Europe's Galileo Satellite Navigation System compatible? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
Is the nexus 6p compatible with galileu gps system?
Or is it possible that in a near future becames compatible?

According to Qualcomm, SnapDragon 810 is not compatible, while 2016 processors (820/821 ...) it is.
brandaopj said:
Hello,
Is the nexus 6p compatible with galileu gps system?
Or is it possible that in a near future becames compatible?
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lordemines said:
According to Qualcomm, SnapDragon 810 is not compatible, while 2016 processors (820/821 ...) it is.
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I'm a little bit confused, because I've read this on another website:
According to Qualcomms website the Snapdragon 810 (like in my Nexus 6P) should support Galileo. But no doubt they'll refuse to release the necessary driver or code so people have to upgrade to a newer phone if they want it.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...cessor-powers-premium-tier-mobile-experiences​

Galileo and Gps uses the same frequency for L1 band so on hardware side it should be OK. Now for the proprietary drivers is another story..
Are there other receivers already giving good positionning? Last time I check there weren't all spacracfts launched ? They had stability problems on their clocks.

Are they any news on snapdragon 810 support for galileo? It will be possible to make it work? too bad that Qualcomm says first it supports galileo and then only new processors will support it.
If there is not a problem with hardware I am pretty sure someone can force them as they advertise 810 as galileo supported. Usually what you advertise you must bring to buyers.

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Snapdragon hardware multimedia support, possible?

Hi!
I've been trying to find any documentation on Snapdragon's DSP and hardware based video and audio decoders. So far, nothing. I'm just thinking if it would be possible to cook the support into custom ROM as it is quite ridiculous that decoding something like MP3 or AAC takes any CPU time at all, as according to Qualcomm's web site Snapdragon has hardware support for decoding MP3, AAC and H.264. I take it Qualcomm only provides the documentation to partners, as it is impossible to find?
Hopefully full support for hardware acceleration comes with WM7, if it can not implemented on 6.5. Should be doable with custom driver (in kernel mode) anyway by cooking, provided the documentation is leaked or something.
Mikko.
It's not possible to have the SnapDragon documentation because Qualcomm will never release it.
It's possible instead to have the missing SnapDragon drivers for Linux or I hope for Windows CE only when a QSD based smartbook that will have these drivers will be out.
With Windows Mobile 7 it's a whole new story, new CE7 kernel and support for all the new ARM instructions. I hope that we'll get that things and soon
kholk said:
It's not possible to have the SnapDragon documentation because Qualcomm will never release it.
It's possible instead to have the missing SnapDragon drivers for Linux or I hope for Windows CE only when a QSD based smartbook that will have these drivers will be out.
With Windows Mobile 7 it's a whole new story, new CE7 kernel and support for all the new ARM instructions. I hope that we'll get that things and soon
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That's a waste of potential, but we can only wait (or not? )
you Cant really expect qualcomm to release documents on its IP.
but it would be nice if they and htc worked together to release a dev sdk.
if they are serious about developing the platform then its a step they really do need to make.
if samsung can get a sdk out for the omnia ii then it seems sensible to think htc need to play catchup.. the chipset does have potential,and it appears qualcomm are becoming more dev friendly.
look at what southend have achieved with some decent support from QC..
documentation?
Qualcomm should be giving documentation to ISVs its just a matter of it falling in the wrong(or right) hands. In the meantime, Snapdragon uses ARM Cortex-A9 core and you can find more details here:
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9_MPCore.html
Not sure if that includes DSP.
My acer s200 has support for H.263, H.264 out the box =]
Ca5c4d3 said:
Qualcomm should be giving documentation to ISVs its just a matter of it falling in the wrong(or right) hands. In the meantime, Snapdragon uses ARM Cortex-A9 core and you can find more details here:
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9_MPCore.html
Not sure if that includes DSP.
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Snapdragon is Cortex A8 based and yes it does have DSP
mightymn said:
Snapdragon is Cortex A8 based and yes it does have DSP
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Do you know are the hardware multimedia decoders really silicon or SIMD/DSP based? From the QC's documentation you get the feeling they are ASIC stuff, but it might be marketing and in reality they are IP cores.
Mikko.
mikolas said:
Do you know are the hardware multimedia decoders really silicon or SIMD/DSP based? From the QC's documentation you get the feeling they are ASIC stuff, but it might be marketing and in reality they are IP cores.
Mikko.
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Nope, don't know that

GPS - Galileo will be available?

