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ICS on Nexus S

What are the stages where this is at right now? Fully usable? Still Alpha? I currently have a Galaxy S2 and love it, but it is big and I really want ICS. Is ICS helping with battery life at all? What are people experiencing performance/battery wise? Things like data speeds? Is image quality any better on the device?
Thanks!

Another ICS thread? Ever thought about joining one of the other 10 threads on this subject and actually read what others have been already saying about it.
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The ICS dev threads have hundreds, if not thousands of posts. Makes it hard to find information. I don't currently have the phone so it makes it hard for me.

Real simple is to jump to the end of a ics dev thread and read the posts backwards. You will see the most recent info. In short the rom I am running is very smooth, few things need tinkering with to get them working, no 4g but that is expected with a non nexus 4g source. I will also say that after using a ics rom as a daily driver since last weekend the rest of the world who are waiting on ics for their device will not be disappointed when it finally gets there. As far as the battery life goes I have had the best daily usage out of my nexus as ever, true story.
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My home screen for a taste. Taken with the built in screen shot per google.
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When everyone says 4G, they mean Sprint, right? I have T-Mo so would HSPA+ work?

well there are roms being developed for all variants of the nexus s. But yes I have the nexus s 4g on sprint.
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I'm not sure about hspa+, isn't that just t-mobiles way of saying 4g? Like lte and wimax? If so then I doubt the ability to connect to it works without the official sources being released by google yet.
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There are a few daily use status versions out now IMO
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Tmo 3g and 4g are really the same technology
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My home screen for a taste. Taken with the built in screen shot per google.
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i noticed your wifi and mobile signals aren't full, like the rest of us 3G Nexus S users!

davewpy said:
i noticed your wifi and mobile signals aren't full, like the rest of us 3G Nexus S users!
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Sprint or T-Mo?

Sprints 4g? Idont think so
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Tmo 3g and 4g are really the same technology
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Excuse all the thread police. Apparently some on here have OCD and treat the threads like their personal panty drawr (nice and neat). But to answer your question: ICS is pretty far along on the device, battery is better than ginger, performance has the potential to be better when source drops (right now it's faster sometimes and slower at others), data speeds are about the same, and image is great. In all, the ports we have are daily drivers for MANY, including myself. Although most of the bugs seem to have been ironed out, I can see there is still a lot of potential. Our DEVS are pretty gangster so we will surely see much more progression.

I agree but keep in mind that Ginger was developed fromour phones CPU. Hummingbird. In which why if runs so fluid. Ics is for the what's ever in the galaxy nexus. No other phone will run ics smoother than the gn as no other phone had ever beaten this on Ginger.
My point is that we need source code so we can make a ron with other elements intwined to the framework. Show me how to sign a Tom and I'll. Dev the crap out of it
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I'm using Brainmaster's V2 and it's a daily for sure. I haven't updated because I use A2DP a lot, and the newer versions built off of Koush's rom lose that.

davewpy said:
i noticed your wifi and mobile signals aren't full, like the rest of us 3G Nexus S users!
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So your signal bars are lying?
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Hi guys, any idea when we should receive official update?

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So your signal bars are lying?
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yes most of the roms on ICS for i9020/23 (3G) are lying.
seems like ALL of the 4G Nexus S is working. I found an updated radio image i9020xxki1, but i didn't have the guts to flash it to see if it works.

S4 vs s4 active

Hey guys ive had my s4 since june 1. I wanted the active but it came out a day after my exchange period.. so anyways im meeting a girl today that want to trade her active for my s4 becuase she want the camera and doesnt want the bottom buttons like on the active. So im just wondering if its worth the trade becuase I read I cant flash roms on the active and im a flashaholic. But yet again we can still root and I need the ruggedness. Ive gone through 5 phones since august (paid full price no insurace/replacement crap) so whats your guys' opinion. Yay or nay?
Thanks a bunch,
Kole
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Maybe you could get a nice, heavy duty case on your normal S4 so you can have the ruggedness of the Active? That's what I did with mine. I also did not like the buttons on the active...
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Depends on how cute the girl is and how bad she wants your phone

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Maybe you could get a nice, heavy duty case on your normal S4 so you can have the ruggedness of the Active? That's what I did with mine. I also did not like the buttons on the active...
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Haha I have a prettyy nice incipio case man. And im not sure I kind of like them and if anything ill sell it and get another s4 just wanted your guys' thoughts
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jd1639 said:
Depends on how cute the girl is and how bad she wants your phone
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Haha I met with her earlier to check the phone out and make sure it was working and not stolen and she's actually pretty f*cking cute!
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Kole_Ackerson said:
Haha I met with her earlier to check the phone out and make sure it was working and not stolen and she's actually pretty f*cking cute!
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What firmware is your phone on, if it's mf3 you can't flash anyway. If it's mdl, I wouldn't care how cute she is. Just saying.

