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Hey guys,
2 weeks ago I bought a brand new galaxy note 2, but by now I already have some scratches on the back cover and some on the steel cornering? So is it just misusage or is it that Samsung have easily scratched covers? And I only dropped the phone like once so I don't think that all of these scratches came from misusage... Any ideas?
I had a sgs2 before and it got totally destructed by scratches and tearings...
Are you carrying diamond tipped nails in your pocket?
I have had my note 1 for 9 months and have dropped it a couple of times on concrete and ceramic tiled floors and it still looks 99% brand new. I don't usually put anything else with it in my pockets but it has come in contact with keys on several occasions.
Do you live in a sandy area? How do you carry it normally on your person?
Now that you mention it, I have a nasty scratch on my back cover too.
Never had a problem with my Note 1. I wonder if it is the glossy coating.
I'm using a case now though - much nicer to hold with a textured back.
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
Now that you mention it, I have a nasty scratch on my back cover too.
Never had a problem with my Note 1. I wonder if it is the glossy coating.
I'm using a case now though - much nicer to hold with a textured back.
- Frank
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I really wish Samsung wouldve put a rubberized backing on the note II considering it'd have less of a chance to slip out of your hands which is pretty high considering how big this phone is...
ali madan said:
Hey guys,
2 weeks ago I bought a brand new galaxy note 2, but by now I already have some scratches on the back cover and some on the steel cornering? So is it just misusage or is it that Samsung have easily scratched covers? And I only dropped the phone like once so I don't think that all of these scratches came from misusage... Any ideas?
I had a sgs2 before and it got totally destructed by scratches and tearings...
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In your case, I'd suggest you check out Otterbox cases when they become available for the Note 2.
Well I think if samsung uses steel or aluminum cases like nokia our phone would feel and look better and will still remain in excellent condition even after couple of drops.. But unfortunately samsung uses glossy plastic which might not break as easily but will definitly not remain a "new phone" definition after a month or two...
Mad383Max said:
Are you carrying diamond tipped nails in your pocket?
I have had my note 1 for 9 months and have dropped it a couple of times on concrete and ceramic tiled floors and it still looks 99% brand new. I don't usually put anything else with it in my pockets but it has come in contact with keys on several occasions.
Do you live in a sandy area? How do you carry it normally on your person?
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Well the area Im living in is just a huge sand box! I mean sand everywhere! It might of contacted sand but I don't think that it this contact can cause such scratches...
Been using my GN2 for almost a week now with heavy usage and I don't a single scratch. I'm pretty sure it's just one those things where YMMV.
ali madan said:
Hey guys,
2 weeks ago I bought a brand new galaxy note 2, but by now I already have some scratches on the back cover and some on the steel cornering? So is it just misusage or is it that Samsung have easily scratched covers? And I only dropped the phone like once so I don't think that all of these scratches came from misusage... Any ideas?
I had a sgs2 before and it got totally destructed by scratches and tearings...
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Welcome to Samsung.
Would you like it with a serving of flimsy plastic?
Misusage ! I'm a plumber/tiler and always working in messy environments yet my note is in perfect condition. Also this device is made from polycarbonate the same stuff nokia and htc use and not flimsy plastic .
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Does anyone notice a distorted solarised texture on the white version of the back cover?
Livebyte said:
Welcome to Samsung.
Would you like it with a serving of flimsy plastic?
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Stop your childish Samsung bashing!
It's annoying to read your useless posts everywhere...
Write constructive criticism or leave it!
What are you the samsung police?
Give it a rest officer, if the gn2 has a back thats like the gs3 then yes its flimsy. samsung is notorious for cutting corners likr this to save money.
But with that said its usualy to provide better quality in other aspects.
If your tired of reading opinions you dont agree with why are you reading them?
To op and any one else sand is your worst enemy, it will scratch your phone everywhere, including the gg2 screen.
Sand bad.
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I like build quality. Example back door now clicks harder and is not easy scratchble like my s3(blue). Home button now easy to press
And display don't have it any more that background black spots. (which is available on any amoled screens)
Very happy.
People complain about plastic being a poor build quality choice. It's just a matter of opinion. I don't feel that it has to be metal/aluminum/whatever to be nice build quality. If anything, I feel plastic is more durable, lighter, and we get awesome internals. People don't complain about the mass amount of plastic BMW uses everywhere in their cars, but people also don't know enough to realize it.
ali madan said:
Well I think if samsung uses steel or aluminum cases like nokia our phone would feel and look better and will still remain in excellent condition even after couple of drops.. But unfortunately samsung uses glossy plastic which might not break as easily but will definitly not remain a "new phone" definition after a month or two...
