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Hi all,
I pre ordered my 16gb nexus 7 last week.
And I am thinking I will root it as soon as it arrives, but I have the following worries/questions:
If I root and unlock the bootloader, will I still get ota updates?
If I root and unlock the bootloader, is it possible to re-root it and re-lock the bootloader for warranty purposes?
Is the a large chance of bricking it by rooting it? Or is it quite safe now?
Is the any real reason why I shouldn't root it?
Sorry for all these questions, but I am currently using a rooted galaxy s2, and that comes with the bootloader pre-unlocked, so I am not familiar with locked bootloader lol
Thanks in advance for any help
Cheers corey
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Ps,
I also noticed that the are a few methods of rooting the n7, does anyone know which method that installs Cwm permanently is best?
Cheers
Corey
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Yes you will be still able to get OTA updates, though you may will lose root after an OTA. It's only when you begin flashing alternate recoveries, kernels, ROMs etc. will you lose the ability to receive OTAs.
I'm not sure what you mean by re-root again (maybe you mean unroot??). But from the Nexus trend, you will be able to relock the bootloader after unlocking it (though I don't see a point unless you're about to return it). Regarding the unroot thing, all you have to do is just reflash the stock ROM or just remove the su binary and the su management application (SuperSU or Superuser).
It's relatively safe to say that you can root it without bricking your tablet. These days, it's pretty hard to actually brick your device unless you do something absolutely moronic i.e. flash the wrong bootloader.
Well, to answer your question, do you need root? If you don't need it nor do you understand what its purpose is, don't. Some uses include being able to access /system/ to maybe delete bloatware (there shouldn't be any on a Nexus device), some apps may get further functionality e.g. some apps might intentionally auto-turn on your GPS when you've lost your phone etc.
Clockwork recovery is totally separate to root. A recovery is used to flash things e.g. root, ROMs, kernels etc. When CWR is released for the Nexus 7, all you have to do is run "fastboot flash recovery <name of recovery>.img" (well that's what I'd run since I'm using Linux).
Hi,
Yes I did mean unroot lol, I was typing it from my phone lol.
Ok thanks heaps, I will root it as soon as it arrives lol.
And yes I know all about root, I have a galaxy s2 which has been rooted a year, and I spend most of my day flashing mods and roms lol. I just wasn't familiar with locked bootloader.
But you said that if I flash recoveries I won't receive ota updates, so if I flash Cwm recovery, will I not receive ota updates?
Thanks heaps for all your help
Cheers
Corey
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fishingfon said:
Hi,
Yes I did mean unroot lol, I was typing it from my phone lol.
Ok thanks heaps, I will root it as soon as it arrives lol.
And yes I know all about root, I have a galaxy s2 which has been rooted a year, and I spend most of my day flashing mods and roms lol. I just wasn't familiar with locked bootloader.
But you said that if I flash recoveries I won't receive ota updates, so if I flash Cwm recovery, will I not receive ota updates?
Thanks heaps for all your help
Cheers
Corey
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Ahh righteo, a locked bootloader just means you can't flash anything. And yes, you are correct, if you flash any recovery that isn't stock and matches with the build of Android, you will lose the ability to receive OTAs.
No worries .
Can it be rooted from a Mac book?? (My bros not mine lol) I always root my devices ..never had a tablet nor a nexus so just wondering..if I can I'll figure the rest
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armyboy11b said:
Can it be rooted from a Mac book?? (My bros not mine lol) I always root my devices ..never had a tablet nor a nexus so just wondering..if I can I'll figure the rest
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Yep, it can be rooted on all the main OS's.
1.This is guide How to root galaxy Note (N7000) running on ICS (4.0.3/4.0.4) -Dedicate to Newbies
THIS METHOD IS SEEMS RISKY, AS CWM.ZIP CONTAINS BAD STRING AND CAN DAMAGE DEVICE.
THATS WHY DOWNLOAD LINK IS REMOVED AND VIDEO ALSO NO MORE PUBLIC.
Discussion will be made on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
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2.How to root N7000 Running on GB ROM (rootable)
GB ROMs which are not directly rootable have to first downgrade to rootable ROM
OR can flash pre rooted ROM
further guide and discussion will be here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
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3. How to copy/delete/edit/change permission with Root explorer
Since I'm a newbie at this stuff, just wanted to ask if rooting my Note would erase the data stored in my phone memory?
Also, should i make a backup of all the data incase anything goes bad??
P.S - thanks for the tutorial..
Rooting, doesn't erase anything.
But yes it is always advisable to keep backup of your important data, though you may have limited option to backup on unrooted device. some suggestion
Contact - inbuilt import/export or google sync
Msgs - use SMS restore backup appl
Applications - Non root version of My backup application. though you can backup only app not data of appl like game level, credential etc.
Haha
Classic Music Dr...
Thanks for the suggestions.
