Space usage of latest ROMs on a 8GB Nexus 7 - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm still using my 8GB Nexus and I'm currently on a 3.x version of Clean ROM. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer ROM, since they seem to have a ton of nice features and built-in ways to customize the ROM to an individual taste. My concern is that I can't find any information on how much space a ROM uses. Is this because they are all slimmed down vs stock or is everyone assuming the 8GB Nexus 7 has gone the way of the dinosaurs?
Does any one have a suggestion on which ROMs use the least space?
I'm currently looking to try the following ROMs, any concerns regarding space usage?
- [ROM] [April 20][4.2.2][SmoothROM v5.1]
- [ROM] [May 2][CM10.1|4.2.2] JellyBeer-v4.18
I'm open to other recommendations. TIA!

sfsilicon said:
I'm still using my 8GB Nexus and I'm currently on a 3.x version of Clean ROM. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer ROM, since they seem to have a ton of nice features and built-in ways to customize the ROM to an individual taste. My concern is that I can't find any information on how much space a ROM uses. Is this because they are all slimmed down vs stock or is everyone assuming the 8GB Nexus 7 has gone the way of the dinosaurs?
Does any one have a suggestion on which ROMs use the least space?
I'm currently looking to try the following ROMs, any concerns regarding space usage?
- [ROM] [April 20][4.2.2][SmoothROM v5.1]
- [ROM] [May 2][CM10.1|4.2.2] JellyBeer-v4.18
I'm open to other recommendations. TIA!
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Roms won't take up the storage that you have. It will overwrite the system with the new ROM. That space is reserved only for the rom.
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sfsilicon said:
I'm still using my 8GB Nexus and I'm currently on a 3.x version of Clean ROM. I'm looking to upgrade to a newer ROM, since they seem to have a ton of nice features and built-in ways to customize the ROM to an individual taste. My concern is that I can't find any information on how much space a ROM uses. Is this because they are all slimmed down vs stock or is everyone assuming the 8GB Nexus 7 has gone the way of the dinosaurs?
Does any one have a suggestion on which ROMs use the least space?
I'm currently looking to try the following ROMs, any concerns regarding space usage?
- [ROM] [April 20][4.2.2][SmoothROM v5.1]
- [ROM] [May 2][CM10.1|4.2.2] JellyBeer-v4.18
I'm open to other recommendations. TIA!
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Well, given that nobody has yet managed to crack 'nvFlash in APX' mode, there is as of yet no way of resizing partitions... so I would assume that devs. (regardless of ROM or device) are forced to work within the same 640Mb system partition size limit... which essentially is where the ROM 'lives'.
Checkout this simple diagnostic - DeviceInfo - http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jphilli85.deviceinfo.
Here is what my 16Gb Nexus 7 is showing...
670 826 496 bytes - SYSTEM PARTITION (Around 640Mb)
14 215 020 544 bytes - DATA PARTITION (Around 13.24Gb)
These figures haven't changed from Stock to the ROM I'm currently running.
I suspect your 8Gb Nexus will show an identical SYSTEM PARTITION size to mine, but a smaller DATA PARTITION.
So, I think you're free to flash whatever ROM you want.
Rgrds,
Ged.

scream4cheese said:
Roms won't take up the storage that you have. It will overwrite the system with the new ROM. That space is reserved only for the rom.
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GedBlake said:
Well, given that nobody has yet managed to crack 'nvFlash in APX' mode, there is as of yet no way of resizing partitions... so I would assume that devs. (regardless of ROM or device) are forced to work within the same 640Mb system partition size limit... which essentially is where the ROM 'lives'.
I suspect your 8Gb Nexus will show an identical SYSTEM PARTITION size to mine, but a smaller DATA PARTITION.
So, I think you're free to flash whatever ROM you want.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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Thank you both. I went ahead and installed Smooth ROM and had no issues with free space. Thanks for your help.