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That is an amazing idea! The Iphone 5 has an aluminum back and has absolutely zero issues with scratches or chips. Some of them even come out of the box flawless.
freakboy13 said:
If your tired of reading opinions you dont agree with why are you reading them?
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How can someone know they don't agree with an opinion unless they read it?
duowing said:
People complain about plastic being a poor build quality choice. It's just a matter of opinion. I don't feel that it has to be metal/aluminum/whatever to be nice build quality. If anything, I feel plastic is more durable, lighter, and we get awesome internals. People don't complain about the mass amount of plastic BMW uses everywhere in their cars, but people also don't know enough to realize it.
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Exactly. People also don't know that the cover of a lot of phones are also actually plastic, just with a different coating to make it feel "premium". I could care less if its plastic and flimsy, there's a reason for it being that way. Its more durable.
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You already answered your question:Its missusage,I myself am very though user but I dont remember any of my Phones ever had a scratch.
bashinbg
i love it how people bash samsung its tipacal in every phone put a cover expecial on a device like this a cover is a must
i sold my galaxy s2 like brand new not a single scratch had it for 9 months i just use a cover
Some swedish site is saying htc ine has Gorilla Glas 3 ?
Which is true?
Herees the link:
http://translate.googleusercontent....ALkJrhjKmYVTg7d_HI2W5LbMmpcFYWMHDQ#more-73077
AW: Gorilla glas 2 or 3
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I prefer Baboon Glass 37.
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Made my night
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It has gorilla glass 2!
Source: HTC Sales Official
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It has gorilla glass 2!
Source: HTC Sales Official
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I second that :good:
HTC One X is GG2 right? Is this true?
whats the point 2 or 3??? you can easily break even gorilla glass...its fragile like every glass...the important is also body and the whole shock resistance and luck ofcourse all my phones with gorilla was fine without any scratches but my fault so be calm its good enought
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whats the point 2 or 3??? you can easily break even gorilla glass...its fragile like every glass...the important is also body and the whole shock resistance and luck ofcourse all my phones with gorilla was fine without any scratches but my fault so be calm its good enought
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The main advantage is that they can reduce the thickness of the glass while keeping the strength at least the same. This means screen closer to the surface so you get that "floating image" effect like on the One X and One (and to a slightly lesser extent the Nexus 4)
really doesnt care about it...got SGS3 and was satisfied with it...
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really doesnt care about it...got SGS3 and was satisfied with it...
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What we're talking about here is the gg2 or gg3 on the One. Not on gs3. Why would we even bother about gs3's screen here?
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Brac20 said:
The main advantage is that they can reduce the thickness of the glass while keeping the strength at least the same. This means screen closer to the surface so you get that "floating image" effect like on the One X and One (and to a slightly lesser extent the Nexus 4)
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Yeah, at the end of the day it will still smash if it hits the ground the wrong way, and sand will still scratch it. That's why I still use cases and screen protectors.
I'm interested to know how much it will cost to replace the screen of the one if it does get smashed, have just recently paid €160 to get my girlfriends SGS3 screen replaced
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angeloalonzo01 said:
What we're talking about here is the gg2 or gg3 on the One. Not on gs3. Why would we even bother about gs3's screen here?
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SGS3 uses GG2. So it's actually related. Anyways, GG3 should be stronger than GG2 while at same thickness but production will come later on the year. It was only announced a couple of days ago.
Just saw it on Twitter. Metal body removable 3000 mah battery 801 and 2 gb RAM
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Man, I hope not. And, yes, I'm serious. Plastic is a better material for a phone. Doesn't dent, better reception, lighter...
I don't mind the metal body actually. Pretty neat.
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Interesting
Thats pretty interesting because if this is a metal body then where will the antennas go for reception. for example on the htc m8 and m7 the had plastic lines on the back so they could put the antennas but this phone doesnt have any? hmmm very interesting.
PlatinumNick said:
Thats pretty interesting because if this is a metal body then where will the antennas go for reception. for example on the htc m8 and m7 the had plastic lines on the back so they could put the antennas but this phone doesnt have any? hmmm very interesting.
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Buttons, camera and the sensors maybe?
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Buttons, camera and the sensors maybe?
