[Q] Disabling magnetic proximity 'S View' sensor - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul

relli10 said:
Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul
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You can turn this off in settings>My Device>Accessory>S View Cover Automatic Unlock

yabanize said:
You can turn this off in settings>My Device>Accessory>S View Cover Automatic Unlock
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I've tried this, but it doesn't disable the S View mode. Try yourself with a fridge magnet.

Use Elixir from the Play Store.

The S View cover does not use magnetic sensor. It uses proximity sensor.
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Dr.Engineer said:
The S View cover does not use magnetic sensor. It uses proximity sensor.
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You are wrong. It uses magnetic sensor only.

danum said:
Use Elixir from the Play Store.
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cool_sid007 said:
You are wrong. It uses magnetic sensor only.
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Did elixir work?
I to am trying to get that magnet disabled.
At work so I can't try elixir.
There are actually 2magnets.
One by the volume and the other is by the sensors above the screen.
Thanks.

dtr145r said:
Did elixir work?
I to am trying to get that magnet disabled.
At work so I can't try elixir.
There are actually 2magnets.
One by the volume and the other is by the sensors above the screen.
Thanks.
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If you're willing to install Xposed I can make a quick module to disable S-View. However some apps like the phone app might still respond to it as they handle it themselves rather than using the framework. That shouldn't be too annoying though.
Edit: btw this is better suited as a kernel patch to disable the sensor rather than the S-View screen. That might slightly lower consumption and would work better, but for warranty reasons I can see why a kernel patch would be annoying.
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MohammadAG said:
If you're willing to install Xposed I can make a quick module to disable S-View. However some apps like the phone app might still respond to it as they handle it themselves rather than using the framework. That shouldn't be too annoying though.
Edit: btw this is better suited as a kernel patch to disable the sensor rather than the S-View screen. That might slightly lower consumption and would work better, but for warranty reasons I can see why a kernel patch would be annoying.
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Sure I 'll try it out let me know what you need
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Can I ask the opposite question lol!
Is there a way to turn a standard wallet case in to an S-View by installing a magnet somewhere on the flap or something? Is it possible to make it work?

Aitch said:
Can I ask the opposite question lol!
Is there a way to turn a standard wallet case in to an S-View by installing a magnet somewhere on the flap or something? Is it possible to make it work?
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Yes. Get a hold of a magnet, it has to be reasonabley strong, I found that a fridge magnet was not strong enough, and hold it close to the volume down button and move it about a bit and find the optimum position, I actually find the magnet flat against the back or front near vol. Down works best, just be careful of screen.
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relli10 said:
Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul
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dtr145r said:
Sure I 'll try it out let me know what you need
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Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.

MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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ok.
getting everything installed now.
im a little worried about it working, im on CM so its not going to show the sview window at all.
ill let you know in a few minutes
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MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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nope its not working.
pm me your email address and ill send you some log cats.
im pretty sure that sensor needs to be disabled. its causing the actual proximity sensor to be disabled which is why its causing me problems.

dtr145r said:
ok.
getting everything installed now.
im a little worried about it working, im on CM so its not going to show the sview window at all.
ill let you know in a few minutes
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nope its not working.
pm me your email address and ill send you some log cats.
im pretty sure that sensor needs to be disabled. its causing the actual proximity sensor to be disabled which is why its causing me problems.
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What exactly do you want to do? CM doesn't have S-View so this shouldn't be needed.
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MohammadAG said:
What exactly do you want to do? CM doesn't have S-View so this shouldn't be needed.
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i bought an s View cover for my phone.
im using cm
i downloaded an app from the play store that mock sview because obviously cm doesnt have it.
the app used to proximity cover to determine if the cover is open or closed.
the app works flawlessly when i use my finger to cover the proximity sensor.
when i use the sview cover it doesnt work.
the sview cover some how disables the proximity sensor. i know this because i have other apps that use the proximity sensor and they dont work either when i use that cover...

dtr145r said:
i bought an s View cover for my phone.
im using cm
i downloaded an app from the play store that mock sview because obviously cm doesnt have it.
the app used to proximity cover to determine if the cover is open or closed.
the app works flawlessly when i use my finger to cover the proximity sensor.
when i use the sview cover it doesnt work.
the sview cover some how disables the proximity sensor. i know this because i have other apps that use the proximity sensor and they dont work either when i use that cover...
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Oh, then your problem is different from the OP's. I suggest contacting the devs so they monitor the magnet rather than the proximity sensor.
My module simply disables S-View on stock TW ROMs.
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MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleoc.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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hi! I also have this strong magnetic field work area problem.i found this topic and tried to install your module.Thank you very much because its working.the s-view window has been disabled.But the problem is the touchscreen is still disabled or not functioning.Is there a solution to this?THANKS!!

MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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Thank you so much, this seems to have solved my issue of my S4 always flashing the S View Cover display.

