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Voice Command Over Bluetooth

Voice Command 1.6 seems to be a bit of a nightmare and i have given up on my hermes for now.
My trinity though is almost ok, the only thing that doesnt work is when i push the voice button on the headset the sound comes out the phone speaker.
If i use the button on the phone though the sound comes out the headset.
How can i change the action of the button on the bluetooth headset to do what the button on the device is doing.
Thanks all.
Rob.

rjefferis said:
If i use the button on the phone though the sound comes out the headset.
How can i change the action of the button on the bluetooth headset to do what the button on the device is doing.
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FYI I use a SonyEricsson stereo BT headset and I don't experience this problem.

Rjefferis, I experience the same problem as you.
I have a Jabra JX10 headset.
Confirmation voice always comes out of phone speaker, not headphone... and irritatingly, it takes microphone readings from the phone body too. Kind of defeating the idea of hands free voice dialling.

FuzzMunky said:
Rjefferis, I experience the same problem as you.
I have a Jabra JX10 headset.
Confirmation voice always comes out of phone speaker, not headphone... and irritatingly, it takes microphone readings from the phone body too. Kind of defeating the idea of hands free voice dialling.
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Yeah this seems to be the problem on the hermes too. On mine it works correctly if i use the voice dial button on the phone. So the button on the headset and the button on the phone must be calling slightly different functions. All i need to know is what reg key i have to edit to make the headset button do the same as the phone one.
Try yours to see whether it works using the phone button. I think maybe my a2dp is getting involved somewhere as well.

There is an option about Notifications and Bluetooth devices in the Voice command settings... does this solve you problem?

Not for me.
It is set to read only through handsfree. I havent got my headset here, so I will see what happens if I switch it to the opposite like rjefferis implied.

yeah i doesnt make a difference using the options in voice command.
I think maybe when i push the button on the phone it works through the a2dp to the headset which obviously it shouldnt be.
When i use a non stereo headset then i think it always comes out the phone no matter what.

There are a number of threads regarding this issue and some semi-working fixes to get initiating a voice call through a mono bluetooth headset.
The problem seems to be a difference in the trinity passing audio through the audio gateway using a mono bluetooth headset. Not sure if this is a problem with the implentation of Microsoft's bluetooth stack on the TyTn/Trinity but I'm assuming that's the case.
According to Microsoft's Voice Command site, they indicate that the TyTn (put the Trinity in the same situation) passes audio through the device speaker. They also make note that devices running Windows Mobile build prior to 15097.3.0.0 will pass announcements through the device speaker. This leads me to believe that Microsoft fixed audio to a mono bluetooth headset but I've seen lot's of messages from people running roms higher than this version who still have the problem so sounds like HTC hasn't implemented it.
I've sent emails to HTC who indicate that it's a 3rd party program and there is no guarentee they will fix it as it's a Microsoft problem. I haven't been able to get word from Microsoft if it is being fixed but from their website, seems both parties are passing the buck on this one.
Considering HTC's lack of commitment in releasing updates for their branded products and the delay, we probably won't see another rom after their first release for a while if any since they seem more committed to releasing new products increase their bottom line without keeping their current customers happy. So if it's not in their upcoming rom update and Microsoft isn't releasing a fix, we could be waiting a while. I'd recommend anyone who cares about this issue to send an email to HTC Support. You'll get the generic response but hopefully if enough people complain about it, a fix might fall into their update

Bluetooth Handsfree problem: answering from the handset

HI all,
I got a t-mobile Vario II and have a plantronics 655 handsfree. I have searched the forum but found nothing that answers my problem.
I want to be able to answer a call from the phone and when the handsfree is paired the sound to come through the handsfree. I have tried a few handsfree kits but none seem to work and all the calls come through the phone until i pull the handsfree out of my ear hit answer n put it back in. Am i missing something? I want to be able to answer a call from the phone and talk through my handsfree. When i make a phone call however from the phone it works fine and the sound comes through the handsfree like it should.
I read something about a handsfree profile...where is that? i don't have a handsfree profile option on my phone. Is it an add-on. I tried the handsfree with my ericsson phone and when u answer from the phone it asks if i want the audio through the handset or the handsfree..
hellpppppp...its driving me madd lol

I Take it no one knows the answer to this or has created a patch? Does everyone answer there phone from the answer button on the bluetooth handsfree then? ??

