I looked everywhere and didnt find a clear answer...
If i change the official rom from my S5 that my carrier instaled for the official rom unbranded will trip knox?
I'm not talking about root....i just want to remove all the crap that carriers put into the roms..
Tks!
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flbenini said:
I looked everywhere and didnt find a clear answer...
If i change the official rom from my S5 that my carrier instaled for the official rom unbranded will trip knox?
I'm not talking about root....i just want to remove all the crap that carriers put into the roms..
Tks!
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change of rom usually needs odin or a custom recovery. so yes, it will trip knox.
exge said:
change of rom usually needs odin or a custom recovery. so yes, it will trip knox.
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Yeah, im gonna use odin, but not a custom recovery...but as u said, if its gonna trip knox im gonna think if im gonna do it...
Thank you!
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If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
anybody can help ?
syedej123 said:
If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
anybody can help ?
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I just wanted to ask the exact same question...
But in my case it's for the I9505.
I still have the XXUBMGA Official Stock Rom with root. No KNOX bootloader, no custom rom.
I do, however want the latest Jellybean but I don't like that KNOX thing.
syedej123 said:
If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
anybody can help ?
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I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
dinci5 said:
I just wanted to ask the exact same question...
But in my case it's for the I9505.
I still have the XXUBMGA Official Stock Rom with root. No KNOX bootloader, no custom rom.
I do, however want the latest Jellybean but I don't like that KNOX thing.
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Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
Lennyz1988 said:
I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
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Thank you !
Lennyz1988 said:
I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
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Thank you...
So you saying that the costum roms don't have the KNOX bootloader?
Honestly, I didn't really follow up on everything regarding KNOX as I don't have that much time anymore (work, wife, children).
I see that there is a new Omega rom based on the latest firmware. Perhaps I should check that one out.
Now I'm going to do some more research regarding this.
Thanks again for your time.
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Thank you...
So you saying that the costum roms don't have the KNOX bootloader?
Honestly, I didn't really follow up on everything regarding KNOX as I don't have that much time anymore (work, wife, children).
I see that there is a new Omega rom based on the latest firmware. Perhaps I should check that one out.
Now I'm going to do some more research regarding this.
Thanks again for your time.
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Only the official firmwares have the bootloader. Just stay away from official firmwares if you want to root/flash different roms and you will be fine.
But it can never hurt to read more about Knox
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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no it wont
markslo112 said:
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
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Tnx for the tip. Already tried that 2 times. No luck
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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it won't trip Knox, i tried it several times as long as they are official roms
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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long as they are official samsung roms you be ok....
I reinstalled my firmware and I can confirm that it indeed won't trip Knox.
As it might be useful I also want to share that updating using my Mac (with VMWare for Windows) gave me a lot of troubles. After using a native Windows laptop the update went fine.
Too bad it didn't solve my problem. Going back to the store to claim my warranty.
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no it wont
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So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
Medical HRH said:
So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
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You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
ultramag69 said:
You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
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I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
Medical HRH said:
I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
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You have to be rooted to flash the custom roms provided here and that will mostly be thru recovery. It will surely trip knox. To flash stock roms from sammobile you don't need root. That can be done thru odin.
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I would suggest however, if you are network locked to unlock 1st... If you need to flash a separate modem afterwards this can trip Knox as you aren't really using a "Stock rom"...
Also make sure re-activation lock is OFF.... If you go to Kitkat and you don't have a KK rom yet you are stuck with a softbricked phone until you do get the KK rom... You can't go back to JB after flashing KK rom due to a new bootloader...
Hi,
I have two questions - hope someone can assist:
1.Do you know a customized ROM with working KNOX?
2. If I will flash Samsung's original ROM, will I have a working KNOX? What about the flag?
Thanks.
wireless.tech.expert said:
Hi,
I have two questions - hope someone can assist:
1.Do you know a customized ROM with working KNOX?
2. If I will flash Samsung's original ROM, will I have a working KNOX? What about the flag?
Thanks.
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I believe you can still use knox even if the flag is 0x1. What just that means is that the container is not as secure and companies who allow BYOD will not certify it for use in their company. Most custom rom I've come across doesn't have knox.
Thanks.
So - flashing Samsung ROM with ODIN will flag 0x1?
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Thanks.
So - flashing Samsung ROM with ODIN will flag 0x1?
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Not really unless knox is already 0x1.
The phone is unrooted.
Sorry for asking again - if I understood well, flashing my unrooted phone with Samsung ROM will leave the phone with warranty (cleared flag)?
Thanks again.
wireless.tech.expert said:
The phone is unrooted.
Sorry for asking again - if I understood well, flashing my unrooted phone with Samsung ROM will leave the phone with warranty (cleared flag)?
Thanks again.
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Doesn't your phone already have Samsung rom or you are trying to update to 4.4.2?
I updated to 4.4.2 (OTA) but have a lot of problems so I want to go back to 4,3.
wireless.tech.expert said:
I updated to 4.4.2 (OTA) but have a lot of problems so I want to go back to 4,3.
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I'm afraid it's not possible to downgrade to 4.3 once you upgrade to 4.4.2 ( for now ). Only the N900W8 can go back and forth between 4.3 and 4.4.2.
Ohhh. Very bad.
Any case - thank you for your assistance.
wireless.tech.expert said:
Ohhh. Very bad.
Any case - thank you for your assistance.
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You're welcome :good:
Hi guys,
I would like to know if tippink knox takes place when you flash an official rom with odin.
Thank you
subfire91 said:
Hi guys,
I would like to know if tippink knox takes place when you flash an official rom with odin.
Thank you
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When you flash official Samsung Rom then nothing happens, only when you Flash a Custom Rom/TWRP or when you planning to Root then you will trip Knox.
Is there a stock rom out there, where everything is worling. Like samsung health and such.
and with stock, i mean like. Just like to boot the phone for the first time.
Shuuin said:
and with stock, i mean like. Just like to boot the phone for the first time.
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Sorry, I don´t get it. When you boot up an unmodified StockRom everything is working out of the box. Do you mean a Custom Rom based on stock with SamsungPay etc. working? Please elaborate.
you want to sell the phone and have already tripped knox?
if so, the answer is no. s-health, samsung pay etc all require knox 0x0 to work on an unmodified rom. i had the same problem.
Marvinho+ said:
Sorry, I don´t get it. When you boot up an unmodified StockRom everything is working out of the box. Do you mean a Custom Rom based on stock with SamsungPay etc. working? Please elaborate.
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Yes, i'm going to sell this to my brother and he do not care about the know thingy. But he wants stock rom
Shuuin said:
Yes, i'm going to sell this to my brother and he do not care about the know thingy. But he wants stock rom
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If knox is tripped you won't be able to use Samsung Health, Samsung Pay, Secure Folder etc. even if you flash a stock firmware image.
If you flash a custom rom the device will not be able receive OTA updates.
Unfortunately there aren't any fixes for tripping KNOX.
Sjant said:
If knox is tripped you won't be able to use Samsung Health, Samsung Pay, Secure Folder etc. even if you flash a stock firmware image.
If you flash a custom rom the device will not be able receive OTA updates.
Unfortunately there aren't any fixes for tripping KNOX.
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hmm, then a stock like rom would be the thing to go with?
Shuuin said:
hmm, then a stock like rom would be the thing to go with?
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You could flash an official Samsung Rom and get automatic OTA Updates, or flash a custom Stock Rom (Batman Rom, Renovate Ice etc.) and get some extra features, but your brother would have to update manually.
In both cases everything knox related will not work.
Flashing a offcial Rom via Odin is probably the easiest solution.