3ddown said:
hi! I also have this strong magnetic field work area problem.i found this topic and tried to install your module.Thank you very much because its working.the s-view window has been disabled.But the problem is the touchscreen is still disabled or not functioning.Is there a solution to this?THANKS!!
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Hi all !!
Thank you for the great forum!!
I installed the module and the S-view is not shown, but the touch screen is disabled.
I use a magnetic car holder and every time I hang up the phone to it, the S-lock the screen view!
I don't know if it's possible, but it could be a great thing to change the phone's behavior when the magnetic sensor detects a magnetic field, for example, you can choose to put the phone in car mode.
Thank you very much
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uzzos77 said:
Hi all !!
Thank you for the great forum!!
I installed the module and the S-view is not shown, but the touch screen is disabled.
I use a magnetic car holder and every time I hang up the phone to it, the S-lock the screen view!
I don't know if it's possible, but it could be a great thing to change the phone's behavior when the magnetic sensor detects a magnetic field, for example, you can choose to put the phone in car mode.
Thank you very much
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Samsung Galaxy S4 mini DUOS GT-I9192 - Stock ROM - Android 4.2.2 - I9192UBUAMH2
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You ever figured out anything on this? I got a magnetic car holder too and it's kinda annoying with the S-View popping up.
It render S-Voice Drive useless.

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[Q] faulty sensor

Hi, just bought a cheap iconia a500 with a dent on one corner so obviously been dropped. It works fine however.
Only issue is one of the sensors seems faulty. I installed a custom rom and still same so not the rom at fault.
I only noticed it after installing words with friends. You can shake to shuffle tiles but mine just shuffles em continuously unless turned upside down. Not sure which sensor which sensor it is as rotate works fine.
I guess the drop caused it but is there a way of turning it off?
Don't know how much help this is; but try "sensor list" app to identify which sensor is not working correct.
soul_0830 said:
Don't know how much help this is; but try "sensor list" app to identify which sensor is not working correct.
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Thanks for the pointer but it does not really make it clear which one it is lol.
No devs have any idea?
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[Q] Can the proximity sensor be used to turn off wifi

I was using the smart cover for my Google Nexus 10 for sometime and wondering if the feature can turn off my screen, are there available applications which allow me to program me to do other things like turn off wifi after sometime if cover is closed to conserve battery and back on when the cover if opened. Thanks to anyone with suggestions
That's fairly advanced programming, you'll probably need a custom ROM to be able to do that have a search around on some of the ROM threads and ask the developers if they could help you out
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roysam123 said:
I was using the smart cover for my Google Nexus 10 for sometime and wondering if the feature can turn off my screen, are there available applications which allow me to program me to do other things like turn off wifi after sometime if cover is closed to conserve battery and back on when the cover if opened. Thanks to anyone with suggestions
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I'm pretty sure you can use Tasker for that.
Edit: Never mind, it looks like proximity sensor is not supported yet by Tasker on the Nexus 10.
I would imagine it should be fairly easy to write a program that can do this. I know that I use an emulator for Game Boy Advance that has options to use the proximity sensor for controls (havent used it though), so if something like that is able to read data from the sensor then anyone should be able to. And that app doesnt even require root. I would think though that to put the tablet to sleep would require root access to the command. The one thing I dont know about would be waking the tablet up. I would imagine that the proximity sensor would be disabled when the tablet is in deep sleep, so it may not be able to be used to wake up the tablet. And using an app to always keep the sensor awake may prevent the tablet from ever going into deep sleep.
I think the Nexus 10 does NOT have a proximity sensor...
Arcano said:
I think the Nexus 10 does NOT have a proximity sensor...
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Hmmm, looks like you're right. I downloaded sensor readout app from the play store and it's not registering a proximity sensor.
vogonpoetlaureate said:
Hmmm, looks like you're right. I downloaded sensor readout app from the play store and it's not registering a proximity sensor.
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I think the smart cover used the magnetic field for the wake and sleep function instead of the proximity sensor. It was my mistake in assuming it was a proximity sensor.
So I'm guessing you just need an app to turn off WiFi when the device is put to sleep? Try this, it worked wonders for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801284
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you can simply set the wifi sleep policy to "Always" which will turn off your wifi when you turn off the screen
Arcano said:
I think the Nexus 10 does NOT have a proximity sensor...
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Can anyone confirm that? Because on Google I get lots of hits with the specs for the Nexus 10 including the proximity sensor.
I just want to use Tap Tap App.
ArrowHood said:
Can anyone confirm that? Because on Google I get lots of hits with the specs for the Nexus 10 including the proximity sensor.
I just want to use Tap Tap App.
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See for yourself:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_10_16gb
Straight from the the play store...
SENSORS
Microphone
Accelerometer
Compass
Ambient light
Gyroscope
Barometer
GPS
No prox sensor...

Will S-View work on non-Samsung cases?