Note 7 could connect to Galileo satellites, but what about S7? Is possible (technically) to connect to the new EU satellites? May Samsung will give us sw update?
I want to know that too
It is certainly possible on the S7/S7E with Snapdragon/Qualcomm chipset version (US) (But perhaps only a after a firmware upgrade - I don't have one to test).
What I'd like to know is about the S7/S7E version with the Exynos chipset. Found nothing about it and am starting to think it won't be supported (which would be ironic as it is the model sold in the EU, there Galileo originated).
I have an Exynos and it does not seem able to see any Galileo satellite, although it hasn't had any update lately.
Note 7 has (or had...) Exynos 8890 chip and Galileo support. S7 edge has Exynos 8890 too so in theory Galileo should work in S7 edge but most likely requires sw update.
Hi everyone.
Galileo started offering Early Operational Capability (EOC) on 15 December 2016 and is expected to reach Full Operational Capability (FOC) in 2019
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So while the S7 has the ability to connect, that doesnt mean you will be able use it straight away. I would expect your ability to use it to be very random over the next 3 years as they continue to scale up the system.
Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)
http://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo_begins_serving_the_globe
What would improve?
Firstly, i want to distinguish between different systems. Whilst we (the public) say GPS to refer to all the systems as a whole, GPS is really the American NAVSTAR GPS system. For this post, GPS will refer to the American system.
The first improvement will be precision. The resolution is alot better. GPS is 5m whereas Galileo is 1m (note: GPS can do 1m precision but this is restricted to the US military)
Second improvement is reliability. GPS has been running since 1974 and so the satellites are going to start failing. Whilst they are likely to be replaced, priority is always given to the US military and third party use can be cut at anytime (just ask the Indians in 1999!)
Lastly is the nature of the system. As mentioned, GPS is a US military system and therefore use could be denied (war for example). The Galileo system however is primarily designed for emergencies such as search and rescue and natural disasters. Whilst politics of the EU could disrupt access, its more likely Donald Trump will cut access of GPS unless you pay for it than the EU doing so!
Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)
http://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo/What_is_Galileo
Hi, news about Galileo and Galaxy S7/S7 edge (EU version-Exynos) with Android 7 ?
Can Galaxy S7 operate with Galileo?
If Note 7 is/was confirmed to support Galileo, then it would, in theory, be possible for Dev's to create a MOD to enable it on S7/S7 Edge with Exynos 8890; is it?
S7 edge Nougat 7.0
Spartacus500 said:
S7 edge Nougat 7.0
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what type of s7 edge you are using?
and what ROM you are using?
just checked and mine finds galileo too. 935f, batman rom
ghbuur said:
just checked and mine finds galileo too. 935f, batman rom
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exynos or snapdragon?
jasoncled5 said:
exynos or snapdragon?
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exynos, 30.09.2016 manufacturing date
ghbuur said:
exynos, 30.09.2016 manufacturing date
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hi, u live in germany?
where can i see my manufacturing date?
i have G935FD, should i try the batman rom just for the sake of galileo?
jasoncled5 said:
hi, u live in germany?
where can i see my manufacturing date?
i have G935FD, should i try the batman rom just for the sake of galileo?
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no in switzerland with phone info *samsung* app from play store. even if you would not use/need galileo I would give a shot with that rom. dev made a great work. little hint...combo with notorious kernel..
ghbuur said:
no in switzerland with phone info *samsung* app from play store. even if you would not use/need galileo I would give a shot with that rom. dev made a great work. little hint...combo with notorious kernel..
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are u using the default setting of batman rom installation?
or does it even matter to obtain galileo?
if i dont use notorious kernel is there any effect of galileo compatibility?
jasoncled5 said:
are u using the default setting of batman rom installation?
or does it even matter to obtain galileo?
if i dont use notorious kernel is there any effect of galileo compatibility?
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yeah most is default except dual speaker, stock splash screen and some samsung apps i didn't install. but i guess those settings and even kernel doesn't matter concerning galileo. anyway the kernel is changed pretty fast. backup everything in recovery and try it out. hope I could help..
ghbuur said:
yeah most is default except dual speaker, stock splash screen and some samsung apps i didn't install. but i guess those settings and even kernel doesn't matter concerning galileo. anyway the kernel is changed pretty fast. backup everything in recovery and try it out. hope I could help..
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yea man i try it out right now
not sure since i live in asia can i get galileo compatibility
jasoncled5 said:
yea man i try it out right now
not sure since i live in asia can i get galileo compatibility
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philippines? i cannot imagine, should be worldwide like the russian and chinese "gps" too. let's see if the new rom helps..

