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Please help me to choose ....should i buy a 2.5GHz processor quad-core Qualcomm 8974 Pro or an exynos octacore (Quad 1.9GHz + Quad 1.3GHz) variant of s5?
premsagar_rs1 said:
should i buy a 2.5GHz processor quad-core Qualcomm 8974 Pro or an exynos octacore (Quad 1.9GHz + Quad 1.3GHz) variant of s5?
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You should buy the model that best fits your needs. Each one has some advantages over the other. The primary determinant for most people would be which model is best supported by their carrier.
Speaking only for myself, I would never buy the Exynos (octacore 900H) because there are many more Qualcomm models (quadcore e.g. 900F) and as such they are much better supported by custom ROMs and Developers in general.
There have been countless threads about this, full of useful informarion. It's a good habit to search before posting. Have a look and you'll learn a lot about the phones that you are contemplating.
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You should buy the model that best fits your needs. Each one has some advantages over the other. The primary dererminant for most people would be which model is best supported by their carrier.
Speaking only for myself, I would never buy the Exynos (octacore 900H) because there are many more Qualcomm models (quadcore e.g. 900F) and as such they are much better supported by custom ROMs and Developers in general.
There have been countless threads about this, full of useful informarion. It's a good habit to search before posting. Have a look and you'll learn a lot about the phones that you are contemplating.
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Thanks for ur suggestion:good:
fffft said:
You should buy the model that best fits your needs. Each one has some advantages over the other. The primary determinant for most people would be which model is best supported by their carrier.
Speaking only for myself, I would never buy the Exynos (octacore 900H) because there are many more Qualcomm models (quadcore e.g. 900F) and as such they are much better supported by custom ROMs and Developers in general.
There have been countless threads about this, full of useful informarion. It's a good habit to search before posting. Have a look and you'll learn a lot about the phones that you are contemplating.
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I have to agree with you, in the most pain full way. I had no choice and I bought Exynos. For 4 months I have been waiting for a custom rom. I continue waiting. There are only two or so, samsung debloted roms.
Qualcomm quad core better... More Dev support.
Hey guys.
I was searching on internet about Note 4 and I found an article about note 4 and Exynos 64-bit processor. Immediately I jumped xda to talk with you about this. (Link to article)
I've just found a topic here which is nearly same, but I have some other questions to discuss. (Link to the other topic)
So as you guys know there is two versions of Note 4 which is Snapdragon and Exynos. As far as I know Exynos processor version is accually 64-bit. (I'm not sure if it's true or not.) We all know that Snapdragon version is way developer friendly so it will have more custom staff. In the other hand we might have a 64-bit processor which is marketted as a 32-bit processor by Samsung. (Again as far as I understand from the article above.)
So here is my concern. I don't know if devs wil work on snapdragon or Exynos but do you guys think that Note 4 Exynos can be used as 64-bit by the customizations done by devs since Android L supports 64-bit?
Hello there
I recently acquired our beloved Idol 3, the 4.7" variant (aka 6039Y), and I couldn't help but noticing a rather disturbing fact :
=> Any information about the 6039Y model is diluted in general threads or buried inside the 6045Y threads ...
Would it be possible for everybody posting information/patches/docs/etc specific to the 6039Y model to post stuff in specific threads with a [6039Y] tag in the title somewhere ?
I believe this would make finding relevant information way easier for everyone
I still dream of unified methods/patches for both models, considering both devices shouldn't be that different, but that is up to the volunteers providing the software to decide.
What do you guys/gals think ?
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Hello there
I recently acquired our beloved Idol 3, the 4.7" variant (aka 6039Y), and I couldn't help but noticing a rather disturbing fact :
=> Any information about the 6039Y model is diluted in general threads or buried inside the 6045Y threads ...
Would it be possible for everybody posting information/patches/docs/etc specific to the 6039Y model to post stuff in specific threads with a [6039Y] tag in the title somewhere ?
I believe this would make finding relevant information way easier for everyone
I still dream of unified methods/patches for both models, considering both devices shouldn't be that different, but that is up to the volunteers providing the software to decide.
What do you guys/gals think ?
