A new development kit available from hardkernel for the Exynos 4412 quad core. It's a relatively inexpensive exynos quad setup and has a wide array of add ons like wifi, 16gb rom, etc. http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
Before anyone flames me, I'm not advertising or trying to sell this. I'm only posting this because it's a great development kit for those wanting to mess with a quad core exynos without having the phone.
whats the reasoning behind limiting areas such as the USA Canada and Sweden to the Snapdragon 600 instead of giving them the Octa
2 reasons :
I. they cannot mass product the octa chip yet.
2. Until a few days ago, the octa did not support LTE chip for 4g. The above mentioned countries all support LTE.
If they cant provide enough chips for the device they want then they should pick a different chip and use that or just make less handsets. I hate it when manufacturers make several different versions of a device. It fragments development why not just make a single device and have a units d development force for a single device. Sadly I'll never understand manufacturers
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jack_slapped said:
If they cant provide enough chips for the device they want then they should pick a different chip and use that or just make less handsets. I hate it when manufacturers make several different versions of a device. It fragments development why not just make a single device and have a units d development force for a single device. Sadly I'll never understand manufacturers
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I'm pretty sure the only "development" device manufacturers are interested in is the development they do themselves. Although they do know XDA (and similar) forums exist, they don't openly support or condone any of their devices being modified in any way by anyone but the OEM manufacturer. Also, 99.5% of most people that purchase a device don't know or care what chips are used in them as long as thy work. So I highly doubt the manufacturing methods used will ever change. Basically, if it works for the manufacturer, that is all they care about.
Hey guys.
I was searching on internet about Note 4 and I found an article about note 4 and Exynos 64-bit processor. Immediately I jumped xda to talk with you about this. (Link to article)
I've just found a topic here which is nearly same, but I have some other questions to discuss. (Link to the other topic)
So as you guys know there is two versions of Note 4 which is Snapdragon and Exynos. As far as I know Exynos processor version is accually 64-bit. (I'm not sure if it's true or not.) We all know that Snapdragon version is way developer friendly so it will have more custom staff. In the other hand we might have a 64-bit processor which is marketted as a 32-bit processor by Samsung. (Again as far as I understand from the article above.)
So here is my concern. I don't know if devs wil work on snapdragon or Exynos but do you guys think that Note 4 Exynos can be used as 64-bit by the customizations done by devs since Android L supports 64-bit?
Hello there
I recently acquired our beloved Idol 3, the 4.7" variant (aka 6039Y), and I couldn't help but noticing a rather disturbing fact :
=> Any information about the 6039Y model is diluted in general threads or buried inside the 6045Y threads ...
Would it be possible for everybody posting information/patches/docs/etc specific to the 6039Y model to post stuff in specific threads with a [6039Y] tag in the title somewhere ?
I believe this would make finding relevant information way easier for everyone
I still dream of unified methods/patches for both models, considering both devices shouldn't be that different, but that is up to the volunteers providing the software to decide.
What do you guys/gals think ?
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Hello there
I recently acquired our beloved Idol 3, the 4.7" variant (aka 6039Y), and I couldn't help but noticing a rather disturbing fact :
=> Any information about the 6039Y model is diluted in general threads or buried inside the 6045Y threads ...
Would it be possible for everybody posting information/patches/docs/etc specific to the 6039Y model to post stuff in specific threads with a [6039Y] tag in the title somewhere ?
I believe this would make finding relevant information way easier for everyone
I still dream of unified methods/patches for both models, considering both devices shouldn't be that different, but that is up to the volunteers providing the software to decide.
What do you guys/gals think ?
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The problem you are gonna have is that you 6039 users are kinda gonna have to run with the ball because your root method AND version of TWRP is totally different then the ones for the 6045 so you can't even follow our guides (for example your version doesn't offer the option to backup "System image" which included partition info). Since no one has done it I don't think anyone would have an issue if you started "how to root on the 6039" and "how to install twrp on the 6039"...notice I'm not identifying a letter because I don't know if the 4.7 model only comes as a 6039Y....the 6045 has 6045i (usa/canada), 6045Y(europe), and 6045K (Various other places). There is also a rumored 6045B.
