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Red Light Of Death - Should I Be Concerned?

Hey Guys.
I'm very excited to get my nexus 4 but I've been hearing a lot of people talking about the RLOD!!
What causes this problem and is there anyway to fix this??

S.H.A.D.E said:
Hey Guys.
I'm very excited to get my nexus 4 but I've been hearing a lot of people talking about the RLOD!!
What causes this problem and is there anyway to fix this??
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the red light is just caused by using your phone the wrong way. it won't happen if you do not flash a custom rom anyway.
And if you flash custom roms it won't happen either, if you follow the standard steps you have to follow on every android phone. It's just a brick that can happen on every android device if you flash broken .zip's or anything else comparable .
People who claim this happened from a moment to the next without them doing anything wrong, are just not telling the truth. Even IF this would happen this way(not your own fault), you could easily get a replacement from google without any costs or problems.

Thanks for the reply,
Ive heard many people who had a completely stock and unrooted nexus 4 say they got a red light of death too... The problem is, I don't live in any of the countries that have playstore devices. So I'm having somebody from the US bring it for me...

S.H.A.D.E said:
Thanks for the reply,
Ive heard many people who had a completely stock and unrooted nexus 4 say they got a red light of death too... The problem is, I don't live in any of the countries that have playstore devices. So I'm having somebody from the US bring it for me...
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propably you could check the rev of those n4's (asking them in pm's). i can't imagine rev11+ have this problem anymore. I still won't believe this happened without a reason

S.H.A.D.E said:
Thanks for the reply,
Ive heard many people who had a completely stock and unrooted nexus 4 say they got a red light of death too... The problem is, I don't live in any of the countries that have playstore devices. So I'm having somebody from the US bring it for me...
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These many people you speak of? That's not even half possible for it to RLOD on pure stock without any mods it's just to save the hardware its the phones built in safety net...unless you plan on OCing to 1.98ghz and set it to performance and run antutu that will most likely do it for you
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Hi,
It happened wih or without running an Antutu bench. Yes some users have reported the red light on stock with rev 10 or with rev 11.
Antutu is not directly the culprit, it's due to a bad read of battery stuff (in a stress condition even at 50% battery the phone think you are out of battery then shutdown + heat, there is an issue with some phone about the battery contact inside the phone). If it's happen you can try to let your phone in charging for hours, sometimes it's enough. But the better thing is to open your phone then disconnect / reconnect the battery.
It happened also while flashing something in recovery mod, 40% battery, flash then reboot and bam red light...
Also on a French forum it happened during a download while browsing...
I agree we not know all the conditions together when it happened but it seems this is slightly random. Maybe a combination of circumstances...
It's "just" related to some weird battery reading issue.
For example I ran a bunch of Antutu bench with / without overclocking at different battery % (even at 11% battery ) without any issues, at least until today...
Take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36304348

So does this problem happen to everybody or is only a minority of nexus 4 users affected? Do you think google would've fixed this problem by now??

Re,
It seems it's a minority phones who are concerned...
I don't know if Lg / Google have worked on the problem. As I read maybe the rev 11 are less concerned? But I'm not sure...
Don't be afraid, use your phone and if that happens rma or open your phone, there is always a solution

Alright, read a lot of threads and it looks like removing the battery and starting it again works perfectly. I also read somewhere that its due to too much pressure being applied on the thing the connects the battery to the phone.. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128392&highlight=red+light+of+death&page=2

Yes, it's what I said, ah I forgot this link.
When you search, you find

Happened to me a few days after I got it (100%stock, not rooted); I left it charging for some time and it turned on again like nothing happened. Didn't happened since.

Only time I had it was when I first rooted.
It got stuck in a boot loop on the "X" screen and when I rebooted to clear the cache the red light flashed and I had to hold the power button in to turn it off.
Booted into recover fine after that.
No issues since.

Alright that's good to hear. When did you guys get your nexus?? Maybe google resolved this issue.

I got mine very recently ordered in late February. It did red light because I flashed a mod which was for the nexus 7 but i flashed it on my nexus 4. I just went into recovery and flashed stock, phone was fine.
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Alright. Sounds good.

Got mine last week but it's a Rev 10 not an 11.

indoh said:
the red light is just caused by using your phone the wrong way. it won't happen if you do not flash a custom rom anyway.
And if you flash custom roms it won't happen either, if you follow the standard steps you have to follow on every android phone. It's just a brick that can happen on every android device if you flash broken .zip's or anything else comparable .
People who claim this happened from a moment to the next without them doing anything wrong, are just not telling the truth. Even IF this would happen this way(not your own fault), you could easily get a replacement from google without any costs or problems.
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That is not true.. Red light appears due to some small chip next to the battery which is hardly put in there, you just need to release some pressure and it will be fine.. (there's a youtube video)

Loosen the screws?? Do you have a link to the YT video?

