has anyone tried? and will it work?
raindizzle said:
has anyone tried? and will it work?
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Nothing like that will work without drivers. If you had linux drivers you might be able to make something work, but it would not be plug and play.
ske714 said:
Nothing like that will work without drivers. If you had linux drivers you might be able to make something work, but it would not be plug and play.
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what about those plug and play webcams with installed drivers on them already? shouldn't that work since it is both windows/linux compatible? just as the same how external hard drives will work with our archos, and that also have drivers installed in them. (both windows/linux compatible also)
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what about those plug and play webcams with installed drivers on them already? shouldn't that work since it is both windows/linux compatible? just as the same how external hard drives will work with our archos, and that also have drivers installed in them. (both windows/linux compatible also)
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Ive never seen one, so I don't know for sure. Hopefully someone else will chime in on that. If you have an a70, there is only limited power available from the usb port. 200ma I think. If you try one and it works, be sure and let us know.
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what about those plug and play webcams with installed drivers on them already? shouldn't that work since it is both windows/linux compatible? just as the same how external hard drives will work with our archos, and that also have drivers installed in them. (both windows/linux compatible also)
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Just an FYI hard drives and cameras do not usually have drivers installed on them.. For example windows uses a driver called usbstor.sys that usb drives must adhere to in order to work properly. Delete this file and all your lovely USB drives in windows will no longer work unless you installed some crazy 3rd party software..
See here for more info
Ok so I just realized that most apps are drivers within itself (correct?) to run basic functions for a specific hardware like say camera effect apps for the camera. So now here is an idea...since the motorola xoom has a stock camera app implemented on the tablet to run both the front camera and a switch to use the rear camera....wouldn't it be possible as a theory to use a plug and play external usb webcam with the archos tablet and install the motorola xooms camera app instead of the archos camera app to use to switch between the front camera and usb camera (being as a rear camera)?
does anyone know where I can get the motorola xoom camera app to download? I would like to try it myself if I can get a hold of that app and just by a cheapo plug and play cam for 6 bucks if no one else is willing to try it...
raindizzle said:
Ok so I just realized that most apps are drivers within itself (correct?) to run basic functions for a specific hardware like say camera effect apps for the camera. So now here is an idea...since the motorola xoom has a stock camera app implemented on the tablet to run both the front camera and a switch to use the rear camera....wouldn't it be possible as a theory to use a plug and play external usb webcam with the archos tablet and install the motorola xooms camera app instead of the archos camera app to use to switch between the front camera and usb camera (being as a rear camera)?
does anyone know where I can get the motorola xoom camera app to download? I would like to try it myself if I can get a hold of that app and just by a cheapo plug and play cam for 6 bucks if no one else is willing to try it...
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An app is not a driver. A driver basically is the interface between the hardware and the app. When an app interacts with hardware, it does so through the driver. That way a vendor can build hardware however they want, as long as they provide a driver that conforms to pre-established specifications so that the software provider can access it with standard commands. That's why the idea of a camera with built in drivers doesn't make sense. The software would not know to address the camera through the USB port. It needs a driver to address which would in turn address the hardware. Support for devices like thumb drives is built into the operating system, so you don't need a driver.
As has been pointed out, they don't have drivers preinstalled; rather they use protocols that are supported by the host operating system (Windows, Mac, etc) out of the box. The type of "plug and play" webcams you're talking about rely on the the universal WDM in Windows along with such protocols or frameworks as DirectShow, TWAIN, etc.
The point is, the host OS has to know how to talk to those plug-and-play webcams, not the other way around. So in the case of the Archos tablet, it would have to have the same support baked into it at the driver level. Which it doesn't.
So unless you're going to reverse-engineer those protocols and write your own Android driver, it's not gonna happen.
In the case of the Motorola Xoom camera app (or the camera app for any other device/phone for that matter), it's specifically coded to the camera chip used in that device, and has no chance of working with an external webcam. Just like it wouldn't work for the camera in my Evo phone, or anything else besides the Xoom. The only chance would be if it was a device that used the exact same camera chip hardware, but the chances of that are slim. Even devices made by the same manufacturer, such as the HTC Evo and the HTC Droid Incredible, use two different camera chips and drivers.
