows 1.08gb free space, but I only have about 7.5gb in occupied space. What's screwed up here?
Its a 16gb Nexus 4 running CM 10.2, the latest nightly.
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4gb is allocated to the system.
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Does this make sense to anyone? My device shows 1.08gb free space, but I only have about 7.5gb in occupied space. What's screwed up here?
Its a 16gb Nexus 4 running CM 10.2, the latest nightly.
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Did you do a factory reset before going to cm10?
EDIT: Can you please take a screenshot of settings-storage. It should look similar to this
How many nandroids do you currently have?
Will this work on our beloved g2 as well?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234515
Thanks max.
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Good Question
Would also be interested if this is possible
WebOS is a different animal compared to Android. And Im sure this wont be possible with a locked bootloader. Messing with the partitions is dumb imo, thats the easiest way to hard brick a device.
Guys I came from an LG nitro and we had several issues with modified system partitions really screwing things up. Messing with your system partition is the fastest way to end up with a shiny paperweight. Don't do it.
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Hutch89 said:
Guys I came from an LG nitro and we had several issues with modified system partitions really screwing things up. Messing with your system partition is the fastest way to end up with a shiny paperweight. Don't do it.
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I can agree with you but it's a total nonsense that I bought a 32gb G2 version and available disk space sis just 24gb... hope lg will release some kind of fix/workaround soon
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I can agree with you but it's a total nonsense that I bought a 32gb G2 version and available disk space sis just 24gb... hope lg will release some kind of fix/workaround soon
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Why would they? Its partitioned that way to hold the size of their default software...
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Would definitely love for more free space especially since i'm running cm11 and the rom is practically a little over 200MB.
Probably some of the devs can have a look at this
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The system partition is 3.2 GB. It isn't like you can go from 24 to 31 GB free. If your that desperate over an extra gig, you might need to reevaluate what you have on your phone, or invest in a microsd usb card reader.
Also, 200 MB is most likely the size of the zip file, you are using to install the rom. That is compressed size. Mahdi rom (I have on my pc at moment so could check), is 208 MB compressed.. The actual install size is 351 MB. That doesn't include gapps, which also installs to the system partion. The core gapps package is 18MB but installs to be 30 MB. And that is assuming you are using core, the full packages are MUCH larger.
So theoretically, you could free up maybe 2.7GB. Is it really worth a good chance at bricking your phone for that?
This might sound dumb, but I'll say it anyway...
There is media in /system/media, not sure about songs, but certainly ringtones etc
I wonder if one could dump a few gigs of mp3's into /system to make better use of the space, and less use of the media drive (/sdcard).
Henryy97 said:
Would definitely love for more free space especially since i'm running cm11 and the rom is practically a little over 200MB.
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I agree, 1gb system partition should be enough
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Probably some of the devs can have a look at this
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we need to unlock bootloader to be able to resize partitions
It would be nice to be able to shrink the system partition. I've attached a sample screen of my G2 that is running CM11 nightlies.
But yeah, dropping the system to 1GB would leave plenty of room and boost the 24.1GB up by about 2.2GB to 26.3GB (a 9% increase which is fairly significant).
As others have mentioned though there is the issue of the bootloader.
On a second thought...I recall the unroot/unbricking flash tool causing some issues for people related to phone storage sizes.
I wonder if someone creative might be able to create an image with custom partition sizes via this method.
If u cant resize the partitions, IT would be kind a awesome to create a custom recovery like safestrap or boot Menu Manager which can create multiple System Slots so that u have multiple Systems on ur g2. So Let's say a aosp rom and a modded Stock rom at da same time.
Like so that devs See that.
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Does any one have any clue on how to resize the /system? I have been researching on how it's done on other devices but no luck using the same methods.
You can't. Enjoy your phone as it is
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Please ! I know it's possible, but how ?
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I would also apreciate that. Having a 16Gb phone with just 10Gb free is a waste of space.
Stock Roms may be 3.2Gb compressed and inflate to 6GB uncompressed, but I am running on CM11, which only should be 500MB at most, when uncompressed.
Also this phone not having a micro SD card really kind of messes it up.
i have 2 galaxy s variant (epic4g sprint usa & sc-02b docomo japan) both have long journey in development history from cm7 to latest cm-11
the partition size was change several times to accommodate bigger system files in newer version
afaik it can be set in kernel source for both device on mtd samsung onenand driver
I don't know about g2 because I just own this device for 2 days lol
I have 16gb, so find a dev who works on this will be a great news for me
Anybody found anything useful regarding shrinking the partition?