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Miracast on the Nexus 7?

In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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AraDreamer said:
In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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I'm very curious about this too.

I've looked into this briefly and from what I gather, any device that supports WIFI direct should be able to do this. I think I read somewhere that the N7 has wifi direct. Miracast is only a standard. There are other non-standard devices out there that can also do the same thing, but requires changes to the core android files.
Search for xbounds on youtube and the internet. You will see some demos of it. it requires an hdmi dongle that has wifi on it that communicates with your device.
In any event, if the N7 doesn't support miracast, it will support xbounds via a custom ROM (if and when somebody decides to build a custom ROM with xbounds integrated). Then all that is required is the xbounds dongle. Unfortunately, there is not much information on xbounds and when it will be released.

What would I need to purchase to get this working?

Hopefully, we don't need to buy stuff, we just need to update our devices when miracast comes down. There's a list of compatible devices on the Wi-Fi Alliance website. -Ara
EDIT: here's a link to the tegra explanation of miracast, taken from an article on the issue. Yeah, a dangle may be involved depending on the setup. http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-miracast-whitepaper-final.pdf
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I've not found any hardware that you could plug into say an HTML Monitor that will work with this yet. I do think it will be coming available soon though.

hope so
I reckon it will work with a Nexus 7. Hopefully the dongle isn't too expensive and my Nexus 7 will be my new PSone.

Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Nexus Q might get Miracast support
Nexus 7 and most Tegra 3 (also Galaxy S3) phones/tablets can get a fw upgrade to enable miracast (most that support WIFI Direct probably can have Miracast enabled).
Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
Personaly I think Miracast will be added out of the box and maybee even Google TV.
I only hope that it won't be possible to disable mirroring from inside an app using the API, if so I'm sure some streaming services will disable mirroring of the screen while using there apps lika HBO Go have done to Airplay

mfucci said:
Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
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Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
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Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.

widi and Miracast adapters
I am thinking that these will do what we need on the display side. Now to enable it on the Nexus 7.
Netgear announces Push2TV WiDi adapter and three new NeoTV units
engadget. com/2012/09/20/netgear-push2tv-neotv/#continued
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.
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Has anyone heard any updated news on miracast? I tried Google but all I found was old news. I'm really tired of waiting.

[Q] Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy

Other flagships have hardware that support this - does the Nexus and is Android 4.2 likely to support it? (4.1 does not).
Why is it useful? Well if you use a heart rate monitor for sports, it will last longer. It can also be used to connect devices.
It's a huge feature for me as a runner. Currently I use a Garmin 305 which is an awesome, if ugly, product. With apps like strava / endomondo and more, it would be nice to have all this, with GPS and music on one device

I believe Bluetooth 4.0 is present on this device. Check the spec sheet on Google Play, but I'm 99.99% sure.

The hardware is present for Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) but as yet, no version of Android supports it.
There is an issue thread on google regarding this - if people star it google might treat the issue as a priority.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
I think google is looking to NFC for nearfield communication forgetting some of the cool uses bluetooth can be put to.

kieren2 said:
The hardware is present for Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) but as yet, no version of Android supports it.
There is an issue thread on google regarding this - if people star it google might treat the issue as a priority.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
I think google is looking to NFC for nearfield communication forgetting some of the cool uses bluetooth can be put to.
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The Broadcom BCM4330 supports BTLE (http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s549642), and according to this website: http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/repo...market-reports/Report-Profile/?ReportKey=8713
The LG Optimus G uses that Broadcom chip, so it's possible that the Nexus 4 also uses it?
According to the newly updated Android 4.2 changelog: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html
Android 4.2 introduces a new Bluetooth stack optimized for use with Android devices. The new Bluetooth stack developed in collaboration between Google and Broadcom replaces the stack based on BlueZ and provides improved compatibility and reliability.
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I sure hope that we will have BTLE support with the Nexus 4. I really want to buy a Polar H7 HRM!

I'm glad someone else is concerned
It doesn't look too good. Although they have rewritten the stack, there is no mention of Bluetooth Low Energy or Bluetooth Smart.
Apart from the issue raised with google in my first post, I have no idea how to reach out to them regarding this. Does anyone know? This is Android general rather than device specific. Pretty much all the new handsets have hardware that support BLE but there is no OS support in Android

At last - some hope. Although there is no ETA, looks like we can hope for BLE support in Android 4.3
"BLE will be the next major feature we are going to add."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-platform/CYtxCmtZ-WI/aIzBq7KbKVUJ

Any updates on the BLE support? I am working on a BLE breakout board and would like to get it working with the Nexus 4 rather than just the computer via a dongle. From what I've found online there is a BLE stack in 4.2, yet for some reason I can't find it or get anything to work.

