[Q] Why are there no slim roms? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This is a quick little question. I haven't been able to find a ROM that was just a smooth minimal debloated ROM. X-Note is full of a tonne of crap I don't need and it doesn't look like someone has made a 'stock close to AOSP' ROM. No offense meant, they're just not for me. Anyone have any good news? I might have to make one then...

andjohn said:
This is a quick little question. I haven't been able to find a ROM that was just a smooth minimal debloated ROM. X-Note is full of a tonne of crap I don't need and it doesn't look like someone has made a 'stock close to AOSP' ROM. No offense meant, they're just not for me. Anyone have any good news? I might have to make one then...
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Use debloater on a normal stock ROM, or just flash Cyanogen. Cyanogen is as slim as your girlfriend in thirty saunas.
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Try Jackyaway. I have a pretty decent battery life on it. I also remove the bloatwares using Note 3 Cleaner by CoOoL_BoY

AldrichDSaints said:
Try Jackyaway. I have a pretty decent battery life on it. I also remove the bloatwares using Note 3 Cleaner by CoOoL_BoY
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Thanks guys, I did the same but I debloated manually. I think there'd be a place for an ASOP feeling ROM. Perhaps I'll make a pack or something in the future.

andjohn said:
Thanks guys, I did the same but I debloated manually. I think there'd be a place for an ASOP feeling ROM. Perhaps I'll make a pack or something in the future.
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I would suggest flashing alexndrs Rom. I have manually debloated this, very heavily.. all with root explorer followed by a data wipe. Over 850mb free in system.
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Cyanogenmod is very slim and has the potential to be great if they iron out the bugs.
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celderic said:
I would suggest flashing alexndrs Rom. I have manually debloated this, very heavily.. all with root explorer followed by a data wipe. Over 850mb free in system.
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Hello, mind to share it?
I am also trying to manually delete as much as possible.
All I need is the camera, the clock and the popup music player.
All other things could go, including the launcher as I have many paid apps for the several tasks.
I also do not use the pen.
Tried slim roms and debloater, also cm based ones but want to have the samsung base.
Thanks,
Best regards
Richard

AmberLynn said:
Hello, mind to share it?
I am also trying to manually delete as much as possible.
All I need is the camera, the clock and the popup music player.
All other things could go, including the launcher as I have many paid apps for the several tasks.
I also do not use the pen.
Tried slim roms and debloater, also cm based ones but want to have the samsung base.
Thanks,
Best regards
Richard
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Id rather not upload over 1gb, took me about an hour on the phone to get it set up like this, Trial and error.
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andjohn said:
Thanks guys, I did the same but I debloated manually. I think there'd be a place for an ASOP feeling ROM. Perhaps I'll make a pack or something in the future.
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Most of the time I also debloat manually but I give a try on the note 3 cleaner of cooolboy since most of the apps that can be debloat on his mod is just the same as my debloated apps.
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AmberLynn said:
Hello, mind to share it?
I am also trying to manually delete as much as possible.
All I need is the camera, the clock and the popup music player.
All other things could go, including the launcher as I have many paid apps for the several tasks.
I also do not use the pen.
Tried slim roms and debloater, also cm based ones but want to have the samsung base.
Thanks,
Best regards
Richard
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How about before installing the custom rom that you will use, check the apps that will be installed on the zip file. Extract it first and check on the system/data. You can delete some apps but be sure you know what to delete.

debloating threads are really user unfriendly and have nearly no research on.
A lot of apps that are removed cause incompatibility with other apps. You can remove the non-sense My Magazine, and the built-in Email will go havoc, and you cant just offer an alternative mail client in that case.
If somebody slimmed down the stock firmwares, that would do a lot of ppl favours.

celderic said:
Id rather not upload over 1gb, took me about an hour on the phone to get it set up like this, Trial and error.
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Hello, maybe you could just post the content of your system directories (file listings, especially app, priv-app and framework)?
Thanks,
best regards
Amber

