Guys my previous phone was s3 mini which had cm 11 installed. It used 400mb of ram and nexus 4 with same ROM 900. Can you explain that :0
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If the system has more RAM will use more of it because it will make things faster.
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N4 uses on avg about 400mb
You have a lot of cached apps? Facebook alone can eat up to 100mb
And why do you even worry? N4 has 2gigs of RAM....
When you start out with around 1.8gb of RAM.
Have to deal with the fact that once you get below 500mb of free ram the device turns into a lag fest. Add in the 400mb or so that just running the system uses.
What's funny is the pr crap from Google. Oh we made kitkat to run on lower end devices. We used a crippled nexus 4 with 512 mb or ram. Well they failed. The OS still runs like a three legged dog when it's "low" on ram.
Interesting..
Any way to fix this?
I used greenify on s3 mini.
But I guess I won't be needing that since 2gb of RAM plus snapdragon s4 pro is just too high for phone to lag.
Nexus 4 is still high end phone, right?
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albundy2010 said:
When you start out with around 1.8gb of RAM.
Have to deal with the fact that once you get below 500mb of free ram the device turns into a lag fest. Add in the 400mb or so that just running the system uses.
What's funny is the pr crap from Google. Oh we made kitkat to run on lower end devices. We used a crippled nexus 4 with 512 mb or ram. Well they failed. The OS still runs like a three legged dog when it's "low" on ram.
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Isus <3 said:
Interesting..
Any way to fix this?
I used greenify on s3 mini.
But I guess I won't be needing that since 2gb of RAM plus snapdragon s4 pro is just too high for phone to lag.
Nexus 4 is still high end phone, right?
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Oh come on guys....it is 2GB of RAM and it is STOCK ANDROID! This is not Touchwiz for you to be scared of running out of memory.
I'm a power user and i have never had more than 1GB of RAM used..... just install greenify and enjoy life
Also, what lag? Only lag you will see is if you feck up your kernel settings, if you turn of 3 cores completely or underclock to 700mhz lol
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Oh come on guys....it is 2GB of RAM and it is STOCK ANDROID! This is not Touchwiz for you to be scared of running out of memory.
I'm a power user and i have never had more than 1GB of RAM used..... just install greenify and enjoy life
Also, what lag? Only lag you will see is if you feck up your kernel settings, if you turn of 3 cores completely or underclock to 700mhz lol
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I'm using CyanogenMod not stock and I don't mind about RAM but it's simply plain weird that s3 mini uses less RAM on same ROM and android version.
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Look
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What would you do with free RAM instead of using it to cache and run services and system processes? Free RAM is wasted RAM
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Idk man....could be your ROM, i'm on PA 4+....i had about 1gb used with note 2 TW........
Is Nexus 4 still considered as HIGH END device?
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I'm using CyanogenMod not stock and I don't mind about RAM but it's simply plain weird that s3 mini uses less RAM on same ROM and android version.
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Read here for more information on Linux system memory usage. It's a bit long, so make a coffee, read slowly and you'll understand why.
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Is Nexus 4 still considered as HIGH END device?
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Not really. Compared to this year's flagship devices, our nexus 4 cannot be considered as a high end device. Having said that, it still performs really well because of the stock android. Only drawbacks are its camera and battery though.
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Read here for more information on Linux system memory usage. It's a bit long, so make a coffee, read slowly and you'll understand why.
Not really. Compared to this year's flagship devices, our nexus 4 cannot be considered as a high end device. Having said that, it still performs really well because of the stock android. Only drawbacks are its camera and battery though.
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Okay thanks, btw whats that kernel you use? Is it better then CM stock kernel I get when i install it?
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Read here for more information on Linux system memory usage. It's a bit long, so make a coffee, read slowly and you'll understand why.
Not really. Compared to this year's flagship devices, our nexus 4 cannot be considered as a high end device. Having said that, it still performs really well because of the stock android. Only drawbacks are its camera and battery though.