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The problem you are gonna have is that you 6039 users are kinda gonna have to run with the ball because your root method AND version of TWRP is totally different then the ones for the 6045 so you can't even follow our guides (for example your version doesn't offer the option to backup "System image" which included partition info). Since no one has done it I don't think anyone would have an issue if you started "how to root on the 6039" and "how to install twrp on the 6039"...notice I'm not identifying a letter because I don't know if the 4.7 model only comes as a 6039Y....the 6045 has 6045i (usa/canada), 6045Y(europe), and 6045K (Various other places). There is also a rumored 6045B.
Dose the 4'7" even have same specs as 5'5" normally the specs ain't the same in smaller version CPU and ram etc , ie s4 quad core 2GB and s4 mini dual core 1.5gb and have totally different root guides and methods , I believe both variants will get good support evench its a cracking device and support is slowly building
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Dose the 4'7" even have same specs as 5'5" normally the specs ain't the same in smaller version CPU and ram etc , ie s4 quad core 2GB and s4 mini dual core 1.5gb and have totally different root guides and methods , I believe both variants will get good support evench its a cracking device and support is slowly building
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Different hardware. Different root method. Different version of TWRP. Different method of backing up system image. Basically the only thing that is the same is the fact they call both of them an "Idol 3".
Thought as much
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Different hardware. Different root method. Different version of TWRP. Different method of backing up system image. Basically the only thing that is the same is the fact they call both of them an "Idol 3".
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Considering both phones are Qualcomm-based, I would assume they aren't THAT different after all ? (I AM new to Android development, so there must be something I'm missing for sure )
I mean, Android is based and Linux, and our chip is just yet another ARMv7 chip which the linux kernel supports pretty well, so what makes an ARMv7 chip different from any other ARMv7 chip ?
Do they optimize the kernel so far that they strip anything useless for each phone out of it, effectively rendering each kernel useless on any other phone ?
One last question : wouldn't building a generic ARMv7 kernel from this page be a good starting point ? (msm projet is for Qualcomm hardware) : https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html#figuring-out-which-kernel-to-build
Note that I might be daydreaming here and I don't fully realise what amount of works this implies.
DarkZell666 said:
Considering both phones are Qualcomm-based, I would assume they aren't THAT different after all ? (I AM new to Android development, so there must be something I'm missing for sure )
I mean, Android is based and Linux, and our chip is just yet another ARMv7 chip which the linux kernel supports pretty well, so what makes an ARMv7 chip different from any other ARMv7 chip ?
Do they optimize the kernel so far that they strip anything useless for each phone out of it, effectively rendering each kernel useless on any other phone ?
One last question : wouldn't building a generic ARMv7 kernel from this page be a good starting point ? (msm projet is for Qualcomm hardware) : https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html#figuring-out-which-kernel-to-build
Note that I might be daydreaming here and I don't fully realise what amount of works this implies.
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You need to spend some time reading the existing threads such as the root thread etc where alot of this has been covered. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/help/root-ability-phone-t3116179
4.7" and 5.5" models have different hardware
The whole forum about Idol 3 is a big mess to me because most people do not realize that the Idol 3 comes in many different hardware configurations.
Indeed we should start stating comments in for at least 5.5 and 4.7 models. (GPU/3g/4g is different and what else) or for both if it applies.
Although this forum already implies it's about a 5.5 model according to the home page, there are many different hardware models discussed! We need active moderators when roms start roling to distinguish ourselfs from lemmings!
Maybe ask a mod to make a 4.7 model sub-forum.
The Sony Xperia Z2 and Z3 devices are both amongs one of Sony's best smartphones ever that they has released. By signing this petition, we will all let Sony take action and update our precious Z2 and even Z3 devices to Android Nougat!
But what about Vulkan API support???
Anything is possible, and we will prove to Google and Sony that having the minimum requirements for software to work correctly, is plain garbage, and that Vulkan API can be left out for them, because it's not like the Vulkan API is a necessity for Nougat in order to run correctly.
ANYMORE QUESTIONS WILL BE BROUGHT UP FROM THE COMMENTS ONTO THE OP AND ANSWERED HERE.
SIGN THIS PETITION NOW!: http://bit.ly/2eEwqN5
Thanks!
I Just Want A Stable 7.0 Build For Z2
Man i think this is impossible. Qualcomm completely left the development of the SD800/801 and if Sony update our devices without permission of Google, they will be in a big trouble. To me, this is impossible.
You are totally right Little Snevil. I also think that official update it's impossible because Qualcomm processor.