AmberLynn said:
Hello, maybe you could just post the content of your system directories (file listings, especially app, priv-app and framework)?
Thanks,
best regards
Amber
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How is this possible without manually typing out 175 - 200 apk names ? No way i have the patience for typing them all out haha.
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I think the reason there are no "slim" roms is because you will lose some of the features that make the Note range unique. Touchwiz is vital to those features.
By going AOSP - it will basically be a big Nexus.
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actually, there are cyanogen mod for n9005. but you will loose samsung apps and its feature such as s note etc.
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There are alternatives such as Papyrus instead of S-Note (I like it better). I think the only reasons this phone is unique is the Pen (works in CM) and the size. So, a slim ROM makes sense as there's a lot of crap that Samsung adds that is not very useful.

I am using this ROM, like the OP I wanted all that crap of my phone. So found this here. I'll let the thread speak for itself...

I'd love to have a ROM like that as well. It would be especially great if you could decide for yourself what you install. Basically I want it as slim as possible so that the OS itself runs without errors but I don't want basic stuff like email, calculator and all that stuff either because the stock apps are usually crap compared to apps from the play store. I use a different calendar, email, calculator, music player, video player... so I just want a clean base OS to build on without all that stuff I never use anyways.

XCPTNL said:
I'd love to have a ROM like that as well. It would be especially great if you could decide for yourself what you install. Basically I want it as slim as possible so that the OS itself runs without errors but I don't want basic stuff like email, calculator and all that stuff either because the stock apps are usually crap compared to apps from the play store. I use a different calendar, email, calculator, music player, video player... so I just want a clean base OS to build on without all that stuff I never use anyways.
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That would be nice but some applications rely upon others so you cannot remove some stuff because other things won't work.

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[Q] Some questions about installing a custom ROM on my Nexus 4

