Today I brought N9005 and pre installed android version is 4.4.2
For N9005 with kitkat I am very very newbie. I would like to ask
some question as below.
1.Can I downgrade from kitkat to JB stock version without Knox trip.
2.My current basebandd 9s uena2 I have to root with kind of method
Cf root Or de la vega
Thank for all kind for answer my question.
Ps.Sorry for my bad English.
ricardoropez said:
Today I brought N9005 and pre installed android version is 4.4.2
For N9005 with kitkat I am very very newbie. I would like to ask
some question as below.
1.Can I downgrade from kitkat to JB stock version without Knox trip.
2.My current basebandd 9s uena2 I have to root with kind of method
Cf root Or de la vega
Thank for all kind for answer my question.
Ps.Sorry for my bad English.
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You can't downgrade
Cf root will trip Knox
Vega won't trip Knox
jaythenut said:
You can't downgrade
Cf root will trip Knox
Vega won't trip Knox
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Thanks for your answer. I will try to root with de la vega method.
As you told me I can not downgrade. In this case. If I flash with
custom rom JB version. What will going on.
ricardoropez said:
Thanks for your answer. I will try to root with de la vega method.
As you told me I can not downgrade. In this case. If I flash with
custom rom JB version. What will going on.
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Doesn't really matter if you flash from stock or custom
Rosli59564 said:
Doesn't really matter if you flash from stock or custom
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Baseband : N9005XXUENA2
Build number : KOT49H.N9005XXUENA6
This is my device detail. If I root with De la vega method and
using odin flash tool flash N9005XXUDMJ7 rom pack.
May it possible or not. I no need to use Kitkat because
my app and game not support Kitkat.
Thank you for answer.
ricardoropez said:
Baseband : N9005XXUENA2
Build number : KOT49H.N9005XXUENA6
This is my device detail. If I root with De la vega method and
using odin flash tool flash N9005XXUDMJ7 rom pack.
May it possible or not. I no need to use Kitkat because
my app and game not support Kitkat.
Thank you for answer.
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You're already on Kit Kat. Just root with cf auto root if you really need to use root. No knox friendly to root kit kat
ricardoropez said:
Baseband : N9005XXUENA2
Build number : KOT49H.N9005XXUENA6
This is my device detail. If I root with De la vega method and
using odin flash tool flash N9005XXUDMJ7 rom pack.
May it possible or not. I no need to use Kitkat because
my app and game not support Kitkat.
Thank you for answer.
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Dont do this.. itll brick your device until you flash a stock kitkat firmware onto it again.
MJ7 is a JB firmware.
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celderic said:
Dont do this.. itll brick your device until you flash a stock kitkat firmware onto it again.
MJ7 is a JB firmware.
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Thanks you.
You meant my device cannot flash to JB ?
No method can help me for change from
Kitkat to JB.
ricardoropez said:
Thanks you.
You meant my device cannot flash to JB ?
No method can help me for change from
Kitkat to JB.
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You can't go from Kitkat back to Jellybean.
Any thing you do to root it will trigger Knox.
ricardoropez said:
Thanks you.
You meant my device cannot flash to JB ?
No method can help me for change from
Kitkat to JB.
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as mentioned by ultramag69,
unfortunately the upgrade of the Android O/S since 4.3 and above is irreversible (one way ticket), due to sammy is keeping on developing its bootloader.
Not only saying 4.3 to 4.4. Even the same version of 4.3 got few bootloader patches, and the same 4.4 also have few bootloader patches. This bootloader things make the upgrade irreversible. Downgrading can cause you to bootloop (soft brick), & KNOX trip.
and there's no KNOX friendly root method for the newer bootloader 4.3 and above. If you need root, you will have to bear with the KNOX trip. If you want to keep the KNOX, don't root, and just use your device as per normal usage.
Cheers.
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Hello,
I want to root my device and I want to keep KNOX 0x0.
I know that there is Universal Root de la Vega v0.2 thread that will keep knox 0x0 , The problem is that i don't know which firmware to choose.
