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Look how fast that interface is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAE_zKAtMvg
The problem is, thats not just launcher pro its had the modaco RAM hack to move data to NAND. To do that you need root, and when the memory fills up the phone crashes.
If only Samsung could sort this properly in an update this phone would be tops. This whole lag issue is putting me of upgrading from my desire . I really want this phone but there really shouldn't be this issue
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And what clock/weather widget was used on the phone?
mark99uk said:
The problem is, thats not just launcher pro its had the modaco RAM hack to move data to NAND. To do that you need root, and when the memory fills up the phone crashes.
If only Samsung could sort this properly in an update this phone would be tops. This whole lag issue is putting me of upgrading from my desire . I really want this phone but there really shouldn't be this issue
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Yes there is one hidden thing here: If you have lots of heavy programs like some games, some navigation progs, google earth, you must keep those heavy programs in the old location. I did exactly this - moved to NAND everything except Google Earth, some Gameloft games and navigation. So now I have really fast phone, all my programs, and there is still plenty of space on NAND memory.
And it is just standart/stock XXJF3 firmware btw
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Its from the market: weather widgets (yr.no)
What exactly is done to optimize Launcher Pro? Seems to me like the OS got optimized and Launcher Pro is just taking a ride on that performance gain.
This smells like a bull**** ad for Launcher Pro. Does it perform any worse running the vanilla home screen? I seriously doubt it. I even doubt the performance difference is very apparent comparing to TouchWiz.
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What exactly is done to optimize Launcher Pro? Seems to me like the OS got optimized and Launcher Pro is just taking a ride on that performance gain.
This smells like a bull**** ad for Launcher Pro. Does it perform any worse running the vanilla home screen? I seriously doubt it. I even doubt the performance difference is very apparent comparing to TouchWiz.
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Thats my video, but not my topic - and the name of the topic is a bit wrong Actually you are partly right - speed increase came from apps data on another partition and memory settings, however Launcher Pro performs faster than TW Launcher even with this optimizations. And I don't see any point in advertising Launcher Pro since its completely free - and even without ads as I can see.
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Thats my video, but not my topic - and the name of the topic is a bit wrong Actually you are partly right - speed increase came from apps data on another partition and memory settings, however Launcher Pro performs faster than TW Launcher even with this optimizations. And I don't see any point in advertising Launcher Pro since its completely free - and even without ads as I can see.
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Ofcourse there's a point in advertising free stuff. It sets the bars higher for the commercial stuff.
I don't see how a launcher can start apps faster than another? The "performance difference" I noticed when comparing Launcher Pro to TouchWiz seemed to be the transitions, not the actual loading of apps. While it adds a slight delay, it has nothing to do with performance. TW is a "smoother" experience than Launcher Pro, which is what I like about it (and which is also why I forgive it for looking way too much like iOS).
Would be interesting (but the time needed puts me off the idea ) to make a true comparison of the huge amount of alternative home screens available.
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Yes there is one hidden thing here: If you have lots of heavy programs like some games, some navigation progs, google earth, you must keep those heavy programs in the old location. I did exactly this - moved to NAND everything except Google Earth, some Gameloft games and navigation. So now I have really fast phone, all my programs, and there is still plenty of space on NAND memory.
And it is just standart/stock XXJF3 firmware btw
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Could you post the steps for this?
The posts about this at Modaco are getting confused, with everyone sharing is way to do it.
I've done this with all apps, but without any games or major apps.
I think you have the best solution for this, just moving the most common apps to NAND.
Thats awesome!
I too would love to know the step by step for this...
Am i to assume with only the common apps moved the 130mb cap causing the phone to crash will never be reached? or?
OrionTC said:
Thats awesome!
I too would love to know the step by step for this...
Am i to assume with only the common apps moved the 130mb cap causing the phone to crash will never be reached? or?