Dose the 4'7" even have same specs as 5'5" normally the specs ain't the same in smaller version CPU and ram etc , ie s4 quad core 2GB and s4 mini dual core 1.5gb and have totally different root guides and methods , I believe both variants will get good support evench its a cracking device and support is slowly building
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Dose the 4'7" even have same specs as 5'5" normally the specs ain't the same in smaller version CPU and ram etc , ie s4 quad core 2GB and s4 mini dual core 1.5gb and have totally different root guides and methods , I believe both variants will get good support evench its a cracking device and support is slowly building
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Different hardware. Different root method. Different version of TWRP. Different method of backing up system image. Basically the only thing that is the same is the fact they call both of them an "Idol 3".
Thought as much
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Different hardware. Different root method. Different version of TWRP. Different method of backing up system image. Basically the only thing that is the same is the fact they call both of them an "Idol 3".
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Considering both phones are Qualcomm-based, I would assume they aren't THAT different after all ? (I AM new to Android development, so there must be something I'm missing for sure )
I mean, Android is based and Linux, and our chip is just yet another ARMv7 chip which the linux kernel supports pretty well, so what makes an ARMv7 chip different from any other ARMv7 chip ?
Do they optimize the kernel so far that they strip anything useless for each phone out of it, effectively rendering each kernel useless on any other phone ?
One last question : wouldn't building a generic ARMv7 kernel from this page be a good starting point ? (msm projet is for Qualcomm hardware) : https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html#figuring-out-which-kernel-to-build
Note that I might be daydreaming here and I don't fully realise what amount of works this implies.
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Considering both phones are Qualcomm-based, I would assume they aren't THAT different after all ? (I AM new to Android development, so there must be something I'm missing for sure )
I mean, Android is based and Linux, and our chip is just yet another ARMv7 chip which the linux kernel supports pretty well, so what makes an ARMv7 chip different from any other ARMv7 chip ?
Do they optimize the kernel so far that they strip anything useless for each phone out of it, effectively rendering each kernel useless on any other phone ?
One last question : wouldn't building a generic ARMv7 kernel from this page be a good starting point ? (msm projet is for Qualcomm hardware) : https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html#figuring-out-which-kernel-to-build
Note that I might be daydreaming here and I don't fully realise what amount of works this implies.
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You need to spend some time reading the existing threads such as the root thread etc where alot of this has been covered. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/help/root-ability-phone-t3116179
4.7" and 5.5" models have different hardware
The whole forum about Idol 3 is a big mess to me because most people do not realize that the Idol 3 comes in many different hardware configurations.
Indeed we should start stating comments in for at least 5.5 and 4.7 models. (GPU/3g/4g is different and what else) or for both if it applies.
Although this forum already implies it's about a 5.5 model according to the home page, there are many different hardware models discussed! We need active moderators when roms start roling to distinguish ourselfs from lemmings!
Maybe ask a mod to make a 4.7 model sub-forum.
Hey everyone!
I am looking to buy this Ownice model but I am torn between it and the Joying 2GB Intel model.
Here is the Ownice Octa Core I am specifically looking at:
www dot aliexpress dot com/item/7-Full-Touch-Quad-Core-Android-4-4-Unversal-2-Din-Car-DVD-Player-GPS-Navigation/32376821907.html
Here is the Joying that I am torn between:
www dot aliexpress dot com/item/2G-32G-New-Android-5-1-Quad-Core-Universal-Car-Audio-Stereo-GPS-Navigation-Double-2/32753889718.html
The other Ownice thread seems to be more about the quad core version so I thought I should start a new thread dedicated to the Octa Core model, as they seem to have quite a lot different about them.
I am hoping people can give feedback about both models to help me make a decision to commit to. What are the pro's and con's you are experiencing. What pitfalls should I watch out for.
These 2 models seem to be the most popular machines on XDA right now, if you guys think there are different units I should be considering, please mention them.
Thanks in advance again for your help.