What you are trying to do, is contrary to the feature designed into your dialer. When you answer the phone call from the phone instead of the connected headset, you obviously wanted to talk via the phone not the headset so that is where it routes the call. You can get it back to the headset after you answered on your phone by selecting the menu option and selecting "Turn Handsfree On".

similar issue
I have an ATT branded 8525, and a Motorola H550.
I'm using the built in voice dialer, as I really don't feel like shelling out any more money for voice commander, when I'm paying for the spb products I have (pocketplus, mobile shell, and phone suite).
With other phones, I could use the phone (by hand) to dial a number, while wearing the BT headset, and it would automatically put the conversation on the phone.
This doesn't.
Also, when I receive a call, I don't get the ringtones I have selected for specific callers, just a generic beep.
Morgan

That issue is actually unrelated. The issue that arnie_ahu has is trying to do something differently than the phone design. However, your issue is a real issue. Dialing on the phone and pressing call should send the call to the headset if it is connected properly. The ony conclusion I can think of is that it is not connected properly as a headset.

In my experience, this is Bluetooth device specific. When I use my Jawbone, I can answer on the phone and the conversation will be on the Jawbone. However, if I use a Plantronics 320 and answer on the phone, the conversation will be on the phone.
The reason why I answer using the phone instead of using the Bluetooth headset is out of courtesy to the caller. For some reason, when I answer with a Bluetooth device, the caller hears a very loud sound that is reminiscent of a fog horn. I have experienced this with multiple phones and headsets. I am guessing this is related to the Bluetooth handshake.
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It may be (for me) because I am using mp3 ringtones on a mono earpiece.
From what I have found on line, that won't work with WM5, which sucks, because it worked on my old piece of crap nokia 6230.
Why oh why must this be so hard?
Now I have to try and convert the mp3 ringtones I made from full songs to something the phone will use.

Answer without using bluetooth device

If I have a bluetooth device connected to my XV-6800, is there a setting or something I can do that will allow me to answer the phone with the call button on the phone, but have it connect to the bluetooth device? Right now if I hit the call button, it only goes through the phones speaker as if the bluetooth device was not connected. For me to answer a call using the bluetooth device, I have to hit the button on the bluetooth device.
Thanks,
Jeff

That's really strange. I know that I don't have the same phone as you (I have touch Elf). I have noticed this. When I have my device connected to bluetooth headset or my handsfree car kit, I can still hit the green call button to anser the phone when I get a call and the call is still transmitted to my bluetooth. I can even still make a call by hitting the green call button, dialing the number and still all through bluetooth.
It sounds like your device is not associating properly with the bluetooth device. Go into your bluetooth settings and check to make sure that you are connected properly for hands free - Go to settings - bluetooth and click on your device to make sure that hands free is checked.
I have also noticed that on a rare occasion, my bluetooth does not connect properly and although paired, does not transmit and sound did come through phone when it shouldn't have. To fix this, I did a soft reset and all was good. It happened to me about three times since I bought the phone in Dec 2007.

hotrod101 said:
That's really strange. I know that I don't have the same phone as you (I have touch Elf). I have noticed this. When I have my device connected to bluetooth headset or my handsfree car kit, I can still hit the green call button to anser the phone when I get a call and the call is still transmitted to my bluetooth. I can even still make a call by hitting the green call button, dialing the number and still all through bluetooth.
It sounds like your device is not associating properly with the bluetooth device. Go into your bluetooth settings and check to make sure that you are connected properly for hands free - Go to settings - bluetooth and click on your device to make sure that hands free is checked.
I have also noticed that on a rare occasion, my bluetooth does not connect properly and although paired, does not transmit and sound did come through phone when it shouldn't have. To fix this, I did a soft reset and all was good. It happened to me about three times since I bought the phone in Dec 2007.
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The bluetooth is properly connected. When I make a call and hit the green call button, it does go through the bluetooth device. It is only when answering a call it does not go through the bluetooth device when I hit the green call button. Yes, very strange. Oh well, I was hoping somebody might have some insight.
Jeff

jeffgman said:
The bluetooth is properly connected. When I make a call and hit the green call button, it does go through the bluetooth device. It is only when answering a call it does not go through the bluetooth device when I hit the green call button. Yes, very strange. Oh well, I was hoping somebody might have some insight.
Jeff
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What radio and Windows ROM are you using? I know that some of the different ones fixed some BT issues. When my headset is connected it always goes to my headset no matter what I push. Sometimes I have it in my pocket and forget and then can't hear anything on the phone. I believe you can force it to go to your headset after answering the call though.

jambrose said:
What radio and Windows ROM are you using? I know that some of the different ones fixed some BT issues. When my headset is connected it always goes to my headset no matter what I push. Sometimes I have it in my pocket and forget and then can't hear anything on the phone. I believe you can force it to go to your headset after answering the call though.
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I am currently using DCD 3.2.6 with radio 3.37.75. To be honest I am not sure I have tried it with this combination. But, I have had the problem with a DCD rom, I just don't remember which radio.