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5 hours of SOT is good for a 2100mah battery....and regarding the phone status, it's still a High end device.
Just because it doesn't work at 2300mhz or that it doesn't have a 1080p display it doesn't mean it's not a high end device.
It performs as a high end device, which is what is important. What is the point of 2.3 Ghz when my N4 can run lag free underclocked at 1.1 Ghz?
It's all marketing
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Oh come on guys....it is 2GB of RAM and it is STOCK ANDROID! This is not Touchwiz for you to be scared of running out of memory.
I'm a power user and i have never had more than 1GB of RAM used..... just install greenify and enjoy life
Also, what lag? Only lag you will see is if you feck up your kernel settings, if you turn of 3 cores completely or underclock to 700mhz lol
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You won't run out of RAM because android went let it happen.
The system / apps uses more than 1gb all the time. There should not be a need for root and greenify etc
You can see lag everywhere. It's there no matter what the die hard android fans say. The launcher lags in the widget selection part. Google plus lags and so on
Its funny how people see what the want to see. Most of the same people are also the ones that move on to the nexus 5 and say wow this is fast, I though the 4 was fast etc. They then immediately see the difference. Something you never hear from anybody going from a iPhone 5 to 5s.
To other posters yes in theory free ram is wasted ram. But it's not wasted ram when you need to keep around 500mb free to keep your system running as it should.
Again. On ios you can run right to you run out of RAM and make the app crash. You won't notice it until happens. On Android... Oh crap. There goes the lag fast. Clear all greenify and so on. All while having more than 400mb of free available ram. Which is more than you would have on a system with only 512 mb.
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You won't run out of RAM because android went let it happen.
The system / apps uses more than 1gb all the time. There should not be a need for root and greenify etc
You can see lag everywhere. It's there no matter what the die hard android fans say. The launcher lags in the widget selection part. Google plus lags and so on
Its funny how people see what the want to see. Most of the same people are also the ones that move on to the nexus 5 and say wow this is fast, I though the 4 was fast etc. They then immediately see the difference. Something you never hear from anybody going from a iPhone 5 to 5s.
To other posters yes in theory free ram is wasted ram. But it's not wasted ram when you need to keep around 500mb free to keep your system running as it should.
Again. On ios you can run right to you run out of RAM and make the app crash. You won't notice it until happens. On Android... Oh crap. There goes the lag fast. Clear all greenify and so on. All while having more than 400mb of free available ram. Which is more than you would have on a system with only 512 mb.
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Lol what are you talking about
I have no lag....not in G+, nor in Widget drawer.
iOS and Bada OS are similar. Bada 2.0 on my old Wave 3 was iPhone fast, and it only had 512 megs of RAM.
iOSBada & Android work differently.... what i've noticed that these closed source sh1ts have runtime similar to ART, hence they open up apps fast (even the Wave with 1.4 ghz single core & 512mb ram)
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Okay thanks, btw whats that kernel you use? Is it better then CM stock kernel I get when i install it?
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Whether it's better or not, I don't know because I don't use CM. Either way, it is good imo. You can try but not all phones are made the same. So, if it is good on mine doesn't mean it's good on yours too. You just need to try it yourself.
Note: If you are using CM, use the CM version.
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5 hours of SOT is good for a 2100mah battery....and regarding the phone status, it's still a High end device.
Just because it doesn't work at 2300mhz or that it doesn't have a 1080p display it doesn't mean it's not a high end device.
It performs as a high end device, which is what is important. What is the point of 2.3 Ghz when my N4 can run lag free underclocked at 1.1 Ghz?
It's all marketing
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That is why my friend, read what I said carefully. I did say it performs really well despite not having all those specs you said. 5 hours? Yeah, on wifi I can get up to 7 hours but on 3g connection, not even close to that. Best I can get so far with 3g all the time is 3 hours. That's my opinion anyway, why should we settle on good when it can be great. I hope the next nexus (if google still make it) would have a bigger battery. That's all.
