Data\app functionality based question....... - Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl

ok guyz i was building a rom through dsixda kitchen
i added data\app functionlaity but all those apps which i have moved to data\app are installed as user apps.I have included many apps in system\app folder so i added some apps to data\app so that they can be updated and i will have some space in system partition...but why are these apps are being installed as user apps.they all get removed if i do a data wipe...please help me or tell me a way of not allowing this to hapen

I don't know your question's answer but many devs outta there in XDA may know so please make the title more informative.

abhishekr700 said:
ok guyz i was building a rom through dsixda kitchen
i added data\app functionlaity but all those apps which i have moved to data\app are installed as user apps.I have included many apps in system\app folder so i added some apps to data\app so that they can be updated and i will have some space in system partition...but why are these apps are being installed as user apps.they all get removed if i do a data wipe...please help me or tell me a way of not allowing this to hapen
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All system apps sgould be in system/app.They are a bit hard to be deleted.
Whereas user apps can be easily uninstalled via settings or so.
You need user apps to be in data/app.

san122 said:
All system apps sgould be in system/app.They are a bit hard to be deleted.
Whereas user apps can be easily uninstalled via settings or so.
You need user apps to be in data/app.
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what if i have a system app that needs upgrading from market??

abhishekr700 said:
what if i have a system app that needs upgrading from market??
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then use link2sd to uninstall the system app - download it from market and then convert it to system app again with link2sd and restart if thats what you want to do
you can update system apps from market but they will not replace the system app - instead you have a duplicate app which means if you uninstall the update it will roll back to the version that orig system app was
if you want to overwrite the system app with the new version simply use link2sd to intergrate update into system then restart

marcussmith2626 said:
then use link2sd to uninstall the system app - download it from market and then convert it to system app again with link2sd and restart if thats what you want to do
you can update system apps from market but they will not replace the system app - instead you have a duplicate app which means if you uninstall the update it will roll back to the version that orig system app was
if you want to overwrite the system app with the new version simply use link2sd to intergrate update into system then restart
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that means when i was on stock rom annd updated apps like gmaill,maps etc then i got 2 vesions of same apps in my phone......
#feelingcheated

marcussmith2626 said:
then use link2sd to uninstall the system app - download it from market and then convert it to system app again with link2sd and restart if thats what you want to do
you can update system apps from market but they will not replace the system app - instead you have a duplicate app which means if you uninstall the update it will roll back to the version that orig system app was
if you want to overwrite the system app with the new version simply use link2sd to intergrate update into system then restart
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that means when i was on stock rom annd updated apps like gmaill,maps etc then i got 2 vesions of same apps in my phone......
#feelingcheated

abhishekr700 said:
that means when i was on stock rom annd updated apps like gmaill,maps etc then i got 2 vesions of same apps in my phone......
#feelingcheated
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yes in a sense
you will have the orig system app in system/app and then the new version stored in data
so if you uninstalled the new version it will roll back to the system app which you cannot uninstall by normal means (you can uninstall system apps with link2sd)
if you look through apps with link2sd anything with the word updated next to it in green means its a system app that has been updated by the user and so the update can be intergrated into system if you wish

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[Q]System app update

let's say if the apps such as rom mangers,superusers are preinstalled into the /system/app of android, if there is a newer version, does android overwrite the apps in the /system/app or create a new one in /data/app?
/system/app, but what system apps get moved to /data/app? cause if it were preinstalled into /system/app and updated, it can't be uninstalled anyway since it would be already installed in system app? im not sure about all of this anyway xD or maybe like the youtube app which is now in the market so it can be moved to /data/app when updated?
but why is this thread stated that apps update goes into data/app even they are system apps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841598
i search around the forum and saw many said that too...sorry i just need a confirmation
any help guys?
i am trying to move some apps to /system/app from /data/app to free up some space since they have different partition in the phone internal memory (correct me if im wrong)
if new system app update will create another entry in /data/app that would be troublesome since i have to move the new updated app to /system/app again..
or is there anyway that i can trick android system to merge partition of /system/app and /data/app?

