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Try new firmware on S4 without rooting possible?

Hi All,
Am using an i337M S4 from Rogers here in Canada and was wondering if it was possible to use ODIN and try out the new leaked 4.4 firmware. Is rooting required to achieve this?

rsarwar said:
Hi All,
Am using an i337M S4 from Rogers here in Canada and was wondering if it was possible to use ODIN and try out the new leaked 4.4 firmware. Is rooting required to achieve this?
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First you must be certain the leak is for i337m model becuase there is the international version and the US version which are both different from the model you have (I have the same but Telus). Now as far as the files, if they are in .tar format then you can flash via Odin, if thet are .zip then you need a custom recovery to flash them. I know for certain you need to root to go the custom recovery route, I think you need to be rooted to flash they system files in Odin also (which if it is a stock rom you are flashing would loose root following the flash). Depending of the root method you choose be aware also that you may trip the Knox counter also, definately if you install a custom recovery. There a number of 4.4 roms for the i337m already that are not stock and are rooted, you may want to look at these also. Most importantly... before you attempt anything read...read ... read... there are pity falls you can end up in if you don't pay close attention......

Gage_Hero said:
First you must be certain the leak is for i337m model becuase there is the international version and the US version which are both different from the model you have (I have the same but Telus). Now as far as the files, if they are in .tar format then you can flash via Odin, if thet are .zip then you need a custom recovery to flash them. I know for certain you need to root to go the custom recovery route, I think you need to be rooted to flash they system files in Odin also (which if it is a stock rom you are flashing would loose root following the flash). Depending of the root method you choose be aware also that you may trip the Knox counter also, definately if you install a custom recovery. There a number of 4.4 roms for the i337m already that are not stock and are rooted, you may want to look at these also. Most importantly... before you attempt anything read...read ... read... there are pity falls you can end up in if you don't pay close attention......
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Thanks for the reply .. actually I had a S2 before which was rooted and I used many different ROMs on it. I did root the S4 once as well but then lost it when I did the 4.3 update. Since then I never tried to re-root, is there an easy way too root right now for the i337M with 4.3?

If you are on stock unrooted 4.3 you should get official 4.4 update soon.
Also, questions go in the qna section not the development section
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk

RK said:
If you are on stock unrooted 4.3 you should get official 4.4 update soon.
Also, questions go in the qna section not the development section
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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If you wait for the update you will likely be waiting longer for a root solution... if you want to root the phone, look up chainfire's CF-auto root for i337m

[Q] How Can I Root My GalaxyS4 SGH-1337 4.4.2 | Please Read and Help :)

hey so im a noob right now, this is my first post on here and ive been searching for endless hours looking for an answer.
I have a
Samsung Galaxy S4 AT&T SGH-I337 (got in Arizona, but says Made in Korea)
Firmware: 4.4.3
im trying to find a method that will work for my phone to root it, i have a 32 gb sd card and ive read that other people are not successful with the same phone as me, something like it being "bootlock" by the carrier in this case "AT&T" .
and i have no idea what like nb1 mk2 things are im seriously so lost in ever loop i need helpp lol
but ive looked around for solutions and cant seem to find one.
if there is anyone who can help me root my phone, ill give you any info that you need from my phone,:laugh:
thanks !

There is no direct root method for KitKat. So, you have to do a partial downgrade to MK2(4.3), root and then install a pre-rooted KitKat ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2680868
Let me know if you need more info
Sent from my SGH-I337 running GPE using Tapatalk

jmjoyas said:
There is no direct root method for KitKat. So, you have to do a partial downgrade to MK2(4.3), root and then install a pre-rooted KitKat ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2680868
Let me know if you need more info
Sent from my SGH-I337 running GPE using Tapatalk
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does installing a prerootted rom trip knox?

No. But appreciate reading the the thread for more info
Sent from my SGH-I337 running GPE using Tapatalk

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N900V 4.4.2

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N900V 4.4.2
Im really confused on rooting this thing.
Just got it last night and cant wait to get rid of all this bloatware!!!
Anyway,I'm reading sooo many different things here...Can root, can't root, cant install custom roms...Im not sure what I can do. All the tuts Ive seen so far are one devices wiht firmware lower than 4.4.2. Am I better off waing. Thanks

20phileagles said:
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N900V 4.4.2
Im really confused on rooting this thing.
Just got it last night and cant wait to get rid of all this bloatware!!!
Anyway,I'm reading sooo many different things here...Can root, can't root, cant install custom roms...Im not sure what I can do. All the tuts Ive seen so far are one devices wiht firmware lower than 4.4.2. Am I better off waing. Thanks
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Go here: https://towelroot.com
Download towel root app and install. You are now rooted. Install safe strap 3.75 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Now you have custom recovery. You can now install custom TW rooms from the VZ android development thread.

^^^^this but if you have NC4 out the box Jasmine Rom is the only one that supports NC4 kernel. You can odin the NC2 kernel and flash any TouchWiz rom.