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Ext4 Roms

What are some of the roms in the mytouch 4g thread that support appstoext4, currently using a zip file that supports apps2sd (thanks to that dev) but i do prefer using the ext partition. I also prefer aosp to sense, but if there are some sense roms that support apps2ext i will def check them out. Thanks for looking @ my thread and any information is welcome
Why would you need the ext partition in MT4G? ~1GB of internal RAM isn't good enough?
And if you're talking about reformatting /data with EXT4, why is it of any concern?
No, 1gb of ram is not enough for everyone especially me. I have tons of apps/games i install to my phone and the only way i can do this atm is with apps2sd which is decent, but having them installed to an ext4 partition makes them run faster then if they were on sdcard. It's ok i understand why you would think 1gb of ram is enough.
If you're installing the downloaded part of the game on the internal memory (it's not RAM, my mistake - it's probably best to refer to as just internal memory), I can understand why.
In any case, the solution might be to use A2SD by DarkTremor on any ROM that you like, which you're probably doing already. I don't think many ROMs bother to support A2SD initially, since the demand for it is very small.
Ya, using dark tremors flashable zip for the moment until i can either find a rom that supports apps2ext(4) or someone educates me on which rom does support it lol Either way problem is very temporary anyways since my upgradeis in August...tho i may just wait till the Hercules or Nexus 3 come out since my last phone was a g1. This MT4G i got from craigslist with a sweet deal and blows away the g1 haha

