Hey there,
I got one of those "smart" cases which send my Nexus 10 to sleep and wake it up once i close/open the front cover.
However i wondered how this really works, is there a sensor within the Nexus 10?
Also , i lately put my Nexus 10 the wrong way round(with the screen still facing me but the lower bottom, where the pogo connector is being up and the camera being down) in the case and closed the front. As expected the Screen didnt shut nor did it wake up when i opened it.
So i guess there is no sensor on that side of the tablet?Is it possible then to harm the hardware inside by the magnet withing the case. I mean when i put it in the wrong way round.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Maxey said:
when i put it in the wrong way round.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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LOL. There is no wrong way! OK. There is. Don't drop it on a hard surface.
There are magnets in your case that trigger the wake up/down of your N10.
the magnetic sensor is right about the left side of the ambient light sensor... try running a fridge magnet there and see the screen go off and on when the magnet is away...
Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul
relli10 said:
Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul
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You can turn this off in settings>My Device>Accessory>S View Cover Automatic Unlock
yabanize said:
You can turn this off in settings>My Device>Accessory>S View Cover Automatic Unlock
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I've tried this, but it doesn't disable the S View mode. Try yourself with a fridge magnet.
Use Elixir from the Play Store.
The S View cover does not use magnetic sensor. It uses proximity sensor.
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Dr.Engineer said:
The S View cover does not use magnetic sensor. It uses proximity sensor.
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You are wrong. It uses magnetic sensor only.
danum said:
Use Elixir from the Play Store.
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cool_sid007 said:
You are wrong. It uses magnetic sensor only.
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Did elixir work?
I to am trying to get that magnet disabled.
At work so I can't try elixir.
There are actually 2magnets.
One by the volume and the other is by the sensors above the screen.
Thanks.
dtr145r said:
Did elixir work?
I to am trying to get that magnet disabled.
At work so I can't try elixir.
There are actually 2magnets.
One by the volume and the other is by the sensors above the screen.
Thanks.
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If you're willing to install Xposed I can make a quick module to disable S-View. However some apps like the phone app might still respond to it as they handle it themselves rather than using the framework. That shouldn't be too annoying though.
Edit: btw this is better suited as a kernel patch to disable the sensor rather than the S-View screen. That might slightly lower consumption and would work better, but for warranty reasons I can see why a kernel patch would be annoying.
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MohammadAG said:
If you're willing to install Xposed I can make a quick module to disable S-View. However some apps like the phone app might still respond to it as they handle it themselves rather than using the framework. That shouldn't be too annoying though.
Edit: btw this is better suited as a kernel patch to disable the sensor rather than the S-View screen. That might slightly lower consumption and would work better, but for warranty reasons I can see why a kernel patch would be annoying.
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Sure I 'll try it out let me know what you need
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Can I ask the opposite question lol!
Is there a way to turn a standard wallet case in to an S-View by installing a magnet somewhere on the flap or something? Is it possible to make it work?
Aitch said:
Can I ask the opposite question lol!
Is there a way to turn a standard wallet case in to an S-View by installing a magnet somewhere on the flap or something? Is it possible to make it work?
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Yes. Get a hold of a magnet, it has to be reasonabley strong, I found that a fridge magnet was not strong enough, and hold it close to the volume down button and move it about a bit and find the optimum position, I actually find the magnet flat against the back or front near vol. Down works best, just be careful of screen.
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relli10 said:
Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul
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dtr145r said:
Sure I 'll try it out let me know what you need
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Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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ok.
getting everything installed now.
im a little worried about it working, im on CM so its not going to show the sview window at all.
ill let you know in a few minutes
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MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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nope its not working.
pm me your email address and ill send you some log cats.
im pretty sure that sensor needs to be disabled. its causing the actual proximity sensor to be disabled which is why its causing me problems.
dtr145r said:
ok.
getting everything installed now.
im a little worried about it working, im on CM so its not going to show the sview window at all.
ill let you know in a few minutes
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nope its not working.
pm me your email address and ill send you some log cats.
im pretty sure that sensor needs to be disabled. its causing the actual proximity sensor to be disabled which is why its causing me problems.
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What exactly do you want to do? CM doesn't have S-View so this shouldn't be needed.
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MohammadAG said:
What exactly do you want to do? CM doesn't have S-View so this shouldn't be needed.