You can do it I did no problems, easy as it can get. Also install Super SU and busybox, don't forget to run them.
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figured it out thanks
neopolotin75 said:
^^^^this but if you have NC4 out the box Jasmine Rom is the only one that supports NC4 kernel. You can odin the NC2 kernel and flash any TouchWiz rom.
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it is NC4 and the only safe strap i see is NC2, is it cool to install the NC2??
BTW The root worked fine, Thanks, I just need to verify that I can use NC2

20phileagles said:
figured it out thanks
it is NC4 and the only safe strap i see is NC2, is it cool to install the NC2??
BTW The root worked fine, Thanks, I just need to verify that I can use NC2
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Safe strap will work just make sure you install busy box 1st then the KK safestrap.

neopolotin75 said:
Safe strap will work just make sure you install busy box 1st then the KK safestrap.
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Im confused, post #2 don't say nothing about busy box but the post #6 say install busy box before KK safe strap..i search in the play store for busy box but there are a different ones. What is the one that i need.any link would help..thanks..

android-incredible said:
Im confused, post #2 don't say nothing about busy box but the post #6 say install busy box before KK safe strap..i search in the play store for busy box but there are a different ones. What is the one that i need.any link would help..thanks..
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After you run towel root and you're rooted you then install busy box then safe strap. Most custom roms have busy box installed already.

verizon S5 with BOg5 and lollipop

I bought a new/ used S5 (to replace my rooted S3) and had hoped to root it as well. Towel root made rooting very easy back then (for my S3) and now as I read the threads with people having the same S5 config as mine, there seems to be no way to root......not even by downgrading to 4.4. Is this correct ?
Being new to this, I am a bit confused about the other custom ROMs being discussed. Does my S5 need to be rooted to install a custom ROM ?
Thanks much

overheredg said:
I bought a new/ used S5 (to replace my rooted S3) and had hoped to root it as well. Towel root made rooting very easy back then (for my S3) and now as I read the threads with people having the same S5 config as mine, there seems to be no way to root......not even by downgrading to 4.4. Is this correct ?
Being new to this, I am a bit confused about the other custom ROMs being discussed. Does my S5 need to be rooted to install a custom ROM ?
Thanks much
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Correct, it's been said over and over in this forum. If you are on BOG5 you cannot root or downgrade. And yes, you must be rooted to run a custom ROM.

landshark68 said:
Correct, it's been said over and over in this forum. If you are on BOG5 you cannot root or downgrade. And yes, you must be rooted to run a custom ROM.
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thanks for responding... any guidance on how to disable apps without root access ? I've seen some youtube "how to" videos, but they arent specific to my phone.
thanks again

im rooted
landshark68 said:
Correct, it's been said over and over in this forum. If you are on BOG5 you cannot root or downgrade. And yes, you must be rooted to run a custom ROM.
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I just bought a s5 off ebay bog5 and its rooted..
build g900vvru2bog5
android 5.0 kltevzw
have titainium backup and it shows root. has SU and safe strap 3.75. but weird thing with safestrap is i dont get the slpash screen from it..
thats my problem. any thoughts?

jtskir222 said:
I just bought a s5 off ebay bog5 and its rooted..
build g900vvru2bog5
android 5.0 kltevzw
have titainium backup and it shows root. has SU and safe strap 3.75. but weird thing with safestrap is i dont get the slpash screen from it..
thats my problem. any thoughts?
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I was under the impression that safestrap didn't work with lollipop. That's why people used flashfire

ldeveraux said:
I was under the impression that safestrap didn't work with lollipop. That's why people used flashfire
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i think it will at least in my case.
im waiting for more feed back
this is what i got so far
I did everything to install busy box and safestrap correct with zero issues at all.. except when i go to reboot i never get the safestrap screen.. tried rebooting many times...
i am rooted
android 5.0
build # g900vvru2bog5
bootloader g900vvru1boc4
kernal 3.4.0-4782027
type kltevzw
any idea whats going on?
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You need to flash the NI2 kernel forest, then reboot. This should get you into SS. Look for NI2flasher.apk
You will also need to flash your build kernel (OG5) BEFORE you exit SS.

Help flash new rom on s4 i337

so I rooted my s4 i337 with king root and I want to install a custom rom. Using twrp and loading into it makes me get a error message like at&t has detected unauthorized software. I have odin open can i flash it using odin on my pc? I want a new rom so my phone wont lag when i watch videos and listen to music.

You need Safe Trap recovery.
And never use King Root again.

If the i337 has a locked bootloader, the phone can only be flashed with custom ROMS that are based on a stock Samsung ROM and use Safestrap for installation.
The s4 ATT forum is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att

Pwnycorn said:
You need Safe Trap recovery.
And never use King Root again.
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thanks guys but why is kingroot bad?

SpiralFuzion123 said:
thanks guys but why is kingroot bad?
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not trusted, and install unnecessary junk apps that could be a malware, it's just not advised, if you had no choice and you're planning to keep root, then replace it with SuperSU..there are guides for that.