What exactly would this do? I understand the low energy stuff, but I don't see what else it has, and whether we have to enable it first, or something.

yahoowizard said:
What exactly would this do? I understand the low energy stuff, but I don't see what else it has, and whether we have to enable it first, or something.
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BLE is a wireless protocol that peripheral devices can use to interface with your phone. Somewhat similar to regular bluetooth (and other proprietary wireless links), it can allow a sensor to wirelessly stream data or allow a phone to control a robot or any other device with BLE. I'm not sure if that answers your question. The real benefit is that BLE uses significantly less power (upon other things) and thus can enable a new set of devices. For example, part of my dissertation is a cardiac monitoring system which I would like to connect to my Nexus 4.

Any news?
Hi guys,
Are there any news on Bluetooth 4.0 / smart ready on the Nexus 4 and maybe 4.2.2 yet?
Was someone already able to pair the Nexus 4 with the Polar H7?
Maybe I'll order one and try if it works by now.
Thanks for your answers anyway. :good:

I have the same question about BLE.
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kieren2 said:
Other flagships have hardware that support this - does the Nexus and is Android 4.2 likely to support it? (4.1 does not).
Why is it useful? Well if you use a heart rate monitor for sports, it will last longer. It can also be used to connect devices.
It's a huge feature for me as a runner. Currently I use a Garmin 305 which is an awesome, if ugly, product. With apps like strava / endomondo and more, it would be nice to have all this, with GPS and music on one device
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+1
Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.

id628 said:
+1
Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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Arrrghg - your post is what I found when searching for Fitbit, which I just bought. Very frustrating our N4's can't support the BT connection yet. I also hate that stupid dongle!

The new Fitbits use BLE too? Wow, Google need to get Android caught up, really never expect them to be behind with technologies.
So, should I send my H7 back, or wait???

Google finally started looking into BLE two days ago. See the bottom of this page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371

oren_b said:
Google finally started looking into BLE two days ago. See the bottom of this page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
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Added my vote to get them to acknowledge this. Amazing that nothing has been done yet.

id628 said:
+1
Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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kalipedia said:
Arrrghg - your post is what I found when searching for Fitbit, which I just bought. Very frustrating our N4's can't support the BT connection yet. I also hate that stupid dongle!
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AndyCr15 said:
The new Fitbits use BLE too? Wow, Google need to get Android caught up, really never expect them to be behind with technologies.
So, should I send my H7 back, or wait???
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I just bought a Fitbit One which uses BLE. I'm with you guys in hoping Google gets this feature added and supported very soon. It would be really nice!

This will be addressed with K release.
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I wonder which one will come out first. The Fitbit Flex or a Nexus 4 update with BLE.

I'm hoping it's coming soon, I just ordered a bunch of Motes to instrument my house...
http://igg.me/at/motes/x/1655370
danny.ffm said:
Hi guys,
Are there any news on Bluetooth 4.0 / smart ready on the Nexus 4 and maybe 4.2.2 yet?
Was someone already able to pair the Nexus 4 with the Polar H7?
Maybe I'll order one and try if it works by now.
Thanks for your answers anyway. :good:
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Fronjector

Has anyone treid fronjector as a tv out solution for the play?
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Interesting that... after a google type on "fronjector" I found... not a single piece of info as to what in god's name this is aside the fact that it has something to do with TV output, according to what the OP wrote.
Care to elaborate please? Some link for said "fronjector" would be nice. Thank you!

Lol why would u search the market first? ill post a link
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IoQ7LdNRoI&feature=youtube_gdata_player and sorry its fonjector thats a youtube vid and if u search google u can find it
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xD Actually I googled it on the web not the store
Thanks for the correction!
Seems an interesting concept!

psxpetey said:
Has anyone treid fronjector as a tv out solution for the play?
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Hadn't heard of this one - it does mention "Sony Ericsson R800a", so that's certainly very promising.
I was actually considering trying to contact the developers of Android Transporter to see if they would consider implementing their solution on the Xperia Play:
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLEeZ9zU7yI (phone to phone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyoZoNA8U24 (phone to raspberry pi)
I really like the Android Transporter approach because they use hardware acceleration to encode the video before it is transmitted (just as your phone uses hardware acceleration to encode video for the camera, it instead encodes the screen output and transmits it). And it is very standards-compliant and they released an open-source receiver for Raspberry Pi. But I think so far they've only targeted certain devices, for which they've released a custom rom for with their stuff baked in, so we would need them to develop a ROM for us.
~Troop

