I know there is already information on this topic ..... I have read conflicting advice on how to charge cell phone batteries, but I want to make sure and get the maximum use and life from the ZeroLemon 10000 Extended Battery for my Note 3 .....
The directions from the company simply state to give six full charges, but there is no explanation exactly what that means. I have sent the company a question regarding this issue, but still have not yet received an answer .....
I just finished the third full charge. When I received the battery, I charged it for 12 hours before unplugging from the charger. Then allowed my Note 3 to go completely dead (to Zero %). Then charged again for 12 hours. Did this three times so far.
I'm only getting around 37 hours of medium to heavy use, or about 1 1/2 days, and around 18-20 hours of Screen On Time, which seems somewhat impressive!
After I go through six charging cycles, should I always charge for 12 hours, or is this no longer necessary?
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Based on what I read in charging lithium ion batteries ( which I also practice ), you don't wait until battery discharges to 0 before charging it since it shortens the life span of the battery by damaging the negative electrode. The recommendation is to charge it once it reaches 10% and don't have to fully charge battery to 100%, just around 90 - 95%. Since lithium ion batteries don't have memory effect, partial charges and discharges don't have negative effect on the overall battery life.
Didn't made this up, just quoting from memory.
Never let my stock note 3 battery go below 5 percent. I am getting great battery life. The same with my old i9100.
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just recieved my HD2 and I've drained my battery to 0%. now I was wondering how long will it take to 100% charge again.. 3 hours? 8 hours?
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ps. Ive done my first 12hours charge already
With the original charger, about 2hrs if you don't use it at the same time.
yes Im using the orginal charger and the hd2 IS power off.
the stuff about charging for hours when you get it and then draining it right down no longer really applies too our batteries.that was for nickle batteries to initialise them and prevent the memory thing. with lithium ion they no longer suffer from battery memory.
ýeah it took about 2 h
2 and half ours starting from zero charge
I never did anything with the battery when i got mine!! Was way to eager to play! Never had any Battery issues.....
I did loosely time it once as i wanted to know what difference a quick charge would make and it seemed like it went up a percent approx every 3 mins... trouble is that doesn't quite equate... it would mean that from 0 - 100% would take 300mins (5hours)! but in reality it probably takes between 2-3hours..
I guess either the battery doesn't charge linearly or the percent display is inaccurate...
I Did a full charge at lunch time since it took me 1day and half till battery to drain completely,
I wonder if I should put it on charger all night long (its 10pm now and I have 80%) or should I let it out of charger...
If your battery needs charge, then charge it. There is NO NEED to completely discharge it and then charge it for sveral hours. In fact, modern li-ion batteries will take damage if _completely_ discharged!
The thing about completely discharging and charging for days is long gone! Batterys have evolved, we dont live in the 1990's anymore
Going to get my Arc on Monday, but I have some concerns about battery life
I see it uses LiPol battery - I searched through multiple formus, but I couldn't find proper advice :
- how to charge/format LiPol battery to get most out of it ?
Should I charge it for 8 hours first 4-5 cycles, or how to format LiPol ?
For Li-Polymor, just charge till full. But make sure to charge it before it falls below 10% - 20%. Charge it often (daily) for the first week. I find that doing so, improve the battery's hold on a charge.
Sony Ericsson's batteries are already charged and ready to be used.. so no need to do 8 hours first, but as darkmax1974 said, keep charging it regularly and don't let it go below 10%
amen. letting it die completely has a negative effect on the longevity
ok, I won't charge it for 12hrs for the first time, like I used to do with new phones
I want to make the most out of my galaxy tablet 10.1 battery life, i was wondering what would be the best care for it. Each 1% for me lasts about 4 and half minutes on 40% brightness, wifi on, gps off, and auto rotation off. I heard the g.tab gets close to 9 hours of battery life, but I estimate mine about 7.5ish? Also, would it be best to completely drain the battery and then recharge to 100? I heard its not good for lithium battery to drain completely and recharge because it will put more wear to it. Any suggestions?
Thanks
There are many theories but the following is what i follow.
It's not a good idea to discharge below 20%.
Lithium batteries don't like to be stored fully charged for long persiods of time, lithium battery is most happy at nominal voltage, so it's not a good idea to leave your device connected to charger if not needed.
I seem to get 1hour of display on use for 10% of battery, this is with minimum screen brightness.
Having read up about this I have decided to charge mine every night no matter what the charge. A typical day use can leave me with 40 percent to 80 percent left. I discovered that a charge cycle is not the same as a charge. A cycle means 100 percent of the charge stored being taken off and put on the battery. So if you use 20% a day and charge each night that is 1 cycle in 5 days not 5 cycles. There is no reason to avoid plugging it in as you dont want the charge to drop too low or else the battery is lessened very slightly.
I am sure there are lots of opinions on this but am happy with the above and battery performance is great. I was worried about unnecessary charging but that is not the thing to worry about - do anything you can to keep it over 20% (although a near total discharge every month would be good to keep the calibration in check).
Don't stress about it too much. Just enjoy the device. With sensible use your tab will he long replaced and discarded before the battery fails.
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^^^ my thoughts exactly. By the time the battery fails to hold a charge, the device will be far out dated...