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Y does gingerbread hog so much ram at start up?? when i had any froyo rom... each time i booted my phone, i had about 112mb used on start up on any froyo rom.. now on any gingerbread rom, its 220mb and more on start up!! and i also notice the phone lag allot when ever used up ram reaches 280 mbs... and it never gets past taht point.... wich i dont know y because thats just a waist of ram...
unused ram is wasted ram
Froyo and Gingerbread for me is the same when it comes to free ram.
Yes..... but id like to have the option to keep that unused ram for my iser applications...
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Yes..... but id like to have the option to keep that unused ram for my iser applications...
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That really isn't how it works.
Bad.... bescause the os kills apps that id like to have to background....when it can use upto 330mb...but chooses to not go past 280 sadly..
For me it uses about 110 MB which is a lot less than the 280 MB that froyo roms would use. I'm on cm7.1
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For me it uses about 110 MB which is a lot less than the 280 MB that froyo roms would use. I'm on cm7.1
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I think you have it backwards. That's only how much you have left... I could be wrong though. I want to get my panties in a bunch over the principles of not having gingerbread. But to be totally honest after flashing so many roms and testing so many different kernel combos and so on, I don't see the real advantage of having my resources eaten up so that I have a "CRT" screen off animation. I am an adult that needs a functioning phone. I heard way back when that 2.3 is more optimized for gaming. I haven't noticed a difference. Flame away though ye Vibrant owners....
I'm looking at the running tabs of the manage apps section and I have 120 MB taken up with another 210 MB free. I'm running Skype, kaokaotalk, Google maps, beautiful Widgets and Google voice on top of the OS and just opening up the app manager takes up 18 mb itself. In total running apps take up around 60 mb. The rest are cached. I don't think the apps are taking much memory cause they're in standby mode though. Gingerbread has been like a night and day difference compared to froyo IMHO. Much better ram management and faster switching between apps and all out performance. Try cm7.1 I highly highly recommend it. I just started using it a week ago and I'm starting to think Im an idiot for not trying it before. Along with the GPS fix and glitch kernel its much better than bionic 1.3.1 which was what I was using before.
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I'm looking at the running tabs of the manage apps section and I have 120 MB taken up with another 210 MB free. I'm running Skype, kaokaotalk, Google maps, beautiful Widgets and Google voice on top of the OS and just opening up the app manager takes up 18 mb itself. In total running apps take up around 60 mb. The rest are cached. I don't think the apps are taking much memory cause they're in standby mode though. Gingerbread has been like a night and day difference compared to froyo IMHO. Much better ram management and faster switching between apps and all out performance. Try cm7.1 I highly highly recommend it. I just started using it a week ago and I'm starting to think Im an idiot for not trying it before. Along with the GPS fix and glitch kernel its much better than bionic 1.3.1 which was what I was using before.
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Cm7 lacks hardware acceleration wich means scrolling suvks on the web and no 720p fladh vid playback... wich is something i need.
You can just use opera web browser for smooth scrolling and amazing web browsing overall. I don't know about the lack of 720p playback will check on it though.
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Bad.... bescause the os kills apps that id like to have to background....when it can use upto 330mb...but chooses to not go past 280 sadly..
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You really have no idea how android software manages itself, do you? I'm pretty sure the software is smarter than you are at managing your apps.
Also, the more functions you add in software, the more space it takes up in both rom and ram.
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You really have no idea how android software manages itself, do you? I'm pretty sure the software is smarter than you are at managing your apps.
Also, the more functions you add in software, the more space it takes up in both rom and ram.
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He should probably install Android 1.1 if he wants to go back to managing his apps.
How is performance? People need to stop worrying about how RAM is being used unless they're OS engineers or at least know a bit about how memory management works. People did the same thing when Windows 7 was released because it appears to use more RAM, but overall performance with modern hardware and a good amount of RAM is much better than Win2000 and WinXP. Ideally the OS should use as much RAM as possible and swap things out when needed according to a memory management algorithm that maximizes performance, not free RAM.