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I posted on the MoDaCo forum on how to do this for Google Earth, it assumes that you followed all of Paul's instructions in the thread (the original data is backed up to data.bak) and that you are familiar with using adb.
adb shell
su
You can check the amount of space utilised by your applications in the /data/data directory by doing the following:
cd /data/data
du -d1
To move Google Earth out of the way
rm -R /data/data/com.google.earth
ln -s /data/data.bak/com.google.earth /data/data/com.google.earth
Disclaimer: If you are uncomfortable doing any of this, don't do it!
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I posted on the MoDaCo forum on how to do this for Google Earth, it assumes that you followed all of Paul's instructions in the thread (the original data is backed up to data.bak) and that you are familiar with using adb.
adb shell
su
You can check the amount of space utilised by your applications in the /data/data directory by doing the following:
cd /data/data
du -d1
To move Google Earth out of the way
rm -R /data/data/com.google.earth
ln -s /data/data.bak/com.google.earth /data/data/com.google.earth
Disclaimer: If you are uncomfortable doing any of this, don't do it!
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Yeah probably best to wait for this to be incorporated into a ROM build or something. Not very familiar with linux commands if anything went wrong id be clueless.
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Yeah probably best to wait for this to be incorporated into a ROM build or something. Not very familiar with linux commands if anything went wrong id be clueless.
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I suggest, if you are not comfortable with these commands, just don't do it! Just root the phone and use MinFreeMem from market with aggressive preset, it will be quite enough speed!
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Ofcourse there's a point in advertising free stuff. It sets the bars higher for the commercial stuff.
I don't see how a launcher can start apps faster than another? The "performance difference" I noticed when comparing Launcher Pro to TouchWiz seemed to be the transitions, not the actual loading of apps. While it adds a slight delay, it has nothing to do with performance. TW is a "smoother" experience than Launcher Pro, which is what I like about it (and which is also why I forgive it for looking way too much like iOS).
Would be interesting (but the time needed puts me off the idea ) to make a true comparison of the huge amount of alternative home screens available.
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I see that exiting from apps to home-screen is faster with LauncherPro, than with TWLauncher, thats why I prefer LauncherPro.
Did you noticed any differences in battery life?
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Did you noticed any differences in battery life?
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Looks to be same as before
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Yes there is one hidden thing here: If you have lots of heavy programs like some games, some navigation progs, google earth, you must keep those heavy programs in the old location. I did exactly this - moved to NAND everything except Google Earth, some Gameloft games and navigation. So now I have really fast phone, all my programs, and there is still plenty of space on NAND memory.
And it is just standart/stock XXJF3 firmware btw
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Quick question: I am assuming that if you install something big, say Google Earth AFTER you have done Paul's mod, you will then have to move it from dbdata/data to data/data.bak and link it to /data/data from there. As it will go by default to dbdata. Correct?
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I suggest, if you are not comfortable with these commands, just don't do it! Just root the phone and use MinFreeMem from market with aggressive preset, it will be quite enough speed!
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Hi There,
Wasn't able to find MinFreeMem in Android Market - do you have any tips for me to find it?
Regards,
giantroxx
minfreemem does not work in galaxy anyway.. it does not reset it at reboot. recommend you get autokill it does the same thing and does work at reboot.
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minfreemem does not work in galaxy anyway.. it does not reset it at reboot. recommend you get autokill it does the same thing and does work at reboot.
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Yeah that's true I start it manually after reboot. I think there are other programs that do same but work automatically after reboot.
Guys I just factory reset my note 10.1 2014...it was very laggy after reset but within minutes of usage it became extremely fast...no need to root and remove any bloatware .even s note app became fast and writing is very responsive...although reseting was a pain in ass..backing up bla bla....but it really is worthy....I just removed widgets from my home screen...there is no need to install any third party launcher...touchwiz itself is very responsive now..hope it help you guys..trust me..it really works...I m on mk1
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I mainly rooted because you can use multi screen and the pen window with any app and as many apps as you like. Also bloat ware takes space so nice to free up the space if I don't use it
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I think when people say removing bloat speeds up their systems is the just the placebo effect. In most cases bloatware has no impact on performance, where is does, it can be disabled. An example is this is Story Album, which can run in background trying to put together an album. But if you disable the app, it doesn't do that. Removing bloatware also doesn't add usable space in most cases since bloatware is typically located in the system partition. Unless you also resize the partition, which users typically even know how to do, the freed up space is still not usable.