Ordered mine when they were first available, got it 2-3 weeks later (end of November).

Got a bricked rev11 301k here. Tried everything untill I get my replacement (takes a bit longer since I live in holland). Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177787&highlight=nexus+4+bricked for more info. Now I try to drain the battery and let it charge (put it in a cold enviroment for a full 24 hrs. Got past the google logo for half a second and saw the stock recovery before it went dead again

[Q] How to fix strange battery behavior?

Since last week I am experiencing a really strange behavior of my battery.
Sometimes my phone (in a random app) just vibrates, the screen goes black and then it reboots. After the reboot I have lost 40-50% battery life. Sometimes the phones isn't even able to complete the reboot because it spontaneously has too little power left. See attached screenshots.
Has anybody had similar problems? Or knows a solution?
About my setup: The problem seems to be not rom or kernel related. It occurs no matter what rom or kernel setting I am using. Currently I am running coool boy's 4.3 GE witch KT's kernel (no OC or UV).
Is it possible that the battery is physically damaged? I have NO IDEA...

Experiencing the same problem. I've flashed back to stock and still experiencing this. Phone randomly turning off, not starting, sudden battery drops. Driving me crazy.
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This looks pretty strange 0.o
Consider buying a new recovery
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I've seen the same sort of graph on my old i9000. You're not gonna like this, but it got worse over time, and eventually my battery wouldn't last more than 5 mins. I thought buying a new battery would help, but it didn't. When I sent it in to Samsung they said they would have to replace the entire motherboard...
I think it's got something to do with the motherboard not being able to correctly sense the battery voltage/whatever/%. The phone reboots automatically because it thinks the battery is flat (even though it isn't).
If you're under warranty I suggest sending it in soon... Hopefully it's not the same as what I had heh.

nwsk said:
I've seen the same sort of graph on my old i9000. You're not gonna like this, but it got worse over time, and eventually my battery wouldn't last more than 5 mins. I thought buying a new battery would help, but it didn't. When I sent it in to Samsung they said they would have to replace the entire motherboard...
I think it's got something to do with the motherboard not being able to correctly sense the battery voltage/whatever/%. The phone reboots automatically because it thinks the battery is flat (even though it isn't).
If you're under warranty I suggest sending it in soon... Hopefully it's not the same as what I had heh.
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Well *#!$
I'll observate it for the next few days and see if it's getting worse...

If your phone is rebooting as opposed to just powering off, then I suspect it is hardware related (motherboard) as already mentioned.
I do hope I'm wrong though.
Maybe try using it for extended periods while plugged into a charger and see what happens. If it doesn't reboot then it may just be the battery.

Right as OP I'm suffering the same exact problem or there abouts. I've flashed back to stock rom, fully charged to 100% drained to 0% back to 100% yet still phone keeps shutting off randomly and the only way it works properly is with the charger plugged in. It's escalated quite badly with now after a few mins of YouTube turning itself off and not rebooting. I've requested a repair by o2 who I'm in contract with and see what will happen. I've heard crap stories about their repairs before taking it to Samsung.

I9500 owner. Had this exact same problem when using older firmware. After updating to the latest one, never had this issue again. Its been two months now, even more.
Try this. Flash the latest available firmware for you phone, not talking about OTA but the downloadable one from any region (whichever is latest for i9505). I guess it may have something to do with the kernel too.
Edit: wait a minute, why is your battery level going up when it isn't even charging in the second screenshot. Middle of the battery timeline. That's weird. I guess you should send the phone back
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Its a hardware issue(motherboard).I hope your under warranty.Best of luck .

i have something strange like that also on my device ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409284

Thank you guys :good:
In the last few days the problem occurred more often. But now it is just shutting down (no reboot after vibrate) and after plugging it to the charger and restarting it sometimes I haven't lost any battery. Strange!
I fear there is nothing else to do than turning it in (warranty)

E_Cartman said:
Thank you guys :good:
In the last few days the problem occurred more often. But now it is just shutting down (no reboot after vibrate) and after plugging it to the charger and restarting it sometimes I haven't lost any battery. Strange!
I fear there is nothing else to do than turning it in (warranty)
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Same problem here. It started three days ago and today I'm barely able to use it... I'm still on warraty and I even have insurance, but it's a major inconvenience anyway.

