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Hey guys,
So I've googled around for this issue but I still have a question that no other thread I've found seems to answer.
A few weeks ago I rooted my Razr M. I froze a couple of the verizon apps (like the google chrome bookmarks) and backed up and deleted the amazon apps, IMDB, and Audible apps with titanium. When the new OTA was released this week I restored and thawed all of those apps, but the OTA wouldn't install. It reached about 1/4 through the bar of Andy and then he would be on his side with the caution sign. The phone would reboot and say that the installation failed. I decided to unroot, thinking that may have been the cause, but I still got the same error. From there I did a factory reset, and I'm still getting the same error.
Here's my question: I saw on a couple threads that a factory reset doesn't restore everything in /system, which is where I'm worried there's a discrepancy that isn't allowing the update. Is there a way to do a harder reset that will completely bring the phone back to stock?
I'm currently on System version 98.12.4.XT907.Verizon.en.US if that helps. Android 4.1.1. Baseband version is SM_BP_1139.000.32.62P.
JadedRescue said:
Hey guys,
So I've googled around for this issue but I still have a question that no other thread I've found seems to answer.
A few weeks ago I rooted my Razr M. I froze a couple of the verizon apps (like the google chrome bookmarks) and backed up and deleted the amazon apps, IMDB, and Audible apps with titanium. When the new OTA was released this week I restored and thawed all of those apps, but the OTA wouldn't install. It reached about 1/4 through the bar of Andy and then he would be on his side with the caution sign. The phone would reboot and say that the installation failed. I decided to unroot, thinking that may have been the cause, but I still got the same error. From there I did a factory reset, and I'm still getting the same error.
Here's my question: I saw on a couple threads that a factory reset doesn't restore everything in /system, which is where I'm worried there's a discrepancy that isn't allowing the update. Is there a way to do a harder reset that will completely bring the phone back to stock?
I'm currently on System version 98.12.4.XT907.Verizon.en.US if that helps. Android 4.1.1. Baseband version is SM_BP_1139.000.32.62P.
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Sounds like you did not defrost those system apps using titanium backup before you factory reset. I would restore from your stock backup and unfreeze those apps with titanium and try the ota again. The OTA checks for certain bloatware apps before it will allow it to install the update.
slogar25 said:
Sounds like you did not defrost those system apps using titanium backup before you factory reset. I would restore from your stock backup and unfreeze those apps with titanium and try the ota again. The OTA checks for certain bloatware apps before it will allow it to install the update.
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I definitely did defrost those apps.
I'm having the same issue. Stops at about 1/4 of the way and then restarts. I'm gonna try it again without my Rogers(non-verizon) sim card and see if it works. Maybe it checks which sim card is being used.
EDIT: Didn't work, sim card irrelevant.
If you really want the ota then why don't you try mattlgroff's utility here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39576818
It will return you back to completely stock with one click and then you should be able to take the ota and reroot unlock if desired
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RSD
vLegend said:
I'm having the same issue. Stops at about 1/4 of the way and then restarts. I'm gonna try it again without my Rogers(non-verizon) sim card and see if it works. Maybe it checks which sim card is being used.
EDIT: Didn't work, sim card irrelevant.
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I tried using Mattlgroff's method (which i'm sure is fine for most) but seems to be geared towards linux users mostly, and I ran into some issues. I have always used RSD to get back to stock and never had an issue. Check it out How To Restore Stock Firmware on Razr M. This will hard restore your phone to the factory image, as well as unroot it, no need to unfreeze or reinstall bloat. It will also obviously erase the internal SD card contents so make sure you back those up.
Yeah looks like slogar25 and cliMAKtic are right. I tried a few more things and its not working. I'll do an rsd in the next couple days and try the ota again.
I'm going to try rsd sometime tonight, I'll let everyone know how it goes. Thanks for all the help!!
I like rsd too. The point is to return too stock.
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Same issue, stops 1/4 of the way through.