Just nice to uni stall apps you never use and never will use
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I also found my magazine used battery and was always using cpu in the background. I froze my magazine and just use the flip board app saving battery and cpu
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No i just disabled some of the features like the eye tracking stuff, didn't actually remove them. Runs buttery smooth for me.
i installed nova launcher and set the window animation / transition / animator duration scales to off - and now i have no lag - i usually root all my android devices with custom rom and kernel but because there are not any for this tablet - i haven't even bothered rooted it - but if you change the launcher and set the scales to off there is no lag at all - and yes disable the eye tracking etc. stuff
Not necessary but recommended, at least turn off what's not really needed.
I've rooted to add more apps to multi window which is a great feature.
I have owned 3 samsung tablets in succesion and everytime I disabled apps it has speed up the device a bit. Not that there was lag before it just felt like new after debloating.
I've actually been on a "no-root November" experiment since the Note 2014 and S4 aren't root-friendly. TBH aside from having Touchwiz I've noticed no real impact.
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Guys I just factory reset my note 10.1 2014...it was very laggy after reset but within minutes of usage it became extremely fast...no need to root and remove any bloatware .even s note app became fast and writing is very responsive...although reseting was a pain in ass..backing up bla bla....but it really is worthy....I just removed widgets from my home screen...there is no need to install any third party launcher...touchwiz itself is very responsive now..hope it help you guys..trust me..it really works...I m on mk1
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May i ask what your update procedure was?
Some of Samsung's default programs really do suck balls. Their stupid index service caused infinite boot reloops because it takes forever to scan large pdf's. My Magazine has also gone haywire on me many times.
This is all stuff that requires a software update but none has come. Samsung tries to make powerful bloat but the tradeoff is that you get crap like an index service that gets stuck looping and sets your CPU to 100% and bleeds your battery dry in an hour.
Thanks but no thanks. I am waiting until a few months before voiding my warranty (or hopefully not and someone finds a way around knox).
What update procedure are you asking about...I never rooted..I got three updates out of the box..
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Just remove the samsung widgets from the homescreens and it flies.
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I sleep better at night knowing I disabled Knox on my tablet. So it was emotionally necessary for me.
I rooted so I could have virtual buttons and more control over my tablet. I went from wanting to break the tablet in half to loving it because of rooting. No regrets.
it is up to you if u dont use the bloatware u can remove it
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it is up to you if u dont use the bloatware u can remove it
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But the speed-up effect is mostly a placebo. Also the effect on the battery will be insignificant. At least the data I check on my Note. So, I would say that this is not necessary.
And not everything Samsung put on the device is bloatware.
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But the speed-up effect is mostly a placebo. Also the effect on the battery will be insignificant. At least the data I check on my Note. So, I would say that this is not necessary.
And not everything Samsung put on the device is bloatware.
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i see your point but it is better to remove it if u dont use it i have a SGS4 LTE and i love to remove the bloatware because now i have a faster phone and a longer battery life than the Stock ROM with the bloatware
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...and i love to remove the bloatware because now i have a faster phone and a longer battery life than the Stock ROM with the bloatware
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When someone has this expression then I already agree to remove it. But I still believe that removing the bloatware didn't make the tablet faster or the battery cycle longer.
But I am also sure that many people with bloatware many system functions they don't use and here you can most of them disable without removing anything.
So, when the question is if it is necessary to remove then my answer is still: Surely not.
PS. Its for me like the usage of all this task managers to kill processes. I mean we didn't live any longer in the 80ies and nobody will be manually better then Android in resource management. But still many Android users believe in the HOX that this fast their devices.
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When someone has this expression then I already agree to remove it. But I still believe that removing the bloatware didn't make the tablet faster or the battery cycle longer.
But I am also sure that many people with bloatware many system functions they don't use and here you can most of them disable without removing anything.
So, when the question is if it is necessary to remove then my answer is still: Surely not.
