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Question about backups on the Nexus 4

I currently have a T989, which has an internal SD. Does the Nexus 4 have this as well? What I'm getting at is basically if I do a full wipe on the Nexus 4 and want to use for example ROM Toolbox or Titanium Backup to restore SMS and system settings, do these apps have somewhere to store this that isn't touched by doing a full wipe?
Thanks in advance.

With a custom recovery when you a factory reset it won't wipe your internal SD. With stock recovery it will wipe everything
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spaceman860 said:
With a custom recovery when you a factory reset it won't wipe your internal SD. With stock recovery it will wipe everything
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Okay awesome. I use TWRP for everything.

Just do factory reset. TWRP warns you that doing a full wipe will remove everything. You can still recover from that, but it's a PITA.
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Casuals recovery

I rooted with casual and have the recovery installed. My question is I supposedly full wiped and flashed Goldeneye. My issue is it didnt full wipe because when I go into internal memory all the crap that should be gone, its folders are still there taking memory so I have to manually delete. Am I doing something wrong ?
When I had my htc a full wipe meant a full wipe Everything gone. Dont understand why its not happening on my s4.
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go into recovery and do a factory reset, it will clear it.
Thanks

That dont work all the folders are still there even though the apps are not installed.
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most recoverys are set up to format data without touching the internal storage. this is a feature, not a bug. if you want to wipe internal, go to format, then format internal. easy peasy

Reinaldo33897 said:
I rooted with casual and have the recovery installed. My question is I supposedly full wiped and flashed Goldeneye. My issue is it didnt full wipe because when I go into internal memory all the crap that should be gone, its folders are still there taking memory so I have to manually delete. Am I doing something wrong ?
When I had my htc a full wipe meant a full wipe Everything gone. Dont understand why its not happening on my s4.
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Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.

chocodough said:
Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.
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just make sure you don't have anything you care about, like Roms or nandroids, in /sdcard.
fwiw this isn't a CASUAL issue, its a TWRP issue.

Awesome was looking for the correct way to do a Total Full Wipe in recovery.
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chocodough said:
Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.
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It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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jd1639 said:
It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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Ya it might be a little bit overkill, but atleast this way you know everything is cleaned and wiped before you flash your ROM. I hate dirty flashing ROMS, so I prefer to be really thorough.

jd1639 said:
It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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It might be overkill but I like to make sure its a complete wipe even if I have to overkill it. Thanks all for the replies.
EDIT: DO NOT FORMAT INTERNAL if you have twrp the part where you have to type in yes. You will have serious issues and will end up ODIN back to stock to repair. If you format internal in twrp phone will not boot up. You can enter recover but if you power off phone will not boot up again.

[Q] Nexus 4: Encryption remained after factory wipe

My rooted Nexus 4 was wiped in recovery (TWRP). I then installed (again, using recovery) a new ROM, CM11 (M2 version).
I was surprised to find that my encrypted phone was still encrypted. The encryption works and CM11 was successfully installed.
Doesn't a factory wipe, wipe encryption?
CliffordS

28cliff said:
My rooted Nexus 4 was wiped in recovery (TWRP). I then installed (again, using recovery) a new ROM, CM11 (M2 version).
I was surprised to find that my encrypted phone was still encrypted. The encryption works and CM11 was successfully installed.
Doesn't a factory wipe, wipe encryption?
CliffordS
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What rom did you have before?
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Berrydroidcafe said:
What rom did you have before?
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Stock 4.4.2

28cliff said:
Stock 4.4.2
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The reason I asked is that doing a factory reset will not wipe the system partition, and it is possible that cm incorporated some of the stock rom stuff. That's the only thing I can think of, at least the only plausible one I can think of.
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-snip- sorry didnt see. no encryption is saved on the inital blocks of a partition, so even wiping it, it reamins.only formating the partition from fastboot would remove if im correct(or lgnpst or qpst)

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The reason I asked is that doing a factory reset will not wipe the system partition, and it is possible that cm incorporated some of the stock rom stuff. That's the only thing I can think of, at least the only plausible one I can think of.
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The wipe came first. If the wipe was successful, nothing should be left for the new ROM to use.

28cliff said:
The wipe came first. If the wipe was successful, nothing should be left for the new ROM to use.
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No, when you do a factory reset via the recovery, everything is wiped except the system partition. Doing a factory reset via settings will wipe everything. How did you do the factory reset?
Edit: the sdcard isn't wiped with a factory reset via recovery.
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Berrydroidcafe said:
No, when you do a factory reset via the recovery, everything is wiped except the system partition. Doing a factory reset via settings will wipe everything. How did you do the factory reset?
Edit: the sdcard isn't wiped with a factory reset via recovery.
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Recovery / Wipe / factory wipe
I doubt that the encryption program is on the sdcard.