I know there might be so many threads asking questions about Custom ROMs and mine is going to be no different.
I have few questions about Custom ROMs & Moreover, one of my good friends has been trying to convince me to install a Custom ROM on my Nexus 4. He has done the same on his Nexus 4 and is really happy with it.
First of all, what advantages does a custom ROM has over stock ROM? (a little bit of details would be really really appreciated)
Second, if I am going to install one, I would really love to know what options I have & how much good & bad they are.
At last, I would welcome any other suggestions or tips.
Hope you will have a good day!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180999
That will help.
Basically all of the ROMs, except that Optimus G port, will be fully functional. Your task will be to try a few, figure out which options you want and decide on the one you want. We cannot tell you what is good for you.
Start with Paranoid Android, CM and AOKP if you want loads of features.
My approach towards custom ROM is more about getting better software on my phone. With Nexus4, you can be assured that you will get the latest software always, but Better? Not always. CustomROM follow non-traditional approach avoiding bloatwares (not any for nexus I believe), optimizing for the performance and/or battery life, providing more functions and S/W upgrades.
I haven't flashed custom ROM yet on my Nexus 4, because simply I don't have any reason for it. I am happy with stock android, with battery life & with the performance of my handset.
Apart from all this, there is one more aspect,'Personal interest'. If you have that, go ahead, there are plenty of good options waiting for your attention on XDA
This will help as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284384&highlight=rom+advantage
2-3 features I absolutely love which will probably never make into stock roms are -
Sweep2wake - buttons have limited life, and because this Nexus 4 doesn't have warranty in India, it matters a lot. I just sweep on the screen to activate it. And tap on a notification to lock it.
Pie Controls (I have completely disabled the navigation bar. I have a full 4.7 inch content screen)
CM Profiles - can't appreciate this enough. Very useful to filter out notifications during night when you want minimal distribution.
Keeping features aside, I have over clocked the cpu to 1.7 Ghz.
And Linaro patches for tool chain with which the rom is compiled, improves smoothness and battery life.
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ankurk said:
I know there might be so many threads asking questions about Custom ROMs and mine is going to be no different.
I have few questions about Custom ROMs & Moreover, one of my good friends has been trying to convince me to install a Custom ROM on my Nexus 4. He has done the same on his Nexus 4 and is really happy with it.
First of all, what advantages does a custom ROM has over stock ROM? (a little bit of details would be really really appreciated)
Second, if I am going to install one, I would really love to know what options I have & how much good & bad they are.
At last, I would welcome any other suggestions or tips.
Hope you will have a good day!
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If you decide to install ParanoidAndroid you get customizable navbar and notification bar. You can set the heigh of the navbar and also the backgroundcolor and iconcolor for both bars. PA have HybridSettings. You can display the calendar app on your smartphone like it would be on a tablet.
I tried CM and PA and i'm now on PA because of the customisations and the better implemented pie. Both are very stable and the battery is for me like with stock.
But there are a lot of ROMs and like already said you have to find "your" ROM
First of all, I apologize for replying late. Secondly, thanks for your answers, they helped me a lot. I actually have one more question,
I want as much as customization and little bit more battery life, which ROM is really good for that?
Moreover, is there any comprehensive list of custom ROMs for Nexus 4?
Once you go custom rom, you will never return to stock rom. Go for it. You won't regret it.
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ankurk said:
First of all, I apologize for replying late. Secondly, thanks for your answers, they helped me a lot. I actually have one more question,
I want as much as customization and little bit more battery life, which ROM is really good for that?
Moreover, is there any comprehensive list of custom ROMs for Nexus 4?
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Battery life is similar between most roms. Custom kernels play a larger role in battery.
ROMs based on AOKP generally have the most customization settings. These include liquid smooth, carbon, etc...
Heres a directory of roms for the n4, but its best to just go through the Android Development/Original Android Development section and look for one you like.
badboy47 said:
Once you go custom rom, you will never return to stock rom. Go for it. You won't regret it.
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I beg to differ
I downgraded my GNex back to 4.1. It lags so badly with 4.2
exb0 said:
I beg to differ
I downgraded my GNex back to 4.1. It lags so badly with 4.2
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my gnex flies on 4.2.2.
simms22 said:
my gnex flies on 4.2.2.
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You must be doing something right then! On CM10.1 , after about a week of usage, it would take me about a minute to start up ANY apps. It's ridiculous. Oh well.
exb0 said:
You must be doing something right then! On CM10.1 , after about a week of usage, it would take me about a minute to start up ANY apps. It's ridiculous. Oh well.
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i run rasbean/rassaber with the trinity kernel. using the phone(not benchmarking), its hard to tell if its any slower than my nexus 4.
simms22 said:
i run rasbean/rassaber with the trinity kernel. using the phone(not benchmarking), its hard to tell if its any slower than my nexus 4.
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hmm, I'll give it a try. It feels a LOT slower than my N4. Not sure why..
exb0 said:
hmm, I'll give it a try. It feels a LOT slower than my N4. Not sure why..
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if you try it, let me know how it goes for you, i think youll like it.
simms22 said:
if you try it, let me know how it goes.
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Perhaps in awhile. My girlfriend is using it and she's a huge PA fan. She wiped my phone without me knowing to flash PA.. :C
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exb0 said:
Perhaps in awhile. My girlfriend is using it and she's a huge PA fan. She wiped my phone without me knowing to flash PA.. :C
Sent from Halo.
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ha
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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g2uzer said:
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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Google wallet will warn you. Others would stay.
No, I keep it on the phone or my computer.
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g2uzer said:
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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Rooting does not take away anything, except DRM keys.
You can always download factory image and flash it using fast boot. Factory image is available at Google.
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[Q] deleting stock apps