PS. Its for me like the usage of all this task managers to kill processes. I mean we didn't live any longer in the 80ies and nobody will be manually better then Android in resource management. But still many Android users believe in the HOX that this fast their devices.
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Rubbish, rooting makes a bug difference
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Rubbish, rooting makes a bug difference
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So, so and wish difference?
I mean when you here flame then you should also have arguments. And maybe you should quiet down a little bit because then you would see that rooting is something complete different then removing bloatware.
Which is your favorite ROM and why?
Should make a poll with the most popular ROMs listed as an option, but I'll start.
Stock + Root - I really don't like installing custom ROMs on devices that don't need them. My tablet has full functionality at good speed with stock.
Also, ART
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Should make a poll with the most popular ROMs listed as an option, but I'll start.
Stock + Root - I really don't like installing custom ROMs on devices that don't need them. My tablet has full functionality at good speed with stock.
Also, ART
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I'm vaguely familiar with ART. How does it compare to Dalvik?
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I'm vaguely familiar with ART. How does it compare to Dalvik?
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Well, in terms of raw speed, it definitely seems snappier that dalvik. However, it takes longer to install APKs and every time you clear your cache be willing to wait for a while for it to re-"compile" your apps.
But using it depends on your apps - most of mine work with ART, so I use it. I know some apps like Whatsapp don't work with ART yet, so if you know your apps don't work don't bother to try it - you'll just get a bunch of force closes.
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Well, in terms of raw speed, it definitely seems snappier that dalvik. However, it takes longer to install APKs and every time you clear your cache be willing to wait for a while for it to re-"compile" your apps.
But using it depends on your apps - most of mine work with ART, so I use it. I know some apps like Whatsapp don't work with ART yet, so if you know your apps don't work don't bother to try it - you'll just get a bunch of force closes.
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I haven't had a tablet since my TF700T which I returned after a few days because it L-A-G-G-E-D like nothing I have ever seen before.
I don't even know what apps to get besides the ones I have on my phone, so I'm sure ART won't be an issue.
I always install a ROM on my stuff because I like the extra customization I get, especially when it comes to the lock screen. Also, since I'm not a developer and don't understand that much about development, I trust that some of the ROMs allow snappier use and bug fixes from original Android. For instance, I have been reading everywhere that 4.4 is having some serious issues. I would hope these are fixed with a dedicated developer working on a custom ROM.
Hi, I'm afraid we don't allow threads that encourage comparisons between ROMs. It tends to cause flaming and disagreements, also its unfair to the devs that put the work in.
ROMs tend to react differently depending on the individual set up so its bet to try a few and see what's best for you.
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Regards
Chris
I have just activated developer mode on my S5 and have changed to ART runtime to give it a test drive. I'm at the "Android is upgrading..." screen and it says "Optimizing app 103 of 379". Let's see what happens. Apparently ART is supposed to have a faster and more battery efficient runtime than the Dalvik runtime.
Well, after booting up for the first time applications that I had transferred to my MicroSD card have loaded tremendously faster than before. Also, applications are opening up way faster than before. I noticed than my RAM usage is way down than when I was using Dalvik runtime (down to 1.37 from my previous 1.76 or so).
I will keep on using ART all of this next week and report any bugs I come across during this time. I've yet to find out if this really saves battery like people are claiming out there.
I like ART, but it's a little funky
I really like ART, but for me the two biggest drawbacks are:
Xposed Framework does not work.
Some apps crash on ART. Most notably, Threes which is one of my favorite games, and the camera seemed to crash sometimes on ART.
I can live with #2, but #1 is a major pain point. I'm looking forward to getting Lollipop on this phone, which will make ART standard (and more stable than its Jellybean implementation). I know Xposed will probably go away, but I think I can manage.
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I really like ART, but for me the two biggest drawbacks are:
Xposed Framework does not work.
Some apps crash on ART. Most notably, Threes which is one of my favorite games, and the camera seemed to crash sometimes on ART.
I can live with #2, but #1 is a major pain point. I'm looking forward to getting Lollipop on this phone, which will make ART standard (and more stable than its Jellybean implementation). I know Xposed will probably go away, but I think I can manage.