28cliff said:
Recovery / Wipe / factory wipe
I doubt that the encryption program is on the sdcard.
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I wasn't saying it was on the sdcard, I was adding it because I failed to do so earlier in the reply.
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didnt understand. you wanna remove the encryption?

opssemnik said:
didnt understand. you wanna remove the encryption?
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Sometimes a thread takes off in a direction other than the original question.
"...The encryption works and CM11 was successfully installed.
Doesn't a factory wipe, wipe encryption?" is the question.
CliffordS

Wipe after 4.4 update?

Questions in the update. Is it recommended? I'm running stock 4.3 and and wondering if I should factory reset after updating to 4.4.2 It's a habit that I've picked up from custom roms on my S3 and am wondering if you should wipe on stock. Thanks
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You don't have a custom recovery on 4.2.2, only the stock recovery. If you do a wipe, factory reset, in the stock recovery it'll wipe your entire internal sdcard. So no, I would not do a wipe

Wipe phone? How do I do it without loosing root?

Hi there, my phone has been acting wonky the past week or so. I'd like to just factory reset (under settings or safestrap) not sure which one is better.
I am rooted running stock with some apps frozen.
What's the best way to reset without loosing root and safestrap?
Thanks!!
do I have to unfreeze everything first?
I tried searching (as I know search is my friend but I was getting contradictory information.
Thanks for your help!

You will not lose root from a factory data reset. All an FDR does is wipe caches, davlik, and system cache. It does not replace files or software, like it would if someone were to odin a firmware tar.

warpedmind0u812 said:
You will not lose root from a factory data reset. All an FDR does is wipe caches, davlik, and system cache. It does not replace files or software, like it would if someone were to odin a firmware tar.
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Thanks for getting back to me! So can I just reset? Or should unfreeze my apps first?
So it would just have the stock apps that come with the phone on it after a reset?
Thanks!
It's been so long since I've had to do this lol

warpedmind0u812 said:
You will not lose root from a factory data reset. All an FDR does is wipe caches, davlik, and system cache. It does not replace files or software, like it would if someone were to odin a firmware tar.
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you are totally wrong lol. a fdr does wipe the system so he would need to have a rom.zip stored on his internal storage/ext sdcard... if he uses SS to do a factory reset he will not boot until he flashes a rom.
now if he does an advanced wipe and selects only the caches thats a different story
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elliwigy said:
you are totally wrong lol. a fdr does wipe the system so he would need to have a rom.zip stored on his internal storage/ext sdcard... if he uses SS to do a factory reset he will not boot until he flashes a rom.
now if he does an advanced wipe and selects only the caches thats a different story
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yikes! So I won't use SS to wipe. If I just factory reset under settings....should I unfreeze all my apps first? When I boot up again the phone will have all the stock apps, and nothing more correct?
Thanks guys!

putney1477 said:
yikes! So I won't use SS to wipe. If I just factory reset under settings....should I unfreeze all my apps first? When I boot up again the phone will have all the stock apps, and nothing more correct?
Thanks guys!
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worst that will happen u will have to odin a stock tar and reroot.. i would back up all your pictures n everything onto a ext sdcard or pc.. essentially, a fdr from settings or the stock android recovery will make it like new again if you havent flashed a custom rom but i never use it.. i would always just odin a stock tar or use ss fdr and flash a stock rooted rom.zip through ss
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elliwigy said:
worst that will happen u will have to odin a stock tar and reroot.. i would back up all your pictures n everything onto a ext sdcard or pc.. essentially, a fdr from settings or the stock android recovery will make it like new again if you havent flashed a custom rom but i never use it.. i would always just odin a stock tar or use ss fdr and flash a stock rooted rom.zip through ss
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Oh boy lol....
Ok so if I odin back to nha, take Ota to ni2, odin stock ncg kernel, root with towelroot, odin stich ni2, reboot. I should be fresh out of the box right?
Then I can download ss and install.
Holy crap that's a lot of steps.
Thanks!
Heather