I got a new Nexus 4, from my girl actually :good: But I want to clean as much space as possiable by rooting it. But when I rooted my old LG P990 the thing got slow. I don't want this to happen to this phone becuase it is such a nice phone and very fast now.
If I do root, can I delete these apps without any problems to the phone: (ex. slow, other apps not working, etc..)
Currents
Earth
email
google+
hangouts
local
messenger
movie studio
news/weather
youtube
Basic daydreams
android live wallpapers
bubbles
google korean keyboard (can I install Chinese? I am living in china studying Chinese)
Phase Beam
Quick Office
live wallpaper picker
music visualization wallpapers
Thank you. I am loving this new phone. I swear i would never touch anything LG after the P990. But the girl got it for me and I fell in love. But after this phone I still won't buy another LG. Sumsong 4 is my dream still...
It won't make a difference in speed but when a OTA update comes out it will not install
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Rooting your phone doesn't make it slow. You might as well just flash a custom ROM over it because when a new OTA comes and your girl accepts the OTA, it'll probably fail with you deleting apps from the /system/app/ folder. I recommend Carbon Rom with Franco Kernel (kernel matters more than the ROM in terms of speediness)
If you want to keep it stock... then yes removing those apps are fine.
If you want the Chinese Keyboard then just download https://play.google.com/store/apps/...29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC5pbnB1dG1ldGhvZC5waW55aW4iXQ..
Why remove YouTube? YouTube is awesome and takes rarely any space.
zephiK said:
Rooting your phone doesn't make it slow. You might as well just flash a custom ROM over it because when a new OTA comes and your girl accepts the OTA, it'll probably fail with you deleting apps from the /system/app/ folder. I recommend Carbon Rom with Franco Kernel (kernel matters more than the ROM in terms of speediness)
If you want to keep it stock... then yes removing those apps are fine.
If you want the Chinese Keyboard then just download https://play.google.com/store/apps/...29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC5pbnB1dG1ldGhvZC5waW55aW4iXQ..
Why remove YouTube? YouTube is awesome and takes rarely any space.
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Thanks for the help.
How can I delete them if I don't root? I am guessing I can't as I couldn't on my P990.
Also, about the OTA. So if I root, I will lost the abilty to update over the air?! Wow, didn't know that. That is a nice feature as I don't have a computer, I have the Surface RT and whenever I want to update or re-root my P990 I have to borrow a friends laptop. Its a PETA!
I don't watch contant on my phone or stream anything as I can't afford big data plans. If I am around wifi and need youtube, I go to my Surface RT, easier to search, etc. I don't consume content with phones. They are a tool for business for me. Plus youtube is blocked in China...
Thank you!
lgnationrc said:
Thanks for the help.
How can I delete them if I don't root? I am guessing I can't as I couldn't on my P990.
Also, about the OTA. So if I root, I will lost the abilty to update over the air?! Wow, didn't know that. That is a nice feature as I don't have a computer, I have the Surface RT and whenever I want to update or re-root my P990 I have to borrow a friends laptop. Its a PETA!
I don't watch contant on my phone or stream anything as I can't afford big data plans. If I am around wifi and need youtube, I go to my Surface RT, easier to search, etc. I don't consume content with phones. They are a tool for business for me. Plus youtube is blocked in China...
Thank you!
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It isn't root that will not allow you to flash the OTA. Its the removal of stock apps.
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You can also always revert the root, without loosing anything...
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El Daddy said:
It isn't root that will not allow you to flash the OTA. Its the removal of stock apps.
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ok. I was looking at the apps tab under settings and I noticed you can disable the stock apps. Do many people do this? I assume this will stop the app from working and not allow it to use the internet, correct?
Also, if I disable the ones listed above would that screw up other google apps? Will it make the phone a little faster? Maybe not noticable, but possiable?
Yeah disabling them means just that. Disabling Google apps may break things. I doubt disabling apps will make the phone faster. Its pretty fast the way it is.
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El Daddy said:
Yeah disabling them means just that. Disabling Google apps may break things. I doubt disabling apps will make the phone faster. Its pretty fast the way it is.
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Yeah, the N4 is not a Samsung device packed with bloatware. There is very less gain in wiping system apps.
gee2012 said:
Yeah, the N4 is not a Samsung device packed with bloatware. There is very less gain in wiping system apps.
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Agreed although I do disagree with the bloatware part to a certain extent. Google does bloat their phones with Google apps such as: Google+ etc. I personally don't use it but it comes shipped. But yeah when compared to the other devices it doesn't have carrier apps or any Samsung app store or whatever.
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[Q] Sustitute apps