[ROM][CWM][Stock 3.2][7310UELA3][rooted + busybox] P7310 WiFi-only

Region: XAR (USA)
Build date: 17-01-2012
This is, as the title says, a Stock 3.2 ROM, CWM flashable, provided as-is, no support for this stock ROM.
CWM Recovery flashable (with Stock Kernel)
Installing overwrites the /system partition so be sure to backup your apps.
Deodexed
Zipaligned
Rooted + busybox (most recent files + zero issues with Superuser)
Also works great with _motley's kernel for Honeycomb 3.2.
Since it is a deodexed ROM, the first boot will take a while. Give it at least 5-10 minutes.
For backup, do a Nandroid to backup your existing ROM with CWM (How-to here)
For a fresh install (better safe than sorry) please use the Wipe data/Factory Reset from CWM Recovery and then flash the zip. When it boots, it will start the setup wizard like you just bought it.
MD5 - 218166CA34E3CD57B9A6CB8C7D5F6C1B
DOWNLOAD LINK
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Optional Overcome v1.2 look (with blue toggles) provided below along with a revert. I just ported it, please don't ask for further mods.
Theme - LINK
Stock Theme - LINK
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Credit goes to:
motley (for helping me on learning how to do this)
kallt_kaffe (for his tips regarding Root troubleshooting)
alterbridge86 (for the Overcome theme I ported over)
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what region is XAR?
Thanks so much though, this seems to work much better than overcome for me. The ebook app still doesn't work and I'm not sure why :/
DBBGBA said:
what region is XAR?
Thanks so much though, this seems to work much better than overcome for me. The ebook app still doesn't work and I'm not sure why :/
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XAR is USA. Before I debloated my unit (currently using this firmware), Ebook opened normally, although I quit as soon as it opened so I don't know.
nirogu325 said:
. Before I debloated my unit (currently using this firmware).
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What do you prefer this or [ROM][ICS][P7300/P7310]Unofficial CyanogenMod 9[2012-02-10]?
I'm looking for something thats stable and quick. I've tried the lastest Overcome and found to be the best IMO, but it constantly crashes especially with the browser.
rkum19 said:
What do you prefer this or [ROM][ICS][P7300/P7310]Unofficial CyanogenMod 9[2012-02-10]?
I'm looking for something thats stable and quick. I've tried the lastest Overcome and found to be the best IMO, but it constantly crashes especially with the browser.
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If you are aiming for something stable (with Camera working, compass and everything) then look no further. If you want to play with something more advanced, but with some little bugs here and there then go with CM9 or the Beta. I hope that helps you out.
Edit: As of 2/22/12, Overcome is once more based on official firmware. It is fine now.
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Does it have TouchWiz?
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tarrytownfads said:
Does it have TouchWiz?
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Yes. Stock = TouchWiz.
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Why is this ROM so large?
nirogu325,
I am looking to save space on my 16GB GTab here, and I was going to put this in my storage as a backup means to go back to stock (rather than keeping a 1.3GB nandroid on board).
Just curious why is this ROM coming in at 396180 KB while the ICS ROMs (like Galaxian soup) come in less than 170000KB when you include the GApps zip size?
I notice the Overcome ROM is pretty big as well (on par with the stock rooted).
Is ICS just that much leaner than the Honeycomb ROMs?
Thanks!
spiff72 said:
nirogu325,
I am looking to save space on my 16GB GTab here, and I was going to put this in my storage as a backup means to go back to stock (rather than keeping a 1.3GB nandroid on board).
Just curious why is this ROM coming in at 396180 KB while the ICS ROMs (like Galaxian soup) come in less than 170000KB when you include the GApps zip size?
I notice the Overcome ROM is pretty big as well (on par with the stock rooted).
Is ICS just that much leaner than the Honeycomb ROMs?
Thanks!
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You hit the nail in the head. You've to take into consideration the whole TouchWiz layer (apps, framework, widgets & more) which weights more. ICS is a very lightweight and optimized OS when compared to the rushed OS that's Honeycomb.
Edit: Although if I were you I'd have this ROM as a backup measure. It is the most stable version for Honeycomb, had it for months without issues.
nirogu325 said:
You hit the nail in the head. You've to take into consideration the whole TouchWiz layer (apps, framework, widgets & more) which weights more. ICS is a very lightweight and optimized OS when compared to the rushed OS that's Honeycomb.
Edit: Although if I were you I'd have this ROM as a backup measure. It is the most stable version for Honeycomb, had it for months without issues.
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Like I said - I am just looking for excuses to clean off my internal storage. I figure I can put this flashable zip on the tablet for emergency use, as opposed to leaving a 1.3GB Nandroid backup of the tablet on there (the only thing I would lose is the setup work I did to get all my apps on the device before I rooted and did the Nandroid).
This saves me 1GB (roughly)!
Thanks
Jeff
spiff72 said:
Like I said - I am just looking for excuses to clean off my internal storage. I figure I can put this flashable zip on the tablet for emergency use, as opposed to leaving a 1.3GB Nandroid backup of the tablet on there (the only thing I would lose is the setup work I did to get all my apps on the device before I rooted and did the Nandroid).
This saves me 1GB (roughly)!
Thanks
Jeff
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No problem! 1GB is still 1GB in this non-expandable tablet!
I am planning on using this until ICS is 100% stable.
Is the battery life at least the same if not better then out of the box stock?
It should be but I was just curious...battery life is the most important feature I need.
Thanks
slatestud said:
I am planning on using this until ICS is 100% stable.
Is the battery life at least the same if not better then out of the box stock?
It should be but I was just curious...battery life is the most important feature I need.
Thanks
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This is, as the title says, a stock ROM. None of the added features touch battery life. Go ahead and flash with peace of mind.