Okay I googled this and I have gotten mixed results some saying that lithium ion batteries doesn't need to be charged for hours while others are actually saying it's still needed or let it drain to 20 % charge to 100% then drain to 20% then charge to 80% i did Google lithium ion batteries it did say they don't need to be charged for hours but every device I have brand new or not including my brand new iPod 6 I have now don't ask I'm leaving iOS actually lol all have poor battery life so I need to stop blaming the manufacturers and start blaming myself lol please any help would be appreciated
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Okay I googled this and I have gotten mixed results some saying that lithium ion batteries doesn't need to be charged for hours while others are actually saying it's still needed or let it drain to 20 % charge to 100% then drain to 20% then charge to 80% i did Google lithium ion batteries it did say they don't need to be charged for hours but every device I have brand new or not including my brand new iPod 6 I have now don't ask I'm leaving iOS actually lol all have poor battery life so I need to stop blaming the manufacturers and start blaming myself lol please any help would be appreciated
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For the 1st Time or after You Flashed any ROM/Firmware You Should Complete 3 Complete Cycles of Battery To Get The Best Results...
Charge 100% To Discharge 5% (Do Complete 3 Cycles )
Regarding Charging You will Not be need to Put Note 4 All Night Charging or Stuff like More Charging Then 1:30hours,Because it Have Adaptive Fast Charging Battery Will Charge in 1:30Hours & Give you 5:30hours SOT (it Depends on your usage also)...
Now Mostly Smartphones Have Built-in Feature To Stop Charging When It's Fully Charged...So No Need To Worry...But Every Battery Have Some Cycles when You reach that then battery will drain Fast or we can say You'll be in Condition to replace the Battery...But Will Easily Last for 2 or 3 Years To be Weak on...
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Okay thanks so much so basically I'll charge it to 100% without using it I'm guessing it's a quick charge so it wouldn't be an issue for me then use it to 5% 3 times sorry I'm a.d.d. So had to make sure I read what you said correctly and I'm not sure if I'm gonna root it when I get it phones no days are actually beginning to meet my standards speed wise lol thanks for the info
I've found no noticeable difference in following different guides on charging. Turn off fast charging when not required as that'll duff up your battery in 6 months.. Normal charging provides a nice slow rate and ensures they don't get hot which degrades them. A new battery will take a few full charges to get to full strength.
A new battery is like £!2. Don't worry about doing rain dances and such like!
Batteries used to hold a memory effect which made it look full before it actually was - this isn't the case anymore.
Fast charging gives me an hour less per day over constant charging normally. Note sure what others have found. I charge overnight hence turning off fast charge, and have a couple of spares ready to go should I need it.
i charge 14 hours and then use it normally. no need for anything more than that.
Hello!
I just received my new S7 edge and boy I love it. I have charged it only twice and now as it is 11 pm and my phone is left with just 17% battery, I need to charge it.
So I usually charged my old HTC One M7 overnight, not thinking about how it might ruin or damage the battery.
But how about the S7 edge? When does the adapter in the outlet know, when to stop charging?
The S7 supports fast charging, which I am using.
But with 6 hours of sleep, won't it over-charge overnight?
Since it's still sending small electrical pulses into the battery even though it's full.
Please help me!
Charging overnight shouldn't do damage. However, try to decrease use of fast charging. It creates more heat than normal charging, and heat exposure damages the battery.
You also want to charge your battery before it hits 40%. This is due to how lithium ion batteries work. Also, most recommendations say charge only to 80%.
Anyway the gist is, basically, batteries work by ion movement, and like a machine, these ions wear out over time due to use. And similar to machines, heavy use wears them out more. You're more likely to break an engine by running it for 1 day at max rev, than running it over a month at half capacity. The smaller the depth of discharge, the lower the wear. Lab tests have concluded that when you constantly discharge from 100 to 0, it allows you betwrrn 300-500 charge cycles before it starts to break down and not hold charges. More specifically, when you reach that magic number your battery can only hold 75% of it's original charge. That's typically 1-2 years of use if you charge once a day. And heavy abusers charge more than once a day, so that decreases the time span to however many weeks it takes them to reach 500 charge cycles. Now, the increase in charge cycles is exponential, not arithmetical. So a depth of discharge to 50 before recharging will not give you 600-1000 charges. Rather it will give you 1200-1500 charge cycles. Mathematically, draining a 3600mah to zero for 300 charges gives you 1080000mah to burn through however short your battery life will be. On the other hand, using only 50% of the battery before recharging gives you 2160000mah to burn through before it expires after at least 1200 charge cycles. In other words, it stored twice more power for you to use. If you say, charge once every 24hrs, going always from 100 to 0 gives you at least 300 days. Recharging twice a day at 50% gives your battery at least 600 days of use before battery capacity deteriorates noticeably. Discharging to 75% before recharging actually gives you 2000-2500 charge cycles, making it even longer. Basically the point is, always plug the phone in when given the chance. Don't wait for 50%, or whatever. 40% is an arbitrary number actually, not sure why it's chosen. Also, this is why one of the choices to auto activate power saving in the S7 is at 50%, so that it keeps the battery up as close to 50% as possible when you get the chance to plug in.
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As for charging to 80%, this is because partial charge is better than full charge for lithium ion batteries. The ions are placed on stress to hold charges. Maximum stress is at 100% charge. And like everything else, stuff tends to break more. So not running it to 100% all the time will reduce overall stress experienced and increase the time before deterioration occurs. Personally I charge to 90%, and discharge to 40% or above. That's a 50% depth of charge, so that's good for up to 1500 charge cycles, plus whatever number of cycles the decrease in max stress gives me.
However, note that environmental temperatures also play a role in battery longevity.
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No harm in leaving it plugged in all night and charging to 100%. The phone controls the battery from being overcharged, not the charger. I've switched off fast charging on mine, as that can be hard on a battery over time and I have no need for it charge any faster than overnight.
Thanks for the info. I didnt know that. And does the battery also work better, as in gives you more SOT if you charge it like you said?
Saridas said:
Thanks for the info. I didnt know that. And does the battery also work better, as in gives you more SOT if you charge it like you said?
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No it won't. It just makes the battery last longer before it needs replacement. It's not going to affect how fast you drain your battery because that's dependent on your usage.
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