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Hello. How are you? I Would like to request ( i dont really know if is possible) the possibility of creating A2SD on cursorsense or a Stock with root 3.05.401.3. Do you think is possible? I Like speed and sense, just missing the A2SD . Thank you wherever is possible or not. I'll await a reply. =) Regards
The feature of a2sd must be supported by kernel,because the script would not be executed if sd is not mounted so we have to make some change to kernel that we could have sd mounted before the a2sd script's exed.
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The feature of a2sd must be supported by kernel,because the script would not be executed if sd is not mounted so we have to make some change to kernel that we could have sd mounted before the a2sd script's exed.
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cursor tried working on this for his rom but i guess there was no possible solution
i hope it is possible though, my phone gets full from hardly any apps
oh. if is on framework, there are issues wich is hard to make work i presume. Hm Well If is possible wouuld be great =). Thank you for replying
Not the framework, the linux kernel. It would need to support one of the ext filesystems (ext2, ext3, ext4). You can check whether it does by executing
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adb shell cat /proc/filesystems
and looking for any of the ext's in the output. If it's not there, one would need to recompile the kernel adding this support.
Hmm although I don't really know why nobody uses yaffs on partitions of the sdcard - anybody know whether it would work? Or make sense?
The kernel does support ext2/3/4 but the problem is that it executes the app2sd script before it mounts the SDcard.
Perhaps the new apps2sd script would solve the issue. (new as in cm5)
yeah I just found http://wiki.theandroidkitchen.com/index.php?title=CursorSense32A_FAQ which kind of explains this. I'm not really content with that explanation though, if it were as simple as tweaking the apps2sd script surely cursor would have implemented it?
EDIT I just looked at the apps2sd script on my current rom (see signature) and as I suspected, it's the script itself that issues the command to mount the sdcard ext partition. So that explanation kinda doesn't make sense to me.
There's an init.rc script that comes with the kernel (boot.img). But the kernel takes a while to load up the SD for some reason and hence the issues.
It's easy to edit but I'm not exactly sure what has to be edited.
On my cousin's phone I just moved the system dalvik-cache to /cache to free up about 20 MB.
Also move market cache to /cache:
Clean it out and symlink to /cache
cd /data/data/com.android.vending
rm -R cache
mkdir /sdcard/cache/market
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Or just move first and then symlink it
You can query the size of a folder using: du -hs
If you really really want Apps2SD someone can look into it. It can be solved by using an alternate kernel (sanpei). But there hasn't been much activity with 1.5 Sense ROMs here on xda.
Alternately you can find plenty of 32A 1.5 Sense ROMs on international forums.
Reference here:
http://gailly.net/android/android-tips.html
Thank you everyone. You guys as always are great. Im sorry to request a 1.5 android with a2sd. Without wanting to consider the devs work as in my opinion all work is really great, i was interested on a simple stable fast rom with sense with a2sd because happens that most wich has sense becomes very slow for me on daily use. The roms i had an excelent experience was villain 3.4 for magic ( cant use because it freezes but great release never had slow issues) its a 2.1 android. Also capyslide 1.6 ( only issues was that wasnt completle stable but o loved it. The rc became very slow compared to the other previous versions )
Sorry to post this opinion. But ive been looking and since most of roms 2.1 android are slow compared to what i need, at least i didnt had the experience i expected, cyanogenmod 5.07 in my opinion at speed has grown alot compared to the 4.2.1.15 version to bad isnt sense where i have a preference ( imagine for example i work as agent of a doctor, make alot of calls and in emergency situations if my phone is slow when i need to call an ambulance, im giving an example of the emergency situations wich might happen ) so prefered to roll back until there was. a more mature rom 2.1.
Thank you for all wich are reading and replying =)
That is the main reason of my request. Thank you
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Thank you everyone. You guys as always are great. Im sorry to request a 1.5 android with a2sd. Without wanting to consider the devs work as in my opinion all work is really great, i was interested on a simple stable fast rom with sense with a2sd because happens that most wich has sense becomes very slow for me on daily use. The roms i had an excelent experience was villain 3.4 for magic ( cant use because it freezes but great release never had slow issues) its a 2.1 android. Also capyslide 1.6 ( only issues was that wasnt completle stable but o loved it. The rc became very slow compared to the other previous versions )
Sorry to post this opinion. But ive been looking and since most of roms 2.1 android are slow compared to what i need, at least i didnt had the experience i expected, cyanogenmod 5.07 in my opinion at speed has grown alot compared to the 4.2.1.15 version to bad isnt sense where i have a preference ( imagine for example i work as agent of a doctor, make alot of calls and in emergency situations if my phone is slow when i need to call an ambulance, im giving an example of the emergency situations wich might happen ) so prefered to roll back until there was. a more mature rom 2.1.