Is there a way to free up space?

I'm currently running cmylxgo stock desire rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901576 and am loving it but have one issue. Lately I've been getting alerts that my phine is low on space. I delete any unused apps but pretty soon ill have to delete ones I use. Is there a way to be able to download as many apps as I want or delete any of the stick apps ill never use like facebbok, twitter etc.....or does anyone know if any of his other roms allow for more space?
Lots of different apps in the market for this mate do a search.
jonny68 said:
Lots of different apps in the market for this mate do a search.
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I've tried that. Searched freespace, apps, phone memory. Any other suggestions?
bx10r said:
I've tried that. Searched freespace, apps, phone memory. Any other suggestions?
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Search for 'move to SD'.
Search the Market for App 2 SD
App to sd opened up about 25% more memory. Thanks guys
You can also try Darktremor a2sd script. It should allow you to move not only apps that can be moved to SD card but every apps along with the dolvik cache and user data files.
I haven't tried it on my HD2 yet and I know its still in beta, so I can't guarantee you whether it will work or not. But at least it worth a try. If u wanna try it do a nandroid backup first, just in case it mess something...
Segnale007 said:
You can also try Darktremor a2sd script. It should allow you to move not only apps that can be moved to SD card but every apps along with the dolvik cache and user data files.
I haven't tried it on my HD2 yet and I know its still in beta, so I can't guarantee you whether it will work or not. But at least it worth a try. Do a nandroid backup and try it if u want, just in case it mess something...
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Thanks, i wish there was a way to delete unused stock apps. For example...i dont use facebook or twitter so y have it. That would free up room too.....i'll ride with app2sd for now til something else pops up later.
bx10r said:
Thanks, i wish there was a way to delete unused stock apps. For example...i dont use facebook or twitter so y have it. That would free up room too.....i'll ride with app2sd for now til something else pops up later.
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My rom doesn't come with facebook or twitter pre installed. Anyways, u can delete those from /system/app
bx10r said:
Thanks, i wish there was a way to delete unused stock apps. For example...i dont use facebook or twitter so y have it. That would free up room too.....i'll ride with app2sd for now til something else pops up later.
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You can delete unused stock apps by purchasing an app called 'Root Explorer' from the market (or install any root-enabled file explorer really, i just like root explorer the best lol) and delete the .apk file of whatever app you don't want from /system/app directory of your phone. If your rom loads the system to ram memory, you also will have to delete the .apk from /system/ram/app directory or it will re-appear
-HD2 Android-
huggs said:
You can delete unused stock apps by purchasing an app called 'Root Explorer' from the market (or install any root-enabled file explorer really, i just like root explorer the best lol) and delete the .apk file of whatever app you don't want from /system/app directory of your phone. If your rom loads the system to ram memory, you also will have to delete the .apk from /system/ram/app directory or it will re-appear
-HD2 Android-
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I got root explore and did the following. clicked on root explorer then went into sysytem then app and deleted the facebook and twitter apk. They still appear in my apps though. Is there something elseim supposed to do?
Still no instructions on how to delete stock apps via root explorer? I found this on the thread to my rom but dont know how to install it. I got it on my desktop but now what?Can anyone help?
If you wish to gain an additional 27MB for apps in /data/ you can install the my new partition layout MAX[Build.v1.1.7]. This is NOT required and you can use any of my other partition layouts with build v1.1.7. However if MAX[v1.1.7] partition layout is used with older builds your Phone will not boot. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

[Trick!] Get more free Phone Memory & Speed up your Device!!!

