Just got the new G2 and its a bit disappointing that it doesn't have a front facing camera on it. Now I am looking for a way to do video calling with the use of a Web Camera. It would involve connecting the two devices with a USB Female-Female Adapter and designing an app to use the camera. Does anyone have an idea where to start on something like that?
i guess you have to look into usb host driver, there was one guy doing this with a nexus one i think, just search on youtube there was a video
Once you make the special adapter to trigger your phone into USB host mode (if possible) you will still run into a problem of no driver support for your webcam and no applications capable of using a usb camera.
basically you're SOL for a good while
has anyone tried? and will it work?
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has anyone tried? and will it work?
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Nothing like that will work without drivers. If you had linux drivers you might be able to make something work, but it would not be plug and play.
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Nothing like that will work without drivers. If you had linux drivers you might be able to make something work, but it would not be plug and play.
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what about those plug and play webcams with installed drivers on them already? shouldn't that work since it is both windows/linux compatible? just as the same how external hard drives will work with our archos, and that also have drivers installed in them. (both windows/linux compatible also)
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what about those plug and play webcams with installed drivers on them already? shouldn't that work since it is both windows/linux compatible? just as the same how external hard drives will work with our archos, and that also have drivers installed in them. (both windows/linux compatible also)
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Ive never seen one, so I don't know for sure. Hopefully someone else will chime in on that. If you have an a70, there is only limited power available from the usb port. 200ma I think. If you try one and it works, be sure and let us know.
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what about those plug and play webcams with installed drivers on them already? shouldn't that work since it is both windows/linux compatible? just as the same how external hard drives will work with our archos, and that also have drivers installed in them. (both windows/linux compatible also)
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Just an FYI hard drives and cameras do not usually have drivers installed on them.. For example windows uses a driver called usbstor.sys that usb drives must adhere to in order to work properly. Delete this file and all your lovely USB drives in windows will no longer work unless you installed some crazy 3rd party software..
See here for more info
Ok so I just realized that most apps are drivers within itself (correct?) to run basic functions for a specific hardware like say camera effect apps for the camera. So now here is an idea...since the motorola xoom has a stock camera app implemented on the tablet to run both the front camera and a switch to use the rear camera....wouldn't it be possible as a theory to use a plug and play external usb webcam with the archos tablet and install the motorola xooms camera app instead of the archos camera app to use to switch between the front camera and usb camera (being as a rear camera)?
does anyone know where I can get the motorola xoom camera app to download? I would like to try it myself if I can get a hold of that app and just by a cheapo plug and play cam for 6 bucks if no one else is willing to try it...
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Ok so I just realized that most apps are drivers within itself (correct?) to run basic functions for a specific hardware like say camera effect apps for the camera. So now here is an idea...since the motorola xoom has a stock camera app implemented on the tablet to run both the front camera and a switch to use the rear camera....wouldn't it be possible as a theory to use a plug and play external usb webcam with the archos tablet and install the motorola xooms camera app instead of the archos camera app to use to switch between the front camera and usb camera (being as a rear camera)?
does anyone know where I can get the motorola xoom camera app to download? I would like to try it myself if I can get a hold of that app and just by a cheapo plug and play cam for 6 bucks if no one else is willing to try it...
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An app is not a driver. A driver basically is the interface between the hardware and the app. When an app interacts with hardware, it does so through the driver. That way a vendor can build hardware however they want, as long as they provide a driver that conforms to pre-established specifications so that the software provider can access it with standard commands. That's why the idea of a camera with built in drivers doesn't make sense. The software would not know to address the camera through the USB port. It needs a driver to address which would in turn address the hardware. Support for devices like thumb drives is built into the operating system, so you don't need a driver.
As has been pointed out, they don't have drivers preinstalled; rather they use protocols that are supported by the host operating system (Windows, Mac, etc) out of the box. The type of "plug and play" webcams you're talking about rely on the the universal WDM in Windows along with such protocols or frameworks as DirectShow, TWAIN, etc.
The point is, the host OS has to know how to talk to those plug-and-play webcams, not the other way around. So in the case of the Archos tablet, it would have to have the same support baked into it at the driver level. Which it doesn't.
So unless you're going to reverse-engineer those protocols and write your own Android driver, it's not gonna happen.
In the case of the Motorola Xoom camera app (or the camera app for any other device/phone for that matter), it's specifically coded to the camera chip used in that device, and has no chance of working with an external webcam. Just like it wouldn't work for the camera in my Evo phone, or anything else besides the Xoom. The only chance would be if it was a device that used the exact same camera chip hardware, but the chances of that are slim. Even devices made by the same manufacturer, such as the HTC Evo and the HTC Droid Incredible, use two different camera chips and drivers.