Thank you for all wich are reading and replying =)
That is the main reason of my request. Thank you
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CM4 and CM5 are both mature ROMs. You just have to downgrade your radio.
If you don't want to, use any one of the new radio ROMs with sanpei kernel that have apps2sd support.
I have a HTC Dream running CM5 and I don't see how CM5 can be considered slow at all. If you are really looking for speed, use CM5 with SetCPU to overclock to 576 MHz and you will see a noticable performance increase. rps13 is working on ironing the kinks in the 710 MHz oc so look at that one too.
If you limit your background apps, the ROM really flies. Just flash stock CM5 and bcrook's officially supported kernel port instead of one of the ones you see in these forums until you see more verification amongst the users for stability of those specific ROM blends. Cyanogenmod.com forums is your best bet.
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If you are keen on using a Sense ROM, you should be able to take a apps2sd enabled sanpei .32.9 kernel (boot.img and wlan.ko as usual) and flash it to Cursorsense to get working apps2sd.
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The .27 kernel Cursorsense is based on may have issues mounting the sd card quickly for apps2sd to happen.
Finally there is the option of flashing .9 (or some other version) version of Cursorsense where apps2sd was actually enabled, but you may run into issues.
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xaueious said:
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CM4 and CM5 are both mature ROMs. You just have to downgrade your radio.
If you don't want to, use any one of the new radio ROMs with sanpei kernel that have apps2sd support.
I have a HTC Dream running CM5 and I don't see how CM5 can be considered slow at all. If you are really looking for speed, use CM5 with SetCPU to overclock to 576 MHz and you will see a noticable performance increase. rps13 is working on ironing the kinks in the 710 MHz oc so look at that one too.
If you limit your background apps, the ROM really flies. Just flash stock CM5 and bcrook's officially supported kernel port instead of one of the ones you see in these forums until you see more verification amongst the users for stability of those specific ROM blends. Cyanogenmod.com forums is your best bet.
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If you are keen on using a Sense ROM, you should be able to take a apps2sd enabled sanpei .32.9 kernel (boot.img and wlan.ko as usual) and flash it to Cursorsense to get working apps2sd.
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The .27 kernel Cursorsense is based on may have issues mounting the sd card quickly for apps2sd to happen.
Finally there is the option of flashing .9 (or some other version) version of Cursorsense where apps2sd was actually enabled, but you may run into issues.
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Could you please explain what i should really do in orther to be able to use app2SD on cursor?
I like Cyanogenmod but the thing is i prefer much more the sense. I know i'm a bit dificult with taste but sense i moved to sense i didnt want anything else.
I would be happy to try your suggestion on cursorsense. I need to get the boot img of sanpei. but how exacly would it work? You know wher ei can find a tutorial or something wich would give me a begining to start? Thank you
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I need to make something clear to everyone here...
Apps2SD is definitely a good option for people who need it, but I can't deliver it with this ROM.
The kernel doesn't load the SD card soon enough to handle the automatic Apps2SD script.
Guys, I really want to help you out here, but I don't know if I can.
Maybe another ROM might be best if you need the space... sorry eyegor.
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Instead of automatic how about manualy? For instance a system as Cyanogenmod but. instead of loading the apps automaticaly, we have a loader(wich would work as an emulator or something identical) wich run the apps wich are installed on the SD Card?
To activate this option this loader must work as an app, and we could install apps from it. Wouldnt be this way more stable?
I'm currently using CMYLXGO stock desire rom and i love it but the last few days ive been getting a low memory icon. I look and my phone says 90%. Wierd cause ive deleted many apps and have app2sd as well. I dont know if its me or the rom but I was wondering if anyone can recommend a rom that offers lots of space for apps. For some reason while the icon is up I dont even get emails. If anyone is using app2sd i have a question. When i click on the "phone only" tab it says 21 apps but on the moveable tab it says "no moveable applications found". And on my sd tab it says only 9 apps. How do I move those phone apps to my sd? Maybe that'll clear space.
If your using SD android, (i dont know about nand or ram) Search for toporesize in xda, find [app]windows resize data img maker thread and download the app, then just follow the instructions but backup your img first and don't resize to bigger than 2048mb(2gb).