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yeah that could be, the power button does look like it will be aluminum as well but we shall see i dont think there that ignorant lol
I prefer plastic if it's gonna be lighter. Polycarbonate is still more durable than metals imho.
However, I hope we don't have glossy finishings on the G3.
Anyways, the post says 2GB RAM, which we all know is untrue. How to trust that twitter post?
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I prefer plastic if it's gonna be lighter. Polycarbonate is still more durable than metals imho.
However, I hope we don't have glossy finishings on the G3.
Anyways, the post says 2GB RAM, which we all know is untrue. How to trust that twitter post?
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well i believe it is true there are going to be two different varients a 2gb and 3gb
Also says light and the weight of the phone is accommodates identical to gs5
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Well yea.. our local SG site also reported this, taken from a dutch site (prolly the same)
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-lgs-website-reveals-full-specs-and-photos-g3-smartphone
Hopefully they do have 2 variants running concurrently.. as 3GB would be a nice upgrade.
Also, metallic cover and wireless charging don't go together. I wonder how it works here...
From metal might be the phone frame that supports all the component, just like Xperia Z1 and Z2 and not the whole body like HTC One. I bet the silver frame we can see in the pictures is the metal they are talking about.
Please continue discussion about pre-launch, rumors, leaks on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614507
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http://youtu.be/aTpFTifoMks
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http://youtu.be/aTpFTifoMks
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I'd choose a Sony over that every single time!
Where is the glass part of the phone btw? This phone is just like all the others, while Sony has a back and front plate made out of glass.
that's one chunky
Dsteppa said:
I'd choose a Sony over that every single time!
Where is the glass part of the phone btw? This phone is just like all the others, while Sony has a back and front plate made out of glass.
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Did you watch the video with your eyes open?
One side of every mobile phone made, is glass, you know, so you can see through it to the information on the display! It would be quite problematic if they placed a plastic, rubber or metal casing over the phones actual lcd display as you would not be able to interact with its touch capabilities nor would you be able to see the screen!
My post is only talking purely about the glass.
I have a z3 compact and love it. However the glass is not resilient enough.
Imagine if on the iteration of the z4 Sony used this glass, front and back, then just increased the thickness of the nylon corners by 1-2mm so that when placed flat on a surface this was the only part that touched.
Close to perfection! Naked phone all day everyday ☺
That's one chunky and ugly phone! But at least I'd trust the glass more than I do the Z3c's
Funny thing is, many people's iPhones, Xperias, Galaxies etc. end up looking just as chunky and ugly when wrapped with big ol' cases for protection :laugh:
Woza72 said:
Did you watch the video with your eyes open?
One side of every mobile phone made, is glass, you know, so you can see through it to the information on the display! It would be quite problematic if they placed a plastic, rubber or metal casing over the phones actual lcd display as you would not be able to interact with its touch capabilities nor would you be able to see the screen!
My post is only talking purely about the glass.
I have a z3 compact and love it. However the glass is not resilient enough.
Imagine if on the iteration of the z4 Sony used this glass, front and back, then just increased the thickness of the nylon corners by 1-2mm so that when placed flat on a surface this was the only part that touched.
Close to perfection! Naked phone all day everyday ☺
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It was 5am when I watched the video. Anyways... What I meant was, Sony has one front and rear glass body, while that phone has only the front part that's made out of glass, that's why I said that the phone is similar to other phones out there. The rear of the phone you linked takes most of the impact when the phone falls. Glass can take less hits (Sony front and rear)
In the end it doesn't matter if the phone is shatterproof/breakproof/waterproof. It's proof until a certain point.
It really doesn't matter if the/a phone is made out of diamonds, it will never be indestructible.
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Dsteppa said:
It was 5am when I watched the video. Anyways... What I meant was, Sony has one front and rear glass body, while that phone has only the front part that's made out of glass, that's why I said that the phone is similar to other phones out there. The rear of the phone you linked takes most of the impact when the phone falls. Glass can take less hits (Sony front and rear)
In the end it doesn't matter if the phone is shatterproof/breakproof/waterproof. It's proof until a certain point.
It really doesn't matter if the/a phone is made out of diamonds, it will never be indestructible.
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Sometimes I don't know why I bother, some people just look for the black clouds in everything!
Woza72 said:
Sometimes I don't know why I bother, some people just look for the black clouds in everything!
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Exactly! Hence the title of this topic. This is a Sony section, I don't see what you can/want to reach by posting such a video here.
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Dsteppa said:
Exactly! Hence the title of this topic. This is a Sony section, I don't see what you can/want to reach by posting such a video here.