Flashing back to stock with the RAZR M utility 1.10 once my phone hits 100% battery (at 93% now). Will let you know if I can take the update after.
Keep in mind
RSD is great to get back to clean stock, but keep in mind that it will remove your root. After taking the OTA update, you will be running firmware v4.1.2. If you used MotoFail2Go exploit to root your phone originally you should note that the exploit apparently does not work for the updated firmware. Instead you should use motochopper, an updated exploit that works on 4.1.2 to root your phone, developed by Drjbliss over at Droidrzr.
I honestly don't care too much about being unrooted at this point anyway, having root wasn't doing too much for me. I managed to get back to the original stock ICS using RSD and everything worked out! Downloaded one update to 4.1.1, then the second update to 4.1.2, and everything went swimmingly.
Thank you so much for all your help everyone!
"Service Unavailable - Software update is temporarily unavailable. Try again later."
I swear every phone I've had, at one point or another, gets this message when I try to update. Nothing fixes it, I've tried it all. Only way I've gotten 93% of updates since my Eris is manually installing. In fact I think my first XDA post was how to resolve this, and I just had to do it myself.
So I found the stock KK ROM and, once again, will use Odin to install it and re-root, but why does this always happen? A few times, whatever. Almost all the time, thank God for XDA. Every time....ok what's going on? I backup and FDR before every update to be sure it's as clean as possible.
I've always rooted, but otherwise don't do anything. Is this just me? Does this happen a lot to other people? Is it purely coincidence? I can't find hardly any threads about it for the Note 3...
Basically....WTH?!?!
Last I checked, OTA isn't supposed to work when you're rooted...
ShadowLea said:
Last I checked, OTA isn't supposed to work when you're rooted...
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The thing with that is I have gotten OTA's when rooted, even ones that removed root. That may have been a phone or two ago though. But the majority of the time I get this. I just don't get it, does everyone else with root only install updates manually? Maybe I should try one of those apps that temporarily unroots so you can install an update...
k1ng r4t said:
"Service Unavailable - Software update is temporarily unavailable. Try again later."
I swear every phone I've had, at one point or another, gets this message when I try to update. Nothing fixes it, I've tried it all. Only way I've gotten 93% of updates since my Eris is manually installing. In fact I think my first XDA post was how to resolve this, and I just had to do it myself.
So I found the stock KK ROM and, once again, will use Odin to install it and re-root, but why does this always happen? A few times, whatever. Almost all the time, thank God for XDA. Every time....ok what's going on? I backup and FDR before every update to be sure it's as clean as possible.
I've always rooted, but otherwise don't do anything. Is this just me? Does this happen a lot to other people? Is it purely coincidence? I can't find hardly any threads about it for the Note 3...
Basically....WTH?!?!
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OTA is not working when phone is rooted, unroot your phone and try to update.
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k1ng r4t said:
The thing with that is I have gotten OTA's when rooted, even ones that removed root. That may have been a phone or two ago though. But the majority of the time I get this. I just don't get it, does everyone else with root only install updates manually? Maybe I should try one of those apps that temporarily unroots so you can install an update...
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These days, Root = No OTA.
The old method was : Enable survival mode in SuperSU (Pro needed) --> Disable Superuser --> Reboot --> Install OTA --> Reboot --> Re-enable Superuser --> Disable survivor mode.
Not sure if it still works though.
I didnt see a thread already but my G3 started downloading an update this morning without me accepting or saying anything at all. Obviously with Root and TWRP(Bump) I did not want this. I pulled down the notification bar long pressed on the update download, hit app info, then force stopped the app. I went into Titanium backup, made a backup of System Updates 1_13_10_0 then uninstalled it. I don't know if the download will come back but I don't think so. Also the update was 220ish MB and I have no issues with the phone after uninstalling this. Sorry I didnt get a chance to take a picture of the update since it was almost done lol.