Then you have larger internal memory with the same rom!
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evo1rs said:
Search for toporesize in xda, find [app]windows resize data img maker thread and download the app, then just follow the instructions but backup your img first and don't resize to bigger than 2048mb(2gb).
Then you have larger internal memory with the same rom!
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What do you mean. Backup your image? Like picture?
Is it an SD build your using?
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Is it an SD build your using?
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I beleive so. Its a zip on my sd card, if thats what you mean
Ok sorry. I just searched for it and it is nand. Different filesystem setups.
I only use SD card builds so I can still use winmo if I like.
Looking at the thread for your build you need partitions or something.
In which case I'd recommend the rom in my signature.
Sorry for the mix up.
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Oh my, I'm loving the look of coredroid but need to research to mke sure it works for tmous and most importantly how to install. Not very savy when it comes to this. Off to read I go...
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Oh my, I'm loving the look of coredroid but need to research to mke sure it works for tmous and most importantly how to install. Not very savy when it comes to this. Off to read I go...
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There's a special version for TMOUS and everything is explained so you cannot make a mistake
Enjoy the power dude!!!!!!!!!!!!
so it seems the instructions are cut and dry. One question it doesnt answer. Should I take all my current rom zips out of my sd?
Unless you absolutely positively need sense, I would recommend and AOSP build like this lightning fast gingerbread build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
sense builds will always tend towards the bloated side. The system partition on the gingerbread build i linked only takes up about 125 mb. vs the 400mb partition that cmylxgo's dhd build takes up
so i went with coredroid and so far so good. I wanna thank you guys for all the suggestions you've provided
Hey all its been about 6 months since I was last here, My HD2 currently runs the old Darkstone SD card build, and I love it, But I know since then allot of other developments have been made, I want to now install a Rom directly to my phone (Nand I believe it is?) But I have looked through the roms section and cant find one that is anything like the old darkstone , If anyone can point me out one that is similar and can be used on the Nand I would greatly appreciate it, Thank you.
If you like it clean than try [27.MAR][CWM] NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.5 [Android2.3.3][Kernel: tytung_r8.3].
A really good Guide how to install NAND ROM you can find here.
Use This..UltimateDroid (Crawlingcity)
I've only had HD2 for a week and I'm a noob, But tried others and this one w/radio rom 2.12.50.02 for battery is the best in my opinion, Very very happy!
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Hey all its been about 6 months since I was last here, My HD2 currently runs the old Darkstone SD card build, and I love it, But I know since then allot of other developments have been made, I want to now install a Rom directly to my phone (Nand I believe it is?) But I have looked through the roms section and cant find one that is anything like the old darkstone , If anyone can point me out one that is similar and can be used on the Nand I would greatly appreciate it, Thank you.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but installing to NAND would limit you to the amount of apps that you can install since not all apps support Moving to SD. Wouldn't you rather run a newer build, like American Android off your SD?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but installing to NAND would limit you to the amount of apps that you can install since not all apps support Moving to SD. Wouldn't you rather run a newer build, like American Android off your SD?
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I'm correcting you, you are wrong!
You can create a partition on your SD which extends your internal memory, All user data is pushed there
Majority of roms come with one of various solutions to extend memory.
Not trying to hijack this thread or anything, but I haven't gone the NAND way just because of that limitation that I believed was there! I AM SO GLAD I WAS WRONG!
I guess my next question is, the maximum size of that partition would be...?
I am currently running American Android off SD, is there anything similar to that for NAND?
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Not trying to hijack this thread or anything, but I haven't gone the NAND way just because of that limitation that I believed was there! I AM SO GLAD I WAS WRONG!
I guess my next question is, the maximum size of that partition would be...?
I am currently running American Android off SD, is there anything similar to that for NAND?
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1GB as far as I know. Thats what is recommended by most devs. To partition all you need to do is go into recovery (Clockworkmod) and use the partition feature.
Apps2SD+ = Apps data is pushed to the partition after install or reboot in some cases I think.
Data2SD/Data2Ext = All user data is stored on partition as internal memory is extended.
data.img = Basicaly same as what data.img does on SD build, ie the .img file is used as internal memory.
(I may not be 100% accurate on the above so if anybody has more detail please add)
PS. You should have done a bit of reading, there has been roms with this functionality for ages.
Ultimate Droid 3.1.1 so good.
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I did plenty of reading, only problem was that I kept playing safe. Right after that reply of yours I flashed HyperDroid GBX 2.3.3 with CWM and boy I couldn't be happier. I also have the SD card fix on. This thing flies!