My phone has always bypassed the bluetooth earpiece if I press the answer button on the phone and not the button on the earpiece. It did it from day one with the stock verizon rom and it still does it with my custom dcd rom.
I like the option of bypassing the earpiece to answer a call, especially in a crowd. Also I have the incoming calls announced thru the earpiece. This allows me to know who is calling without even looking at the phone or touching it to answer it thru the earpiece.
This is my insight on this. I hope this helps.

Are you using Voice Command? Is the sound very low?
tommvee said:
My phone has always bypassed the bluetooth earpiece if I press the answer button on the phone and not the button on the earpiece. It did it from day one with the stock verizon rom and it still does it with my custom dcd rom.
I like the option of bypassing the earpiece to answer a call, especially in a crowd. Also I have the incoming calls announced thru the earpiece. This allows me to know who is calling without even looking at the phone or touching it to answer it thru the earpiece.
This is my insight on this. I hope this helps.
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jeffgman said:
If I have a bluetooth device connected to my XV-6800, is there a setting or something I can do that will allow me to answer the phone with the call button on the phone, but have it connect to the bluetooth device? Right now if I hit the call button, it only goes through the phones speaker as if the bluetooth device was not connected. For me to answer a call using the bluetooth device, I have to hit the button on the bluetooth device.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Mine operates the same way. I don't beleive this is a "flaw", and may vary by type of bluetooth device being used. OP is looking for a way to override this setting / feature if anyone knows. Personally, I like the option of taking it on the phone for privacy reasons as my BT device is through the car speakers.

ande8150 said:
Mine operates the same way. I don't beleive this is a "flaw", and may vary by type of bluetooth device being used. OP is looking for a way to override this setting / feature if anyone knows. Personally, I like the option of taking it on the phone for privacy reasons as my BT device is through the car speakers.
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I agree, I don't necessarily think it is a flaw. I would prefer to have mine answer with the bluetooth if I hit the green call button. I was just wondering if there is a setting some where that I am overlooking to have it the way I would prefer.
I just tried it again with the DCD 3.2.6 and 3.37.75 radio. As has been mentioned above, it does not appear to be related to a rom or radio, it is a feature of the phone.
A friend of mine has an iphone, and when they get a phone with a bluetooth earpiece enabled, they get options on the screen which say answer, answer on phone, or ignore. Or something along those lines. I like having those options, but understand if it is not available on the 6800.
Thanks for all of the replies.
Jeff

Bluetooth headset / answering calls

Hi,
So when you have a Bluetooth headset connected it's a fair expectation for calls (audio) to be routed through to it, right?
When making a call this happens as per expect.
However if you ANSWER a call via the handset itself (hard button or slider) then the call is kept local to the handset, it's only if you answer the call via your button on your Bluetooth headset that the call is routed to there.
Now you can once in the call select the "Handsfree On" from the menu to transfer it to the headset once you've realised your mistake, but surely this is a bit of a pain.. no?
I for one will most of the time physically pick up the handset and take a look who is calling before answering it (unless driving etc), so would like to just press the answer button and away I do.
Ideas anyone?
(Thanks!)

SimonW500 said:
Hi,
So when you have a Bluetooth headset connected it's a fair expectation for calls (audio) to be routed through to it, right?
When making a call this happens as per expect.
However if you ANSWER a call via the handset itself (hard button or slider) then the call is kept local to the handset, it's only if you answer the call via your button on your Bluetooth headset that the call is routed to there.
Now you can once in the call select the "Handsfree On" from the menu to transfer it to the headset once you've realised your mistake, but surely this is a bit of a pain.. no?
I for one will most of the time physically pick up the handset and take a look who is calling before answering it (unless driving etc), so would like to just press the answer button and away I do.
Ideas anyone?
(Thanks!)
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I have the same on my iPhone using my In-car bluetooth.
If I answer using the bluetooth answer button it goes thru the car speakers. If I use the handset answer button, it uses the iPhone itself, though I can then select to change it to the bluetooth from the iPhone.
I haven't received my Brodit cradle for my HD2 yet, so I've not set it up in the car yet, but I'm expecting the same arrangement I guess.

greatcapp said:
I have the same on my iPhone using my In-car bluetooth.
If I answer using the bluetooth answer button it goes thru the car speakers. If I use the handset answer button, it uses the iPhone itself, though I can then select to change it to the bluetooth from the iPhone.
I haven't received my Brodit cradle for my HD2 yet, so I've not set it up in the car yet, but I'm expecting the same arrangement I guess.
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Hmm, I guess it's a case of personal preference - while you and I seem to agree I guess other may like the way it is. The answer is therefore a way to CONFIGURE this behaviour - anyone know if this is possible?