There is 3 diffrent country/carrier(Singapore (SingTel). Singapore (StarHub), Singapore), with the same AP/CSC/MODEM.
AP: N9005XXUDML2
CSC: N9005OLBDMK2
MODEM: N9005XXUDMJ7
How i can know which firmware to download and use it on Universal Root de la Vega v0.2?
whit3. said:
Hello,
I want to root my device and I want to keep KNOX 0x0.
I know that there is Universal Root de la Vega v0.2 thread that will keep knox 0x0 , The problem is that i don't know which firmware to choose.
There is 3 diffrent country/carrier(Singapore (SingTel). Singapore (StarHub), Singapore), with the same PDA/CSC/MODEM.
PDA: N9005XXUDML2
CSC: N9005OLBDMK2
MODEM: N9005XXUDMJ7
How i can know which firmware to download and use it on Universal Root de la Vega v0.2?
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You cannot root and keep knox 0x0 as your phone already have the updated bootloader.
antt00 said:
You cannot root and keep knox 0x0 as your phone already have the updated bootloader.
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having the same problem... desperately waiting for new URDLV version that can root new bootloader without tripping knox...
durhambaby said:
having the same problem... desperately waiting for new URDLV version that can root new bootloader without tripping knox...
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Designgear already said it's not possible to root new bootloader with urdlv. I don't think he is even working in it.
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antt00 said:
Designgear already said it's not possible to root new bootloader with urdlv. I don't think he is even working in it.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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So how did you flashed yours and keep the knox 0x0?
You have the same AP I have.
antt00 said:
Designgear already said it's not possible to root new bootloader with urdlv. I don't think he is even working in it.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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seriously? sad.. there will be somebody working on knox0x0 for new bootloader I hope..
used to have knox0x0 root on xMI3 until 1 day my hands were itchy & flashed the new MJ7 zzZZ...
whit3. said:
So how did you flashed yours and keep the knox 0x0?
You have the same AP I have.
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I started from MJ1 with the old bootloader. Rooted and just keep updating with URDLV of newer rom version while keeping the old bootloader.
antt00 said:
I started from MJ1 with the old bootloader. Rooted and just keep updating with URDLV of newer rom version while keeping the old bootloader.
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I have MJ1 rooted with the initial Vega method.
Could I use the new URDLV version 4 to get the latest version of the phones software and keep root?
Is it easy? Do I have to download a stock rom to modify?
Hi, I use note 3 n9005 with
Build Number: JSS15J N9005XXUB.M17
It's a Vodacom phone.
Pls help with rooting advice that won't trip knox
Thanx
vinokirk said:
I have MJ1 rooted with the initial Vega method.
Could I use the new URDLV version 4 to get the latest version of the phones software and keep root?
Is it easy? Do I have to download a stock rom to modify?
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Yes you can. 2 ways.
1) Download the whole rom and URDLV it and flash with odin
2) Download the whole rom and flash with mobile odin pro with everroot turned on.
Either way you need to download the full rom first.
What is the best way to root my note 3 sorry people I'm new to rooting
sammillerr said:
What is the best way to root my note 3 sorry people I'm new to rooting
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Do you know which firmware you have on your phone?
If it's 4.3 get it here, 4.4.2 here.
hey_joe said:
Do you know which firmware you have on your phone?
If it's 4.3 get it here, 4.4.2 here.
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I have 4.3 firmware
sammillerr said:
I have 4.3 firmware
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Download the cf-auto root from the link I provided, extract files to a directory of choice, run odin, click pda buuton on odin then select cf-auto root file you just extracted and odin will take care of the rest and your phone will reboot.
sammillerr said:
I have 4.3 firmware
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Which 4.3? (try *#1234# ) - if you have < MJ3 you can still root with Universal Root De La Vega without triggering knox flag and losing warranty (for now).
xclub_101 said:
Which 4.3? (try *#1234# ) - if you have < MJ3 you can still root with Universal Root De La Vega without triggering knox flag and losing warranty (for now).