But.. if your usb camera is working with opensource linux drivers (like uvc driver) there is a high chance that it will work on android if someone compiles the missing kernel modules (aka drivers) like I did for dvb devices. AND THEN.. someone has to write an extended camera app which supports selecting different cameras
any advancements with this issue?
I have an archos 80 g9 8gb. I want to plug in my Sony video camera using a firwire to USB cable and an USB to micro adapter. I then want to use my tablet to broadcast on ustream.com. I am in a paranormal group, I use a night vision camera, therefore I need to figure out a way to do this. We currently use an apple laptop that constantly needs to be plugged in. Being able to use the tablet for this would a much better solution for a few reasons.
Has anyone found/made any drivers?
Would be really useful this. I'd donate.
I am in a similar boat as a few others here. I want to switch over to an Android tablet in my truck, but it's pretty large and the need of a rear view / back up camera is a must. During my past 48 hoursearch this is the most useful, and encouraging info that I could find. I am not a coder, but those who are can probably work with the source code I found on this site. I hope this helps us all. Maybe with the release of ICS the difficulty usb hosting for webcams won't require that much effort. Have a look
brain.cc.kogakuin.ac.jp/research/usb-e.html
Good day everyone. I have motorola defy with the CyanMod 10 Android Version 4.1.1 and I want to know how to enable the USB Hosting on the phone.
Recently I acquired a Canon 7D camera and I wanted to use my phone as a controller for the camera and I found an amazing app for it, the DSLR Controller https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.dslrcontroller&hl=en, I've been looking around and I haven't find a way or why my cellphone doesn't detect the camera or even an USB Pen Drive. I have a USB on-the-go cable and apparently the app is compatible with my phone since I was able to download it. I can't find anywhere about this problem and I really want my phone to host and work as a remote controller for my cam. Physically I've tried different cables so the cable is working fine.
*How can I enable the hosting?
*is there an app for it?
*If i have to program a code for it, what app or how can I change the text code on my PC?
*Am I doing something wrong???
*Anyone has the same problem???
I've found a similar thread but it's no tutorial on how to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960633 so if anyone can help me, I'll be a very happy man.
Thanks for your time.
I think it has not been yet implemented in the current custom kernel(but will be)
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i have root my nexus 7 with CM rom , timur usb host mode.
I have an otg cable and bought a light wave video grabber (UG10) so i can install a reverse camera like this video youtube (V-gLrqUHATQ) (Nexus 7 Backup Camera - UVC Video grabber) (not a webcam) as i am using the nexus in my car.
the otg cable works fine,tried and tested but when i connect the camera and use simplewebcam app it doesnt work
does anyone know what i can do to get this working like in the video?what am i doing wrong?do i need to download some ROMS,drivers...etc
I just wonder if anyone has setup a front dash camera with RK3066/RF3188 head units. What application do you use to to record video from USB front camera in the background? How do you configure this application to launch automatically on boot and start recording immediately in background?
Thanks.
I have set up some USB cam apps. Right now I'm trying to get composite IN to record, but. So far "CaroO Pro (Dashcam & OBD)" has worked out the best for me. All of the settings you're asking about are easily located and configured in the app. I can have it start with movement/when my car starts/when I tell it to. It also has the option to run in the background. The other feature it has is a floating widget if you like to either see your car information. Or to take you back into the main app. Another nice thing about this app is the it connects to your bluetooth OBD adapter if you have one. Giving you a lot more information if you are looking for that sort of thing. My second choice is "AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox". It does not have as many bells and whistles as CaroO, but it gets the job done. All other apps I have tried have been more of a hassle to use and set up. I would suggest trying free CaroO trial and seeing what you think. I am not sure if this helped at all, but I will be here to answer any other questions if you have them.
Has anyone got this working?
I have an Eonon G2110z head unit running KitKat and am trying to set up a dash cam. I have tried a "video in" camera (which i'd prefer to use) and a usb camera but all the dash cam apps I've tried ( about 10 I think) say they can't find the camera.
Is there any way of telling Android that the video in is where it expects the phone camera to be?
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I have an Eonon G2110z head unit running KitKat and am trying to set up a dash cam. I have tried a "video in" camera (which i'd prefer to use) and a usb camera but all the dash cam apps I've tried ( about 10 I think) say they can't find the camera.
Is there any way of telling Android that the video in is where it expects the phone camera to be?
