Hello XDA!
So, I've recently gotten into rooting and custom ROMS, kernels etc with my SM-N9005.
And as you might know, this can result in having to take your battery out and in a lot.
And I've noticed that when I first got the phone, there used to be way more "force" from the 4 pins that connects the battery.
So is it a bad thing to take the battery out too much of your phone? I kind of liked the "force", but it's mostly gone now.
TjabbyD said:
Hello XDA!
So, I've recently gotten into rooting and custom ROMS, kernels etc with my SM-N9005.
And as you might know, this can result in having to take your battery out and in a lot.
And I've noticed that when I first got the phone, there used to be way more "force" from the 4 pins that connects the battery.
So is it a bad thing to take the battery out too much of your phone? I kind of liked the "force", but it's mostly gone now.
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Firstly...
why do you need to plug out your battery too much, just for rooting, flashing recovery, and flashing custom ROM ?
My battery still intact on its place since D1, though I've just rooted few weeks back, and do flashing custom ROM quite a lot during these past few weeks, but I never plug out my battery.
So basically, why do you have to do that ?
Basically, everything which is "forced" is always hurt and not good if you understand what I mean. hehehe
But, so long as your battery now is still working correctly, try not to plug out so many times, unless you really really in need to do that.
And if your reason is flashing custom ROM, no way man. Please follow the instructions on each custom ROM you flashed, for sure, there shouldn't be any step asking you to plug out battery.
Cheers.
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Hi All
I've had my Dezire Z since launch and it's still on the original software (1.34.405.5) and is perm rooted using visionary (pretty much since visionary first came out and so simple to use). The only thing I really wanted root for really was to be able to use SetCPU to underclock the phone when the screen was off to give better battery life as initially it was terrible!
However, last week the loud speaker died on me, anything that uses it (sat nav, music, ringtones etc) is really really badly distorted and totally unuseable.
I've spoken to HTC who suggested a factory reset (which I'm 99.9% certain won't help), and if that doesn't fix it, then I'll have to get it picked up for repair.
I'm fairly happy about backing up everything etc and unrooting using visionary, so my phone will be fine for sending off.
However I imagine they'll update to the newest version of the software, which If I understand correctly is not rootable? Is that right? I've read so many rooting threads and, to be honest, have been left somewhat baffled by it all!
If it comes back with the latest software, is there any hope for me to be able to root or flash to a difference (still Sense based) firmware?
Any help/advice very much appreciated!
Valve
valve90210 said:
which If I understand correctly is not rootable?
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No, it is not true. I update my Desire Z to latest software, then downgrade easly to low version of 1.3x to get SuperCID, so it will not be a problem, becouse you can downgrade any time and put rooted firmware.
The problem will be if you get firmware, that was not yet published, but even for this it will be possible to do something.
Oh that's good, though I have to say all the guides I've read about downgrading etc have left me rather confused.
I don't really have a huge need for root, except as I mentioned for running setCPU for battery life....
valve90210 said:
Oh that's good, though I have to say all the guides I've read about downgrading etc have left me rather confused.
I don't really have a huge need for root, except as I mentioned for running setCPU for battery life....
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I have also have root on my phone for setCPU, but I dont observe any changes with cpu management and without, so I decide, that I dont need it such, and upgrade to newest software without root.
iDAREK said:
I have also have root on my phone for setCPU, but I dont observe any changes with cpu management and without, so I decide, that I dont need it such, and upgrade to newest software without root.
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How do you find the battery lasts on the newest software? on the original software it was really terrible until I started using setCPU...even now it's not brilliant...
It definately increased the battery life for me,I'm on a stock pre-rooted GB rom.
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Oh that's good, though I have to say all the guides I've read about downgrading etc have left me rather confused.
I don't really have a huge need for root, except as I mentioned for running setCPU for battery life....
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when i was 1.34 i never had any battery issues. if i left it alone it will last a week or more. but sadly i cant live without music and reading my txt/email, ive managed to get 6 days battery life. but this only happened after 2weeks since i bought the device.
i had to double charge the phone, charge the phone till green when its on then unplug the charger then charge the phone till green when phone is off. only had to do that method once.
better off flashing to stock so its rooted and s-on. It really begrudgingly did this because they will plug it in when it goes back for repair.
I just got a stock rom off the net and they didn't update or downgrade it, they literally just wiped the user data which I have been told is protocol.
I hate to make a thread like this, but it seems that this is kinda of those "everyone already knows this" or similar question that does not get brought up.