My s4 is mdl has been since I got it and right now im just running a stock rooted so im not too stuck on mdl. Plus I can just use notach and use nova
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UPDATE: went through and got the active. I like the weight and until the bootloader is unlocked its not a big deal
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I had gotten the active then the s4 32gb. I just got my daughter the active and I actually like active a little more now that I can side by side them. Plus I work outside and if it starts to rain I won't have to worry about ruining it.
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I got the active today started my 14 treat drive. I'm unsure about this. I can't root. I I'm not sure I could own a phone with out flashing the newest roms..
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JEZZEJAMEZ said:
I got the active today started my 14 treat drive. I'm unsure about this. I can't root. I I'm not sure I could own a phone with out flashing the newest roms..
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You can root just not flash roms atm. Just dowbload notach xposed a couple root apps and it feels as if you almost have a custon rom.
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Kole_Ackerson said:
You can root just not flash roms atm. Just dowbload notach xposed a couple root apps and it feels as if you almost have a custon rom.
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Today I tested both S4 and S4 active, both on the same carrier S4 had 5-11 dB higher signal reception. Meaning there are some places (not very often) that active won't have reception but regular S4 has.
Also, you noted the developer options that you can't put a custom rom too.
Overall, I don't know they come close to each other having these 2 important disadvantages.
But I like the look of blue active better.

Samsung galaxy s4 for nexus 4?

Hello everyone,I been thinking of getting a brand new nexus 4 for my samsung galaxy s4 i9500, my question is what do you think about the nexus 4? Im mean is it worth it?ive never used any of nexus series before, always bought samsung products.
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Flash AOSP on ur S4 and feel the nexus 4. The S4 is the better phone except in build.
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mhoss48 said:
Flash AOSP on ur S4 and feel the nexus 4. The S4 is the better phone except in build.
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Unlike the i9505,no stable AOSP roms for the i9500 ..touch wiz is just pain..

I've got the I9505 and the Nexus 4. In terms of development the Nexus device will always be a step ahead due to being a stock android phone. Crazy amount of roms and kernels. I find the N4 faster and smoother in day to day operation as it optimises the software perfectly. The Galaxy bare in mind has better camera, expandable storage, bigger screen, 1080p not that big a difference, removable battery.
Down to you I'm happy with both devices. But use my Galaxy as a daily driver due to better camera and such.
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nikzDHD said:
I've got the I9505 and the Nexus 4. In terms of development the Nexus device will always be a step ahead due to being a stock android phone. Crazy amount of roms and kernels. I find the N4 faster and smoother in day to day operation as it optimises the software perfectly. The Galaxy bare in mind has better camera, expandable storage, bigger screen, 1080p not that big a difference, removable battery.
Down to you I'm happy with both devices. But use my Galaxy as a daily driver due to better camera and such.
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Sweet, i hear the i9505 is better than the i9500 in terms of the battery and no heating issues, not to mention how many custom roms and kernels available.I would have bought the i9505 if i had any idea about which version is better so now im left the i9500 , im not gonna buy a new s4 since im not planning on spending that much of money but think im going to buy me a nexus 4 and just use the 2 phones for different purposes, just a quick question, black or white nexus?

Black one for sure. It's a sexy device. It just works so well. The speed on custom roms like Rasbean is great. Plus you get the latest software updates to android. The roms are better than the GE of the roms as Google upload a version for developers to tweak so you get many more custom roms based on their sources or CM etc. If it had a better camera and that it'd be my main device Nexus 5 should be great.
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Black one for sure. It's a sexy device. It just works so well. The speed on custom roms like Rasbean is great. Plus you get the latest software updates to android. The roms are better than the GE of the roms as Google upload a version for developers to tweak so you get many more custom roms based on their sources or CM etc. If it had a better camera and that it'd be my main device Nexus 5 should be great.
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Great, black it is then.Thank you my friend for the info.

No problems dude hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
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im4eversmart said:
Great, black it is then.Thank you my friend for the info.
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you will never forget Nexus experience. it is a monster...:good:
i suggest to wait for Nexus 5 my friend....

Hey bud,well yea I been reading about the nexus phone and it seems a pretty good phone.I should try it.Hmmm nexus 5 you say I think its mentioned somewhere on the web, when's google going to release it?
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im4eversmart said:
Hey bud,well yea I been reading about the nexus phone and it seems a pretty good phone.I should try it.Hmmm nexus 5 you say I think its mentioned somewhere on the web, when's google going to release it?
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early October 2013. rumors said that it will be a Motorola phone.

samersh72 said:
early October 2013. rumors said that it will be a Motorola phone.
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Its a must be worth to wait then.

samersh72 said:
early October 2013. rumors said that it will be a Motorola phone.
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Thought it was going to build by LG again, based on the G2 but without the Snapdragon 800 to keep the price lower. Aah well, we`ll see .

gee2012 said:
Thought it was going to build by LG again, based on the G2 but without the Snapdragon 800 to keep the price lower. Aah well, we`ll see .
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Yea , its what i heard too, but oh well motorola is fine also.