Trooper_Max said:
Hadn't heard of this one - it does mention "Sony Ericsson R800a", so that's certainly very promising.
I was actually considering trying to contact the developers of Android Transporter to see if they would consider implementing their solution on the Xperia Play:
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLEeZ9zU7yI (phone to phone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyoZoNA8U24 (phone to raspberry pi)
I really like the Android Transporter approach because they use hardware acceleration to encode the video before it is transmitted (just as your phone uses hardware acceleration to encode video for the camera, it instead encodes the screen output and transmits it). And it is very standards-compliant and they released an open-source receiver for Raspberry Pi. But I think so far they've only targeted certain devices, for which they've released a custom rom for with their stuff baked in, so we would need them to develop a ROM for us.
~Troop
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Nooootttt tooooo shabby at all!!
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Any Wear watch with a speaker that can be used for calls?

I want to switch badly from my Samsung Gear 2, but I can't give up the speakerphone. It's the best feature I use. Any Android Wear options?
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No, at least not yet. For some reason Google doesn't want speakers in their Android Wear watches.

After a year, they're still hanging on to that policy? Ugh. There was Talk back in May that Android M was going to integrate support for Wear Speakers. We'll see.
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There's an android wear port for the Gear2, it's missing a kernel module though to add the bluetooth audio headset profile and enable using it as handsfree ( question many times answered on the dev and qa thread ). Maybe someone with the necessary time will figure this out ? Just subscribe on the qa thread and you'll see...

No bluetooth 5 until Android O

It seems we won't have bluetooth 5 until Android O update androidcentral.com\bluetooth-5 (sorry, cannot share links yet)

Next update will include Bluetooth 5.0 Activation. As far as Android O, only saw one article stating that about Bluetooth 5.0 and O. LlabTooFer tweeted all the features of the next update and no mention of Android O. Also the latest base on Viper and Leedroid already have 5.0 Bluetooth support and are still Nougat. Don't know how well it works though not using those ROMS.

The original article I found was on htc blog (first link if you google "htc u11 bluetooth 5.0 htc blog"). There is an explanation why only Android O has this feature. Who to believe after all?

Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.

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The original article I found was on htc blog (first link if you google "htc u11 bluetooth 5.0 htc blog"). There is an explanation why only Android O has this feature. Who to believe after all?
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Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.
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good info, looks like we'll be waiting longer
https://www.androidcentral.com/bluetooth-5

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Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.
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So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.

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So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.
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Read the article I posted, bt 5 doesn't work on any device running Nougat even Samsung, O will support it.
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tkoreaper said:
So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.
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It's even mentioned in their article
When Android O, the next version of the Android OS becomes available, HTC U11 owners all over the world will be able to enjoy the benefits of Bluetooth 5.0.
We’re excited to be able to bring this announcement to HTC U11 customers around the world as we strive to continuously improve our customers’ mobile experience—we believe Bluetooth 5.0 compatibility helps do that.
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http://blog.htc.com/2017/08/htc-u11-ready-next-generation-connected-devices-bluetooth-5-0-support/

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It's even mentioned in their article
http://blog.htc.com/2017/08/htc-u11-ready-next-generation-connected-devices-bluetooth-5-0-support/
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My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.

Also sony contributed it's LDAC codec to Android O, so we could enjoy high quality bluetooth headsets

tkoreaper said:
My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.
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I think that it might be two BT chips, unless someone knows otherwise

tkoreaper said:
My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.
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How? I'd do it right now. We have this ability on our U11 already? I want.
Are you thinkin what Im thinkin? Wireless dolby surround with easy routing. Ornon dolby...simple 5.1. Why give dolby your endorsement. I been producing in 5.1 since my album mastered in Adobe Audition hit in late 2015. And Dolby got nothing to do with that effort.

kruc Ire said:
How? I'd do it right now. We have this ability on our U11 already? I want.
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That would be something that HTC would have to implement into the software.

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That would be something that HTC would have to implement into the software.
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I should be working on that. If the bt can send two channels of music it can be separated. And if 2 why not n channels. And why not choose. The stereo music has two channels. The 5.1 has 6 channels. So the size of a (wav) songfile is triple. My 26 song triple album was over 8 GB in size :good:
I am currently having two bluetooth lightbulbs. I see no reason not to get 4 more if bluetooth surround became available