Memory don't really matter unless u use browser alot an its annoying opening system panel an see 90 apps open >.<
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People... i dont like the management because.obviously my phone lags too much when i start browsing the internent and open multiple tabs!!! the phone bogs down complete when ot reaches 280 mb of memory use!!!
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People... i dont like the management because.obviously my phone lags too much when i start browsing the internent and open multiple tabs!!! the phone bogs down complete when ot reaches 280 mb of memory use!!!
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Clear your browser data.
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I have about 220 used out of 339mb honestly I have alot of apps running i do a good amount of web browsing and i have a live wallpaper going as well and i have yet to reach a point where there is not enough ram available ...This is my experience with most GB roms i have used..
I honestly think the biggest problem when it comes down to lag is people do not give enough time to run in the software.. Think about when you flash between different roms alot is changing, in some cases even the entire file system is converted. I use Simply Honey 4 now and the first day it had a little hang up here or there.. now 2 days later nothing lags not even the browser.. This was a similar experience when i tried out CM7 and Malice... Just my opinion..
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People... i dont like the management because.obviously my phone lags too much when i start browsing the internent and open multiple tabs!!! the phone bogs down complete when ot reaches 280 mb of memory use!!!
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You're assuming that it's lagging because it's not managing memory as well as it could be, but you're jumping to that conclusion. The processor, the IO with the browser cache, lots of Flash in pages, etc. can all cause browser lag. Try setting Plug-Ins to On Demand so that it doesn't run every Flash advertisement on every page. Flash really bogs down the CPU.
Ok I've had my phone for two days now and I have been checking the RAM usage on the phone. With 0 applications open my usage is between 1.12 and 1.25 GB out of 1.78GB total. When I have a few apps open it can easily go up to 1.55GB. Is this normal for the galaxy S4?
Heres my usage as of right now
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are you using a custom rom?
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Heres my usage as of right now
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Is this phone stock? I'm worried theres something wrong with my RAM.
I'm getting the same high memory usage on rooted/debloated stock. It doesn't seem to have an ill effect on the device. It still runs very smooth.
There can be two reasons
1. Memory Leak
2. Proper utilization of the free space in RAM
If the phone is running properly without any stability problems then, Memory Leak is hardly the reason.
This brings to the next reason. We have 2gig RAM in S4. If it had to use only 500 MB or so, then the rest of 1.5 gig wud be for nothing. One shud be happy that the free space is being used for some performance rather than staying useless.
Moreover Samsung clearly mentions that the even applications are not running they are loaded in RAM so that they can be opened quickly. So, I think we shud just trust Samsung or the developers on this.
And another thing, I dont think we shud be worrying about the RAM usage unless we have unstability problems. Let Android handle the RAM.
Chill n have fun with Samsung Galaxy S4...
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Is this phone stock? I'm worried theres something wrong with my RAM.
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Yep, stock rooted...actually running the developers base with faux kernel...so stock rooted, deodexed, zipaligned, with a custom kernel - not debloated in any way
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I need to relax
Yea the phone has been running fine for the most part. I noticed some frame choppiness in Temple Run 2 that never occurred on my Note2. but other than that its been fine. I guess I just need to chill. Thanks for your help guys.
This is Android, not Windows.
Free RAM doesn't buy you anything in Android. In fact you want Android to use memory.
Don't worry about how much RAM is being used, concentrate on how responsive your device is.
joeybear23 said:
This is Android, not Windows.
Free RAM doesn't buy you anything in Android. In fact you want Android to use memory.
Don't worry about how much RAM is being used, concentrate on how responsive your device is.
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This is very true.
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This is very true.
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Android is an entirely different beast than what most users are accustomed to...
Hi,
I recently moved from Note 2 to S4. With my Note 2, I was able to freeze apps with TB to a low 390-450mb used. I was curious why the S4 uses almost 1gb most of the time and I was only able to knock it down to 800mb used with freezing some apps identified on other threads.
Thanks!