Requirements :
Xperia Arc [Rooted]*
Root Explorer
How :
First... Update all your standard programs in your phone, from Market [Example : Gmail, Facebook, WhatsApp, YouTube, Maps, Adobe Flash Player, Data Monitor & ...]
Download your important programs from Market [Example for me : Root Explorer, Adobe Reader, Bluetooth File Explorer, Advanced Task Killer, Facebook Messenger & ...]
Open "Root Explorer"
Go to "/data/app" folder.
Press Menu key, then press "Multi-select" Button.
Select all file (Programs).
Press "Copy" Button.
Now, Go to "/system/app" folder.
Press "Paste" Button.
For Now, delete old programs, if you new programs is paste this folder. [Example : COPY "com.google.android.apps.maps.apk" from "/data/app" to "/system/app". So DELETE "google maps.apk" (old file)]
Sync or Backup your personal data, if you have.
Factory Reset Device from Phone, with Erase Memory Card.
Finish!
Now you can see over 200-250 MB Free storage in Phone Memory! While your application is installed in internal memory!!!
* I think this trick is working for other Android Device (Rooted!).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
I made a mistake doing this, I moved com.android.vending to a wrong place.
Can anybody tell me where it should be ?
Result ; no more Market ...
Cheers
ChefChaudart said:
I made a mistake doing this, I moved com.android.vending to a wrong place.
Can anybody tell me where it should be ?
Result ; no more Market ...
Cheers
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updated market (com.android.vending.apk for your case) should be inside /data/app
Sweet trick, as long as I don't update any apps in the future
If you update an app isn't just a case of moving it from data/app to system/app?
Does the factory reset do that much?
stu1978 said:
If you update an app isn't just a case of moving it from data/app to system/app?
Does the factory reset do that much?
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No, isn't...
Yes... If you do factory reset, all your app (changed app) is updated...
What does 'convert to system app' do in Titanium Backup?
Any advantage/space saving?
Sent from my Arc via subspace beacon.
or you can just use app2sd
gonemad02 said:
or you can just use app2sd
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If you like to slow your phone down..
madone via Tapatalk (Xperia Arc)
Lord Takyon said:
What does 'convert to system app' do in Titanium Backup?
Any advantage/space saving?
Sent from my Arc via subspace beacon.
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I tired that many times without success. I tired to convert the FB to a normal application ending up TB running for about 8 hours and my battery dead. After I booted up the phone, FB is neither here nor there and ended up restoring from backup!
Not sure it's only happening to me though .
stu1978 said:
If you update an app isn't just a case of moving it from data/app to system/app?
Does the factory reset do that much?
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I have just tried to move one app and it is working fine without factory reset.
Thanks allot for this excellent tip to save some space
I copied data from /data/app to /system/app, then uninstalled the app and rebooted device. The app is now a system app, not sure if it will work for all kinds of apps, will continue to move more of my apps to the /system/app folder.
One disadvantage could be that upgrading firmware also requires that all the systemized apps are reinstalled.
Im using the a2sd script + titanium backup's ability to freeze a background app/process then unfreeze them\it when I need it
very useful indeed