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OMG here come the clouds!
I actually get what you mean, and it would certainly be nice seeing something like that on a smartphone with 2 glass sides, but it would be really expensive. The off-contract price for Z3 Compact is already $500+, if both sides had a sapphire glass it would cost $700 or most likely more (especially since Sony does not produce their own sapphire glass). And the sapphire glass, while scratch-proof, can still break during certain impacts, as the video has shown. I'd rather see Sony use a better quality glass - not a sapphire but something which doesn't crack during normal usage, like some Z3C's currently do
This thread is pointless.
A Phone with sapphire front and backpanel, as thin as the Z3, would be way more prone to cracking. While sapphire is much more scratch resistant it's also more brittle. Harder = more brittle. So what exactly is the point of this thread?
A bulky phone with a rugged design and built in bumper is stronger than a thin phone without all these rugged reinforcements? Who could have expected that? :cyclops:
Thanks, exactly what I just wanted to say. And the fact that the phone is so bulky is one reason they can use sapphire glass at all.
Apple invested hundreds of millions of dollars in sapphire, and still the iPhone 6 doesn't use it. Guess why.
http://time.com/3377972/why-apple-didnt-use-sapphire-iphone-screens/
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Thanks, exactly what I just wanted to say. And the fact that the phone is so bulky is one reason they can use sapphire glass at all.
Apple invested hundreds of millions of dollars in sapphire, and still the iPhone 6 doesn't use it. Guess why.
http://time.com/3377972/why-apple-didnt-use-sapphire-iphone-screens/
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Sorry to bring some rays of bright, ambitious, product design ideas to the forum!
The whole idea of my thread was to highlight the possibility of better glass for Sony. I for one am not so concerned about shock/impact resilence as I have never been so clumsy as to drop a phone. However to have a screen that remains scratch free for its intended life span? Well I would pay an extra $50 for that! Additionally like I said, if they redesigned the phone frame/bumper most of the shock due to a drop would not transmit to the screen.
In closing, it's hilarious how those of you who posted negative , inflammatory comments on the pointlessness of this thread.
It was obviously meaningful enough for you to waste your petty time, energy and minds on!
What a waste of internet space this thread is.
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When people think they're smarter than multi-billion dollar companies they either have a good reason or they didn't check the facts.
pipspeak said:
That's one chunky and ugly phone! But at least I'd trust the glass more than I do the Z3c's
Funny thing is, many people's iPhones, Xperias, Galaxies etc. end up looking just as chunky and ugly when wrapped with big ol' cases for protection :laugh:
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Ahh some refreshing, intelligent and insightful comments.
Thankyou for your time and thoughts ☺
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I actually get what you mean, and it would certainly be nice seeing something like that on a smartphone with 2 glass sides, but it would be really expensive. The off-contract price for Z3 Compact is already $500+, if both sides had a sapphire glass it would cost $700 or most likely more (especially since Sony does not produce their own sapphire glass). And the sapphire glass, while scratch-proof, can still break during certain impacts, as the video has shown. I'd rather see Sony use a better quality glass - not a sapphire but something which doesn't crack during normal usage, like some Z3C's currently do
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Ahh another bright light, who reads a post, understand it's intend purpose and respectfully identified both sides of their opinion.
Good day to you sir ☺
Any type of Sapphire screen would have made the Z3 thicker. Additionally it would have required a total redesign to compensate for the sapphire brittleness.
So again, what is your point? A mistery phone from Sony designed around a sapphire screen? Then this thread should go in the general Sony section.
OP's too butthurt to listen to actual arguments I'm afraid.
Useless thread is useless.
Thread closed.
Hi y'all.. Bought the lg g6 recently. So far loving it. I like how the phone is entirely scratch resistant however I just noticed that the material covering the flash is plastic. I saw a deep scratch and had no idea how it got there given that I've had the phone in a mil grade case ever since opening he package. I put my finger on the flash and the scratches got even worse. I'm considering returning the phone because of this, has anyone run into this??
Watch the video in youtube from jerryrigeverything to see from wich material is the flash supposed to be.
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Watch the video in youtube from jerryrigeverything to see from wich material is the flash supposed to be.
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I watched both of his G6 videos - unfortunately he never did a scratch test of the material covering the flash
Really??
Snowleopard86 said:
... I'm considering returning the phone because of this, has anyone run into this??
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Really?? You're going to return a phone because of the material that was used to cover the LED camera flash?? What impact is a scratch on the plastic of your LED flash going to have on your photos?