One last query. Is it necessary to flash another ROM after rooting the phone? If so, could you please suggest me an easy to use ROM and a tutorial on how to flash it would be really helpful!
P.S - I apologize for being such a newbie but this is the first Android phone I'm using!
aurator said:
Thanks for the suggestions.
One last query. Is it necessary to flash another ROM after rooting the phone? If so, could you please suggest me an easy to use ROM and a tutorial on how to flash it would be really helpful!
P.S - I apologize for being such a newbie but this is the first Android phone I'm using!
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In short - No.
No need to flash another ROM once rooted although it's preference. You can happily root your stock ROM and maintain root access which will allow you greater control and of course the ability to run Root only apps.
If you wanted to try out other ROM's, check out the development section, Most ROM's have a video or step by step walkthrough on how to install..
No need to apologise, and if you've not used it already - here's a great thread that should answer a lot of your questions;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774208
i wanted to see the flashing of the CF root kernel and some mods, i get stuck there :silly:
music is appropriate
rraaka said:
i wanted to see the flashing of the CF root kernel and some mods, i get stuck there :silly:
music is appropriate
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Sure when time permit will do it.
Added to my FAQ section Awesome work yet again Dr.Ketan !!!
PS. The background music is hilarious
Video tutorial adde for
How to use root explorer to copy/delete/change permission for system files
Dr. Nice stuff!! thanks for the continous contribution...:victory:
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i wanted to see the flashing of the CF root kernel and some mods, i get stuck there :silly:
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me too , ALL ROMs, kernel are different, most instruction there are no image or video
btw, its very helpfull Dr...
Sure will try to make video for that too.
BTW,For mod flashing, method is same like rooting ICS (first video), just you have to select your mod zip file in plave of superSU busybox installer.zip
Flash custom rom
Hi,
I followed the steps given in the video and was able to root successfully.
Now, Can i directly flash the custom ROMs (for eg. ICS Stunner 1.6.26 which is an ICS ROM) through CWM?
I read a warning that said flashing custom ROMs on ICS kernels can lead to a hard brick and that we need to flash a safe kernel like Abyss Kernel.
Here is a screenshot of my About Phone.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/564347_10150822751627377_2037790532_n.jpg
Sorry for the Noobish question.
Thanks in advance
thanks
thanks for tutorial
Hi
My new note has stock ics 4.0.3 i don't wish to downgrade just obtain root, what is the process to do this, i was going to watch the video but its no longer public.
many thanks
Why it is not public that is also mentioned.
Just.find.second.link on my signature for detail guide.
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dr.ketan said:
Why it is not public that is also mentioned.
Just.find.second.link on my signature for detail guide.
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Sorry i do apologize, i did read it that bit, and did not think to apply that to the video as well.
let me see if i got this right:
i've dl'd notecore v13 standard
got pc odin
reboot into download mode
start pc odin, click pda, and select above kernel, wait for it to finish
reboot phone
start triangle away - is this safe to use, the warning was quite alarming?
thanks
egarding steps, thats are correct
Triangle.away, i didn't get single report of brick using it.
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dr.ketan said:
egarding steps, thats are correct
Triangle.away, i didn't get single report of brick using it.
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thank you very much, i now feel confident to do this and a little more relaxed
thanks given
Hi guys,
This is my first post so go easy. I saw the noob video and yes that's exactly how I feel!
I recently purchased a used unrooted (according to Root Checker) Galaxy S Plus GT-I9001 running Gingerbread 2.3.5 and I've been doing a few hours of research trying to figure out how to upgrade it to ICS.
The most annoying problem I've experienced is problem #5 on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596 (My phone takes forever to get a GPS-fix)
I have no idea whether upgrading the firmware will make a difference but I'd like to try.
I'm following the steps on this tutorial: http://www.theandroidsoul.com/galax...yanogenmod-9-cm9-pretty-good-and-working-rom/
So far so good, I'm just about ready to try flashing it, but then I read that before doing anything I should back up my IMEI, using EFS Pro. But I can't do that because I'd have to root the device first, but I should backup my IMEI before rooting my device ... ???
So:
1. Should I backup my IMEI before upgrading, or should I do something else first?
2. If so, is there a way to do this without rooting? (I doubt it)
3. So doesn't that mean I have to root my device without backing up the IMEI?
I'm confused.
Thanks so much for your insight.