I'm waiting for my i9505 and I really don't like the Samsung Bloatware (I will use CM 10.1 or another good AOSP ROM or even Android 4.3) but there are some interesting apps that might be useful for me, like some camera features and some air gestures, and a nice app for the ir blaster.
I understand that the stock camera has been ported to any custom ROM so it wouldn't be a problem with those features.
So what apps could you recommend me to replace the stock Samsung apps?
Thanks in upfront.
soyusado said:
I'm waiting for my i9505 and I really don't like the Samsung Bloatware (I will use CM 10.1 or another good AOSP ROM or even Android 4.3) but there are some interesting apps that might be useful for me, like some camera features and some air gestures, and a nice app for the ir blaster.
I understand that the stock camera has been ported to any custom ROM so it wouldn't be a problem with those features.
So what apps could you recommend me to replace the stock Samsung apps?
Thanks in upfront.
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Hi,
Some of those apps require TouchWiz.
So, you are going to have to wait till they get some Dev magic to run on Aosp.
Thanks man.
I'm aware that you can't run Samsung apps in a third party version of the main the interface.
But I want to know if you, already S4 users, know about some apps that are similar, not the same or with the same features of Stock Samsung apps.
For example, I know if you get a call and you place your phone face down the ringtone stops or if you are getting a call and you move your phone towards your ear it automatically answers.
That kind of features I'd like and I really want a good remote control app, your suggestions are very much appreciated.
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soyusado said:
Thanks man.
I'm aware that you can't run Samsung apps in a third party version of the main the interface.
But I want to know if you, already S4 users, know about some apps that are similar, not the same or with the same features of Stock Samsung apps.
For example, I know if you get a call and you place your phone face down the ringtone stops or if you are getting a call and you move your phone towards your ear it automatically answers.
That kind of features I'd like and I really want a good remote control app, your suggestions are very much appreciated.
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Hi,
I understand what you are saying.
Personally, I do not use the apps you are seeking.
So, I have never had to seek out alternative versions on the market.
That does not mean that they do not exist.
You may have to use the search function to see what is available.
Sent telepathically from my S4
malybru said:
Hi,
I understand what you are saying.
Personally, I do not use the apps you are seeking.
So, I have never had to seek out alternative versions on the market.
That does not mean that they do not exist.
You may have to use the search function to see what is available.
Sent telepathically from my S4
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I found this remote control app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317629, hope it works with PACman ROM.
Thanks anyway, I'll post here if I find an interesting app.
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might make a 4.4 rom for the p600 if anyone is interested