I'm pretty sure the majority of phones out now use plastic for the flash. If you're considering returning it because of that then you should just get an iPhone. The plastic will refract the light regardless of whether there's scratches or not.
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I'm pretty sure the majority of phones out now use plastic for the flash. If you're considering returning it because of that then you should just get an iPhone. The plastic will refract the light regardless of whether there's scratches or not.
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I have a Nexus 5X which is manufactured by LG - it seems to use a harder plastic because I don't see any scratches on the material covering the flash. I noticed the iPhone uses glass? for the flash? I might look into this
Confirmed. All phones use plastic on flash except for one, S8
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Confirmed. All phones use plastic on flash except for one, S8
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where did you get this data?
Google mainly and the channel i told you, in the test video for the s8 he says: " first time i ever see a glass on a flashlight", so i went straight to google and in fact its true.
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Google mainly and the channel i told you, in the test video for the s8 he says: " first time i ever see a glass on a flashlight", so i went straight to google and in fact its true.
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ok this might be a game changer for me then lol - I chose LG G6 over the S8 because the G6 has a flat screen (I hate the curved screens because of the lack of screen protectors) - however I can't stand that a premium phone like the G6 opted for plastic to cover the flash, unacceptable.
Is not only LG, every other brand is exactly the same. Mi wife has a HTC 10, and that part is indeed plastic.
If a I were you, I wouldn't worry and enjoy the phone, its amazing
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Is not only LG, every other brand is exactly the same. Mi wife has a HTC 10, and that part is indeed plastic.
If a I were you, I wouldn't worry and enjoy the phone, its amazing
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I already returned my G6 because of the plastic flash issue - I think it's a really cheap plastic because everytime I lightly brushed the flash with my finger there was a new scratch... pretty crazy
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I already returned my G6 because of the plastic flash issue - I think it's a really cheap plastic because everytime I lightly brushed the flash with my finger there was a new scratch... pretty crazy
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Did you check your new phone to make sure the mic and earpiece holes aren't gonna collect any dust? That right there is gonna KILL your smartphone experience. Also, don't forget to check the pressure sensitivity of the volume buttons.... can't have those taking too much or too little pressure to activate, right? And you're not thinking about getting the S8, are you?? My God, man, you DO know the volume control is just a single bar instead of two distinct buttons, right?? WHAT IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY PRESS UP WHEN YOU MEAN TO PRESS DOWN?!? THE HORROR!!!
Hahahaha funny!
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Did you check your new phone to make sure the mic and earpiece holes aren't gonna collect any dust? That right there is gonna KILL your smartphone experience. Also, don't forget to check the pressure sensitivity of the volume buttons.... can't have those taking too much or too little pressure to activate, right? And you're not thinking about getting the S8, are you?? My God, man, you DO know the volume control is just a single bar instead of two distinct buttons, right?? WHAT IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY PRESS UP WHEN YOU MEAN TO PRESS DOWN?!? THE HORROR!!!
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on a more serious note - A cnet review noted that the G6 got a "hairline fracture" on the front despite normal use... not sure why there are physical defects like this
Fair enough
Snowleopard86 said:
on a more serious note - A cnet review noted that the G6 got a "hairline fracture" on the front despite normal use... not sure why there are physical defects like this
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I will grant you that the phone probably picks up scratches easier than it should. I imagine LG was trying to save money by not going with Gorilla Glass 5 all the way around and sapphire crystal for the camera cover. But all these hardness ratings and scratch tests exist because ALL phones scratch and chip... some more than others. You're gonna have to pay however many thousands of dollars Apple was going to charge people for a sapphire crystal-encased phone before they scrapped that idea to get something that will really stand up to scratches and "hairline fractures."
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I will grant you that the phone probably picks up scratches easier than it should. I imagine LG was trying to save money by not going with Gorilla Glass 5 all the way around and sapphire crystal for the camera cover. But all these hardness ratings and scratch tests exist because ALL phones scratch and chip... some more than others. You're gonna have to pay however many thousands of dollars Apple was going to charge people for a sapphire crystal-encased phone before they scrapped that idea to get something that will really stand up to scratches and "hairline fractures."
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right, but a hairline fracture on the screen is absurd.. that will actually affect the viewing. My Nexus 5X is mostly plastic aside from the screen and for now I'm sticking with this phone..
What if the plastic breaks, does this affect water resistance? should I even worry about it?