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My USB camera works perfect and almost all apps recognize it. It's one of those board cams they usually use with Raspberry Pie/Arduino. It seems for the best results to look for a UVC compliant USB camera. I am not an expert in any way with these standards. But they seem to be highly compatible with Linux/Android due to them only needing to run off of a generic driver like thumb drives/external drives.
As for the video in/AV/RCA type, I still have not figured this one out :/
*A not much help rant that can be ignored: I did get an image to show up from my dash cam using a dumb/convoluted way. But it would always freeze. The flow was: micro HDMI on dash cam to standard HDMI to an HDMI digital to analog RCA converter. I have also tried the 2.5mm AV out on the cam to RCA. I think it was the same result, but now that I write this I want to go try again...
Sorry I am not much help. I hope you get this figured out. If you do, I would be forever thankful if you shared your results
I'm currently using Daily Roads with USB camera usually sold with those headunits. Problem with this apk is that it can't save last recoded file (when you switch ignition off). Can you confirm that carO pro saves last file properly?
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My USB camera works perfect and almost all apps recognize it. It's one of those board cams they usually use with Raspberry Pie/Arduino. It seems for the best results to look for a UVC compliant USB camera. I am not an expert in any way with these standards. But they seem to be highly compatible with Linux/Android due to them only needing to run off of a generic driver like thumb drives/external drives.
As for the video in/AV/RCA type, I still have not figured this one out :/
*A not much help rant that can be ignored: I did get an image to show up from my dash cam using a dumb/convoluted way. But it would always freeze. The flow was: micro HDMI on dash cam to standard HDMI to an HDMI digital to analog RCA converter. I have also tried the 2.5mm AV out on the cam to RCA. I think it was the same result, but now that I write this I want to go try again...
Sorry I am not much help. I hope you get this figured out. If you do, I would be forever thankful if you shared your results
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Many thanks for this, I'll see if I can grab one of those UVC compliant cameras.
It seems to me that the apps just look for what android presents as the phone camera- maybe the trick is to get android to think that the av is the phone camera?
AV plays perfectly on the screen when I select the video player.
I used the DailyRoads app with a Logitech USB camera with decent success. I had to use another app to auto-launch the DailyRoads app on bootup. The only issue that I had was the camera picture seeming to get too bright or too dark in some situations. Manually stopping and re-recording the video seemed to fix the picture, but this was not ideal.
Since installing my new headunit, I'm going to give some other apps a try to see if the problem lies with software or my camera. Thanks for the suggestion on CaroO, I'll give it a shot.
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I'm currently using Daily Roads with USB camera usually sold with those headunits. Problem with this apk is that it can't save last recoded file (when you switch ignition off). Can you confirm that carO pro saves last file properly?
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Sorry for the late reply. I meant to check that night. I tested it twice with car0. Once turning the car off and letting the head unit sleep. Then turning back on right away. And again but let the unit fully power down and boot up. Both times Caro0 saved the videos perfectly fine.
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I have set up some USB cam apps. Right now I'm trying to get composite IN to record, but. So far "CaroO Pro (Dashcam & OBD)" has worked out the best for me. All of the settings you're asking about are easily located and configured in the app. I can have it start with movement/when my car starts/when I tell it to. It also has the option to run in the background. The other feature it has is a floating widget if you like to either see your car information. Or to take you back into the main app. Another nice thing about this app is the it connects to your bluetooth OBD adapter if you have one. Giving you a lot more information if you are looking for that sort of thing. My second choice is "AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox". It does not have as many bells and whistles as CaroO, but it gets the job done. All other apps I have tried have been more of a hassle to use and set up. I would suggest trying free CaroO trial and seeing what you think. I am not sure if this helped at all, but I will be here to answer any other questions if you have them.
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That Caro0 app works well but doesn't "Autoload at start-up".
I've installed a basic app that autoloads Caro0. Autostart - No root
In settings menu it only gives me option to save video to internal memory, Anyone any idea how to change from within the app?.
What USB cameras are everyone using? I want to pickup a cheaper one to test and see if I want to run a dash cam.
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That Caro0 app works well but doesn't "Autoload at start-up".
I've installed a basic app that autoloads Caro0. Autostart - No root
In settings menu it only gives me option to save video to internal memory, Anyone any idea how to change from within the app?.
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I have no problems getting Caro0 to auto start. It'll open the app back up when my unit boots if that was the last screen I left it on. Or I have the setting checked to auto start once I begin to drive. I will have to look where my files are stored. I remember having issues with this too. I'm pretty sure I have them recording to a flash drive now. I will check.
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What USB cameras are everyone using? I want to pickup a cheaper one to test and see if I want to run a dash cam.
