[Q]System app update - Wildfire General

let's say if the apps such as rom mangers,superusers are preinstalled into the /system/app of android, if there is a newer version, does android overwrite the apps in the /system/app or create a new one in /data/app?

/system/app, but what system apps get moved to /data/app? cause if it were preinstalled into /system/app and updated, it can't be uninstalled anyway since it would be already installed in system app? im not sure about all of this anyway xD or maybe like the youtube app which is now in the market so it can be moved to /data/app when updated?

but why is this thread stated that apps update goes into data/app even they are system apps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841598
i search around the forum and saw many said that too...sorry i just need a confirmation

any help guys?
i am trying to move some apps to /system/app from /data/app to free up some space since they have different partition in the phone internal memory (correct me if im wrong)
if new system app update will create another entry in /data/app that would be troublesome since i have to move the new updated app to /system/app again..
or is there anyway that i can trick android system to merge partition of /system/app and /data/app?

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how many system apps can you flash on the nexus 1

I was just wondering how many apps can u flash to the internal memory or how much space does it have total
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Is that big apps, or little apps??!! :-/
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Total /system memory is about 145MB. An average ROM install will take up from 130-135MB of that, though it varies from ROM to ROM.
I haven't moved any new apps to the /system/app directory, but by moving updates of stock Google apps from /data/app to /system/app, I've been able to save a lot of memory space. Titanium Backup Pro's ROM integration feature for updated system apps has made this a lot easier than doing it manually. The updated apps I've moved into /system/app are
Maps
Market
Goggles
Gmail
Voice Search
YouTube
I wasn't able to move the apps that originally had a .odex component but found that simply deleting the .odex file after doing the ROM integration fixed the force closes I was getting.

update zip

i just want to make update.zip of any application so that it becomes part of the system application so no one can uninstall it
it can uninstall with rootexplorer but not with the application manager pls someone help me
some apps u can do that simply by moving the respective .apk file from the /data/app directory to the /system/app directory.
for those that can't, u can use TiBackup and convert them to system app
go here m8 it good for what your looking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717437
hope it help you out
Have you also had a look on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678133?????
I´m sure I just HAVE TO play around with it, and it should even workj because he syas ALL recoveries are supported!
chewdaniel said:
some apps u can do that simply by moving the respective .apk file from the /data/app directory to the /system/app directory.
for those that can't, u can use TiBackup and convert them to system app
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how to use ti backup to make it as system apps
i tried to move installed apps from data folder to system folder but still not sucesss pls help me guys i need this so that no one can uninstall my apps

[Q] /System/app seems to be full, what do i do?

I got stock Motoblur launcher for ICS&JB including Widgets, after I installed it, the launcher config disappeared and I tried copying HomeConfig.apk to /system/app and it said that it had no space left. I also wanted to copy some of the features from Razr M's MotoBlur and i cant because adb says that /system/app is at 100%.
I'll try with a fresh installation and see what happens.
Look at link2sd, but you need to be root on your device...
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Try removing any built in apps that you are not using. I suppose you've been pushing a lot of stuff to system partition? Most apps (except launchers which need to put widgets) work just as well from data partition, afaik. Try moving some apps from /system/app/ to /data/app. But be careful, coz now you'll be able to uninstall them from Settings->Manage apps.

[Q] Is deleting files from /System/App safe?