I am also curious about this and I also switched from note 2 to s4 but im just going to guess because all the extra features it has and upgrades anf even if some arent in use they are probably on standby still taking up some ram, idk thats just what I think?
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taiwanese said:
Hi,
I recently moved from Note 2 to S4. With my Note 2, I was able to freeze apps with TB to a low 390-450mb used. I was curious why the S4 uses almost 1gb most of the time and I was only able to knock it down to 800mb used with freezing some apps identified on other threads.
Thanks!
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There are more sensors on the S4 and thus more services required to run. If you missed freezing them they will eat RAM, and if you freeze some you will threaten stability. If you aren't sold on the stock ROM then try something from ASOP. Or some of the fully debloated TW ROMs like GOLDENEYE.
Why do you want free RAM?
This is Android, not Windows.
You want Android to use RAM.
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Why do you want free RAM?
This is Android, not Windows.
You want Android to use RAM.
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Yep, with android "free ram is wasted ram"
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I see...
So high usage of RAM is good and won't slow down processors or heat up?
Thanks,
I don't know why you'd think it would heat up the processor, it won't.
While low ram isn't necessarily a bad thing with Android, linux based systems tend to use all the ram it can to speed things up,
With all of samsung's bloat it can slow things down if samsung bloat is taking up memory and you don't have enough for the active apps you actually using as the samsung bloat tends to stick around in ram even if your not using it.
Installing cleanrom (TW debloat) seems to have freed up some ram and things are running smoother than stock.
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I don't know why you'd think it would heat up the processor, it won't.
While low ram isn't necessarily a bad thing with Android, linux based systems tend to use all the ram it can to speed things up,
With all of samsung's bloat it can slow things down if samsung bloat is taking up memory and you don't have enough for the active apps you actually using as the samsung bloat tends to stick around in ram even if your not using it.
Installing cleanrom (TW debloat) seems to have freed up some ram and things are running smoother than stock.
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I see...I'm not an expert on it yet so I'm not too familiar with it.
Thanks for your help
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I see...
So high usage of RAM is good and won't slow down processors or heat up?
Thanks,
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RAM does not heat up like a processor does, it will warm up because it has an electric current going through it, but it will not heat up more based on utilization.
Thanks for the info. Ill just leave it alone
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The i9000 has just 389 mb ram available to users and hence often leads to lags and app closures in background, in addition to poor gaming performance(apps have to be closed by the game causing stutters and frame rate dops in the beginning of any game)
I was wondering if like ios it was possible for a rom dev to just allow core os apps in a rom and have psuedo-multitasking(freezing and unfreezing) like ios.The reason that iphone 4s, works so smooth and can play heavy games(like real racing 3) with 512 mb ram is because of their multi tasking technique.
At the moment,There is an option in developer options where you can limit background processes to none and purge activities as soon as you exit the activity.This is good for running games(as even the launcher and any other back ground app is closed as soon as u start the app allowing full ram for the current game).This is good for gamers but prevents any form of multi tasking between apps.
If this could be used in complement with freezing and unfreezing of background apps(like ios) then maybe this phone would not have any lag issues at all, even in future heavy os updates.
P.S : It's just an idea. I'm no dev but sure could use an opinion of one .
EDIT : A solution which works for me. Gamerzrom v4.0 has caching of apps pre-enabled. So no more apps killed in background due to lack of ram.
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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Buy an iPhone then. Got it?
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Too expensive xDD
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Try Greenify
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
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Agreed as task killers never worked for me, But to have actual freezing (of background apps only) there's greenify (available on market for free for root users only), and so i have enough ram(about 170-190 mb) to play heavy games without much lag.
But the issue here is to have proper multi-tasking without burdening the os. That is just like how greenify stores the state of the app in background and then completely freezes it, so it won't start again in background and yet open normally when needed(better than disabling the app/service) .If something like this could be extended to foreground apps.
If there's no solution possible, then just buy the cheaper version of iphone coming soon, if its expensive ryt now .
Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Still many people have sgs
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Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Well over 25 million sgs1 have been sold, and all of them don't have enough money to upgrade anytime soon.
Also the need of such high specs is because apps run in parallel in background.If such a project to develop psuedo-multi tasking is started and completed, then there won't be any need of upgrading ur phone at all(even other low ram phones will benefit from it). But such a project requires great deal of work with how the system works internally, it will require great devs (which we have ) so maybe something can happen :fingers-crossed:.
I know that our phones are strong enough to handle any app one at a time(i disabled all background services possible and set phone to purge any activity as soon as it exits and set background app limit to 0 , using 439mb ram option in devil kernel with sick sky launcher), so i had upto 230 mb ram free when i checked it in settings app(which uses 30 mb ram itself) . With such a setup and oc to 1.2 ghz, i have been able to play real racing 3 with medium graphics(modded)(played at level of graphics of iphone 4) on my phone with almost no lag.
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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Yes if you notice devs have left and those who stayed have many projects and so the development goes slow until it stopps :/
Many of us dont have the money to move to a new device so well just see whats going to happen fingeres crossed it all goes okay
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Im still on modified gingerbread. xD
Use greenify search for it in the play store
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Couldn't this easily be achieved with a swappiness tweak? Write any app that isn't in focus onto the swap partition so no background apps are in memory, would make the system **** tier slow though for anything but gaming.
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Delete bloatware,disable unnecessary services without disabling whole app with DisableServices app ( you can find it on google store,and it's free), install busybox pro and run RAM manager Pro, and last step would be to try installing soem custom Roms which probably could give better performance to you.
A good setup for gaming
For those people who want to obtain maximum performance from games, here are some tips which i have found over the 3 years i have had this phone:
1) The best kernel for gaming which i have used would be devil kernel (jb 4.2) , purely because of a 439 mb ram optionum amount of ram which can be found usable at the moment. This mode however disables the camera completely. Also it has options for overclocking.
I personally use the 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz clock speed for processor.
2) Try to use a debloated rom, and then try to use as less gapps as possible i.e. try to use the slim version of the gapps for the rom or install the gapps which u require manually. The gapps are not shown normally but under google services so u cant hibernate them with greenify. SO its better to not have unused gapps and features like face unlock ets.
3) Instead of using task managers, use greenify so that apps do not restart again. And try to hibernate all apps which u dont require. Apps like facebook, g+ and whatsapp are the biggest ram hoggers. Also beware of google maps cuz it does not hibernates(uses 30-40 mb ram)
4) Disable services like email exchange etc which are not used by you at all.
5)I have seen that restarting the phone helps get rid of some google core services, giving more free ram.
6) There is an option in developer settings at the bottom in apps section, set background app limit to none and also check the option "don't keep activities". Do this just before gaming and then undo them after ur done or else it will prevent any form of multi tasking.
7)Try to use light weight launchers, and no widgets(as these themselve are like an extra process which need to run in background). I am using sicksky launcher(uses just 18 mb). other options are zeam and lightning launcher.
NOTE : anyone using stock samsung rom (2.3.6), they should switch over to a custom rom, because samsung rom is completely not for gamers. most of the system processes are hard to kill , also total available ram is only (316-330) vs jb ( total ram usable is 390- 439). However if
u dont wanna change ur rom, greenify will still help, also disabling services.
Conclusion: I am using gamerzrom v4, with devil kernel using 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz oc.
I have had no lags in all temple runs (including oz), subway surfer and rr3 on medium graphics, nfs mw. normally using the above tips i have 180-210 + <ram used by settings app> ram free at any moment when i'm checking free ram in settings->apps->running (settings itself is a process and to see total free ram add the amount used by settings to free ram).