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I got a n9005XXUBMI7 i will liked to use De La Vega with out triggering the knox
sammillerr said:
I got a n9005XXUBMI7 i will liked to use De La Vega with out triggering the knox
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If you are on MI7 then certainly go for Universal Root De La Vega (IMHO the safest is to first use for URDLV exactly the same version that you currently have) and then do a lot of reading around here on how you can upgrade with Mobile Odin Pro while keeping root and knox 0x0 :good:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
RaDi said:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
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Only one thing once knox is tripped there's know going back
ok
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Most important, turn re-activation lock OFF..
If it's on you will have problems....
RaDi said:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
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It would have been interesting to at least try some new test in the process - for instance I have seen some intriguing reports from N900W8 models where they have apparently installed some version of xnote (custom rom pre-rooted) without tripping knox presumably by somehow using stock Samsung kernel and stock Samsung recovery (I repeat, that was THEIR claim, not mine, but more research and testing on the subject would be nice).
I'm one of those people. I installed the Mexican update, then rooted using Cf autoroot, then installed CWM and flashed X-Note with Katturbine kernel and I'm still knox 0x0 :/
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I am also on MJ7, N900t and I had have two questions if possible.
1. Do you recommend me to upgrade to kitkat then to have custom rom or just to root my 4.3 then to have a custom rom?
DrawnToLife
2. Can you please explain what you did step by step instructions to what you did, and if possible providing a link to the Mexican rom you referred to and the same CWM you used.
Thanks
DrawnToLife said:
I'm one of those people. I installed the Mexican update, then rooted using Cf autoroot, then installed CWM and flashed X-Note with Katturbine kernel and I'm still knox 0x0 :/
Sent from my SM-N900W8 using xda app-developers app
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That sounds very different from what I was expecting, and so far based on that I would say that it mostly seems to be a result of the N900W8 bootloader system rather than something very special that needs to be done when flashing stuff
Question specific for N900W8 - is it possible to downgrade MJ4 -> MJ1 on that phone? (since that would confirm that the W8 bootloader is quite different).
xclub_101 said:
That sounds very different from what I was expecting, and so far based on that I would say that it mostly seems to be a result of the N900W8 bootloader system rather than something very special that needs to be done when flashing stuff
Question specific for N900W8 - is it possible to downgrade MJ4 -> MJ1 on that phone? (since that would confirm that the W8 bootloader is quite different).
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No, not possible to downgrade to MJ1 even when you came from MJ1 and upgraded to MJ4.
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anameeeen said:
I am also on MJ7, N900t and I had have two questions if possible.
1. Do you recommend me to upgrade to kitkat then to have custom rom or just to root my 4.3 then to have a custom rom?
DrawnToLife
2. Can you please explain what you did step by step instructions to what you did, and if possible providing a link to the Mexican rom you referred to and the same CWM you used.
Thanks
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I followed this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618633
Hello. I have searched but not found any clear answer. I wonder if I have version MJ7 under AP can i then flash a older rom without problems?
Is it only if having kitkat then I can't flash older rom? Or is it even when being on jelly bean?
I ask because I need to keep knox ok but I want root. So i thought I flash a older rom and root and keep knox ok?
You won't be able to flash anything below MJ7 if that's what you currently have. And with MJ7 there is no way to root without tripping KNOX either I'm afraid.
Ztrindberg said:
Hello. I have searched but not found any clear answer. I wonder if I have version MJ7 under AP can i then flash a older rom without problems?
Is it only if having kitkat then I can't flash older rom? Or is it even when being on jelly bean?
I ask because I need to keep knox ok but I want root. So i thought I flash a older rom and root and keep knox ok?
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In addition to what @radicalisto wrote earlier...
even you are in KK, you can't flash older ROM. And yes, any newer ROM which come with a new bootloader, once u flash it, most possibilities, you can't go back to earlier one.
so, if you are now on MJ7, and plan to have KK on it, I suggest you update first before you root your device.
radicalisto said:
You won't be able to flash anything below MJ7 if that's what you currently have. And with MJ7 there is no way to root without tripping KNOX either I'm afraid.
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Thank you. I thought it was possible when I am still on jelly bean. So I was wrong. Sad it's not possible to flash older.