Navigating through my root tree, I´ve stumbled at so many bloatware files I just want to delete to save some storage space (16GB version here) but I´m a little afraid of. They are on the /System/App folder and for every .apk there´s a .odex file, so I would like to delete them both. Is it safe? Is there any verification process at boot of these files? Some of them look like really system apps that I´ll never touch, but others are for other phone carries in my country, social networks I´ve never heard before etc.
There´s another folder called /System/Apps/Bootup that I would love to delete files from, there´s a lot of LG crapware in there that I think are loaded at boot but I have the same fear of bootloops...
Any solution to my urge to free some memory?
Hi,
Delete some apps in /system/app not gonna free up your "sd card" storage... You always will have the same free amunt of memory available on your 16 Gb...
It's normal to have an .odex file under eachs system apps, your rom is odexed (search on Google if you don't know what is it).
You can delete some system apps but be careful at what apps you delete, make a backup first.
Some system apps are alright to delete along with the .odex ones too. There's a list in the general section I believe that lists off apps that can be deleted with no issue.
Problem is though unless you plan to store stuff in your system partition, deleting apps doesn't really increase your usable storage.
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Re,
Yes there is a (brief) list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456974&highlight=list or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521066.
Like SupaSwag said when you delete an app, delete the .odex file too. If you don't know what you are doing I recommend you to leave the system apps as there are to avoid any kind of issues. At best you'll gain a little free RAM and maybe a little battery life without some apps runing/connecting to the network in background but in any case you will not gain more usable storage. At worst some function will not work at all, Force Closes, bootloop, etc...
In any case backup first (backup in recovery if something goes wrong and you encounter a bootloop) or at least a backup with an app like Titanium Backup (and make an uptade.zip in Titanium).
And what do you think of the apps in the bootup folder?
And then, how van I free some space for my mp3s? Coming from a S3 with a 64gb microSD card.
sylviofurtado said:
And what do you think of the apps in the bootup folder?
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Re,
It's some LG apps, the name of the apps say all: TaskManager, FileManager, etc... Nothing very important it's LG stuff but it depends of you... I deleted all the apps in the /system/apps/bootup because I don't need them with my use, but you?
I think the best is to freeze those apps with Titanium Backup, use your phone as "normal" for a few days and if you don't have any issues or if you realize that you don't need them, then delete them...
Another solution is to rename the apps you don't want with the .bak extension, in case you need an app you can rename it by removing the .bak extension, reboot and the app is here

Data\app functionality based question.......

ok guyz i was building a rom through dsixda kitchen
i added data\app functionlaity but all those apps which i have moved to data\app are installed as user apps.I have included many apps in system\app folder so i added some apps to data\app so that they can be updated and i will have some space in system partition...but why are these apps are being installed as user apps.they all get removed if i do a data wipe...please help me or tell me a way of not allowing this to hapen
I don't know your question's answer but many devs outta there in XDA may know so please make the title more informative.
abhishekr700 said:
ok guyz i was building a rom through dsixda kitchen
i added data\app functionlaity but all those apps which i have moved to data\app are installed as user apps.I have included many apps in system\app folder so i added some apps to data\app so that they can be updated and i will have some space in system partition...but why are these apps are being installed as user apps.they all get removed if i do a data wipe...please help me or tell me a way of not allowing this to hapen
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All system apps sgould be in system/app.They are a bit hard to be deleted.
Whereas user apps can be easily uninstalled via settings or so.
You need user apps to be in data/app.
san122 said:
All system apps sgould be in system/app.They are a bit hard to be deleted.
Whereas user apps can be easily uninstalled via settings or so.
You need user apps to be in data/app.
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what if i have a system app that needs upgrading from market??
abhishekr700 said:
what if i have a system app that needs upgrading from market??
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then use link2sd to uninstall the system app - download it from market and then convert it to system app again with link2sd and restart if thats what you want to do
you can update system apps from market but they will not replace the system app - instead you have a duplicate app which means if you uninstall the update it will roll back to the version that orig system app was
if you want to overwrite the system app with the new version simply use link2sd to intergrate update into system then restart
marcussmith2626 said:
then use link2sd to uninstall the system app - download it from market and then convert it to system app again with link2sd and restart if thats what you want to do
you can update system apps from market but they will not replace the system app - instead you have a duplicate app which means if you uninstall the update it will roll back to the version that orig system app was
if you want to overwrite the system app with the new version simply use link2sd to intergrate update into system then restart
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that means when i was on stock rom annd updated apps like gmaill,maps etc then i got 2 vesions of same apps in my phone......
#feelingcheated
marcussmith2626 said:
then use link2sd to uninstall the system app - download it from market and then convert it to system app again with link2sd and restart if thats what you want to do
you can update system apps from market but they will not replace the system app - instead you have a duplicate app which means if you uninstall the update it will roll back to the version that orig system app was
if you want to overwrite the system app with the new version simply use link2sd to intergrate update into system then restart
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that means when i was on stock rom annd updated apps like gmaill,maps etc then i got 2 vesions of same apps in my phone......
#feelingcheated
abhishekr700 said:
that means when i was on stock rom annd updated apps like gmaill,maps etc then i got 2 vesions of same apps in my phone......
#feelingcheated
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yes in a sense
you will have the orig system app in system/app and then the new version stored in data
so if you uninstalled the new version it will roll back to the system app which you cannot uninstall by normal means (you can uninstall system apps with link2sd)
if you look through apps with link2sd anything with the word updated next to it in green means its a system app that has been updated by the user and so the update can be intergrated into system if you wish

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