But.. if your usb camera is working with opensource linux drivers (like uvc driver) there is a high chance that it will work on android if someone compiles the missing kernel modules (aka drivers) like I did for dvb devices. AND THEN.. someone has to write an extended camera app which supports selecting different cameras
any advancements with this issue?
I have an archos 80 g9 8gb. I want to plug in my Sony video camera using a firwire to USB cable and an USB to micro adapter. I then want to use my tablet to broadcast on ustream.com. I am in a paranormal group, I use a night vision camera, therefore I need to figure out a way to do this. We currently use an apple laptop that constantly needs to be plugged in. Being able to use the tablet for this would a much better solution for a few reasons.
Has anyone found/made any drivers?
Would be really useful this. I'd donate.
I am in a similar boat as a few others here. I want to switch over to an Android tablet in my truck, but it's pretty large and the need of a rear view / back up camera is a must. During my past 48 hoursearch this is the most useful, and encouraging info that I could find. I am not a coder, but those who are can probably work with the source code I found on this site. I hope this helps us all. Maybe with the release of ICS the difficulty usb hosting for webcams won't require that much effort. Have a look
brain.cc.kogakuin.ac.jp/research/usb-e.html
I want to be able to plug a standard usb webcam "type" device into my A500.
I bought off a usb microscope off Ebay. It is recognized under windows xp - 7 as a usb hid device. It did not even come with a driver disk, since everything recognized it automagically. I tried it last night under 3 different linux distro's and they detected it with no issue.
Does anyone know of a way? It would be so much easier to carry the tablet with me, vs a laptop, not to mention much better battery life so I can be in the field longer without a recharge.
I think the A500 needs root for it to go into host mode. Do you have it rooted? I don't think I have heard of any webcam device working on Android with a simple plug and play, but who knows.
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I think the A500 needs root for it to go into host mode. Do you have it rooted? I don't think I have heard of any webcam device working on Android with a simple plug and play, but who knows.
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Oh yeah I'm rooted, running a custom rom. I'm not scared to get my hands dirty either if someone knows of a solution
Hello, I'm looking also to find a solution for a webcam. But no lock so far.
Once I tried one on a older tablet running 1.6 and it worked but as it had the drivers build in loaded but I had to use a special camera apk.
So I think we need to have two things (maybe this is obvious for you)
1) the correct drivers loaded (we need to find them)
2) The correct app that let us choose the usb camera as I think they enumerate starting as 0... Or can create one
But to me the hardest part is finding the correct drivers.
Could you share the a link to that ebay microscope ? I might get one of the same so we can play with the same thing.
Thx
Does the EVO do this or would a ROM work I have an APP to control my DSLR camera. When I open it it says your device does not support USB host.
anyone know this?
Discussion of similar nature here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727440
thanks looking into it now.
Last thing I heard was it is not possible with the evo.
hello , been trying to look around the forums to see if anyone has tried to get a usb internet adapter to work , im not a builder of roms but just wondering why no one has tried to build a rom with that app, right now im using connectifyme program for pc and tablet , but i wanna be able to shut pc down and use the adapter instead, tryin to cut back on electricity use.
thanks for your help .
Guess not, seems like that would be figured out since most tablets have full size usb ports.
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Good day everyone.
I've searched the site for any posts made about this subject but couldn't find any...so here it goes.
I've been using my Tab 2 for a while as a way to 'stream' the pictures I make with my Canon-camera to the display. Tethering as you may call it. I use a USB cable...not WiFi
The app I use is RYC Lite on a official Android 4.0.3 rom.
Since I upgraded the Tab to the official Android 4.1.2 rom it doesn't work anymore. I tried other apps but they won't recognize my camera.
When I connect the camera to the tablet it does say USB Connector Connected but that's all.
With 4.0.3 it used to say that it found a 450D, 50D or other DSLR that I connected before I would get a pop up with the question which app I would like to open.
I really don't know what's wrong...don't know if there are any missing or special camera detecting drivers which need to be installed first.
I hope someone can help me solve this problem cause it was a real handy feature.
Kind regard
LJ