Mines gone in for repair back to my carrier still no movement despite them having it for 2 days now really should have sent it back to Samsung directly. Will keep you guys posted.
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Will send it in tomorrow. Lady on the hotline told me apparently the motherboard is defect and I'll get a new S4. Exchange, no repair. I'm fine with that...
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 4

That's good to hear, just inconvenience but at least you won't have to pay for it (or have the defect materialize a year later or something)

E_Cartman said:
Since last week I am experiencing a really strange behavior of my battery.
Sometimes my phone (in a random app) just vibrates, the screen goes black and then it reboots. After the reboot I have lost 40-50% battery life. Sometimes the phones isn't even able to complete the reboot because it spontaneously has too little power left. See attached screenshots.
Has anybody had similar problems? Or knows a solution?
About my setup: The problem seems to be not rom or kernel related. It occurs no matter what rom or kernel setting I am using. Currently I am running coool boy's 4.3 GE witch KT's kernel (no OC or UV).
Is it possible that the battery is physically damaged? I have NO IDEA...
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nikzDHD said:
Experiencing the same problem. I've flashed back to stock and still experiencing this. Phone randomly turning off, not starting, sudden battery drops. Driving me crazy.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
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nikzDHD said:
Right as OP I'm suffering the same exact problem or there abouts. I've flashed back to stock rom, fully charged to 100% drained to 0% back to 100% yet still phone keeps shutting off randomly and the only way it works properly is with the charger plugged in. It's escalated quite badly with now after a few mins of YouTube turning itself off and not rebooting. I've requested a repair by o2 who I'm in contract with and see what will happen. I've heard crap stories about their repairs before taking it to Samsung.
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im4eversmart said:
Its a hardware issue(motherboard).I hope your under warranty.Best of luck .
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Hey
I am new here.
but i was looking for information becuase my s4 9505i has the same problem
shuts of almost everytime i open apps too quickly or stream youtube or some other high usage apps etc.
battery drops up to 50 percent then back 40 percent then to 0 percent, the fact it that the phone never seems to know where the battery is.
by the way my phone is not rooted and i have done the factory reset a few times.
samsung... hmmm.. they seem to be real hard to talk to on the phone, i have had to call them 4 times already about the s4 i ahve had since june, and they just play me off like i am some kind of idiot etc. and deny that there is possibly any reason for random shutdowns, phone freezing, and now this battery/motherboard issue.
next bit is kinda stupid, the phone has a few internal scratches on it from when i ahve stupidly had the phone next to keys and all that. im sure they are going to try and void my warranty and say i have mistreated the phone...
had many phones before, maybe close to 50 and never, never, never have had to ring up a company to try and complain etc.....
any ideas.
I am in Australia,
I am thinking of trying the CONSUMER AFFAIRS kind of threats, but i have to word it the right way...

Galaxy s6 edge Plus Battery

Okay guys, I am not sure if any thread has been made about this before etc. I hope I am not spamming the forums with another yet answered question 1000 times But...
I have a Samsung Galaxy s6 edge plus, I attempted a root and my battery went from good to draining like a son of a b***h. (The root failed so I stock rom'd it)
So in my attempts of fixing purchased a new battery fitted it. same issue drains so quick.
So I then rooted my phone which this time rooted successfully. (woo noob did something right) and the battery was perfect. couldn't ask for more it lasted for over 24 hours brilliant!
But now I have unrooted and put it back to stock Rom. and same issue again battery draining so quickly.
So is there anyway to fix this without rooting my phone? something i've missed out. I don't want to give up hope! I have probably missed something out or w/e
But I can say the phone gets hot for no reason what so ever. I have tried sending it back (after first stock rom) but Samsung noticed some how it had been rooted(or attempted atleast) Anyhow hope to hear something of some of you androiders who actually know what you're doing :laugh: :laugh: hopefully this will fix my phone!
Thanks in advanced. and again sorry if this question has already been solved. been looking through though only thing I found was rooted fixs

Try package disabler pro from GP. It disables all bloatware, about doubled battery life on my GS6+, and without rooting
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I just bought this phone, have to say quite a good phone so far

Dreaded Battery Issue

So, my phone the past couple months has started turning off at 25 percent battery life left. Battery is also draining faster than normal. Reading up this is a major issue on a lot of 6ps. Some say replacing the battery fixed it, some say it didn't. Some say that calibrating the battery fixes it, same say it doesnt. Some say that factory reset fixes it, some says it doesnt. I have also tried all of these with no luckI have a replacement phone coming from Google but some say the replacement has the same issue. Some are saying it is not a software issue, some are saying it is.
.Is there anything else I can try?

techbeck said:
So, my phone the past couple months has started turning off at 25 percent battery life left. Battery is also draining faster than normal. Reading up this is a major issue on a lot of 6ps. Some say replacing the battery fixed it, some say it didn't. Some say that calibrating the battery fixes it, same say it doesnt. Some say that factory reset fixes it, some says it doesnt. I have also tried all of these with no luckI have a replacement phone coming from Google but some say the replacement has the same issue. Some are saying it is not a software issue, some are saying it is.
.Is there anything else I can try?
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Try flashing a custom rom&kernel, I doubt it will totally fix it, but it might at least help.