Anyway:
I decided to revert from genokolar's CM7 to stock Froyo firmware (functionality and hopefully battery life reasons, just one was enough of reason)
I found a update firmware in huawei's site for 2.2.2 Froyo, it was two apps in dload folder I had to boot into volume up+down+power boot mode, prior to this I had wiped EVERYTHING I could in clockworkmod, and after the update and few reboots, the system seems to be in working order. Even my recovery image is replaced with stock one now.
I know the CM7 port in question had some kernel modifications - especially ones affecting to CPU clocks, that in hand may be stuff affecting battery in negative way, and also imposing possible problems with stock system - does the stock 2.2.2 update also write in the stock kernel? If yes, thank you, I will be relieved. if not, then I need to figure some back plan.
P.s. waiting official gingerbread as is everyone else. Bug reports from many people about the official beta was one reason I went to stock froyo for now.
Thanks!
Yes it does. Or it has for me.
If I understand you correctly, you got worse battery-life with CM7 than you had with stock firmware?
I nearly doubled the battery-life going from stock f/w to oxygen, right now on MIUI and on my second day without charging
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Yes it does. Or it has for me.
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Thanks. If so I then do not need to find way to install the kernel from huawei downloads just to know will the battery life increase.
HFZenon said:
If I understand you correctly, you got worse battery-life with CM7 than you had with stock firmware?
I nearly doubled the battery-life going from stock f/w to oxygen, right now on MIUI and on my second day without charging
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Well, It is combination of functional issues, general feel that the system may not work like intended, and to experiment will the battery life increase. Generally I looked the ROM selection for while but there seemed to be quite wide array of bug reports for each what I did not want to buy into. Unless there is some widely accepted strong recommendation for system - thanks for the input though.
Battery life can have a huge difference between phones. Also how much you use it has effect. I have better battery life in stock too i have used all rom except the new ics ones.
Sent from my battlefield 3 using origin.
julle131 said:
Battery life can have a huge difference between phones. Also how much you use it has effect. I have better battery life in stock too i have used all rom except the new ics ones.
Sent from my battlefield 3 using origin.
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Yeah, from tests I hear if something, battery life in Hussein is quite great, at least in stock manner.
And my first problem basically was first night after installing CM7 and leaving phone, screen off idle, not charging, and during that 6 or so hours of idle, with wifi and connections turned off, my battery had been drained to half when I woke up and checked the clock.
Thanks tho. Not to say the ROM development are bad, opposite, they bring what people want, and already done better work at customized gingerbread builds for this device than Hussein with their betas. To me the battery life just is more crucial than the features of both 2.3 and the customized ROM.
also, thanks.
-sent from the darn x5, in lying position and tired as what
Hi everybody
It may be a noob question, but i've wondered if it's actually necessary to charge the device to 100% before flashing a new rom. I've flashed many roms, but I always waited untill it was fully charged. Back in the days when I had my galaxy S, I've read that you should charge it to 100% before flashing a new rom or else the battery would be calibrated badly.
I know it surely doesn't harm the device to fully charge it but it's a pain in the a** if you do it everytime you try out a new rom.
So is it still necessary to charge the device fully before flashing a new ROM?
Thanks for answering
DeGygii
DeGygii said:
Hi everybody
It may be a noob question, but i've wondered if it's actually necessary to charge the device to 100% before flashing a new rom. I've flashed many roms, but I always waited untill it was fully charged. Back in the days when I had my galaxy S, I've read that you should charge it to 100% before flashing a new rom or else the battery would be calibrated badly.
I know it surely doesn't harm the device to fully charge it but it's a pain in the a** if you do it everytime you try out a new rom.
So is it still necessary to charge the device fully before flashing a new ROM?
Thanks for answering
DeGygii
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in my years of flashing, i dont think that ive ever flashed when i was at 100%, and ive never heard of the need to be at 100%. id never be able to flash on the spot. oppositely, i know ive flashed countless amount of times while under 10%.
DeGygii said:
Hi everybody
It may be a noob question, but i've wondered if it's actually necessary to charge the device to 100% before flashing a new rom. I've flashed many roms, but I always waited untill it was fully charged. Back in the days when I had my galaxy S, I've read that you should charge it to 100% before flashing a new rom or else the battery would be calibrated badly.
I know it surely doesn't harm the device to fully charge it but it's a pain in the a** if you do it everytime you try out a new rom.
So is it still necessary to charge the device fully before flashing a new ROM?
Thanks for answering
DeGygii
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You don't need to be fully charged each to flash. Just make sure it's above at least 50-60 percent of power left just to be safe.
simms22 said:
in my years of flashing, i dont think that ive ever flashed when i was at 100%, and ive never heard of the need to be at 100%. id never be able to flash on the spot. oppositely, i know ive flashed countless amount of times while under 10%.