Same thing happens on my Topaz... didn't happen in my Omnia though.
I would like to know a way to alter it as well.

Has anyone tried the Car Kit Mode bluetooth option on the HD2 in the Sense UI 'Settings' tab then 'Other' at the bottom of the list, where you can tick or untick the box for autoconnect? I haven't but would like to know if it works for you.

SimonW500 said:
So when you have a Bluetooth headset connected it's a fair expectation for calls (audio) to be routed through to it, right?
(...)
However if you ANSWER a call via the handset itself (hard button or slider) then the call is kept local to the handset, it's only if you answer the call via your button on your Bluetooth headset that the call is routed to there.
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this is a bit of a pain.. no?
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Not really. A carkit is also a bluetooth headset. When I'm in the car and not driving, I can always choose to answer with the carkit - then everyone in the car can join in the conversation - or answer it on the device, which I prefer when my wife is driving and the kids are in the back. Even though I've made the mistake of using the slider when I really wanted the call on the carkit, I find having the choice a pretty good deal actually.
And besides, when using a headset, who's gonna take the phone out of their pocket to answer the call when all you need do is touch your headset - or better still set it to auto answer on headset calls. And if you really *need* to know who is calling first, why not install MSVC to have the phone tell you who is calling? Seriously, what's the point in using a headset if you're gonna take the phone out of your pocket anyway?

[Q] Audio doesn't go to bluetooth when answer

With my G1, when I'd answer a call using the phone itself (either the hardware button or the on-screen button), the audio would be routed to the bluetooth headset automatically (when it was connected).
With the Aria, when I answer a call using the on-screen buttons on the phone, it routes the audio to the phone. Then I have to hit menu and select bluetooth quickly, or the caller hangs up because they don't hear me. This is very inconvenient when I'm driving, and negates the purpose of having the bluetooth headset in the first place.
Yes, the obvious solution is to answer calls using the button on the headset, but I can't train myself to do that. And like I said, when it's connected to bluetooth, it should route audio to the headset by default anyway.
Anyone know a solution to this?

Nobody sees this as an issue?
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This was happening too me... It was because I was answering the call on the phone and not the bluetooth... Answering with the bluetooth solved the problem.
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Seems pretty straightforward. Answer with phone, audio is on phone. Answer with BT, audio is on BT. Exactly what I want when I answer in my car since BT goes over car speakers.

Ok, I'm glad YOU like it, but I don't. If my headset is connected, I want audio to go to the headset. Else, I wouldn't bother putting it on my ear and connecting it to my phone.
So, does anyone know if there is a way to change it?

aaron8301 said:
Ok, I'm glad YOU like it, but I don't. If my headset is connected, I want audio to go to the headset. Else, I wouldn't bother putting it on my ear and connecting it to my phone.
So, does anyone know if there is a way to change it?
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I don't think there is a way to change it...
You don't have a button on your headset to answer the call? I would think touching a button near you eary would be just as easy or easier than sliding your finger across your phone in the appropriate spot.
In California it is illegal to have the phone in your hand at all while driving. Even to answer the phone. Perhaps that is why Android does this.

I DO have a button on my headset. My phone sits in a holder in my van, pointing at me. When it rings, I look to see who's calling and instictively push the answer button on the phone, as that's what I'm used to doing when I'm NOT driving. THEN, I have to open the menu, and and find the bluetooth option while driving. Bluetooth is supposed to make driving safer, not more cumbersome.
As I said, if I have the bluetooth connected, why wouldn't I want audio routed to it? I don't put the thing on my ear just to look good! LOL

I agree with OP. I thought this was a bug in the ROM. Every other phone I have used has this convention - when bluetooth is connected, audio gets routed through the headset - in and out. At least, there should be an option to change the default behaviour in Android/Aria. If I am holding the phone in my hands, I intuitively answer the call on the phone and annoyingly the calls doesn't get routed to headset Or, I am driving and before I start a conversation I want to see if it's worth risking a conversation while driving (even with headset). Again, phone is in my hand and I answer the call - bluetooth doesn't get audio.