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I rooted my S4 when it first came out and I have never updated it. It won't let me install the OTA updates, but I was wondering if there are any benefits to the updates and should I unroot and update? Much appreciated!
No need to unroot! Just do a system wipe and flash a custom ROM that has the newest version of 4.3 incorporated in it.
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scaryfaces said:
I rooted my S4 when it first came out and I have never updated it. It won't let me install the OTA updates, but I was wondering if there are any benefits to the updates and should I unroot and update? Much appreciated!
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I wouldn't update/take the OTA for MF3 if you are currently running AMDL firmware or previous older firmwares. The MF3 OTA update updates your bootloader and thus seals an exploit that blocks your device from using custom recoveries/kernels.
If you do take the OTA for MF3 for what ever reason do know that you can still flash custom ROM's by using safestrap after rooting it. Just don' attempt to flash any recoveries other than that provided by the app safestrap.
As for benefits on MF3? I haven't noticed many improvements IMO other than the official ability to use apps2sd. App2sd can be easily replaced by third party solutions. I suggest you stay rooted and install a custom recovery such as Philz touch, lastly, flash an MF3 based ROM via our android development section.
Good luck! =)
I did some searching of the forums, but didn't find what I was looking for. I have an AT&T S4, currently on the MDL firmware and rooted with TWRP. So that puts me two updates behind now and I'd really like to update.
So the question is, what would be the best way to go about updating to the latest official firmware, while retaining root? I can do without recovery if necessary, but I really want to keep root. I'd prefer to do this in a way where I avoid having to do a clean install and back up everything, then restore. I'd like to update in a way that keeps settings and applications as they are, as an official OTA update would do.
Is this possible?
Stay where you are and run a custom firmware!
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Stay where you are and run a custom firmware!
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I thought about it, but I actually like the Touchwiz ROMs, as odd as it may sound.
Why you flash a custom touch wiz rom? Trust me, only being able to root in a still sketchy/kinda legimate way is not worth it
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HiTideBlastoise said:
Why you flash a custom touch wiz rom? Trust me, only being able to root in a still sketchy/kinda legimate way is not worth it
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I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
Gamer_Josh said:
I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
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try this if you want to get back to 100% stock and update : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33953446&postcount=1 . Works on most Samsung devices
Gamer_Josh said:
I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
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Just wait, run StockUp, or a 4.3 rom for the international version. If you want Touchwiz, you can get one of those and if you really want the OTA wait until someone creates a version that doesn't update your bootloader so you can still have the option to change. If you really do want it, then flash the stock firmware and go through the updates, making sure you root after you get MF3 and then use SuperSU survival before updating to MK2.
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Just wait, run StockUp, or a 4.3 rom for the international version. If you want Touchwiz, you can get one of those and if you really want the OTA wait until someone creates a version that doesn't update your bootloader so you can still have the option to change. If you really do want it, then flash the stock firmware and go through the updates, making sure you root after you get MF3 and then use SuperSU survival before updating to MK2.
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Is there now a way to retain root when updating from MDL to MF3 via OTA? Becuase I already am stock, I just need to unfreeze the files that allow for OTA updating.
Yes there is a way.use Supersu pro and enable Survival mode and it will retain root .we would all move the world to go back to MDL is why people are trying to persuade you to use a rom. (ENVY)
ROOTED ATT MK2 using Tapatalk
I've been putting it off for a while. I'm flashed to cwm and still on TouchWiz. Is there a particular method to doing this system update? I want to get on kitkat and keep my root, or at least be able to get root access again afterwards.
Goes look in development section. .unknown has a stock rooted...random has a stock unrooted that's easy to root
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ibcenu said:
Goes look in development section. .unknown has a stock rooted...random has a stock unrooted that's easy to root
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I don't know what this means, in particular. Can you link me to something? I ran cyanogenmod up to 11 when my s3 died and have been out of the community for a bit. I just want to put the OTA kitkat update onto my phone and then get root.
nickgenova said:
I've been putting it off for a while. I'm flashed to cwm and still on TouchWiz. Is there a particular method to doing this system update? I want to get on kitkat and keep my root, or at least be able to get root access again afterwards.
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You can get on kitkat if you flash a kitkat rom or by odining stock NAE tar file (Please note that this will give you knox bootloader). If you visit Sacs Custom Rom 4.4.2 kitkat rom (link in my signature below). It will explain how to go from a previous version to his kitkat rom.
Basically, in a nutshell...you need to have the NAE modem (which is explained in the thread) and specific recoveries to use during flashing. Visit the thread to find out more
Okay so I've been noticing a lot of threads lately asking kk this, kk that, kk them, etc. So I decided to make a thread to help some people and reduce the amount of repetitive questions on the Q&A and will try to keep it up to date during my free time.