I got a replacement on order. I did a factory reset/complete wipe yesterday and so far, appears to be much better. Phone is snappier and things like Smart Lock popped up when it didnt before. Also, my alarm I used to only have to press the onscreen icon to silence it, not I have to slide to silence. So things are a little different (same OS version) so I am curious if things were just screwed up. I have not done a complete wipe since I got my phone about 2yrs ago. Time will tell tho and I have not run down my phone below 25 yet to see if that is still happening. But like I said, I got a replacement coming.

It's the battery. You need to replace it. Not a pleasant or easy thing to do with the way the Nexus 6P is constructed, but not impossible either. Do it, and it will work like the day it rolled off the Chinese factory floor.

rajendra82 said:
It's the battery. You need to replace it. Not a pleasant or easy thing to do with the way the Nexus 6P is constructed, but not impossible either. Do it, and it will work like the day it rolled off the Chinese factory floor.
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Google replaced it out of warranty so I went that route. I saw vids about changing the battery, but this worked better. And the new phone addressed my issue.

Stock 8 Pro suddenly died

Hey all,
My stock 8+ Pro that I've had for 2.5 years will not turn on or charge. I was rebooting it with about 30% battery left before it became non-responsive. I tried the various methods of booting in safe mode but nothing. I just swapped the battery for a new one but still nothing.
Before this I had zero issues with the phone. The battery was slowly losing life but nothing drastic. I was prompted for a system update 3ish weeks ago that I had not gotten around to. I saw a comment while I was googling fixes that might point to the outdated software being a cause of the problem? Is there anything I can try at this point or am I looking at a brick?
Thanks in advance.

mw182006 said:
Hey all,
My stock 8+ Pro that I've had for 2.5 years will not turn on or charge. I was rebooting 192.168.100.1 192.168.1.1 it with about 30% battery left before it became non-responsive. I tried the various methods of booting in safe mode but nothing. I just swapped the battery for a new one but still nothing.
Before this I had zero issues with the phone. The battery was slowly losing life but nothing drastic. I was prompted for a system update 3ish weeks ago that I had not gotten around to. I saw a comment while I was googling fixes that might point to the outdated software being a cause of the problem? Is there anything I can try at this point or am I looking at a brick?
Thanks in advance.
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Normally these phones die automatically after their end date and it happens with the new updates that apple sends to the phones... I had the same problem before with my i phone 7 and I had to get a newer version

SAMI_AI202 said:
Normally these phones die automatically after their end date and it happens with the new updates that apple sends to the phones... I had the same problem before with my i phone 7 and I had to get a newer version
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Huh what? I still have an OP 3 from 2016, a 5T from 2017 and a Samsung Tablet from 2016, all running fine on custom roms.
There is no "auto destruct" in our devices ... no idea about Apple ones, but Android definitely not.
@mw182006 - if all else fails then try to use MSM to revive the device, but that WILL factory reset it and you'll lose all data.

Well obviously you have to go through sh**t to take it back to life

mw182006 said:
Hey all,
My stock 8+ Pro that I've had for 2.5 years will not turn on or charge. I was rebooting it with about 30% battery left before it became non-responsive. I tried the various methods of booting in safe mode but nothing. I just swapped the battery for a new one but still nothing.
Before this I had zero issues with the phone. The battery was slowly losing life but nothing drastic. I was prompted for a system update 3ish weeks ago that I had not gotten around to. I saw a comment while I was googling fixes that might point to the outdated software being a cause of the problem? Is there anything I can try at this point or am I looking at a brick?
Thanks in advance.
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My guess: the motherboard is gone. You'll have to replace it or buy a new phone (better option).

Thanks for the replies.
TheMystic said:
My guess: the motherboard is gone. You'll have to replace it or buy a new phone (better option).
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Will this lead to data loss?

mw182006 said:
Thanks for the replies.
Will this lead to data loss?
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Unfortunately, YES, unless you take it to a repair shop that specialises in data recovery. Company service centers won't be of any help.

TheMystic said:
Unfortunately, YES, unless you take it to a repair shop that specialises in data recovery. Company service centers won't be of any help.
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Fortunately I'm in China and they are wizards with this stuff, so I'm hopeful this can be salvaged without wiping everything. Thanks again for the replies.