there isnt much development being done for this device lately. ive only ever built a few roms for myself, but if there is enough demand and i can get some features that people want, i could get in the game. i might need a little help and it might be a little slow for releases though, as im still in school. anyone interested?
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there isnt much development being done for this device lately. ive only ever built a few roms for myself, but if there is enough demand and i can get some features that people want, i could get in the game. i might need a little help and it might be a little slow for releases though, as im still in school. anyone interested?
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Count me in, I'm interested.
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any features that you are looking for? right now im thinking i could do a big aroma installer thing with all of the stock apps and whatnot, but idk what else
dougiefresh181 said:
any features that you are looking for? right now im thinking i could do a big aroma installer thing with all of the stock apps and whatnot, but idk what else
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I don't have any requests, yet. I usually modify roms, to my liking anyway, but I'm definitely interested in your rom, and I'll help anyway I can.
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Im interested, too
What I would like to see are some features I know from cyanogenmod:
Close apps with long press back key
Customizable pull down menu
Screenshots via on/off menu
Maybe a better music player
I have lots of ideas
Very interested! How about a dark theme? All black backgrounds instead of the ugly touchwiz white???????????
Its realy not that easy to change from wihte to black BG. Also tekst switch needed.and the fun part comes now...basicly for best result needed for ALL systemapps.
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As i said guys, im new to this, but il, try my best. It might be a while before i get all of your features in, but it will happene eventually. Ill start it soon :fingers-crossed:
SM-P601 If you interested ​
i only have a p600, sorry
A good minimal rom debloated and with just a few tweaks sounds perfect!
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What about active display, could it be implemented "natively" like some aosp roms (Omni's is superb) ?
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A fully debloated kk-Rom was great with a good tweaked Kernel with OC/UV-features. Than the ability to chance the screen-resolution to fullHD for better gaming-performance like in SDBAGS Cromi-X Rom for Asus tf701t. ES File-Explorer, Xposed Framework as system apps. Than the old webkit-android-browser(aosp) with bookmark-sync, like in Scroslers Clean-Rom.
And I think there is a lot more to make KK better.
sorry guys, project is cancelled. hanspampel made a 4.4 kat rom which is almost exactly what i would have done. i highly recommend checking it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725121
i might take up the cause again if i have time, but im not sure when that will be

To Root or Not To Root?

Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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It depends on what are you trying to achieve with rooting.
Cons:
- you lose warranty
- if you don't know what you're doing with a rooted phone, you can cause more damage than good
- if you install malware and accidentaly grant it superuser (administrative) privileges, you can lose sensitive data or someone can mess up your phone
Pros:
- you can block ads on a system level
- you can remove unnecessary apps (bloatware, preinstalled carrier apps etc)
- you can visually modify your phone or add useful modules with Xposed framework
- you can save battery by hibernating apps you do not need to have in the background with Greenify
- you can flash a custom recovery which will allow you to make nandroid images (exact snapshots of your system which you can restore in case of problems)
- you can backup and restore apps and their data with Titanium Backup
- you can install custom kernels which allow overclock to make your phone's CPU even faster, or install custom ROMs which bring new looks and stuff (Cloudyfa's ROMs look nice) or revert to a pure Android experience with AOSP ROMs (like CyanogenMod)
Bottomline: if you don't need any of these things, you don't need to root your phone.
fernievidal said:
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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i always root my new android devices, too many pros in rooting
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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You can always go back to stock, remove root, remove custom recovery and re-lock boatloader!
I used to root all my phones but with these new phones I'm finding I don't need too.
The most I need is a God set of replacement launchers and those are everywhere.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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It isn't worth it. There are no quality ROMs for this phone that work as well as the stock ROM. They make it look different and maybe that is cool to show off to your friends, but at the end of the day not a single ROM works as well as stock.
This phone is amazing, but was an absolute failure for the ROM market. Most of them are cobbled together, buggy, lacking features and not really any faster or better.
A ROM should make the phone better, and on many phones they can and do. But on this phone, none of them make it better.
Stick with stock, IMHO, especially if you are worried about your warranty.
If you want to customize how the phone looks and feels, there are a dozen really nice aftermarket launchers that you can install and completely transform how it looks and feels, without jacking anything up or risking a warranty issue...
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kolembo said:
I used to root all my phones but with these new phones I'm finding I don't need too.
The most I need is a God set of replacement launchers and those are everywhere.
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Exactly. You can disable 90% of the bloat without root, right from the App Manager, and not have to worry about it hosing a future OTA.
SquireSCA said:
It isn't worth it. There are no quality ROMs for this phone that work as well as the stock ROM. They make it look different and maybe that is cool to show off to your friends, but at the end of the day not a single ROM works as well as stock.
This phone is amazing, but was an absolute failure for the ROM market. Most of them are cobbled together, buggy, lacking features and not really any faster or better.
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Must be a d802 issue d800 is fine..
khaytsus said:
Must be a d802 issue d800 is fine..
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I don't have that, I am on VZW.
I have tried about every ROM out there. I think that CM dropped the phone, there is no dev work really going on there. They all are buggy, none of them truly work as well as stock, etc...
I like ROMs when they actually make something better. Doing ROMs just for the sake of using a ROM, to me seems silly if they take away features, cause the phone to hang or reboot, don't give a performance improvement, cause volume or BT issues, etc...
When you can debloat a stock unrooted phone in less than 2 minutes, and install a launcher that radically changes how the phone looks and feels and lets you tailor it to your idea of how it should look, while keeping your warranty and not having to worry about not getting OTA's, it just makes sense to keep it stock...
SquireSCA said:
I don't have that, I am on VZW.
I have tried about every ROM out there. I think that CM dropped the phone, there is no dev work really going on there. They all are buggy, none of them truly work as well as stock, etc...
I like ROMs when they actually make something better. Doing ROMs just for the sake of using a ROM, to me seems silly if they take away features, cause the phone to hang or reboot, don't give a performance improvement, cause volume or BT issues, etc...
When you can debloat a stock unrooted phone in less than 2 minutes, and install a launcher that radically changes how the phone looks and feels and lets you tailor it to your idea of how it should look, while keeping your warranty and not having to worry about not getting OTA's, it just makes sense to keep it stock...
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I just bought a Verizon G2 on Swappa, so I did the towelroot thing (can't post links yet but I followed a guide posted on wonderhowto . com on how to root with towelroot).
I am basically fine with stock, just wanted to be able to mod it a little bit. For example, I've already changed the softkeys to my liking.
What I don't understand is the recovery/backup apps that I need to run, and in what order. For example, do I need to run AutoRec and/or TWRP if I am NOT going to install any custom roms? I'm not sure I completely understand this step of the process, or the order.
Basically, I'd like to install some mods, the camera mod, sound mods, ect, and would like a way to "restore" my phone (go back to its current state). Warranty is not an issue for me since I bought the phone used.
fernievidal said:
Hi,
I am new here and I have some doubts on wether to root my 3 months old LG G2 d802. Can someone orient me what are the pros and cons, how to root and what are the things that I can do once rooted?
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There are tons of things that you can do with a rooted phone.
When i first got my G2 5 months ago the first thing i did was root.
Here is a list of what i have now.
Rooted with TowelRoot (One click rooting APP)
Installed custom recovery(TWRP) with AutoRec
Stock Rom (AOSP Theme) found HERE
ROOT NEEDED:
Xposed Framework
G2 Xposed mods:
transparent nav bar and notif panel (no shadows)
4th nav bar icon (recent apps)
removed carrier lable on lock screen
removed some notification icons to clean t up
long press menu button to lock phone
bleed immersive mode
long press volume up button for flashlight (while locked)
OTHER Xposed Mods
Instagram downloader(ads download option to instagram app)
wifi password viewer(show password of saved wifi connections)
extended power menu(allows to reboot in recovery and other neet features)
google play music(will open play music to the specific tab you desire)
Other things
Native Hotspot Hack (free wifi tether)
Screen cast screen recorder
This is all i have for now because i am trying to keep it simple.
There are many other things i did not mention that can be done with a rooted phone
Not to mention all the awesome roms you can install.
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fernievidal said:
Im curious about this ROM thingy I thought I'd try to root for customization. But I'm still worried about the warranty. Anyway, I'll think about it. It does have a lot of pros but the cons can't be desregarded. Thanks man.
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You can always factory reset to show like never been rooted.

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