putney1477 said:
Oh boy lol....
Ok so if I odin back to nha, take Ota to ni2, odin stock ncg kernel, root with towelroot, odin stich ni2, reboot. I should be fresh out of the box right?
Then I can download ss and install.
Holy crap that's a lot of steps.
Thanks!
Heather
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yup.. if u have to.. like i said, if ur already rooted with ss installed you might as well wipe in ss and just flash a stock rooted ni2 rom
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putney1477 said:
yikes! So I won't use SS to wipe. If I just factory reset under settings....should I unfreeze all my apps first? When I boot up again the phone will have all the stock apps, and nothing more correct?
Thanks guys!
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elliwigy said:
you are totally wrong lol. a fdr does wipe the system so he would need to have a rom.zip stored on his internal storage/ext sdcard... if he uses SS to do a factory reset he will not boot until he flashes a rom.
now if he does an advanced wipe and selects only the caches thats a different story
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Just to clear this up a factory data reset from the settings menu and safestrap do the same thing. It resets the settings, removes any user installed apps as it wipes data folder where your user installed apps are stored. It will be the same ROM you flashed minus any user apps, root and safestrap will remain. If you enter safestrap and do a advanced wipe with system checked and try to boot without flashing a ROM you will have to Odin back to stock to boot back up because the system will be gone. Lastly if you enter the stock recovery and reset from there it will do the same thing as SS and the settings menu. The only way to return to stock is Odin. Hope this clears up any confusion.

Misterxtc said:
Just to clear this up a factory data reset from the settings menu and safestrap do the same thing. It resets the settings, removes any user installed apps and wipes data. It will be the same ROM you flashed minus any user apps, root and safestrap will remain. If you enter safestrap and do a advanced wipe with system checked and try to boot without flashing a ROM you will have to Odin back to stock to boot back up because the system will be gone. Lastly if you enter the stock recovery and reset from there it will do the same thing as SS and the settings menu. The only way to return to stock is Odin. Hope this clears up any confusion.
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what he said lol. i was just going off my past experience.. wiping via stock recovery caused me to have to odin back to stock.. it bootlooped and i didnt have ss recovery any longer.. ss default fdr has system wipe on as default so if you use tge default wipe you need to have another rom available to flash in ss or you will need to odin. Or of course do advanced wipe and unselect the wipe system portion.
theoretically, stock fdr should only wipe as misterxtc stated.. i suggest back up your stuff and try it and let us know how it goes lol
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elliwigy said:
what he said lol. i was just going off my past experience.. wiping via stock recovery caused me to have to odin back to stock.. it bootlooped and i didnt have ss recovery any longer.. ss default fdr has system wipe on as default so if you use tge default wipe you need to have another rom available to flash in ss or you will need to odin. Or of course do advanced wipe and unselect the wipe system portion.
theoretically, stock fdr should only wipe as misterxtc stated.. i suggest back up your stuff and try it and let us know how it goes lol
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Okay so I did exactly what you said. I wiped the phone from inside settings. When I booted it back up it was back to stock, because I'm not running a ROM. I did notice that when I signed into Google some of my apps started automatically redownloading. Actually almost all of them did. I am still rooted, & I do still have safestrap on my phone.
My question at this point is, I no longer have the safestrap app or the towel root app in my app drawer, but should I redownload them just so that they are in my app drawer? Will that affect the phone at all?
Thanks again

putney1477 said:
Okay so I did exactly what you said. I wiped the phone from inside settings. When I booted it back up it was back to stock, because I'm not running a ROM. I did notice that when I signed into Google some of my apps started automatically redownloading. Actually almost all of them did. I am still rooted, & I do still have safestrap on my phone.
My question at this point is, I no longer have the safestrap app or the towel root app in my app drawer, but should I redownload them just so that they are in my app drawer? Will that affect the phone at all?
Thanks again
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No you don't need them anymore. SS is where it needs to be regardless if it's in your app drawer or not. As long as you see it on boot up your good. Towelroot can be uninstalled after the root process is done, it's a one shot deal unless you Odin back to stock.

Misterxtc said:
No you don't need them anymore. SS is where it needs to be regardless if it's in your app drawer or not. As long as you see it on boot up your good. Towelroot can be uninstalled after the root process is done, it's a one shot deal unless you Odin back to stock.
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Awesome! Thanks again.
It's funny, I have been rooting and flashing roms for 5 years and I feel like I still have so much to learn.

putney1477 said:
Awesome! Thanks again.
It's funny, I have been rooting and flashing roms for 5 years and I feel like I still have so much to learn.
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No problem, I started about one year ago. I learned very early that a good backup and Odin are your best friends. lol It's pretty hard to mess up the phone beyond Odin or a backup, I've done some pretty risky things.

putney1477 said:
Awesome! Thanks again.
It's funny, I have been rooting and flashing roms for 5 years and I feel like I still have so much to learn.
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ive been on xda since the first galaxy phone made.
i also work for a cellular company..
i have never done a factory reset on my phone (obviously haha) i always use backups or just fresh installs
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