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Well, MAYBE it is possibile to get android 7.0 on snap 801. Just look http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...coming-soon-geekbench-benchmark-hints-yes.htm
This is sad, but change.org never has been listed by Google or Sony, like happen with z1 and marshmallow, Xperia L and kit kat, Xperia sp and kit kat. The true is Google and Sony never listen to users, only look the sales, and for those is better for him sale the new and forget the old
what i can say in that?
@Brandon Nel
Having a petition is a good idea, and I am not against it.
But there are two questions I would like to raise before proceeding to sign the petition:
1. Our Z3 and Z2 has been released for 24 and 30 months already, this already exceed the normal aftermarket support for Android devices (usually it goes among 18 to 24 months). Although you might say there has been rule breakers recently (for instance the Xperia Z that has almost 36 months of follow up upgrade), but however there are also some far below standard devices (eg Xperia C, which has no android upgrade since release). After all, Qualcomm, Sony and any other companies still have to make money for R&D and make a living, right? So I am thinking that shouldnt we live with what we are having now (AOSP 7.0)?
2. Shouldnt Qualcomm the company you should challenge against? Vulkan and OpenGS are featured in the chipset which is manufactured by QC, not Sony!
We should petition Qualcomm & Google instead of Sony.. Sony tried their best to bring Nougat through their Beta program for Z3.
But due to the lack of chipset updates from Qualcomm and the Vulkan API requirement set by Google, so many devices have been abandoned from the update even though they are fully capable to run N. This includes Z2 & Z3.
So in this case, either Qualcomm has to release update to our chipset or we have to force Google to remove mandatory Vulkan API requirement.
i need to pls make stable nougat..........................
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i need to pls make stable nougat..........................
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Then sign the petition and prey
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//This is purely an opinion, might be treated as sarcasm, but it is an opinion
1. Nougat is bad for me, it is uglier and security is even worse because of getting more strict.
2. It is nearly impossible to push this through, because now you need to actually HAVE that VulkanAPI support in order to get a cert from google to use gapps(Noone will use Vulkan straight away, because of fragmentation, but well, three billion devices run java, now three billion devices will have to run Vulkan as well and if not, they'll die)
Any effort is worthwhile haha. This should be shared in the Z3 forums!
Well, Sony published AOSP for Xperias. This might mean something, maybe they will be able to somehow get that cert.
Did you see this :
Sony is not to blame for leaving the Xperia Z3 off the Android Nougat list
http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/3...ng-the-xperia-z3-off-the-android-nougat-list/
All devices with SD 800/801 will not updated to Android N 7.0 , Because of Qulacomm .
Alaa | Google Android said:
Did you see this :
Sony is not to blame for leaving the Xperia Z3 off the Android Nougat list
http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/3...ng-the-xperia-z3-off-the-android-nougat-list/
All devices with SD 800/801 will not updated to Android N 7.0 , Because of Qulacomm .
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Not because of Qualcomm, but because of Google. They made Vulkan obligatory for getting certs. No one is going to use it from day one of Nougat anyway, because fragmentation, they want to push APIs, but Nougat isn't like 99% of Android right now. Although it might be handy when it reaches higher shares due to Vulkan's performance.
Hello,
Is the nexus 6p compatible with galileu gps system?
Or is it possible that in a near future becames compatible?
According to Qualcomm, SnapDragon 810 is not compatible, while 2016 processors (820/821 ...) it is.
brandaopj said:
Hello,
Is the nexus 6p compatible with galileu gps system?
Or is it possible that in a near future becames compatible?
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lordemines said:
According to Qualcomm, SnapDragon 810 is not compatible, while 2016 processors (820/821 ...) it is.
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I'm a little bit confused, because I've read this on another website:
According to Qualcomms website the Snapdragon 810 (like in my Nexus 6P) should support Galileo. But no doubt they'll refuse to release the necessary driver or code so people have to upgrade to a newer phone if they want it.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...cessor-powers-premium-tier-mobile-experiences
Galileo and Gps uses the same frequency for L1 band so on hardware side it should be OK. Now for the proprietary drivers is another story..
Are there other receivers already giving good positionning? Last time I check there weren't all spacracfts launched ? They had stability problems on their clocks.
Are they any news on snapdragon 810 support for galileo? It will be possible to make it work? too bad that Qualcomm says first it supports galileo and then only new processors will support it.
If there is not a problem with hardware I am pretty sure someone can force them as they advertise 810 as galileo supported. Usually what you advertise you must bring to buyers.