Resizing system partition to get more space

Will this work on our beloved g2 as well?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234515
Thanks max.
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Good Question
Would also be interested if this is possible
WebOS is a different animal compared to Android. And Im sure this wont be possible with a locked bootloader. Messing with the partitions is dumb imo, thats the easiest way to hard brick a device.
Guys I came from an LG nitro and we had several issues with modified system partitions really screwing things up. Messing with your system partition is the fastest way to end up with a shiny paperweight. Don't do it.
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Hutch89 said:
Guys I came from an LG nitro and we had several issues with modified system partitions really screwing things up. Messing with your system partition is the fastest way to end up with a shiny paperweight. Don't do it.
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I can agree with you but it's a total nonsense that I bought a 32gb G2 version and available disk space sis just 24gb... hope lg will release some kind of fix/workaround soon
provolinoo said:
I can agree with you but it's a total nonsense that I bought a 32gb G2 version and available disk space sis just 24gb... hope lg will release some kind of fix/workaround soon
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Why would they? Its partitioned that way to hold the size of their default software...
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Would definitely love for more free space especially since i'm running cm11 and the rom is practically a little over 200MB.
Probably some of the devs can have a look at this
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The system partition is 3.2 GB. It isn't like you can go from 24 to 31 GB free. If your that desperate over an extra gig, you might need to reevaluate what you have on your phone, or invest in a microsd usb card reader.
Also, 200 MB is most likely the size of the zip file, you are using to install the rom. That is compressed size. Mahdi rom (I have on my pc at moment so could check), is 208 MB compressed.. The actual install size is 351 MB. That doesn't include gapps, which also installs to the system partion. The core gapps package is 18MB but installs to be 30 MB. And that is assuming you are using core, the full packages are MUCH larger.
So theoretically, you could free up maybe 2.7GB. Is it really worth a good chance at bricking your phone for that?
This might sound dumb, but I'll say it anyway...
There is media in /system/media, not sure about songs, but certainly ringtones etc
I wonder if one could dump a few gigs of mp3's into /system to make better use of the space, and less use of the media drive (/sdcard).
Henryy97 said:
Would definitely love for more free space especially since i'm running cm11 and the rom is practically a little over 200MB.
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I agree, 1gb system partition should be enough
SupriseMadaafaca said:
Probably some of the devs can have a look at this
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we need to unlock bootloader to be able to resize partitions
It would be nice to be able to shrink the system partition. I've attached a sample screen of my G2 that is running CM11 nightlies.
But yeah, dropping the system to 1GB would leave plenty of room and boost the 24.1GB up by about 2.2GB to 26.3GB (a 9% increase which is fairly significant).
As others have mentioned though there is the issue of the bootloader.
On a second thought...I recall the unroot/unbricking flash tool causing some issues for people related to phone storage sizes.
I wonder if someone creative might be able to create an image with custom partition sizes via this method.
If u cant resize the partitions, IT would be kind a awesome to create a custom recovery like safestrap or boot Menu Manager which can create multiple System Slots so that u have multiple Systems on ur g2. So Let's say a aosp rom and a modded Stock rom at da same time.
Like so that devs See that.
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Does any one have any clue on how to resize the /system? I have been researching on how it's done on other devices but no luck using the same methods.
You can't. Enjoy your phone as it is
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Please ! I know it's possible, but how ?
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I would also apreciate that. Having a 16Gb phone with just 10Gb free is a waste of space.
Stock Roms may be 3.2Gb compressed and inflate to 6GB uncompressed, but I am running on CM11, which only should be 500MB at most, when uncompressed.
Also this phone not having a micro SD card really kind of messes it up.
i have 2 galaxy s variant (epic4g sprint usa & sc-02b docomo japan) both have long journey in development history from cm7 to latest cm-11
the partition size was change several times to accommodate bigger system files in newer version
afaik it can be set in kernel source for both device on mtd samsung onenand driver
I don't know about g2 because I just own this device for 2 days lol
I have 16gb, so find a dev who works on this will be a great news for me
Anybody found anything useful regarding shrinking the partition?