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This is the camera I am currently using. I had a friend use their 3D printer to make a case for it. Although, no matter what recording app I use I everything is too dark. It might be just the camera, but I'm looking for a way to make the overall image brighter without being over exposed. I think I'm just going to buy another soon anyways...
Hi guys!
Any luck with AV IN (RCA) video recording from back/rear/reverse camera? I have a Joying rk3188 JY-131 unit but not any look. The device coming with 2 cams, front\DVR is USB with night vision, the rear is analog camera. The front camera is not very good because IR LEDs working continuously and that make the video and picture quality very bad at day light Some suggestions to fix that problem?
I had an android rear view mirror and it can recort simultaneously with front and back cameras. The program is FireEye.apk, i tried to install a different versions at my double din, but no one work.
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I have no problems getting Caro0 to auto start. It'll open the app back up when my unit boots if that was the last screen I left it on. Or I have the setting checked to auto start once I begin to drive. I will have to look where my files are stored. I remember having issues with this too. I'm pretty sure I have them recording to a flash drive now. I will check.
This is the camera I am currently using. I had a friend use their 3D printer to make a case for it. Although, no matter what recording app I use I everything is too dark. It might be just the camera, but I'm looking for a way to make the overall image brighter without being over exposed. I think I'm just going to buy another soon anyways...
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Hi wigglitz!
Any progress recording the brightness? I just ordered the same cam for the same purpose...
Could you post an image of your cam housing - or even better post the 3d printer file?
I'm using USB and have mine as a front camera (front grill) for curb stops mainly. My car sits low. Using the default DVR app as well. Works beautifully. Found a weatherproof usb cam specifically for it too, since most dvr cams aren't weatherproof. I love it!
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I have set up some USB cam apps. Right now I'm trying to get composite IN to record, but. So far "CaroO Pro (Dashcam & OBD)" has worked out the best for me. All of the settings you're asking about are easily located and configured in the app. I can have it start with movement/when my car starts/when I tell it to. It also has the option to run in the background. The other feature it has is a floating widget if you like to either see your car information. Or to take you back into the main app. Another nice thing about this app is the it connects to your bluetooth OBD adapter if you have one. Giving you a lot more information if you are looking for that sort of thing. My second choice is "AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox". It does not have as many bells and whistles as CaroO, but it gets the job done. All other apps I have tried have been more of a hassle to use and set up. I would suggest trying free CaroO trial and seeing what you think. I am not sure if this helped at all, but I will be here to answer any other questions if you have them.
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Any luck on a dvr function on the composite in yet?
I got a cam connected to it. When I select the AVIN on malaysk rom. I get the image of the front camera. But I am not able to use it for a DVR so far.
Did you have any luck?
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Any luck on a dvr function on the composite in yet?
I got a cam connected to it. When I select the AVIN on malaysk rom. I get the image of the front camera. But I am not able to use it for a DVR so far.
Did you have any luck?
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No luck sorry :/
The cam I wanted to use for this kinda died and I gave up searching for a solution after that.
I like the one that carjoying sells. I did not buy from them but have the same model.
https://www.carjoying.com/car-accessories/dvr-camera.html
It works great to attach to the back of your rear view mirror because of the shape of the body. I have mind there and the wires go up into the trim and you can't even see that it is there.
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I like the one that carjoying sells. I did not buy from them but have the same model.
https://www.carjoying.com/car-accessories/dvr-camera.html
It works great to attach to the back of your rear view mirror because of the shape of the body. I have mind there and the wires go up into the trim and you can't even see that it is there.
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I installed that camera on my pumpkin 5.1 and I lost the audio in the Music app and Pandora. I installed the app IONROAD and that did not work well it keeps crashing because for reason it requires internet to work. I'll try this specific one from Pumpkin to see how it goes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/311374450638?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll take a look on that app for the DVR recording Caro.
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I installed that camera on my pumpkin 5.1 and I lost the audio in the Music app and Pandora. I installed the app IONROAD and that did not work well it keeps crashing because for reason it requires internet to work. I'll try this specific one from Pumpkin to see how it goes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/311374450638?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll take a look on that app for the DVR recording Caro.
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I connected a Logitech C910 webcam to my head unit instead of the crappy low-res camera that came with the unit.
Now I'm trying to find a decent app that will record in HD and save the files to an external SD card.
Autoboy works great, great video quality, but doesn't give me the option to record to the SD card, therefore it's useless for me.
CaroO doesn't seem to work at all with the C910, it connects to the OBD, but doesn't show the video (failed to initialize)
The stock Car Record app saves to the SD card, and sees the C910, but doesn't record in HD
Any suggestion for an app that will do what I want?