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Same here. I've also flashed a radio while at 6%, I guess I like to live dangerously haha
DeGygii said:
Hi everybody
It may be a noob question, but i've wondered if it's actually necessary to charge the device to 100% before flashing a new rom. I've flashed many roms, but I always waited untill it was fully charged. Back in the days when I had my galaxy S, I've read that you should charge it to 100% before flashing a new rom or else the battery would be calibrated badly.
I know it surely doesn't harm the device to fully charge it but it's a pain in the a** if you do it everytime you try out a new rom.
So is it still necessary to charge the device fully before flashing a new ROM?
Thanks for answering
DeGygii
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You don't have to charge it to 100% AFAIK. Just make sure it'll survive the flash (don't flash if you have less than 30% battery left) and charge it to 100% when you've booted after flashing. That's what I do and it works just fine for me.
Thanks for the answers, feel kinda silly now that i've always waited till full charge
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Ive flashed with 15% power before. Makes no difference. In all my times of flashing ROMS and kernels ect, ive noticed it usually takes about 1 to 5 % max batt life to backup / wipe / flash.
Got my Galaxy S4 Active about two weeks ago, loving it as its a huge upgrade over my old S2. Everything has been great; amazing battery life, Full HD screen, water resistant, etc. etc.
Two days ago, restarted my phone and noticed the bootscreen said "Samsung" with an open padlock and "Custom" underneath it. I've read a dozen threads of people having this happen after flashing custom ROMs, and if I had also done so I wouldn't be posting here. My phone is completely stock, not debloated nor rooted. In fact, as far as I can tell there hasn't been any sort of updates to software/firmware since I bought the phone. Anyone have any similar experience or solutions?
I know Triangle Away should probably fix the bootscreen, but I'm wanting to fix the cause, not the effect. There may or may not be increased battery drain since the "Custom" message appeared, it's hard for me to tell with the phone being so new and my usage varies day to day. Any info/comments/questions/advice is appreciated!
gdespaux2010 said:
Got my Galaxy S4 Active about two weeks ago, loving it as its a huge upgrade over my old S2. Everything has been great; amazing battery life, Full HD screen, water resistant, etc. etc.
Two days ago, restarted my phone and noticed the bootscreen said "Samsung" with an open padlock and "Custom" underneath it. I've read a dozen threads of people having this happen after flashing custom ROMs, and if I had also done so I wouldn't be posting here. My phone is completely stock, not debloated nor rooted. In fact, as far as I can tell there hasn't been any sort of updates to software/firmware since I bought the phone. Anyone have any similar experience or solutions?
I know Triangle Away should probably fix the bootscreen, but I'm wanting to fix the cause, not the effect. There may or may not be increased battery drain since the "Custom" message appeared, it's hard for me to tell with the phone being so new and my usage varies day to day. Any info/comments/questions/advice is appreciated!
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Nothing...?
gdespaux2010 said:
Got my Galaxy S4 Active about two weeks ago, loving it as its a huge upgrade over my old S2. Everything has been great; amazing battery life, Full HD screen, water resistant, etc. etc.
Two days ago, restarted my phone and noticed the bootscreen said "Samsung" with an open padlock and "Custom" underneath it. I've read a dozen threads of people having this happen after flashing custom ROMs, and if I had also done so I wouldn't be posting here. My phone is completely stock, not debloated nor rooted. In fact, as far as I can tell there hasn't been any sort of updates to software/firmware since I bought the phone. Anyone have any similar experience or solutions?
I know Triangle Away should probably fix the bootscreen, but I'm wanting to fix the cause, not the effect. There may or may not be increased battery drain since the "Custom" message appeared, it's hard for me to tell with the phone being so new and my usage varies day to day. Any info/comments/questions/advice is appreciated!
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It happens with root and/or busy box. Install super su and update the binaries. Worked ofr me
joshuadjohnson22 said:
It happens with root and/or busy box. Install super su and update the binaries. Worked ofr me
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Joshua,
I would understand that, but I havent rooted or installed busybox.Any other ideas?
gdespaux2010 said:
Got my Galaxy S4 Active about two weeks ago, loving it as its a huge upgrade over my old S2. Everything has been great; amazing battery life, Full HD screen, water resistant, etc. etc.
Two days ago, restarted my phone and noticed the bootscreen said "Samsung" with an open padlock and "Custom" underneath it. I've read a dozen threads of people having this happen after flashing custom ROMs, and if I had also done so I wouldn't be posting here. My phone is completely stock, not debloated nor rooted. In fact, as far as I can tell there hasn't been any sort of updates to software/firmware since I bought the phone. Anyone have any similar experience or solutions?