Hi! I am trying to find premium s-view case since the original does not stay closed but i wonder how hall sensor works and will it work with other than Samsung original cases. I am thinking about this case http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tridea-Samsung-Galaxy-S4-100-Italian-Standing-View-Cover-S-View-Case-BLUE-/221221049258?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item3381cd53aa ! What do you think and can you recommend other high quality s-view cases? Regards, Stepanooo
I bought a Baseus flip case for $10 and cut a window out for the S-View. Works a treat (i.e., sleeps and wakes phone, displays proper notifications etc). Nice blue case too.
Mykew said:
I bought a Baseus flip case for $10 and cut a window out for the S-View. Works a treat (i.e., sleeps and wakes phone, displays proper notifications etc). Nice blue case too.
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Thanks for reply! Just can t understand how that hall sensor works, because if i cover sensor with hand or try to imitate cover nothing happens... read that it detects magnetic field but then i wonder if something should be built in the case itself... If someone knows please reply... Thanks
stepanooo said:
Thanks for reply! Just can t understand how that hall sensor works, because if i cover sensor with hand or try to imitate cover nothing happens... read that it detects magnetic field but then i wonder if something should be built in the case itself... If someone knows please reply... Thanks
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There has to be a small magnet in the cover for it to work. If the magnet is close to the Hall sensor on the phone, it will switch to the s-view mode.
You can try it yourself by moving a magnet along the left side of the phone until you find the right spot...
in silico said:
There has to be a small magnet in the cover for it to work. If the magnet is close to the Hall sensor on the phone, it will switch to the s-view mode.
You can try it yourself by moving a magnet along the left side of the phone until you find the right spot...
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Unfortunately i don t have magnet with me now but thanks for approving the idea... I just don t understand why noone explains this quite interesting s4 feature... Searched google, forums, youtube - nothing...

No AOD when using Samsung Clear View Flip Case?

Exactly as title says. Anyone else have the official clear view case from Samsung? Does AOD work when your cover is closed? Would be pretty convenient and for some reason Samsung decided not to include this handy feature...
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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NonXtreme said:
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
elpindian said:
Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
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Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
NonXtreme said:
Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
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You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
elpindian said:
You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
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Because AOD use proximity sensor to detect whether your phone is in the pocket and turn itself off to save battery. Motion sensor can't do that. Also for motion sensor to detect your movement it need to be on all the time, thus massive battery drain.

Air Gestures not working

Hey everyone! I am having a big problem. Previously, my air gestures used to work perfectly but now they are not. I've even enabled Quick Glance, air browse etc under settimgs but still I can't use air gestures! :'(
I've tried rebooting too. Is there any fix except for factory reset or flashing firmware?
My device is gti9500 with android lollipop stock rom.
I would suggest downloading sensor test from the play store and checking if the proximity sensor works as intended.
GDReaper said:
I would suggest downloading sensor test from the play store and checking if the proximity sensor works as intended.
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Yep. Proximity sensor is working fine.
munimjaffer said:
Yep. Proximity sensor is working fine.
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Yeah, but the proximity sensor and air gesture sensors are separate. If one works it doesn't mean the other one works.
GDReaper said:
Yeah, but the proximity sensor and air gesture sensors are separate. If one works it doesn't mean the other one works.
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I did as you said. Downloaded app to check proximity sensor and that was working fine, now what's the fix?
munimjaffer said:
I did as you said. Downloaded app to check proximity sensor and that was working fine, now what's the fix?
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Did you read what I said?
The air gesture sensor has nothing to do with the proximity sensor. They are 2 different sensors.
If you want to fix it, re-flash the stock ROM. If that doesn't work, you might have to tear the phone apart and clean the sensor.
GDReaper said:
Did you read what I said?
The air gesture sensor has nothing to do with the proximity sensor. They are 2 different sensors.
If you want to fix it, re-flash the stock ROM. If that doesn't work, you might have to tear the phone apart and clean the sensor.
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Ok
@GDReaper , I've detected the problem. It is hardware related. The problem is that from the top(where there is Samsung logo) the screen is slightly raised upwards. When I press the screen tightly inwards and then try to air browse, it works fine. Is there any way I could bring screen back to its position?
Sorry for little bit of bad English.
munimjaffer said:
@GDReaper , I've detected the problem. It is hardware related. The problem is that from the top(where there is Samsung logo) the screen is slightly raised upwards. When I press the screen tightly inwards and then try to air browse, it works fine. Is there any way I could bring screen back to its position?
Sorry for little bit of bad English.
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Try using a blow dryer to heat up the screen and then put something fairly heavy on the screen to keep it pressed down.
Hopefully the glue should become liquid from heating and harden again with cooling. Otherwise you might have to change the glass.
GDReaper said:
Try using a blow dryer to heat up the screen and then put something fairly heavy on the screen to keep it pressed down.
Hopefully the glue should become liquid from heating and harden again with cooling. Otherwise you might have to change the glass.
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Ohh ok bro

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