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I have the System Updates App frozen in Ti BU. Haven't gotten any hint of an update and I hope it stays that way.
Same thing happened to me it tried installing the update all on its own luckily it said waiting for wifi network to update so I froze the system updates app with titanium back up.
RyanEJ25, I experienced the same thing as you. I have a Verizon LG G3 (vs985), rooted.
Trying to get more info on this system update and what it contains. I don't think it's Android 5.0 lollipop update, but more like a Verizon bug update/improvements.
I tried to run the system update that was downloaded via WIFI, but it failed due to my LG g3 being rooted.
Before I go down the path of backing everything, unrooting and upgrading and then re-rooting, just wanted to make sure the update is worthwhile.
-Kevin
RyanEJ25 said:
I didnt see a thread already but my G3 started downloading an update this morning without me accepting or saying anything at all. Obviously with Root and TWRP(Bump) I did not want this. I pulled down the notification bar long pressed on the update download, hit app info, then force stopped the app. I went into Titanium backup, made a backup of System Updates 1_13_10_0 then uninstalled it. I don't know if the download will come back but I don't think so. Also the update was 220ish MB and I have no issues with the phone after uninstalling this. Sorry I didnt get a chance to take a picture of the update since it was almost done lol.
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trailrunner76 said:
RyanEJ25, I experienced the same thing as you. I have a Verizon LG G3 (vs985), rooted.
Trying to get more info on this system update and what it contains. I don't think it's Android 5.0 lollipop update, but more like a Verizon bug update/improvements.
I tried to run the system update that was downloaded via WIFI, but it failed due to my LG g3 being rooted.
Before I go down the path of backing everything, unrooting and upgrading and then re-rooting, just wanted to make sure the update is worthwhile.
-Kevin
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The main thing that threw me off was that USB charge modes have changed. Charge and internet connection are removed from PC connections other than that its general improvements to the keyboard and docs and stuff.
You can temp unroot, take the update, then reroot assuming Verizon didn't load a bullet that kills root.
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I'd tend to avoid the update, at least for now, if you want to keep root and twrp. Seems to be a number of people mentioning issues, including trouble reverting to 10b.
I also froze "System updates" with TiBU, going to stay on 10b until things clear up. Freezing that app seems to do the trick.
Why are you posting here, instead of the Verizon forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general
If you take the update, you can't re-root and you can't roll back.
Some people have maintained root after updating.
The 5.0 update is being forced onto me like crazy. Right now I am quite upset at whomever is developing Android, I guess google, not very knowledgable about it. Anyway, it's worse than Microsoft in forcing the update down my throat.
It started with the notification, which I could not get rid of no matter what I tried, but I lived with it. Then, android *insert censor word here* me by downloading the entire update in the background while on mobile data. I'm pretty much now at my limit, and I still have 25 days to go in the billing cycle. And now apparently since it's downloaded, it keeps "refreshing" my notification that the update is downloaded and ready to install, which I am afraid that if I ever need to restart my phone (freeze, etc), it will automatically install it, risking my data.
How can I stop the update?
First, can anyone please tell me how can I find the OS update folder to delete the update that was downloaded? I believe in doing so it will not automatically update if I need to restart my phone.
2nd, is there a way to stop the notification? Basically I want to update my OS when I am ready to 5.0.
Currently running Vanilla OS, 4.4.4
Thank you.
Google officially maintains android.... It's the one who has built lollipop... No. It will keep forcing you.. If you have root.. Check in the root folder for the downloaded OS and erase it.. That should help I think
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Do I have to root my phone in order to have access to the folder where the download was downloaded?
Messerschmitt262 said:
Do I have to root my phone in order to have access to the folder where the download was downloaded?
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I just ignore the update messages at every new update. I don't dare do any updates at version .0 until at least the next release and when all apps have been updated as well; who needs the headache. Now if indeed the OS would eventually update itself without my knowledge, that would be very, very troubling as I might not have the most recent nandroid and titanium backups, but that has never happened to me in the past.