RAM, can it be upgraded?

Let's think on the event that you do have knowledge and tools and skills to perform such "surgery", also disregard the possible costs.
Is it possible to ?
I've seen in an app that my phone the xt1640 witch have only 2gb instead of 4 like the other variants, uses Samsung ram modules, meaning that they can be brought and used right?
Although I've heard that ram is actually part of the SoC,in this event, could one get the chip from another variant that have 4gb and use on another variant that have 2gb?.
I've read somewhere that SD600 series can handle up to either 6 or 8 gb of RAM, I not entirely sure, while 800 series up to 16gb
If the ram is embedded in the SoC so it means that there are sd617 with 6 or 8gb available, can one solder that on the phone?
If the ram is separated, can one buy larger modules and manually upgrade them?
LionLorena said:
Let's think on the event that you do have knowledge and tools and skills to perform such "surgery", also disregard the possible costs.
Is it possible to ?
I've seen in an app that my phone the xt1640 witch have only 2gb instead of 4 like the other variants, uses Samsung ram modules, meaning that they can be brought and used right?
Although I've heard that ram is actually part of the SoC,in this event, could one get the chip from another variant that have 4gb and use on another variant that have 2gb?.
I've read somewhere that SD600 series can handle up to either 6 or 8 gb of RAM, I not entirely sure, while 800 series up to 16gb
If the ram is embedded in the SoC so it means that there are sd617 with 6 or 8gb available, can one solder that on the phone?
If the ram is separated, can one buy larger modules and manually upgrade them?
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You Have a Few Possibilities -
1. http://downloadmoreram.com
2.https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....re-modded-to-upgrade-ram-from-2gb-to-4gb/amp/
electronode said:
You Have a Few Possibilities -
1. http://downloadmoreram.com
2.https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....re-modded-to-upgrade-ram-from-2gb-to-4gb/amp/
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The second one is interesting.
It means it is possible.
Now I wonder if it's possible to use another CPU model.
Like if the same series would work or even totally different series.
If it would require drivers and etc.
LionLorena said:
The second one is interesting.
It means it is possible.
Now I wonder if it's possible to use another CPU model.
Like if the same series would work or even totally different series.
If it would require drivers and etc.
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Theorectically, I imagine only the same series of chips would work, given the motherboard traces and layout are likely specific to the SD 617. Micro-soldering on a different SoC to the Moto G4 motherboard, therefore, is gonna be very difficult/impossible. As you mentioned, that's before you even consider the firmware needed...

Does the Axon 7 have an ANT+ chip?

Does the Axon 7 support ANT+ ?
I've seen a few forum posts mention it, but it's not listed in the specs.
I would assume so since there is a driver installed called "ANT HAL Service 4.0.0" if you look through the system apps. And would it really be a separate chip? I would assume it's part of the Snapdragon 820 SoC, radio related things tend to be on the SoC. So if one Snapdragon XYZ phone has ANT support, all SD XYZ phones should. Unless I'm wrong and it is actually a discrete chip.
q1948306 said:
Does the Axon 7 support ANT+ ?
I've seen a few forum posts mention it, but it's not listed in the specs.
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well if some people said that LineageOS broke it, it should be working on stock, right?
Yes, it does. I use it regularly.

Galileo Support?

As this devices uses Snapdragon 821 chip does it have Galileo support? Can anyone confirm it please. I know that at the time of release it didn't support it, at least according to specs but from what I understand it can be done with firmware upgrade, thanks.
I think it might have galileo support, but, in my opinion, the gps is very good in this phone , i usually get very good accuracy when i'm using it...
F-L-Y-E-R said:
As this devices uses Snapdragon 821 chip does it have Galileo support? Can anyone confirm it please. I know that at the time of release it didn't support it, at least according to specs but from what I understand it can be done with firmware upgrade, thanks.
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No official timeline but mi6 is on testing in China.Note 2 will have Galileo support at Mar I guess.U can use Chinese MIUI forum to get access to it as early as possible.

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