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i bought an s View cover for my phone.
im using cm
i downloaded an app from the play store that mock sview because obviously cm doesnt have it.
the app used to proximity cover to determine if the cover is open or closed.
the app works flawlessly when i use my finger to cover the proximity sensor.
when i use the sview cover it doesnt work.
the sview cover some how disables the proximity sensor. i know this because i have other apps that use the proximity sensor and they dont work either when i use that cover...
dtr145r said:
i bought an s View cover for my phone.
im using cm
i downloaded an app from the play store that mock sview because obviously cm doesnt have it.
the app used to proximity cover to determine if the cover is open or closed.
the app works flawlessly when i use my finger to cover the proximity sensor.
when i use the sview cover it doesnt work.
the sview cover some how disables the proximity sensor. i know this because i have other apps that use the proximity sensor and they dont work either when i use that cover...
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Oh, then your problem is different from the OP's. I suggest contacting the devs so they monitor the magnet rather than the proximity sensor.
My module simply disables S-View on stock TW ROMs.
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MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleoc.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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hi! I also have this strong magnetic field work area problem.i found this topic and tried to install your module.Thank you very much because its working.the s-view window has been disabled.But the problem is the touchscreen is still disabled or not functioning.Is there a solution to this?THANKS!!
MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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Thank you so much, this seems to have solved my issue of my S4 always flashing the S View Cover display.
3ddown said:
hi! I also have this strong magnetic field work area problem.i found this topic and tried to install your module.Thank you very much because its working.the s-view window has been disabled.But the problem is the touchscreen is still disabled or not functioning.Is there a solution to this?THANKS!!
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Hi all !!
Thank you for the great forum!!
I installed the module and the S-view is not shown, but the touch screen is disabled.
I use a magnetic car holder and every time I hang up the phone to it, the S-lock the screen view!
I don't know if it's possible, but it could be a great thing to change the phone's behavior when the magnetic sensor detects a magnetic field, for example, you can choose to put the phone in car mode.
Thank you very much
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uzzos77 said:
Hi all !!
Thank you for the great forum!!
I installed the module and the S-view is not shown, but the touch screen is disabled.
I use a magnetic car holder and every time I hang up the phone to it, the S-lock the screen view!
I don't know if it's possible, but it could be a great thing to change the phone's behavior when the magnetic sensor detects a magnetic field, for example, you can choose to put the phone in car mode.
Thank you very much
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You ever figured out anything on this? I got a magnetic car holder too and it's kinda annoying with the S-View popping up.
It render S-Voice Drive useless.
Hi I am very confused.
I bought 2 different cases for my girls friends Galaxy S4. One is working but does not have the S-window. The other has S-window but does not have sleep and wake function.
My questions is: How does the sleep and wake function been activated on the phone? Is it similar to an iPad where there must be a little magnet on the case to activate the function or is it purely activated by sensors on the Galaxy S4? Or other ways? I noticed the S4 has plenty of new features that uses its internal sensor so I am thinking maybe the sleep and wake function was implemented automatically as long as you get a flip cover case.
Anyone know?
DruidXL said:
Hi I am very confused.
I bought 2 different cases for my girls friends Galaxy S4. One is working but does not have the S-window. The other has S-window but does not have sleep and wake function.
My questions is: How does the sleep and wake function been activated on the phone? Is it similar to an iPad where there must be a little magnet on the case to activate the function or is it purely activated by sensors on the Galaxy S4? Or other ways? I noticed the S4 has plenty of new features that uses its internal sensor so I am thinking maybe the sleep and wake function was implemented automatically as long as you get a flip cover case.
Anyone know?
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Yes sview is activated by magnet. The sensor is close to the volume down button but more at the back of phone than the side.
You need a reasonably strong magnet, I found that a fridge magnet wasn't strong enough. Need stronger one.
P.s. The title of thread isn't quite right should be more like "how is S-view activated"
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Exactly as title says. Anyone else have the official clear view case from Samsung? Does AOD work when your cover is closed? Would be pretty convenient and for some reason Samsung decided not to include this handy feature...
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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NonXtreme said:
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
elpindian said:
Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
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Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
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Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
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You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
elpindian said:
You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
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Because AOD use proximity sensor to detect whether your phone is in the pocket and turn itself off to save battery. Motion sensor can't do that. Also for motion sensor to detect your movement it need to be on all the time, thus massive battery drain.