I will suggest anyone going for NAND to partition to EXT4 through GParted rather than CWM though. Gingerbread is more stable, compatible and faster with EXT4.
Thanks bud!
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How do I flash back to ext3 from ext4? Sorry for the noob question but I'm playing around with loads of roms and keep coming across these little problems.
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How do I flash back to ext3 from ext4? Sorry for the noob question but I'm playing around with loads of roms and keep coming across these little problems.
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I think if u install full_wipe_1.3 u will change in ext3.
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How do I flash back to ext3 from ext4? Sorry for the noob question but I'm playing around with loads of roms and keep coming across these little problems.
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Use wipe data/cache (factory reset ) option in CWM . Make sure you install a rom after that
Just do wipe data from cwm recovery and flash the new rom. If im not wrong you only have to flash ext4 patch for an ext4 rom but not the other way around. Tbh i didnt find any major difference between ext3 and ext4.
Thanks Guys i thought as much but wanted to make sure. No i never noticed any major differences between them but i want to flash Honeysense 4.0 when it's uploaded and it's ext3. Gotta love Honeysense!!! Big ups to Samuel!!!!! Just a few more posts then i can post on the dev area's of the forum. Silly rule!
Haha me too. Got what i think is a bug in tb fusion rom so trying to get my posts up so i can post it in the dev forum. Might give honeysense a go actually while the bug gets fixed.
Honeysense is quite good
but im waiting for the EXT4 version now.. please come out tonight
Yeah the ext4 version should be cool the new rosie is excellent and mattes new swype keyboard he is developing looks to be his best work yet!
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Honeysense HD EXT 4 come out already
A question from me, so if coming from ext 4 you just do a full wipe in CWM (system, data, cache and then factory reset) then install the ext 3 ROM.
But what if your on ext 3 and want to try a ext 4 ROM what is the procedure ?
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A question from me, so if coming from ext 4 you just do a full wipe in CWM (system, data, cache and then factory reset) then install the ext 3 ROM.
But what if your on ext 3 and want to try a ext 4 ROM what is the procedure ?
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If u want to go to ext4 rom, u run first full wipe ext4 1.5 and then the rom.U will find full wipe zip in every ext4 rom in addons.
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If u want to go to ext4 rom, u run first full wipe ext4 1.5 and then the rom.U will find full wipe zip in every ext4 rom in addons.
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Thanks buddy.
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And since there is a thread already, here is my question...
What is ext3 and ext4 ?
What it does?
yeah i'm also curious to know the difference..
After searching google I finally found something!
ext4 - Wikipedia
ext3 - Wikipedia
ext2 - Wikipedia
Is different ways to partition the SD Card but what are the differences exactly and what are the pros or cons for our phone I have no idea, at least not yet
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After searching google I finally found something!
Is different ways to partition the SD Card but what are the differences exactly and what are the pros or cons for our phone I have no idea, at least not yet
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This is not true! This is not concern SD card.
If you use EXT 4 in your phone, for example using rom ARHD 5.1.11 which is build on EXT 4 , your device will work much better, and SD card stay untouch.
So does the ext4 format speed up the usage or not? AND is it noticeable or not?
Because in nearly every update for roms they write speed improvements, but I don't really notice them.
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Tbh i didnt find any major difference between ext3 and ext4.
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Me too, didn't notice better performance or anything.
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So does the ext4 format speed up the usage or not? AND is it noticeable or not?
Because in nearly every update for roms they write speed improvements, but I don't really notice them.
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I think the speed improvements are quite minimal but noticeable, after formating everything to ext4, i noticed a smoother handling.
So why not trying out and test a little bit? It works, dont worry The newest LordMOD UE Kernel for example has many ext4 patches inclusive.
Sry for my bad english =)
Forgot to say: I use CM #108 with LordMOD UE 4.5.1 Kernel and newest Radio, works like a charm
+1 for this thread answered all my ext4 questions in one place
I have a folder from my old ROM with all my apps backed up on titanium. Now when I go create a new ROM where do I put the titanium folder so it will show all my apps?
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I have a folder from my old ROM with all my apps backed up on titanium. Now when I go create a new ROM where do I put the titanium folder so it will show all my apps?
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The TB folder should be on your SD card. Prior to flashing a new ROM you can use the menu in TB to create an update zip file, which is flashable in recovery. When you flash the ROM zip you can also flash the TB zip, which will install TB on your phone without having to download it from the Play store. All you have to do then is do a batch restore of your user apps from TB and you'll be set.