Also i have observed that the game devs(mainly gameloft and glu) have now begun to put our phone in low power gpu category(not totally incorrect for an unmodded sgs but not true if u have use the above tricks(especially oc and ram mod)).
so these games often can be modded for higher graphics (various mods on xda for games like nfs mw, rr3, asphalt 7, nova 3 etc) so they can be played with better graphics without lag. I have tried nfs mw mod, asphalt 7 mod, rr3 mod and they all work pretty good on medium(not available normally).
i would love it if more people share their tips on how they keep their phones going strong
Saw this Forum, Even tho im not a Samsung GS1 User, My Buddy has one and i recently gave him my ADJ Values that i use on my Xperia Play (same specs as ur device...) and he said he could do Gaming, Multitasking, and All sorts of more,
Here it is:
Code:
# Pro Gamer ADJ 1.3 By Pizza_Dox
ro.FOREGROUND_APP_ADJ=0
ro.VISIBLE_APP_ADJ=3
ro.PERCEPTIBLE_APP_ADJ=2
ro.HEAVY_WEIGHT_APP_ADJ=3
ro.SECONDARY_SERVER_ADJ=15
ro.BACKUP_APP_ADJ=7
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
ro.HIDDEN_APP_MIN_ADJ=3
ro.EMPTY_APP_ADJ=15
Also if u Wanna Keep the Home Launcher in Ram do this Instead of This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
Replace with This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
Oh and to apply them just copy to build.prop but make sure their arnt any other ADJ Values, then once done save and reboot!
Hope this helped,
Oh btw try VmLagTunner before Playing Games, Or install Permanently!
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darkknigh_t said:
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
Dandry said:
Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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I dont know about that im running gamerzrom 4.2 and its running great i think 4.2 can run fine just needs a little more work and time but yea will have to move on to a new phone :/
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What's the point of having 4GB of ram if the whole damn system takes about 3.5 gb living me with only 1.5gb useful. This is absurd! I will root and flash a custom rom just because of this. You know how SLOW our phones are running consuming more than half of ram??? Any way to fix this without root?
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nano303 said:
What's the point of having 4GB of ram if the whole damn system takes about 3.5 gb living me with only 1.5gb useful. This is absurd! I will root and flash a custom rom just because of this. You know how SLOW our phones are running consuming more than half of ram??? Any way to fix this without root?
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It's 3.5GB because the GPU needs 500MB allotted for itself.
What's the use of 4GBs of RAM if 1.5GB is not being used?
Android uses the RAM and kills things when it needs more. Idle RAM is useless RAM.
Plus 3.5 + 1.5 = 5.
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While this phone has a lot of ram and the management is much better compared to the s6 it's still not that great. The whole system does lag and feel bogged down. After clearing all the tasks it's smoother but apps will still close in memory and have to relaunch upon opening. I too am looking forward to rooting and custom Roms
_Dennis_ said:
What's the use of 4GBs of RAM if 1.5GB is not being used?
Android uses the RAM and kills things when it needs more. Idle RAM is useless RAM.
Plus 3.5 + 1.5 = 5.
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What he^ said.
There could be 6GB of RAM and the system is going to use it. That's what it's there for. Android is built to effectively manage what is using RAM to keep everything running smoothly.
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While I agree the RAM usage seems a bit high I haven't really seen any system slowdowns. I only clear out RAM these days out of habit rather than necessity and honestly I can't tell much of a difference in performance before and after cos it is a very fast phone.
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For everyone arguing with OP; The problem seems to be that there isn't enough ram, and the system keeps shutting things down instead of letting them run in the background. Either that, or the ram is being managed poorly, and apps are being closed instead of running in the background.
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For everyone arguing with OP; The problem seems to be that there isn't enough ram, and the system keeps shutting things down instead of letting them run in the background. Either that, or the ram is being managed poorly, and apps are being closed instead of running in the background.
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Phone don't slow down. I wish there was more ram but I would of liked if Samsung copied apple in which you can go back to the previous app 10+ apps ago and it's still exactly were you where, with less than 1gb of ram? I don't see why Samsung can't do this apple gots a slight edge in multi tasking. But we have multi window. There "multi window" sucks soooooo bad. Only like 5 apps support that feature lol
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