Getting KK-
Flashing Guide
How to Flash to Stock
If the kitkat kdz file for your device is not there you can look in here:
KitKat KDZ's
Multiple Stock KDZ's/TOT's
D800
Flash KitKat the Easy Way
Flash the LGFlashTool way
D801 T-Mobile
Flash Via Recovery
D803
Post #10 has KDZ
LS980
Flash OTA with TWRP
VS980
ota install
vzw kdz link
Why it shows rooted download mode after flashing KitKat kdz/rom-
4.4.2 Root Checker
Unrooting and unrooted download mode:
How to unroot
Show unrooted in download mode
Next is root and recovery-
IOroot has been updated to v25 and can root most devices on kk IOroot25
T-Mobile's D801 is having problems with root on 4.4.2 because of issues with stock recovery, but they have a dedicated thread which you can check out and read often to see if they figure out how to root it
Recovery is now available without all the downgrading hassle, as long as you rooted with ioroot25 you can:
1) check out Cloudy's AutoRec to download and install custom recovery on KitKat
2) for Verizon g2 owners only you can check out Freedom Tools
If you want kk, root and custom recovery then try the following(once I can find them for other models, if anybody can share a link i'll update with other models):
D800
PowerUser
D80020c Stock
D80020k Stock Rooted
D801
t-mo recovery/root/kernels
D802
d802 flashable kk
D801/D803(Claro, Rogers, Others)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611749 (I haven't tried this/don't have the device so do so at your own risk)
VS980
Xdabbeb's Rom
Custom Kit Kat Roms
DPI Rom
Spiderio's 380 DPI Rom
Wireless Tethering:
@xdabbeb Hotspot Provision (VS980 kk only)
D800 SQLite Method
There are also custom kernels for kk-
D80X/LS980/VS980
Dorimanx Kernel
D80X/VS980/F320
SimpleKernel
D801
dr87 kernel
JassyKernel
D802
Piasek Kernel
Xposed
Xposed Installer
Xposed Mods
G2 Xposed
G2 TweaksBox
Camera Mods
Xdabbeb's Camera Mod
Jishnu's Camera Mod
Sound Mods
SonyXperiaWalkman Mod
Mods
New Features
LG Pie Support
Bugs/Fixes(When I have more time I'll add more as I find them)
Apparently there is a bug in which when using auxiliary cables/headphones where there is a crackling/hissing sound in the background, I cannot comment on this since I have not experienced it and I use auxiliary cables every weekend for dj stuff and I also use headphones at least once everyday. There is now a fix for this using G2TweaksBox
So I remember from the very beginning everyone complained that there battery was being drained by Bluetooth right after flash without ever wiping/factory resetting, but I have been using kitkat for about two months now and if after 12 hours it's used 5% then wow that's not a drain, the Bluetooth now works in a low energy state just like Wi-Fi so that even if it's off it's always on in a low energy state which means its not draining your battery.
When I have more time I will add more stuff that is stock kit kat related
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After rooting stock KK with ioroot25, isn't it possible to install a recovery? you just need to flash a patched kernel with loki enabled after flashing the recovery to boot back into "stock" rom
thenorm89 said:
After rooting stock KK with ioroot25, isn't it possible to install a recovery? you just need to flash a patched kernel with loki enabled after flashing the recovery to boot back into "stock" rom
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No the kit Kat bootloader patched our recovery/Loki exploit, if it were that easy there wouldn't be so many people bricking their devices on kk after getting root
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app
thenorm89 said:
After rooting stock KK with ioroot25, isn't it possible to install a recovery? you just need to flash a patched kernel with loki enabled after flashing the recovery to boot back into "stock" rom
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The only way is to have recovery on JB then flash Kk baseband for your variant and one of the Kk roms that use the patched kernel. Those Kk roms are mixed firmwares that use parts from Jb to make them work with the kernel and recovery and make sure loki is not broken. So that is why recovery can't be installed on full stock rooted Kk.
EDIT- There are now root and recovery methods/installers for stock KK. Mixed firmware is still used to keep JB bootstack.
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Bugs(When I have more time I'll add more as I find them)
Apparently there is a bug in which when using auxiliary cables/headphones where there is a crackling/hissing sound in the background, I cannot comment on this since I have not experienced it and I use auxiliary cables every weekend for dj stuff and I also use headphones at least once everyday.
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For now, this bug can be fixed by:
P_Toti said:
How can i fully fix headset issues ?
1)Copy this file to system/etc/
2)Open G2 TweaksBox------------>Sound Tweaks--------------->Fix Hissing Headset issues
3)Reboot and Enjoy(If you have rebooted with the headsets plugged in remember to unplug them because the mod is activated when you plugin the headset.)