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FinZ28: thanks for reply but somehow I put the TA backup folder from my old ROM in a few of the folders on my phone and it popped up lol But now the problem I am having is with a2sd. It seems that all the apps are going both on my internal space & on the a2sd I created...Why is it doing that? I want all the apps to go to a2sd I created and not internal storage...
Do you know if your new ROM supports a2sd? You might have to find the right package and flash it to gain support for the a2sd partition. Check the OP of the ROM post. Better yet, check TB, and look at the memory readings for all of the partitions listed. If your partition isn't there, then it isn't supported natively.
aarsyl: I am running .500 reloaded ROM & you need to flash DarkTremors a2sd. I first created a parition w/ swap file 0 and 1 gig of space then I flashed ROM .500 reloaded then gapps then DT a2sd. When I go to Titanium I can see the 1 gig partition I created it says SD card (a2sd) and its taking up about 200 MB, however under internal its also taking up 200MB...the whole point of the a2sd is to free up space for internal storage..Why is it taking up space in both internal & the a2sd partition?
That's because it doesn't remove the ENTIRE thing to a2sd,to MY knowledge. I may be wrong, for I haven't dealt with that for a long time.
I suggest that you do a test. Install a few apps from the play store, and see what happens with the two partitions, and also monitor which partition loses more space.
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Well like I said it seems to be taking space on both internal storage and the SD card... I just installed an app and it took 14mb off of SD (a2sd partition I made) & 24MB off internal...What do I need to do to get it to only take space on the a2sd and NOT internal storage?
Bump anyone? I notice in TA sum apps are on the SD card while some are not...How is that when I installed all the apps at the same time?!
Any input appreciated...
Ok...so know one else seems to know the answer to your question. Have you tried a2sd with another rom to see if it behaves the same way? That's the most that I can think of. Preferably a rom that already has it baked in.
Just trying....
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Appreciate the response aarsyl however, what other rom should I try it with? .500 reloaded seems to work the best. Is there anything similar that has everything that ROM offers? Many roms I see around here always have something missing, be it FFC, video, 4g, ect....
Wow...you're asking for a lot. Just kidding...I just haven't tried out Roms for my OG Evo for months...give me until tomorrow, and I will return with an appropriate answer. But FYI, Sense 2.1 roms are definitely your best bet, since the phone was made for it (stock). If you don't prefer Sense, at least stick to GB. There are no ICS roms with everything working, and JB is even worse.
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SOS X+ is a good rom to test, but I need to find a link.
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True unfortunately I dont seem to like sense lol Ive been on .500 Reloaded ever since release.
BUmp anyone?
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BUmp anyone?
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Any gingerbread rom has everything working. Only the ICS/JB rom's have things broken. Jellybread and Thundershock are 2 of the most popular. Emilio Unchained isn't far behind. Mokee if you want a really different feel. Unoffical CM7.1 in Original Development section if you want a stock CM feel that you can customize and make your own without having things you don't want or need.
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Any gingerbread rom has everything working. Only the ICS/JB rom's have things broken. Jellybread and Thundershock are 2 of the most popular. Emilio Unchained isn't far behind. Mokee if you want a really different feel. Unoffical CM7.1 in Original Development section if you want a stock CM feel that you can customize and make your own without having things you don't want or need.
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If you want everything working and a true ICS/jb feel try cyanmobile. Well you have to add the APN to get MMS but everything works. 4g, HDMI out!
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How r any of the ROms mentioned better than .500 reloaded?!
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How r any of the ROms mentioned better than .500 reloaded?!
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.Reloaded is based on 2.3.5 and deck's custom ROM. The other ROMs are based on 2.3.7 and have CM controls. Some app's function differently. Different lock screen controls. etc. Few things like that. Don't get me wrong, I like reloaded, but it could use some updates.
Cyanmobile and MIUI are also... interesting, because they are quite different. As long as you are using the GB version of MIUI, everything will work. They are also 2.3.7 based.
If you like reloaded, stick with it. There is nothing wrong with it, and it's a good, stable rom. The question was, what has everything working. Sense 1.0 ROMs are the best for everything working. If you don't like sense, I was giving options since you already use reloaded.
souleman: what would u recommend as the two best ROMS under 2.3.7 with everything working including hdmi? Just wondering if the ones u mentioned are really better than relaoded or just a different look...
bump soul?