[Q]more than 24,8 GB of space

I have the 32GB version D802, rooted, with pardus HD rom v6. SD card total space is 24.84. Is there any way I can increase the total space available on the device? I know you're not supposed to get the whole 32GB, depending on the filesystem, however I think losing almost 8GB of space is ridiculous. For example, the 32GB version of the IPAD mini leaves you with 28GB of user accesible space.
Yea but iPad is not the same as android the os is themed highly compared to stock aosp and takes about 4-5gb then there's bloat and android reserves about 2gb to install apps from play store
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So there's no way, huh ?
Install cm that has a lot less bloat
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bogdyro said:
So there's no way, huh ?
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I uninstalled many bloatware/system apps using titanium backup pro and it doesn't increase the size of the storage. I think it has to do with the partitioning of the storage, which 7.2, where all system file is stored, with some allowance so that if you manage to full the storage the phone will not die. I'm just guessing. LOL :angel:
spinninbsod said:
Install cm that has a lot less bloat
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For whatever reason LG decided to set up this phone. The way they did that wont do any. The system partition will stay overly large even if you do use a smaller Rom.
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Hmm thats weird it is lg though not that surprised
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spinninbsod said:
Hmm thats weird it is lg though not that surprised
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Yep. It is annoying. Strange having my old 32 GB galaxy nexus having the full 28 GB but my far newer G2 having only 24.
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First of all: Phone's tottal memmory is 32 000 000 000 bytes which devided by 1024 = 31*250*000 KBytes, which /1024 = 30*517 MBytes, which /1024 = 29.8 GBytes TOTTAL Formated space !
Free Space for user is ~ 24.8 GB
Which means that ALL the partitions in phone's memmory (apart form SDCARD partition) combined are ~ 5 GB
In this 5 GB you have ROM (~2.5 GB), Bootloader, Recovery partition...
But, not all the partitions are full with data, they all have some free space in them, but that free space is not populated to phone tottal free memmory because it is not accessible by the user
Just found this thread about resizing the system partition. Kind of a taboo subject i guess. No one is giving a positive answer.
My very first Android device, the NOOKcolor 8GB, 1st gen, so technically, 'bout 7GB, they reserved 5GB for system and data partitions, left us 2GB for end-user storage.
Yeah, enjoy that.
Good thing was there was a way to re-partition.
For the G2, I haven't heard anyone mentioned about how to.
XxZombiePikachu said:
Yea but iPad is not the same as android the os is themed highly compared to stock aosp and takes about 4-5gb then there's bloat and android reserves about 2gb to install apps from play store
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IOS is different to android. They have different apps and config that contribute to system space of the phone.

smallest sized rom for nexus 4 pls?

hi guys, can u recommed me the smallest size rom to install? im using a 16 gig nexus 4 now all soo huge.
i dotn need all the fancy stuff.
i just need ... the basic stuff
clementandre said:
hi guys, can u recommed me the smallest size rom to install? im using a 16 gig nexus 4 now all soo huge.
i dotn need all the fancy stuff.
i just need ... the basic stuff
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I recomended that install OMNI , a basic rom and very stable for everyday use.
«« Turydios »»
do u have the link for this? ive seen this but cant find the link to this rom!
You should start using USB OTG storage. TitaniumBackup backups are made directly to my flash drive and my nandroids get created directly to flash drive as well. I have a 8gb and still have a lot of space.
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[DEVICE : N⁴] [ROM : SLIMKAT] [KERNEL : FK204-OTG]
[LAUNCHER : NOVA] [CARRIER : T-MOBILE]
[SCREENSHOT : APR.13.2014]
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This is not the right forum for this
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clementandre said:
hi guys, can u recommed me the smallest size rom to install? im using a 16 gig nexus 4 now all soo huge.
i dotn need all the fancy stuff.
i just need ... the basic stuff
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Dude post this particular question in
Nexus 4 General or Q&A - you been here a while it seems, you know the deal
Just an oversight right?
clementandre said:
hi guys, can u recommed me the smallest size rom to install? im using a 16 gig nexus 4 now all soo huge.
i dotn need all the fancy stuff.
i just need ... the basic stuff
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Install cm or a clean aosp rom, these contain not that much unusable stuff (or functions you dont use). But i think you will need to install a different gapps from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
Choose a small one like the mini or micro version
Rom size is irrelevant unless it cant fit in /system, then at that point it wont work on any device.
All android phones (and linux in general) have seperate partitions for user and system, making the rom smaller wont give you any more space.
The only way it would is if you're including your own apks or something in /system.
TheManii said:
Rom size is irrelevant unless it cant fit in /system, then at that point it wont work on any device.
All android phones (and linux in general) have seperate partitions for user and system, making the rom smaller wont give you any more space.
The only way it would is if you're including your own apks or something in /system.
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