Zingapuro said:
3. So doesn't that mean I have to root my device without backing up the IMEI?
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After you root and also have CWM recovery, you should backup your efs, for i9001 you need to use Odin 4.43 with AriesVe.ops ..read this WIKI http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_Plus/GT-I9001
Friend's Phone help please
xsenman said:
After you root and also have CWM recovery, you should backup your efs, for i9001 you need to use Odin 4.43 with AriesVe.ops ..read this WIKI http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_Plus/GT-I9001
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Heyy My friend from Malaysia recently dropped by a GT-i9000M Galaxy, he asked me to root it but I'm mega confused, I personally Don't want root just to unlock it I've not only searched on this site but on all of Google :| Is there some one that can help me? Main point I need it Unlocked for free. Please help me I feel like such a noob
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Heyy My friend from Malaysia recently dropped by a GT-i9000M Galaxy, he asked me to root it but I'm mega confused, I personally Don't want root just to unlock it I've not only searched on this site but on all of Google :| Is there some one that can help me? Main point I need it Unlocked for free. Please help me I feel like such a noob
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you can use an SGS unlock app from google apps to unlock and UGKG3 rooted & CWM kernel to root a i9000M, look under rooters in My Android Collections
Hey guys, I'm new to rooting (recently switched from iOS) and sort of the whole community. I want to root my i9300 but I want to be as cautious as possible. My question is does my baseband version matter when rooting my factory unlocked S3? I don't think it should but just as a precaution, I want to know everything there is to it. Btw, I have also attached a screen shot of the device info menu, and I was wondering if anybody could confirm that the rooting process go flawlessly without any worries on my device. Thanks.
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Baseband is modem relative to local networks.
It is not firmware version and has no bearing on root.
Please read the faqs and guides first.
[READ THlS FlRST] POST QUESTIONS IN THE Q&A SECTION AND NOT HERE!!!!
As above, you really need to read and understand before you take another step -otherwise you are likely to destroy your phone.
A good tip is to use CF Auto Root to obtain root, which has very little chance of breaking the phone if you follow the instructions exactly. Then backup your efs folder before you do ANYTHING else.
Im sorry for posting blindly. As a side question, would I need to back up the EFS folder if I dont want to flash any custom roms? I just want the cool root apps Thanks again
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always backup efs
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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thehoz said:
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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I think you do not understand how to root if there is no recovery. keep researching. you're a long way from safely rooting your phone.
OP, if your S4 is on the MF3 firmware then look around in the general and q&a sections. there's some material there that will point you in the right direction.
in short, if you are on MF3, you can root only (which i advise against for beginners as there currently is no recovery option). cheers
thehoz said:
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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Why do you want to root your phone when you don't even understand what it is you want to do?
scott14719 said:
Why do you want to root your phone when you don't even understand what it is you want to do?
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My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
And yes, I am on MF3. I had root on the prior os and I had to unroot to get the MF3 update which had features I wanted. I just don't know the proper terms I guess. I don't know what a recovery is. To unroot before, I had the two files I needed to delete. I foget what they are. I am sure you guys know. I used to always have my iOS jailbroken. I didn't need to understand too much about it. I could just follow instructions and jailbreak. It was too easy to unjailbreak.
Last time I rooted, it was easy. The unrooting was nerve-wracking because I couldn't get the update I wanted without it. I've read how to root now... Again I can follow directions. It just wasn't clear that you can't unroot until a recovery is is out there. I thought maybe a recovery was needed if you used a custom rom. I just wanted to use the stock rom and unroot if I wanted to.
Again, I'm not a hacker, just a user that wants more and not a whole lot of time to learn all the in and outs.
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thehoz said:
My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
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I suggest you do a little more research. There is a thread with a method to unroot that multiple people have claimed works with MF3. Of course, you never said what firmware you have...and it does make a difference. But honestly, don't take the advice if you think you don't need it and do what you want Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432876
Try it at your own risk.
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I suggest you do a little more research. There is a thread with a method to unroot that multiple people have claimed works with MF3. Of course, you never said what firmware you have...and it does make a difference. But honestly, don't take the advice if you think you don't need it and do what you want Good luck.
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I appreciate the advice to keep looking. I'll try to find the thread you mention.
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I appreciate the advice to keep looking. I'll try to find the thread you mention.
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I edited my post above to include it.
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I edited my post above to include it.
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Thank you very much!
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thehoz said:
My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
And yes, I am on MF3. I had root on the prior os and I had to unroot to get the MF3 update which had features I wanted. I just don't know the proper terms I guess. I don't know what a recovery is. To unroot before, I had the two files I needed to delete. I foget what they are. I am sure you guys know. I used to always have my iOS jailbroken. I didn't need to understand too much about it. I could just follow instructions and jailbreak. It was too easy to unjailbreak.
Last time I rooted, it was easy. The unrooting was nerve-wracking because I couldn't get the update I wanted without it. I've read how to root now... Again I can follow directions. It just wasn't clear that you can't unroot until a recovery is is out there. I thought maybe a recovery was needed if you used a custom rom. I just wanted to use the stock rom and unroot if I wanted to.
Again, I'm not a hacker, just a user that wants more and not a whole lot of time to learn all the in and outs.
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You were right, recovery is used to flash custom ROM, back up and restore ROM; but there is no recovery for MF3.
If you just want to use Titanium Backup, adblock then root is enough. And you can unroot.
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