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G2 TweaksBox thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549923
[Q] If there are OTA updates by LG(e.g. addition of knockcode), and I am rooted on stock kikat with stock recovery, can I take the update?
aerobean said:
For now, this bug can be fixed by:
G2 TweaksBox thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549923
[Q] If there are OTA updates by LG(e.g. addition of knockcode), and I am rooted on stock kikat with stock recovery, can I take the update?
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Yes you can ota as long as you don't have custom recovery but if you have modified any part of the system like removed bloat, xposed, etc the update will fail
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app
My phone is showing in the battery menu that bluetooth is using 3 percent of battery. Says has been on for 12hours but I have not used and is not actively checked. No BT logo in status bar.. Am I missing something?
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My phone is showing in the battery menu that bluetooth is using 3 percent of battery. Says has been on for 12hours but I have not used and is not actively checked. No BT logo in status bar.. Am I missing something?
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ok so for some reason for the first few weeks the Bluetooth reports a false positive(it reports a lot of hours of use but it's not actually draining your battery), if you actually use Bluetooth on a daily basis it will eventually stop giving out the false positive, mines stopped reporting 7-15 hours and now only reports around 2-4 hours which is the actual use I give it on a daily basis
I appreciate the fast response. Sounds like I'll wait it out and see what happens but that's good too know it's a false positive. Thanks again!
So once i go through the process of installing 24a bootstack can i just flash any kk rom now?
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So once i go through the process of installing 24a bootstack can i just flash any kk rom now?
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well seeing as that's the official bootstack you should be able to flash any official kk rom(stock, flex, pro) but I am not too sure if it plays well with aosp
Ok I'm sorry for being a noob but it's been a while since I've done anything root related. So I'm rooted on Verizon LG g2 and can download the update on my phone no problem. However I get an error when installing, does this mean I have to go back to stock first?
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fjgotgame24 said:
Ok I'm sorry for being a noob but it's been a while since I've done anything root related. So I'm rooted on Verizon LG g2 and can download the update on my phone no problem. However I get an error when installing, does this mean I have to go back to stock first?
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What's the error you are getting and you might have to go back to stock, have you removed bloat or modified the system partition?
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I removed bloatware
XxZombiePikachu said:
What's the error you are getting and you might have to go back to stock, have you removed bloat or modified the system partition?
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I removed bloatware
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then that is the reason you can't flash the ota you only have two options either flash back to stock or restore the bloatware
So weird I used titanium backup to back up and delete bloatware but there no where to be round...guess I'll have to flash the stock Rom, do I just look for the verizon model in the Rom page and I'm good?
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Also another thing is ive now downloaded the update twice but i have no clue where they go. If i dl it again is the file just taking up space somewhere?
fjgotgame24 said:
So weird I used titanium backup to back up and delete bloatware but there no where to be round...guess I'll have to flash the stock Rom, do I just look for the verizon model in the Rom page and I'm good?
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Also another thing is ive now downloaded the update twice but i have no clue where they go. If i dl it again is the file just taking up space somewhere?
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if you are using a root browser they should be located in cache/fota there should be a dlpkgfile, a script and some other files and also are do you have custom recovery sounds like you want to flash a stock rom? Also you want to use this to flash back to stock
I do not have custom recovery
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fjgotgame24 said:
I do not have custom recovery
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well all you need to do is flash back to stock or you can try upgrading using the Verizon upgrade assistant which is now updating devices to kk
so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
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so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
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I want to upgrade from MLG to NC2 too. However, there is no direct way to do it at the moment.
However, if you are still at A2, you can use Safestrap to switch between MJ5 and NC2 (Please don't flash NC2 aboot.mbn!!!!!!)
Yes there is just do the mj5 restore that is in this section then follow one of the guides on how to install the ota
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As Jerrycoffman said. . . .
Restore back to MJ5 using this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Don't root using the last part. It removes knox which will block you from being able to update the phone.
Next there will be a OTA to install its around 60mb. This is NB4
Lastly, just download kitkat OTA that's available. This may take sometime because it is a larger file size.
A lot of people have had issues installing the Kitkat OTA (including me). It fails at a certain percentage.
If you have this problem just follow this guide to fix it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701062
Make sure you back up any apps and files you need before starting this
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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Agree 100%!!!
mutantblack said:
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
jreed3786 said:
There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
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i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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As far as I know, that's a NO.
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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Isis can work on kit kat. I had it working but changed to wallet out of principal
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Best solution:
Go to Best Buy and ask one of the Samsung people to get you to stock, in less than 10 to 15 minutes you'll be in OTA Kit Kat.
No reason to have OTA kitkat when you lose root.
I use ISIS daily with the following mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425346