Without root, you can press the update notification, tap app info, and the untick show notifications. The problem with this is that you will stop all notifications from google play services. If you get root, than you should install xposed and then install the notify clean module, which will hide the update notification and only the update notification, nothing else.
My problem is now that the update has already been downloaded, and I am afraid that if I will ever need to restart the phone, it will automatically start updating at the next boot.
That is what I did until now, I ignored the update messages, but it somehow got pushed into my phone.
Messerschmitt262 said:
My problem is now that the update has already been downloaded, and I am afraid that if I will ever need to restart the phone, it will automatically start updating at the next boot.
That is what I did until now, I ignored the update messages, but it somehow got pushed into my phone.
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Back up your phone and clean it off. I had 5.0 on my phone for exactly 24 hours before I wiped it and started over. Did not like it at all.
I went from 4.2.2 to 5, no looking back. My Nexus has had a new lease of life. The battery was barely lasting a day and it's now 30% better! No bugs or issues, it's running as smooth as a baby's bottom. Only one of my (free) apps isn't compatible, I can cope with that.
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I just want to delete the already downloaded update. Could anyone point me in the right direction how I can do that?
Messerschmitt262 said:
I just want to delete the already downloaded update. Could anyone point me in the right direction how I can do that?
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/cache/
Since that folder is empty, I assume I will have to root my phone?
I have the Verizon SGP561 running Android 4.4.2 rooted with PhilZ Touch & CWM & TWRP installed. I just received notice of an OS update. Has anyone else receive this and know what it is? I hesitate to take any updates and don't want to lose root.
OK--- Just found this to answer one of the questions --
OTA update 23.0.1.E.0.208 also includes "optimized touch sensitivity," better performance for users who encrypt their tablet, improved support for TalkBack (Google's accessibility service for the visually impaired), and minor UI tweaks to fonts, icons, and layouts. None of it is particularly crucial, and no , it doesn't include an update to Android: Verizon's version of the Tablet Z2 is running the same build of Android 4.4 that is was back in July. But it's hard to be too miffed about that, since the Wi-Fi version of the Tablet Z2 hasn't been upgraded to Lollipop, either.
Now the question is will I lose root if I apply it...
I would also like to know if we would lose root with this update.
Varekai said:
I would also like to know if we would lose root with this update.
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i took the plunge and tried it...
i used the supersu and used survival mode and installed as a system app
I am STILL ROOTED
Thanks! Except I've tried 4 times to update and keep getting failed. Using stock recovery so not sure what's going on.
Varekai said:
Thanks! Except I've tried 4 times to update and keep getting failed. Using stock recovery so not sure what's going on.
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I didn't change my recovery, I only rooted it yesterday and then 20min later enabled su as system app and then survival mode and applied update. No issues here
So far running good, however when I go into settings and tick on airplane mode it actually doesn't goto airplane mode. The only way I can get air plane mode is by holding the power button and selecting air plane mode.
Not sure if this is a error with root or glitch with the new update.
We now have a reboot option tho (not like I have ever needed it on this awesome tab)
On mine the update fails. Says "There was a problem with the update..." As I said, I am on 4.4.2 using NUTs dual recovery and root. I install SuperSu as a system app .
It makes me disappointed I spent money on the sixaxis controller on play store to not figure out how it works for the Z2 tablet a month prior to this update.
Maybe I could use it on other non-Sony devices?
Since my system update thing doesn't work, is there another way of acquiring and applying this update?
TheGrayson said:
Since my system update thing doesn't work, is there another way of acquiring and applying this update?
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You can use this software to download the ftf file and flash it manually using flashtool http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...perifirm-xperia-firmware-downloader-t2834142/ (will lose data and root)
Update: I've found a way to update the latest version without losing root and posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...et-verizon-t3054700/post59440416#post59440416
Any idea on a lollipop update compatible with the sgp561?