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yes, the camera will crash occasionally, which for me is really a deal breaker. I've used it several times, but can't stick with it because of the wonkiness of app crashes. When using it, I did not have any visible speed differences from dalvik, so meh. 5.0 will fix all that.
Don't see the point of this thread when it is a known fact ART is better and more efficient. Google is your friend, there are multiple discussions on this.
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Don't see the point of this thread when it is a known fact ART is better and more efficient. Google is your friend, there are multiple discussions on this.
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It is a known fact that you can either participate or not participate at all! So please spare us your whining. If you don't see the point then leave the thread and move on to something of interest to you.
This is a forum where you can start a thread on basically anything of interest to people that have a mobile device and want to talk about development, ROMs, or just have a general discussion.
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It is a known fact that you can either participate or not participate at all! So please spare us your whining. If you don't see the point then leave the thread and move on to something of interest to you.
This is a forum where you can start a thread on basically anything of interest to people that have a mobile device and want to talk about development, ROMs, or just have a general discussion.
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You should read the rules kiddo. You can't just "start a thread on basically anything"... nahh, not how it works.
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There many of these threads already in existence...... not sure why we need another........ here Search is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=art vs dalvik s5
That Said...... to avoid further incitement..........
.............THREAD IS CLOSED............
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I don't know if it's well known, but I found the overall speed/performance to be a little slow. I'm talking about opening apps, and loading them, before they can be used. A simple thing I did was turn off all Moto stuff (Assist, Actions, Display). Not that the phone was bad as it's a very smooth overall device, but after turning off Moto, it really made a difference. All apps open and load much faster, and the UI seems snappier too. I know this may not be good for those who use Moto, but for me the trade off of turning it off is better than the little times I used it. Just thought I'd share in case there are people who are looking to gain a bit of speed.
Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
Sent from my MotoE2(4G-LTE)
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Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
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thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
On the topic of improving performance, is there a list of bloatware/apps that are safe to freeze/remove?
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On the topic of improving performance, is there a list of bloatware/apps that are safe to freeze/remove?
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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Verizon carries this phone. I just disabled whatever I don't use and my phone is fine.
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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Ah sorry, I meant more than just preinstalled apps. I meant background apps and services as well.
I use DroidWall to deny network access to everything except the stuff I need (gmail/web browser/weather widget), and looking at firewall logs I see a ton of moto and google-related services trying to connect to the network even if I don't use them. (DW groups them all into a few "app" entries, so I haven't had time to go through and find the exact culprits). Some of the google ones can be easily disabled (hangouts, drive, etc), but there's more than just those three moto apps that are trying to get network access.
For example, there seems to be some sort of service (Moto Checkin maybe?) that displays a ! warning symbol in the wifi signal meter if that service is not able to connect to some server, even if network access is working in other applications. Disabling that service would help cut down on RAM/CPU usage (even if it's only minute) and network usage (it seems to do this check every 15min or so).
EDIT:
Found what is causing the exclamation mark. It's an android system process that pings google servers to determine if the phone has a connection to the internet and not just the router. I was thinking it had to do with some Moto service because Droidwall grouped "Android System" in the same app category as a bunch of useless Moto services.
This thread details a bit more about it and how to disable it (I went with method 2A): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58252752&postcount=38
Not having a service trying to ping google every few minutes should help improve battery life and a minute amount of RAM/CPU usage.
pixiebob said:
thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
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/ according to me all the motorola phones come without bloatware and by removing mentioned apps i dont think there must be significant improvements. But definitely changing animations will definitely improve your performance but not the moto apps
Is the device still have memory leak bug. My device is lagging like hell after half an hour use.
The antutu benchmark is also 16163 which is very less i think. My Android One topped upto 22000.
I wrote a post similar to this as well, is there a way we can consolidate it to just this one?