[MOD] Remove unnecessary built-in APKS

Hello friends this is my first contribution to this forum, this file removes unnecessary built-in apks present in, /system/app & /system/priv-app.
I will miss the applications removed?
No, because a current copy of them is running on /data/app
Goal
Remove unused applications by the system
Free up space in the device memory
Compatibility
Nexus 5 android 6.0.1 must have root and twrp
How to use
Installed the android 6.0.1, get in playstore and update all applications, now just flash the zip via TWRP.
Removal list click to see
delete_recursive("/system/app/Chrome");
delete_recursive("/system/app/Books");
delete_recursive("/system/app/CloudPrint2");
delete_recursive("/system/app/Drive");
delete_recursive("/system/app/EditorsDocsStub");
delete_recursive("/system/app/EditorsSheetsStub");
delete_recursive("/system/app/EditorsSlidesStub");
delete_recursive("/system/app/FitnessPrebuilt");
delete_recursive("/system/priv-app/GCS");
delete_recursive("/system/app/PrebuiltNewsWeather");
delete_recursive("/system/app/NewsstandStub");
delete_recursive("/system/app/Maps");
delete_recursive("/system/app/PrebuiltBugleStub");
delete_recursive("/system/app/Photos");
delete_recursive("/system/app/PlusOne");
delete_recursive("/system/priv-app/GoogleContacts");
delete_recursive("/system/app/PrebuiltDeskClockGoogle");
delete_recursive("/system/priv-app/GoogleDialer");
delete_recursive("/system/app/PrebuiltGmail");
delete_recursive("/system/app/GoogleCamera");
delete_recursive("/system/priv-app/Velvet");
delete_recursive("/system/app/PrebuiltKeepStub");
delete_recursive("/system/app/talkback");
delete_recursive("/system/app/Music2");
delete_recursive("/system/app/PlayGames");
delete_recursive("/system/app/Hangouts");
delete_recursive("/system/app/GoogleTTS");
delete_recursive("/system/app/Videos");
delete_recursive("/system/app/WebViewGoogle");
This is a system partition
The deletion is useless because you can't use this space and you won't appreciate any differences
Read here, it is very very important
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64208563&postcount=3393
Personally I prefer to disable unnecessary apps
Pay attention
I do not like duplicate files, disabling an app the same will continue in the system, the idea is to not disable an app.
If I have the upgraded chrome in data\app I will not want an unusable copy of it on \system\app. My list does so with 30 Apps, if they are all updated on DATA I see no utility in maintaining obsolete unusable in the SYSTEM, and we still have the possibility to uninstall those we dislike.
ivn888 said:
This is a system partition
The deletion is useless because you can't use this space and you won't appreciate any differences
Read here, it is very very important
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64208563&postcount=3393
Personally I prefer to disable unnecessary apps
Pay attention
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If you read that post he clearly says that to modify system you need to delete things from it to be safe. He is pointing out that it is an unknown. He said even to make small changes you would need more space. I see no reason to leave unneeded files in system. Maybe you want to run an app as system app and these unneeded files are getting in the way. Nothing wrong with getting rid of them.
We can use some root enabled file app managers (like es explorer, solid explorer) to uninstall the system apps.
I just want to know if is it safe or not?
And is it different than using flashable script?
parag60288 said:
We can use some root enabled file app managers (like es explorer, solid explorer) to uninstall the system apps.
I just want to know if is it safe or not?
And is it different than using flashable script?
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File explorers with root function can enable manual removal of system apps, but it is laborious and tedious remove as many apps, It is safe if you know what you are removing, because the system is running if you give problem can fall into a bootloop... my flash file is safe removal of 30 apps, all with updated copies of the same in DATA folder so I ask you to enter the play store and update it before you use it, nothing is lost only copies obsolete and useless are removed.
The advantage here is not to miss anything, remove enough waste Rom, and return the power to uninstall what you do not want. I do not use play books, play movies, keep, Drive, Hangouts... so without losing any, then after the flash zip i have the freedom to uninstall what I want.

[SCRIPT] OOS Bloatware remover script

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axl409 said:
i want to thanks @jajb because i basically copy his bloatware removal script (from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2779598) but changed the app it will remove.
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So... I can edit the script that you have made, according to my requirements... right??
axl409 said:
PS: i recommend using it when you first reinstall the rom, so that none of that apps have been updated. but, if you want, you can use this script even from an old install, just be sure to uninstall update from the app it will remove, otherwise they will stay not as system app but as user app.
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Does this mean , the updated app will remain as user apps that can be uninstalled normally??
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Did You tested it yourself ? Everything works ?
How about .odex files ?
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axl409 said:
....it's recommended to delete data and cache from app that will be removed (and to uninstall update, as i stated in the OP).
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can't this(^) be done by using the script? Because, there are so many apps whose data and cache are to be removed.
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