On my Note 1 I could flash anything from jelly bean.
antique_sonic said:
In addition to what @radicalisto wrote earlier...
even you are in KK, you can't flash older ROM. And yes, any newer ROM which come with a new bootloader, once u flash it, most possibilities, you can't go back to earlier one.
so, if you are now on MJ7, and plan to have KK on it, I suggest you update first before you root your device.
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Ok thanks. I will not update to kitkat. Because I don't want to trip knox when rooting.
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Ztrindberg said:
Ok thanks. I will not update to kitkat. Because I don't want to trip knox when rooting.
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Hehehe.
U r on the dead end at the moment if u need to root safely, since u r on MJ7 alrd. U stay or u upgrade, if u want root result is the same.
Difference only on how many times u need to reroot.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.
Ztrindberg said:
Ok thanks. I will not update to kitkat. Because I don't want to trip knox when rooting.
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Have you tried kingo or Vroot?
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ddogishere said:
Have you tried kingo or Vroot?
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No i have not tried anything yet. Because I though I could flash older rom while I still was on jelly bean.
So sad this of Samsung. Really sad. Less freedom.
Hey guys,
I updated to the Official Lolipop which was released on Poland. Now I want to root this one without tripping knox.
Can someone Help me out ?
Thanks before
AP : N9005XXUGBOB6
CP : N9005XXUGBOA1
CSC : N9005XEOGBOA4
xda_Noob. said:
Hey guys,
I updated to the Official Lolipop which was released on Poland. Now I want to root this one without tripping knox.
Can someone Help me out ?
Thanks before
AP : N9005XXUGBOB6
CP : N9005XXUGBOA1
CSC : N9005XEOGBOA4
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Till now there is no such method to have root without tripping Knox in Lollipop,
You can update from kitkat to lollipop using Mobile ODIN and have root with Knox 0x0...
amk19 said:
Till now there is no such method to have root without tripping Knox in Lollipop,
You can update from kitkat to lollipop using Mobile ODIN and have root with Knox 0x0...
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I updated the bootloader. If I downgrade will it also work with the new bootloader ?
xda_Noob. said:
I updated the bootloader. If I downgrade will it also work with the new bootloader ?
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Oh, I updated my Note using MOP and still running Kitkat Bootloader.
and I guess, Once bootloader is updated to Lollipop, then downgrade to Kitkat isn't possible.
If you try to downgrade you may get stuck in bootloop or null IMEI.
amk19 said:
Oh, I updated my Note using MOP and still running Kitkat Bootloader.
and I guess, Once bootloader is updated to Lollipop, then downgrade to Kitkat isn't possible.
If you try to downgrade you may get stuck in bootloop or null IMEI.
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Well,
Apart from Bootloader, it is possible to downgrade from lollipop to kitkat without issues. (I can confirm because i have done this before).
My question was if I updated to lollipop and downgrade to kit kat again will the new bootloader trip knox to 0x1 when trying to root ?
amk19 said:
Oh, I updated my Note using MOP and still running Kitkat Bootloader.
and I guess, Once bootloader is updated to Lollipop, then downgrade to Kitkat isn't possible.
If you try to downgrade you may get stuck in bootloop or null IMEI.
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How to check my bootloader? I have updated to 5.0.
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xda_Noob. said:
Well,
Apart from Bootloader, it is possible to downgrade from lollipop to kitkat without issues. (I can confirm because i have done this before).
My question was if I updated to lollipop and downgrade to kit kat again will the new bootloader trip knox to 0x1 when trying to root ?
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No it won't trip Knox unless you flash something which is not officially signed from Samsung. Or unless you play with kernel and recovery.
@tahim. Download Samsung Phone Info app from playstore which shows all details of Note 3.
Thanks to @vndnguyen for this app.
Xda link here.
I don't mind trip my knox. So, can I use a chainfire file to root?
gilliardmelo said:
I don't mind trip my knox. So, can I use a chainfire file to root?
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Yeah. You can go ahead with that method is Knox trip doesn't matter for you.