I know Triangle Away should probably fix the bootscreen, but I'm wanting to fix the cause, not the effect. There may or may not be increased battery drain since the "Custom" message appeared, it's hard for me to tell with the phone being so new and my usage varies day to day. Any info/comments/questions/advice is appreciated!
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why does it matter? you aren't going to return it or anything. you said you "love it" so yeah...
pham818 said:
why does it matter? you aren't going to return it or anything. you said you "love it" so yeah...
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Since when did this forum go hostile? I'm more worried about what this might be a sign of. The phone is NEW, STOCK, and showing a custom unlocked bootscreen from nowhere. If you can't help, please don't reply criticizing me for wanting to make sure my phone is working properly. Thanks.
Hello thes will be a long story so get ready to read it all if you want to help!
First let me start with the day i bought this phone. Okay it was sth like 21 dec and i bought it. The thing is that i am really crazy about installing custom roms and stuff on my phone. So i bought this N910C with the home that i wont do anything because its price in my country(Bulgaria) is basically the same as it was a year ago, saying it is expensive and i wont dare to do anything with it because i will loose the warranty. We here receive new tech later. Okay, im lusing the point.
Well by the title you know... i did not just something but many things... one week later i was annoyed of the laggy old Touchwiz for the Note 4 and decided - I will do it no matter what. So i looked up the xda site, found my model and then installed recoveru and curtom ron (Sixperience v4 or v5). So everything was smooth but i started to get more curious about other roms. Then started surching and then installing new one almost once in a day. I tried the Dytto, CM13, CM12.1, lollinox, Wanam lite, Sixperience, ERobot.
Okay and after 2 and a half weeks things started getting weird af. Well back to this day i was with Sixperience and it had that weird bug with random restarting just you know because bugs. And IThought that with new rom it will get this thing out. But guess what... i installed maybe Erobot again (i dont really remember which is sh i t because it is important but its been a while).
So then it was all okay, for couple of hours i was watching youtube videos, browsing the net but the battery ran out of juice so as im suposed to do i plugged the charger. Then i left the phone and went to bad because it was like 1 am.
And then W T F... Im the mornig i woke up and started browsing trough facebook fast beause u had to get up to school. My classmate came and i unplugged...Making2posts
senon said:
Hello thes will be a long story so get ready to read it all if you want to help!
First let me start with the day i bought this phone. Okay it was sth like 21 dec and i bought it. The thing is that i am really crazy about installing custom roms and stuff on my phone. So i bought this N910C with the home that i wont do anything because its price in my country(Bulgaria) is basically the same as it was a year ago, saying it is expensive and i wont dare to do anything with it because i will loose the warranty. We here receive new tech later. Okay, im lusing the point.
Well by the title you know... i did not just something but many things... one week later i was annoyed of the laggy old Touchwiz for the Note 4 and decided - I will do it no matter what. So i looked up the xda site, found my model and then installed recoveru and curtom ron (Sixperience v4 or v5). So everything was smooth but i started to get more curious about other roms. Then started surching and then installing new one almost once in a day. I tried the Dytto, CM13, CM12.1, lollinox, Wanam lite, Sixperience, ERobot.
Okay and after 2 and a half weeks things started getting weird af. Well back to this day i was with Sixperience and it had that weird bug with random restarting just you know because bugs. And IThought that with new rom it will get this thing out. But guess what... i installed maybe Erobot again (i dont really remember which is sh i t because it is important but its been a while).
So then it was all okay, for couple of hours i was watching youtube videos, browsing the net but the battery ran out of juice so as im suposed to do i plugged the charger. Then i left the phone and went to bad because it was like 1 am.
And then W T F... Im the mornig i woke up and started browsing trough facebook fast beause u had to get up to school. My classmate came and i unplugged...Making2posts
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So i went to school. In the breaktime i got my phone to surf the web a bit and i saw it bootlooping and it was hot af... so i thought well maybe the rom didnt install properly.
After school i tried installing another rom but the same problem... Then i got back to stock from sammobike.com software and odin 3.9.sth. And nothing this problem again.
The really f'd thing is that it is working properly when im charging it like on cable always working with no probem. Also with an expernal battery pack.
So my question is Whyy.... And can you help me to fix it... I'll respond to every question you guys ask... Just cant live with my phone wrapped in cable and like old cable phone. And by the way... yes i tried different original battery and it isn't working too.
Also another weird things. Now there isn't a bootloop but only 3 sec working off the charger then get in sth like restart... I mean showing samsung galaxy note 4 logo and the it is turning completely off... even not showing the boot animation.
And by the way sorry if i have mistakes but im writing fast. I hope you will understand the most.
Thanks for reading that long post!