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I don't know if it's well known, but I found the overall speed/performance to be a little slow. I'm talking about opening apps, and loading them, before they can be used. A simple thing I did was turn off all Moto stuff (Assist, Actions, Display). Not that the phone was bad as it's a very smooth overall device, but after turning off Moto, it really made a difference. All apps open and load much faster, and the UI seems snappier too. I know this may not be good for those who use Moto, but for me the trade off of turning it off is better than the little times I used it. Just thought I'd share in case there are people who are looking to gain a bit of speed.
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What's the best way to do this? Go into Apps and disable, or is there a better way to "turn it off"?
Disabling apps basically stops them from ever being active, period: once disabled they don't run anymore, don't have any services run anymore, and they disappear aka become invisible in the apps tray. The only thing they still do is "hang around" meaning they take up space on the device but that's a given. With a proper root and Titanium Backup (the full purchased version) you can completely uninstall said apps but there's always a chance you'll remove something that's integral to something else, especially when you're dealing with either the Google framework stuff or on Motorola devices the Moto system underpinnings.
Best course of action: go into Settings - Apps - and Force close the app, delete all the cached data if there is any and then disable the app(s) as required on the device itself and then go from there. If there's absolutely no issues ever with the functionality of the device then sure, you can do the root/Titanium Backup/uninstall route if necessary but you're not really going to save a ton of space overall.
Most times, disabling an app is more than enough to get it out of the way and stop bothering you for whatever reason(s).
bobbyphoenix said:
Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
Sent from my MotoE2(4G-LTE)
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Thanks, that really made a difference indeed.
I regret buying this, it lags like hell no matter what you do. I feel the moto g 2nd gen runs smoother. It could be the memory leak bug on 5.0.2.
fix-this! said:
I regret buying this, it lags like hell no matter what you do. I feel the moto g 2nd gen runs smoother. It could be the memory leak bug on 5.0.2.
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Well you have tweaked stuff since day one. I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I'm running stock, and the only change system wise I did was change Dev options for animations. I have no complaints as I switch back and forth from this, and my Note 3, and I only notice some slowness opening apps, but no lag, stutter, or anything I would consider bad performance. Maybe try flashing stock image, factory reset, and see how it is then.
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Well you have tweaked stuff since day one. I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I'm running stock, and the only change system wise I did was change Dev options for animations. I have no complaints as I switch back and forth from this, and my Note 3, and I only notice some slowness opening apps, but no lag, stutter, or anything I would consider bad performance. Maybe try flashing stock image, factory reset, and see how it is then.
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I have to say I agree here, I am also running Stock. I have not seen any serious lag on ths phone except slightly slower loading. And I know what lag feels like as I am the not so proud owner of a TF700 tablet....
All I have done is mod the animations likewise and disabled as much as I can that I don't use.
I run stock and only modified the animation speed and must say the phone lags much more than I anticipated.
Must be Lollipop because my parents both have the Moto G 4g (kitkat) and everytime I need to help them it feels much more fluid than my Moto e.
From loading apps and the play store to even swiftkey that seems to load so much quicker, very weird.
Just tested it yesterday because I thought I was making things up and put my dads phone and mine next to each other and the speed difference when loading apps was making me sad.
I just picked this phone up yesterday to hold me over until the next moto X, or maybe the next nexus.
came from a nexus 5 (only had it a month and well i couldn't live with its awful battery life, it was so bad maybe only 6 hours per charge and the battery was fairly new). now this phone is noticeably slower, but its really not so bad. I do think though that something in this software build for 5.0.2 is slowing it down. when i am using the phone it seems like theres plenty of free ram, but it just feels a little stuttery scrolling through things like a facebook feed. I had a moto x 2013, and a razr M before that, and am a big motorola fan, but I just cant see how this is so slow. it seems like it'd have to be faster than a razr M (which is same resolution, and 1GB ram) but it seems to me that something is really wrong here.
hopefully 5.1 comes out soon.
pixiebob said:
thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
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Can you make a few screensshot of disabled apps, please?
castillo92 said:
Can you make a few screensshot of disabled apps, please?
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i am in CM12.1 now, this rom is more battery friendly than stock rom so i suggest you to do same.
in CM12.1 all bloatware motorola is removed