I have both. I9505 and nexus 4. Believe me, the nexus 4 is much more enjoyable to use, tiny little things in nexus 4 like navbar, curved screen edge makes using quickcontrols in aosp browser really much better where as in s4 it's harder to trigger thr quickcontrols since the screen is not level with the bezel.
The feel of holding the nexus 4 is much better than s4 with its plastic back, felt sticky and lots of sweat on s4.
And the most awesome in nexus 4 is the vibration feel when you type, it's softer and deep, i really cant explain it and you have to feel it yourself.
Other than three i mention above, galaxy s4 wins hands down.
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adichandra said:
I have both. I9505 and nexus 4. Believe me, the nexus 4 is much more enjoyable to use, tiny little things in nexus 4 like navbar, curved screen edge makes using quickcontrols in aosp browser really much better where as in s4 it's harder to trigger thr quickcontrols since the screen is not level with the bezel.
The feel of holding the nexus 4 is much better than s4 with its plastic back, felt sticky and lots of sweat on s4.
And the most awesome in nexus 4 is the vibration feel when you type, it's softer and deep, i really cant explain it and you have to feel it yourself.
Other than three i mention above, galaxy s4 wins hands down.
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This is exactly right in my experience.
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Thinking but picking this up over note 3

Anyone have a vzw note 3 then pick up a g2?what did you think? How's the reception? I'm getting irritated with dropped data ect.
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I came from a GS3 when they were running the free after instant rebate promo.
The G2 does have a more reliable signal, possibly a little stronger too.
I dont know if it is a big enough reason to switch...it could depend on your location, etc.
It is a fantastic phone though. I dont have the urge to crack flash either with all the UI customization possible witb stock.

Did they patch loki yet? I'm missing aosp and I meant to say I have a note 3. I have a nexus 7 just seems the note and 7 are too close in size. How's battery life?
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Did they patch loki yet? I'm missing aosp and I meant to say I have a note 3. I have a nexus 7 just seems the note and 7 are too close in size. How's battery life?
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If you are willing to trade a Note 3 for an LG G2, contact me.
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I did the opposite where I had the G2 and dumped it for a Note 3. If I'm being completely honest, I think the Note 3 is a better overall phone with more advantages. But of course it depends how you will use your phone.
I owned the G2 for a month, so I think I had a pretty decent sample size to give my opinion.
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I honestly don't think they are even comparable, because of the size and the S Pen.
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It mostly depends on what you want to do with it. I have the original Note on ATT. I decided on the G2 over the N3 because of all the nonsense Samsung is getting into with not allowing us to flash and customize OUR devices. Since you are on Verizon, the vise is even tighter on you. Seems us GSM guys have it a little easier. Good luck with your decision.

Is this another Note 3 vs G2 comparison thread?
Aren't people getting tired of comparison threads getting locked?

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It mostly depends on what you want to do with it. I have the original Note on ATT. I decided on the G2 over the N3 because of all the nonsense Samsung is getting into with not allowing us to flash and customize OUR devices. Since you are on Verizon, the vise is even tighter on you. Seems us GSM guys have it a little easier. Good luck with your decision.
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I don't think you are up to date. The Verizon Note 3 has a bootloader exploit, custom recovery and custom roms already. In short, it's good to go.
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I wouldn't call safe strap an bootloader exploit as much as a work around. Still no way to allow custom kernels
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Something is better then nothing tho
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This phone SUCKS!!!

I went from a moto razr on Verizon to a brand new S4 on ATT and boy this S4 freaking sucks.. first off its not very fast at all it doesn't seem much faster than my modded razr and att locked it down so much it's pretty much useless...lame
Just venting
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didn't bother to research the phone before buying it?

Flash a custom ROM. The stock touchwiz is so overbloated with crap that you won't get the best experience. I always flash my new phones right away and that's how I get the best speeds out of them.
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No I researched it and mf3 came out the day I bought it so it got locked. I have SS installed and yes there are some rom options but all in all I think the phone sucks. The screen is dim, the software is bloated and half the features are cool but I never use them. I mean it's a cool phone but it just seems slow and buggy for a major flagship but then again they all are kinda buggy.
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mattfox27 said:
No I researched it and mf3 came out the day I bought it so it got locked. I have SS installed and yes there are some rom options but all in all I think the phone sucks. The screen is dim, the software is bloated and half the features are cool but I never use them. I mean it's a cool phone but it just seems slow and buggy for a major flagship but then again they all are kinda buggy.
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Mine is fine. No lag. If you don't like it send it here and buy iPhone
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I'll trade you straight up. I hate my razor. It seems slow to me, and rough around the edges. I haven't changed the blade recently though, so that could be the problem...
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I'll trade you straight up. I hate my razor. It seems slow to me, and rough around the edges. I haven't changed the blade recently though, so that could be the problem...
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I agree. Prior to the S4 I had a Razr Maxx. The only thing I miss is the battery life. Other than that the S4 blows the Razr out of the water. Of course, I did turn off animations, a known cause of lag. And as far as being locked down, so was the Razr. It also had a locked bootloader.

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